Ronald Voelker Arrest Investigation
Ronald Voelker Arrest Investigation
Case Status
Case Status: Case Status Date: Disposition Code: Disposition Date: Dissemination: CLOSED 07/05/2013 SUBJECT(S) ARRESTED 07/05/2013 Closed Case
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Reporting LEO Padgett, Charles Inv. (Investigative Region 1 / Office of Agricultural Law Enforcement)
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Supervisor Williamson, Daniel Lt. (Investigative Region 2 / Office of Agricultural Law Enforcement)
Date 7/8/2013
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Inv. Padgett, Office of Agricultural Law Enforcement, BIS, Region 1 ACISS#12-3217 On 11/20/2012, I received a complaint of a possible Timber Theft at 1651 Magnolia Rd. Walton County, Florida. (See attached) I contacted the property manager Mr. Joe Morgan and we set a meeting on 11/29/2012. On 11/29/2012 Florida Forest Service (FFS) Supervisor Bruce Smith, FFS Forester Rick Bray, and I met Mr. Morgan at the suspected location the theft occurred. We entered the property and found a large portion (approximately 14-15 acres) of the property had been clear cut. We found the remains of trees which based on our experience leads us to believe a timber crew removed the trees. We also saw the property just to the south which is occupied by Mr. Ronald J Voelker Jr. had erected a fence around a large portion of the cleared property. (See photos 1-3) FFS Forester Rick Bray agreed to conduct a survey of the timber on an adjoining acre so an estimate of the amount of timber removed could be determined. On 12/17/2012, I inquired with the Florida Forest Service to see if they had a survey crew and I was informed they do not have any licensed surveyors on staff. On 12/18/2012, I contacted Mr. Morgan and asked him to speak with the property owner about having a survey done to determine the precise acreage which was cleared. End of Report Investigation continues
Related Addresses Address 6095 Old Bagdad Hwy., Milton, FLORIDA 32583 , United States of America Relationship Business Address
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Reporting LEO Padgett, Charles Inv. (Investigative Region 1 / Office of Agricultural Law Enforcement)
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Supervisor Williamson, Daniel Lt. (Investigative Region 2 / Office of Agricultural Law Enforcement)
Date 7/8/2013
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Inv. Padgett, Office of Agricultural Law Enforcement, BIS, Region 1 ACISS#12-3217/1 On 01/08/2013, I attempted to make contact with Mr. Voelker at his residence to conduct an interview. I was unable to make contact with him at this time. On 01/10/2013, FFS Forester Daniel Wesley and I used aerial photos and ARC Map software to estimate 10 acres of timber had been cleared from Ms. Millers property without her permission. On 02/05/2013, I contacted FFS Forester Rick Bray to see when he was going to be able to conduct the timber cruise as requested to estimate the value of timber per acre. He told me he would be able to conduct the timber cruise on 02/13/2013. End of Report Investigation continues
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Reporting LEO Padgett, Charles Inv. (Investigative Region 1 / Office of Agricultural Law Enforcement)
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Supervisor Williamson, Daniel Lt. (Investigative Region 2 / Office of Agricultural Law Enforcement)
Date 7/8/2013
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Inv. Padgett, Office of Agricultural Law Enforcement, BIS, Region 1 ACISS#12-3217/2 On 02/13/2013, FFS Forester Bray contacted me to cancel conducting the requested timber cruise due to a family matter. On 03/05/2013, FFS Forester Bray returned to district and made contact with me in regards to conducting the requested timber cruise. The timber cruise is scheduled for 03/14/2013 at 9:30am. End of Report Investigation continues.
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Reporting LEO Padgett, Charles Inv. (Investigative Region 1 / Office of Agricultural Law Enforcement)
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Supervisor Williamson, Daniel Lt. (Investigative Region 2 / Office of Agricultural Law Enforcement)
Date 7/8/2013
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Inv. Padgett, Office of Agricultural Law Enforcement, BIS, Region 1 ACISS#12-3217/3 On 03/14/2013, FFS Forester Rick Bray assisted by two FFS employees conducted a post-harvest timber valuation at Ms. Millers property. The purpose of this evaluation is to estimate the volume of timber destroyed and to estimate the monetary loss to Ms. Miller. I attempted to make contact with Mr. Voelker when I arrived on scene, but met with negative results. I took multiple photographs of the property which is owned by Ms. Miller. The photographs clearly show approximately 10 acres of her property has been clear cut and has been fenced in. The only access point is a gate located on Mr. Voelkers adjoining property and the land is being used as pasture for horses which belong to Mr. Voelker. (Photo#1-9). I was approached later in the day by Mr. Voelker once he had arrived home. He agreed to be interviewed and to have the interview recorded. Mr. Voelker stated during the interview that he had cleared the property. He stated he believed he had clear cut approximately 9 acres of Ms. Millers property. He stated he had only been able to purchase the house and 5 acres and the remaining 30 acres still belonged to Ms. Miller. He stated they had issues going on within the house which he did not believe they were told about when he purchased it, so he is getting an attorney to sue her for ownership of the remaining 30 acres. He stated he had done most of the work himself, but did not sell her timber or use a timber company. (Attached recording and transcription) Mr. Voelker sent me a copy of a contract for the purchase of the remaining 30 acres for 100,300 dollars. The contract is from May 21, 2009 and shows the contract expired 10 days after if financing or a cash payment was not received. (See attached) On 04/05/2013, I received the post-harvest valuation results from FFS Forester Bray. His valuation estimates a monetary loss of 8,599.80 in timber cleared from Ms. Millers property by Mr. Voelker. (See attached) On 04/16/2013, I met with Mr. Adam Siler and he provided me a sworn written statement as to the events he has witnessed. Mr. Siler states in November of 2010 he entered Ms. Millers property with her permission to hunt the land and found it was actively being cleared. He states approximately 2/3 of the property appeared to be cleared and the trees had been pushed up along the outer edge of the clearing. He states the activity had been recent because the trees still had green leaves on them. He states he could hear a tractor further in the back of the property still clearing the land as well. (See attached) Investigation continues.
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Reporting LEO Padgett, Charles Inv. (Investigative Region 1 / Office of Agricultural Law Enforcement)
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Supervisor Williamson, Daniel Lt. (Investigative Region 2 / Office of Agricultural Law Enforcement)
Date 7/8/2013
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Inv. Padgett, Office of Agricultural Law Enforcement, CIS, Region 1 ACISS#12-3217/4 On 04/21/2013, Ms. Tracy Masuga gave a sworn written statement, Masuga states in April of 2011 she and multiple family members went to the aforementioned property and found it had been cleared. Masuga states she saw downed trees and turned ground. Masuga states from the location of the house it was clear this was Ms. Millers property which was being cleared. (See attached statement) On 04/24/2013, I obtained a sworn recorded statement from Ms. Zelda Miller-Hurd. Miller-Hurd states in April of 2011she and multiple family members visited the aforementioned property and found it had been cleared. Miller-Hurd states she had been contacted first by Mr. Siler about the property being clear, but she was not sure of the date. Miller-Hurd states in May 2009 she sold Mr. Voelker the house and five acres, because he could not get financed at the time for all of the property. Miller-Hurd states Voelker later in 2009 attempted to purchase the remaining land, but that the contract fell through again. Miller-Hurd stated she had been contacted by numerous timber companies over the years about selling the timber on the property. Miller-Hurd stated she decided not to sell the timber because she believed the property would be more valuable with the timber still on it. (See attached statement) Miller Hurd- provided me copies of the contracts for the attempted sale of the aforementioned property. The documents she provided also include a release of the funds being held in escrow and a cancellation of the contract signed by her with her realtor. (See attached documents) On 05/06/2013, Ms. Kelly Lambert gave a sworn written statement, Lambert states she was contacted by her mother in April of 2011 about the aforementioned land being cleared. Lambert states she contacted Voelker by phone and Voelker made complaints about issues within the home not being disclosed during the purchase and then he told her he would not sue Miller-Hurd if they would meet his terms for the purchase of the land. (See attached statement) End of report / Investigation continues
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I have probable cause to believe and do believe that Ronald Voelker did knowingly obtain or use, or endeavors to obtain or to use, the property of another with intent to, either temporarily or permanently: (a) Deprive the other person of a right to the property or a benefit from the property. (b) Appropriate the property to his or her own use or to the use of any person not entitled to the use of the property, a violation of Florida State Statute 812.0145 (2)(b) If the funds, assets, or property involved in the theft from a person 65 years of age or older is valued at $10,000 or more, but less than $50,000, the offender commits a felony of the second degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082, s. 775.083, or s. 775.084.?
Reporting LEO Padgett, Charles Inv. (Investigative Region 1 / Office of Agricultural Law Enforcement)
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Supervisor Williamson, Daniel Lt. (Investigative Region 2 / Office of Agricultural Law Enforcement)
Date 7/8/2013
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Inv. Padgett, Office of Agricultural Law Enforcement, CIS, Region 1 ACISS#12-3217/5 On 06/14/2013, I submitted a probable cause affidavit to obtain an arrest warrant for Ronald Voelker through my chain of command. On 06/17/2013, the aforementioned probable cause affidavit was approved by my chain of command. I submitted the arrest warrant and affidavit for review by the State Attorneys Office 1st Judicial Circuit and they recommended an arrest warrant. I submitted the affidavit and arrest warrant to a circuit court judge in and for Walton County. He signed the arrest warrant and set no bond pending 1st appearance. On 06/26/2013, Voelker surrendered himself to the Walton County Sheriffs and the aforementioned warrant was served. End of Report / Recommend case closure
Mr Padgett Just in case your GPS or what ever does not show everything.
Dir:From Hwy 20, east of Freeport, turn north on Hwy 81. Proceed approximately 9 miles to Red Bay, at community center, turn left on Rock Hill Rd. Follow to Magnolia Rd. Less than 1 mile, you will see a driveway to your right with address sign for 1651 Magnolia. - That is the old Homestead for this property, direct property access from Magnolia Delineated with markers and sign. From the Ponce De Leon exit off of I-10, take Hwy 81 south to Red Bay and then follow above directions.
All Thank-you so much for your quick follow-up on this matter! Just to review some of the basics and to extract some possibly unreadable info from initiating email at bottom of this message. Subject Property Walton Co Property ID 05-2N-17-05000-012-0020 30 acres 1/3+ cleared /harvested without permission Owner Complainant
MILLER, ZELDA C REVOCABLE TRST 315 EVERGREEN AVE NICEVILLE, FL 32578 Tel 850 729-0934 BUT please call daughter Kelly (below) first, she is handling the affairs of this property.
Power of Attorney to: Kelly Lambert (daughter) [email protected] 225 301-0516 I am representing her/ the owner/POA in the sale of the property Joseph L Morgan Carriage Hills Realty, Niceville FL 850 803-3500 [email protected] Of course, as appropriate since I am the one on the ground I would like to be ccd on significant communication.
VOELKER, RONALD J JR & MICHELLE 1651 MAGNOLIA RD PONCE DE LEON, FL 32455 05-2N-17-05000-012-0000
I have spoken to Kelly to let her know that you may be giving her a call/email Again Thank-you!
Joe Morgan Carriage Hills Realty 850 803-3500 [email protected]
Originating email:
From: Joe Morgan [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2012 1:57 PM To: [email protected]; [email protected]; jeffery.floyd@freshfromflori da.com; [email protected] Cc: Goff, John; [email protected] Subject: RE: Walton County -
Jeff/Glenn/Rick I am representing an elderly lady in the sale of her property ~30 acres in Walton County, FL - near Red Bay. I hope I am on the right track in contacting you, I have relatives in the AL forestry commission, and after discussing the case described below, thought it might be something at least be something to pursue, or ask some knowledgeable folks in our area(and was given your contact info) The situation is that the adjoining land owner has clear-cut a good portion of her property. The adjacent landowner bought the adjoining homestead property (only), in 2009. See attached photo: ~ Current
Previous 2008 picture below, 2010 picture same in timber but 2008 picture was better.
Of course, the owners are upset. When I looked at the property, (entering from the Northwest side), I found many trees simply felled, and it was hard to discern what harvesting (if any) took place. On the remainder of the cleared site most of the trees have been removed/ burned?
Equipment tracks all lead to and from the adjacent land owners property. One of the interesting parts of this saga is: When the adjacent land owner was questioned he stated that a portion of the clearing was completed by the FL Forestry for fire lanes. Something which I highly doubt. both by method, size and extent, and the fact that the current owner was not notified. Anyway, The question is there any way you can assist the landowner in evaluating the damage? This is the most important question even if ball-park. And if within your purview seek criminal / civil recourse? And if not maybe point us in the right direction of who to contact? Best Regards Joe Morgan Carriage Hills Realty 850 803-3500 [email protected]
From: Goff, John [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2012 9:52 AM To: [email protected] Subject: FW: FL contacts
John Goff Forest Operations Assistant Division Director Alabama Forestry Commission 513 Madison Ave. Montgomery, Al 36104-3631 Office: 334-240-9354 Cell: 334-850-0101 SL: 1*138*501
Visit GoodFIRES.org to learn more about prescribed burning. Take a forest break . . . VisitMyForest.org
From: Hill, Craig Sent: Friday, November 16, 2012 8:33 AM To: Goff, John Subject: FL contacts John: Jeff Floyd: [email protected] Glenn Kramer: [email protected] Hope these guys can help. Craig
Page |1 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 Case # 12-3217 1651 Magnolia Rd. Primary Subject: Ronald Voelker Audio Statement 03/14/2013 This interview is being conducted with Mr. Voelker uh Magnolia Road, Walton County Florida. Alright Mr. Voelker you understand at this time youre not under arrest. This is just a preliminary investigation. Youre not under arrest, youre free to leave at any time. You have the right to have an attorney present, all that stuff, alright? Voelker - Alright. Padgett You understand? Voelker - Yes. Padgett Okay and at this time are you invoking any of those rights that you have the right to have? Voelker Not yet. Padgett Okay. Alright if you would, just tell me whats going on out here? Uh with these, this land thats been cleared. Voelker Uh were in, were having this uh an issue with the uh property owner whom we bought the property from. Padgett Okay, okay the five acres that you bought or the thirty acres that they still own? Voelker Both. Padgett Okay whats the issue? Voelker Well the property that, the five acres that we have uh, that we currently own is were having an issue with the house that they first of all sold us and that they ended up building and did not inform us of problems with the house which obviously you know is, is uh is, is a legal issue at this point. And we actually, we do have the rest of the property technically is still under contract with us. In fact, there is still money being held concerning the property. Padgett Okay whose that being held with? Voelker Uh Padgett Just one second. 1
Page |2 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 Voelker Its currently being uh kept by, in escrow by Mitchell Land and Title in DeFuniak Springs. Padgett Mitchell Land and Title? Okay, is the property owner aware of that? Voelker Yes. Padgett Okay. Voelker Absolutely. Padgett Okay. But at this time you do not legally own the property, that thirty acres? Voelker Correct. Padgett Okay. Uh, so did you clear cut that property? Voelker Yes. Padgett Okay, did you do the work yourself or hire a timber company or a clear, land clearing company? Voelker I did most of it myself. Padgett Okay. Most of it.who did the rest of it? Voelker I had uh a couple of different individuals come in and help me with root raking and some other uh.. Padgett Any timber companies? Voelker No, no timber companies. Padgett No sale of timber? Voelker No sale of timber. Padgett Okay, alright. Not a problem. Uh, how much of that property that you cleared do you believe is your property? Not their property. Voelker Um Padgett Because right now were estimating ten acres of their property cleared and about one of yours. Voelker I would say that is probably closer to two acres of mine and I, I could probably figure it out. Padgett So about nine of theirs? Voelker About nine of theirs. 2
Page |3 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 Padgett Okay, alright. Voelker And keep in mind this was done while the property, while we were still uh what happened was is that we originally had the entire property under contract. Padgett Okay. Voelker And because of financing and stuff like that, we had to take five acres out to appease the bank and so forth and so on and the rest of the property was under contract uh pending financing and stuff like that. And during that time is when all this happened. Padgett Okay. Uh what months did you clear that property? Voelker I started June, June it took me, obviously it took me a while. Padgett June of 2012 or 2011? Voelker No, try 2008. Padgett 08? Cause our ariels from google are showing. Voelker Nine, nine I think we bought the property in nine. Padgett Okay so you bought that property in nine, when did you Voelker Start clearing it in Padgett Started clearing it? Voelker I started clearing in June. Padgett June of 09. Voelker Yes. Padgett Okay and when did you finish? Voelker Uh 2010, I couldnt tell you exactly when. I want to say it was Padgett Cause I have google arial photos that show a big change in the property 011 to 012. Voelker uh huh, that was before that. Padgett So, well.. Voelker The grass is older than that. Padgett The google maps are time stamped and dated, so uh, uh so Voelker What is the issue..I mean what, let me ask you a question. What is the complaint? 3
Page |4 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 Padgett The complaint is that you cleared their timber, which to them holds monetary value. Uh which it does. Uh timber, even though its not row pines, all this hardwood does hold monetary value. Voelker And keep in mind, at this point uh after talking to my attorney we are pursuing adverse possession. Padgett Okay, thats fine. Alright, thats basically all the questions I got. Voelker Okay. Padgett Alright, that concludes the interview. END OF STATEMENT Transcribed by Susie Mathis
Page |1 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 Case # 12-3217 315 Evergreen Ave. Niceville, FL. Primary Subject: Zelda Miller-Hurd Audio Statement 04/24/2013 This interview is being conducted at 315 Evergreen Avenue, Niceville, Florida with Ms. Zelda Miller Hurd. This is in reference to ACISS Case Number 12-3217; Destruction of Timber, Exploitation of the Elderly involving suspect Ronald Voelker. Padgett Ms. Miller Hurd will you please state your name for the record? Z. Hurd My name is Zelda Miller Hurd. Padgett Okay. Do you swear and affirm the statement you are about to give me is true and correct? Z. Hurd I do. Padgett Okay. If you would just start uh if you could, at the beginning of when all this occurred with Mr. Voelker. Z. Hurd Um he purchased uh the house and five acres because at the last minute uh his bank would not loan him the full amount. Padgett Okay do you recall what year that was? Z. Hurd That was uh four years ago which is what, uh? Padgett May of 2009, sound right? Z. Hurd Yes, uh huh. Padgett Okay. Z. Hurd Cause our closing was like May 21st. Padgett Okay. Z. Hurd Of Mayum uh, I settled into my new home and Im not sure at what point uh Mr. Voelker left calling card for me to call him. And at that time um he um said I didnt declare something about the dryer vent and that in order to correct that he was going to have to spend thirty thousand dollars on a room for his washer and dryer. And that if I did accept his proposal of thirty thousand dollars he was going to sue me by the first of the month. Padgett Okay. Uh now your land, lets get to the land. 1
Page |2 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 Z. Hurd Okay. Padgett Uh when were you contacted and told that the land was being cleared by Mr. Voelker that does not belong to Mr. Voelker, that belongs to you. Z. Hurd I wasnt contacted um mytwo years ago about this time of the uh of April my family was visiting and my younger son who was living with me at the time, we all went up to the remaining Z. Hurd, cont - property just to walk the land and uh see what it looked like. So we were walking along the land parallel to which Mr. Voelker had, had bought and my son who really grew up walking the land with his dad and knows the property well, he could see that Mr. Voelker had or someone had cleared land, cleared trees on my remaining property. Uh Padgett You said that was about April or May of 2011? Z. Hurd Yes. Padgett Okay. Z. Hurd And ityes, that would have.either been the very last part of April or the very first part of May. Padgett Okay. Z. Hurd Two years ago. Padgett Okay. Z. Hurd Yeah. Padgett Uh were you ever contacted by Mr. Siler, a gentleman who hunts your land? Z. Hurd Yes I was, I was and, and uh this is an old friend of mine that did a lot of handy man jobs for me after my late husband passed away and he was concerned. I had given him permission to hunt every year on my remaining property and he actually drew up diagrams and sent them to me and, but I felt like this was information I already knew. Padgett Uh huh Z. Hurd Um Padgett Did he let you know the property was being cleared? Because he has given me a statement saying he did. Z. Hurd He did, he did. Padgett Do you recall when that was? Z. Hurd Um 2
Page |3 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 Padgett Cause I think he Z. Hurd Probably two years ago but.. Padgett Yeah that would be ______________ Z. Hurd Uh I cant tell you the exact time. Padgett Okay. Z. Hurd Okay? Padgett Thats fine. But he contacted you first, is that correct? Z. Hurd Yes. Padgett Okay. Z. Hurd Yes. Padgett To let you know the property had been cleared and he, did he tell you if it looked like it just happened or anything like that? If it was new clearing? Z. Hurd Now that I dont remember. Padgett Okay, thats fine. Uh, lets see....and when yall went for closing on the, when he originally tried to purchase this property uh hes claiming that theres still a thousand dollars being held in trust. And he claims that you never signed the paperwork to allow that thousand dollars to be returned to him. Is that correct or not/ Z. Hurd My understanding was that he never signed a release.. Padgett Okay. Z. Hurd - .for me to get my money back. Cause my understanding was if the deal fell through, which as far as Im concerned it fell through. He was only able to buy five acres with the house. Padgett But we, was there a separate contract after that for him to purchase the thirty or thirty-five, I guess its thirty acres? Because I, hes provided me and Mitchell Title, I guess has provided me a contract that shows him attempting to purchase I guess like a week after the closing on the house and the five acres. Z. Hurd I have paperwork from that title company. Padgett Okay. Z. Hurd - .myself, and if you wish to look at it Padgett Yeah if I could, yeah. Uh well finish the interview before I look at the paperwork. 3
Page |4 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 Z. Hurd Okay. Padgett Uh Z. Hurd I was confused at that time because I thought, Oh hes not getting uh all of the property, I guess I should get that money back, that earnest money. Padgett Okay, how much earnest money did you have to put up? Z. Hurd I dont think I had to put any. Padgett Yeah. Z. Hurd I mean hes the one that Padgett He puts up a thousand. Z. Hurd He puts up a thousand. I put up two thousand for his house. Padgett But the conthe contract states, and thats why Im wondering, it says if the deal falls through that both of you have to sign a release and then hell be refunded his thousand dollars because hes the one that put the money up. Z. Hurd Okay well maybe I misunderstood how that works. Padgett Okay, thats fine. Not a problem. Yeah. Z. Hurd I truly dont understand all that ___ okay? Padgett Thats fine, okay. And do you know roughly how many acres hes cleared? Z. Hurd Um no but I would guess about half of the remaining property which is I think .. Padgett So somewhere Z. Hurd - .twenty-nine acres so I would say fourteen and a half acres. Padgett I think its a little over twenty uh its almost thirty acres. Z. Hurd Uh huh Padgett I guess from the property appraiser. Z. Hurd Uh huh. Padgett Uh do you know how much each acre is worth individually? Z. Hurd No I wish I did as far as for selling purposes, you mean?
Page |5 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 Padgett Yes maam. Yeah as far as what, what the market value is. Do you have any estimates or have you been provided an estimate or anything? Z. Hurd I dont and Ive been tempted to call another realtor to see what the going price is. Padgett Okay, not a problem. And it, have you ever considered, were you ever going to sell that timber or at any point did you think about selling that timber for monetary? Z. Hurd Years ago before I put the place up for sale, a neighbor David Morris who at that time lived across the way from me or he had a big land, um he was in the business of clear cutting and he walked my property with me and he advised me at that time if you were going to be selling at any time in the next five years, I would not clear cut. Padgett Uh huh Z. Hurd And so I chose not to think about selling it. If I could have selectively had trees removed so that the place didnt look like a graveyard of trees um I might have done that. But I really dismissed that because I felt like the land was more valuable. Padgett With the timber still on it. Z. Hurd - .with the timber still on it, uh huh Padgett But you had contemplated selling that timber? Z. Hurd I had, yes. Padgett Yeah. Z. Hurd In fact, I got an offer yesterday from, thats um. G. Hurd - ______ timber, it wasnt an offer it was, it was just wanted to know if you wanted to sell.. Z. Hurd Right. G. Hurd - the timber on it. Z. Hurd Uh huh Padgett Okay. And if you would state your name for the record, sir? G. Hurd Gordon Herd. Padgett Gordon Herd, okay. And, but a timber company showed interest in Z. Hurd Yes they did. Padgett - ..purchasing your timber? 5
Page |6 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 Z. Hurd Uh huh Padgett Okay. Z. Hurd And I had actually gotten letters previously. Padgett Yeah. Z. Hurd Asking me if I was interested. Padgett Okay. Thats all the questions I have. Is there anything else that you feel that should be placed on record? Z. Hurd Gordon, what do you think? Padgett Ah I do have one additional question. Uh, since Mr. Voelkers made the accusation that your realtor has contacted him since I spoke with him, have you directed your realtor to make any contact with him? Z. Hurd No. Padgett Okay. Thats what I need to know. Thank you. That concludes this interview.