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ORANGE COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE SUPPLEMENTAL REPORT
CASE NUMBER 08-074777

EID 002684

Detective Yuri Melich EID#: 002684 Homicide

Orange County Sheriff's Office 2500 W Colonial Drive Orlando, Florida 32804

(407) 254-7000

Original Offense:

Offense changed to:

Death Investigation

First Degree Murder

Aggravated Child Abuse

Aggravated Manslaughter of a Child Providing False Information to LEO (x4) June 16th, 2008 to June 27th, 2008 Unknown

4937 Hopespring Drive Orlando, Florida 32829 20

Date of occurrence:

Time of occurrence:

Address of occurrence:

Zone:

Orange County Sheriff's Office Professional Standards Section 2500 West Colonial Drive Orlando, Florida 32804

Sergeant Duane "Mike" Mason - Sergeant Mason assisted me with witness interviews.

Orange County Corrections Department Internal Affairs Unit

P.O. Box 4970

Orlando, Florida 32802-4970

Corporal Juan Santiago - Corporal Santiago showed me the layout of Lima dorm at the female detention center. He also confirmed that inmates do often communicate through the ventilation system.

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Maya Derkovic Race: White

11120 NW Gainesville Road

Ocala, Florida 34482

(352) 401-5301

Date of birth: January 24, 1989

In 2008 and early 2009, Maya Derkovic was imprisoned at the Orange County Jail in the same area as Casey Anthony. Maya Derkovic had several conversations with Casey Anthony during this time frame and she had insight on Casey's demeanor while in jail. Casey Anthony told her how she used to "knock" Caylee Anthony out so she could go out. Casey Anthony also gave two previously unheard of versions on how Caylee Anthony went missing.

Robyn Adams

501 Capitol Circle NE Tallahassee, Florida 32301 (850) 878-2173

Date of birth: June 8t\ 1976

Race: White

In 2008 and early 2009, Robyn Adams was imprisoned at the Orange County Jail in the same area as Casey Anthony. Robyn Adams had several conversations with Casey Anthony during this timeframe and she had insight on Casey's demeanor while in jail. Robyn Adams frequently wrote and received handwritten letters from Casey Anthony, most of which she kept. The letters were in possession of Robyn Adams' father Thomas McDonnell.

Thomas McDonnell

Date of birth: December 26t\ 1946

Race: White

558 North Bridge Drive Altamonte Springs, Florida 32701 (409) 293-8239

Thomas McDonnell is the father of Robyn Adams. He was in possession of several handwritten letters from Casey Anthony. He voluntarily turned these letters and copies of these letters to me upon my request. He obtained these letters and the copies from Attorney Andrea Armas.

Tracy Nealley Race: Female

626 Renaissance Pointe #210

Altamonte Springs, Florida 32714

(407) 398-2059

Date of birth: July 18th, 1978

From mid 2008 through early 2009, Tracy Nealley received several handwritten letters from Casey Anthony through letters from Robyn Adams. Tracy Nealley was instructed by Robyn Adams to keep the letters safe. She was later instructed by Robyn Adams to provide

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Attorney Andrea Armas copies and then the original letters in an effort to assist Robyn Adams with her criminal case.

Krystal Holloway 3468 Brookwater Circle Orlando, Florida 32822 (407) 579-3247

Race: Female

Date of birth: November 2nd, 1971

Krystal Holloway established a relationship with George Anthony in late 2008 and early 2009. During this time, George Anthony discussed several aspects of the case with her to include that the death of Caylee Anthony was an accident that "snowballed out if control." Krystal Holloway's sister is Cecelia Benhaida.

Cecelia Benhaida 3468 Brookwater Circle Orlando, Florida 32822 (407) 579-3247

Race: Female

Date of birth: November 2nd, 1971

Cecelia Benhaida was incarcerated at the Orange County Jail from August 215\ 2008 through December 5th, 2008. During this time, she helped pass notes to and from Casey Anthony. She has had conversations with Krystal Holloway, her sister, regarding things George Anthony said concerning this case.

Jody Lee

15340 Galbi Drive Orlando, Florida 32828 (407) 380-5672

Race: Female

Date of birth: February 5t\ 1988

J ody Lee is a gate guard for the Grand Ventura Country Club, which is where Krystal Holloway and Cecelia Benhaida live. She can testify to the fact that George Anthony was a frequent guest of Krystal Holloway in 2009.

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On December 'l O", 2009 I received a voicemail from Maya Derkovic, an inmate at the Lowell Correctional Institute in Ocala, Florida. Maya Derkovic claimed to have spent time with Casey Anthony at the Orange County Jail prior to her transfer to the Lowell Correctional Institute. Maya Derkovic said she had spoken with Casey Anthony and had information on this case.

On December 11th, 2009 Sergeant Mike Mason and I responded to the Lowell Correctional Institute to interview Maya Derkovic. With the assistance of prison officials, we were able to conduct a sworn and recorded interview with Maya Derkovic. The following is a synopsis of what she said.

Maya Derkovic was at the Orange County Jail pending trial for her case when Casey Anthony was first arrested and brought into her dorm (L-Dorm). Maya Derkovic recognized Casey Anthony from seeing her on television. Over the course of the next few weeks, Maya Derkovic established a friendship with Casey Anthony and spoke with her several times through the cell's ventilation system. During these conversations, Maya Derkovic asked Casey Anthony about the circumstances of Caylee Anthony's disappearance. Casey Anthony told her three different versions of what happened. One version was the same she told me on July 16th, 2008. Another version claimed the babysitter was asked to come to Casey's house to watch Caylee Anthony while Casey Anthony went out. When Casey Anthony returned, both Caylee and the babysitter were gone. A third version claimed the babysitter was asked to come to the house and was watching Caylee while Casey Anthony went to the store. When Casey Anthony returned, Caylee and the babysitter were gone and there was a note saying Caylee was abducted. Casey Anthony never told Maya Derkovic anything else about this alleged note. Maya Derkovic never confronted Casey Anthony about the different stories stating "'Cause after a while you just let people lie to you and you just okqy yeah, sure. It's ... 4.

you can't convince somebocjy. A lot if times especiallY being locked up with a person lies to you a lot if time thry believe their lies. So, it's like whatever thry tell you, you can't argue with them. ,,1

When Casey Anthony returned from visits with her family, she would make derogatory comments about her mother Cindy Anthony. According to Maya Derkovic, "Her parents would come and that's when she would make comments about her mom. And I asked her, well how was your visit, and how'd it go? And she'll make comment like, well it's alright, at least the bitch knows how I feel now. [emphasis added} I be like, what are _you talking about? She like my mom. I'm like, well what's wrong with your mom? And she'll: she'll tell me like, at first she would brush it riff like, well it's just a mother and daughter thing. Which everybocjy related to, but then she'll talk about well how her mom never reallY cared about her that much. All she cared about was Cqylee and she knows what it feels like to miss somebocjy now and to feel pain and stuff like that. And just sqy that her mom basicallY

1 Refer to transcript of Maya Derkovic page 11 lines 2-5.

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was neoer there for her. ,£ Casey Anthony also told her that she felt her mother loved Caylee Anthony more than she loved her.

When Maya Derkovic tried to convince Casey Anthony to tell the police the truth, Casey Anthony told her she wasn't worried about doing the time but was worried about what people would think of her. Casey Anthony didn't want her brother or her father to hate her.

I asked Maya Derkovic if Casey Anthony had ever shown frustration over her belief that law enforcement was not doing anything to help find Caylee Anthony. Below is the transcript of this particular conversation:

Q Did she ever tell you that she was frustrated because we weren't actuallY looking

for the nant!)l? Did she ever sqy, hry you know this is where she is? This is who she is?

A No.

Q She ever sqy that you know she wanted to help? What she would do to find her?

A No. So, her seeing bersel] on the news, hearing people talk about it; it was all fun

and games to her. It was funf!J to her, it was exciting. When she found out that she was going national like it was national news now. To her it was like, exciting. It was..

Q How ...

A .. funf!J to her.

Q Well what made it exciting, what made it funf!J? How do you ...

A Because it's ... her ... like her knowing that people know about her and know her

name. It's like she flit like, okqy I'm famous in a wqy. i3

A ... So, she asked me before, do .. do I think that mqybe she can write a book about what happened. Mqybe you know she could, (Inaudible) ... be a book written about her or ...

Q And she's sqying this ...

A ... a movze.

Q She's sqying this to you before the bo4J euen found?

A Before .. this was ..

Q About writing a book and making a movie?

A ... zvqy before the bo4J uias found. It was when .. it was when basicallY like the

first, I think it was the first two or three months. That it was real like chaotic about her.

Q Uh-huh. (Affirmativef

Maya Derkovic said Casey Anthony never mentioned Caylee Anthony except when she made comments regretting having had a child. Maya Derkovic said the following:

2 Refer to transcript of Maya Derkovic page 4 line 20 to page 5 line 4. 3 Refer to transcript of Maya Derkovic page 11 lines 8-18.

4 Refer to transcript of Maya Derkovic page 12 lines 1-13.

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"Q 5 he ever talk about Caylee?

A No. I used to try to ask her like well.. I use .. I asked her before, do you have any

picteres if her? And she was like, no. And I used to be lzke make little comments like about seeing her on the TV She was beautiful. I think she looked just like you, like you know just .. talk to her and kind try and console her in a wqy. But she never reallY talked about it: 5 he never said thank you for telling her baby was beautiful. 5 he just. .. never mentioned her. It was to her the onlY time she mentioned her was sqying that mqybe she should've waited to have a baby. Because she was young and she wanted to lil)e life. Mqybe she should've never had a baby before .. a baby was stopping her from living life and parrying. And a lot times it interfered JJ!ith having a bqyfriend, having a child. And that's the onlY time she ever mentioned her baby.

Q 5he never mentioned she was worried about it; hoped she was okqy? Anything

like that?

A No. No. To her ... anytime like an inmate, other inmates is when she comes out to go into the interview room with her lawyer. While thry shackling her up, whzie the officers are putting the handcuffi on her and sttiff. People would yell through door, "Where's Caylee. 'Where's Cqylee?" "Casry where's Cayiee? And she'll laugh and smile lzke it was nothing. 5 he'll just start giggling and laughing. And ah, that right there shows that you reallY don't care. I mean thry were trying to be nasry but her it was funny. ,,,

When asked about if Casey Anthony ever mentioned about how she would take care of Caylee Anthony, Maya Derkovic said Casey Anthony admitted to "knocking [CqyleeJ out" often so she could go out. Maya Derkovic believes Casey did this at her residence but she's not sure. Maya Derkovic stated in part:

A No, well what she said was that sometimes when she wanted to go went out and not let noborfy baby sit her or anything. Not leave her with her parents. That she'll go out after Cqylee went to sleep. That she'll sometimes knock her out and make her go to sleep until she got back. And when she gets back home she was asleep. 'Cause to her I gum it was, it's easier that wqy because her mom was alrearfy sqying that she was an unfit mom. And that she was alrearfy you know talking about taking Coylee from her. 50, to her just doing it that wqy secretivelY nobody reallY enows. 50, she ... that's the onlY time that she ever talked about how she handled her. But she never told me nothing else about it. A lot if time the onlY stuff that I ever asked her was like, _you know well what happened and .. about like what happened that night. I never reallY went into depth with her 'cause a lot if times I didn't want to know. 5 ttiff like that you don't want to know. You don't want to know the truth about people. And a lot stuff like, I ask her like how was her visit. That's when she'll make comments. Most if the time we talked about stupid stuff, we gorifed around. It was just throughout the whole couple if months that I was there with her. That's when she made little comments. When I might ask her about something she'll

5 Refer to transcript of Maya Derkovic page 12 line 22 to page 13 line 17.

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make comments about it. Or laugh about something that is not fum,!). Being on the news and people yelling at her, baby killer, u/here's Caylee? Stuff like that, that's not fum,!), she 'II laugh about it.

Q When she said she would knock her out and then leave and then come home.

Did she ever sqy what home was? Was it where she lived? Was it ..

A No she ...

Q .. friend's house, a1'!Jthing?

A She didn't tell me where she was at she just went home ... she said home. 50, I

figured it was her house or her parents' house. I don't know where she lived. I don't know who she lived with but ..

Q Well, what about what she used to knock Cqylee out. Did she ever mention that

toyou?

A No but I assume it's drugs because when somebocjy sqys knock out, it's drugs. And a lot if times it's riferred to like, a1'!J type if tran.. tranquilizers that will knock a person out make 'em go to sleep. ,,;

Casey Anthony never mentioned what she used to put Caylee Anthony to sleep.

Maya Derkovic mentioned another inmate named Robyn Adams also talked with Casey Anthony in the same fashion Maya did. Maya Derkovic does not know if Robyn Adams ever discussed any of the above issues with Casey Anthony or if she overheard any of the above conversations. Maya Derkovic said she reached out to us with this information because it was the right thing to do and she asked for nothing in return.

Maya Derkovic said she had discussed being in the same dorm with Casey Anthony with Detective Brian Cross, who handled her case.'. He never told her to ask anything of Casey Anthony but said it would be a good thing if Casey Anthony decided to talk to law enforcement. Maya Derkovic never shared any of this information with Detective Cross.

On December 23td, 2009 Sergeant Mike Mason and I met with Corporal Juan Santiago of the Orange County Corrections Division. We were taken to the female dorm where we were able to view a control panel which showed the locations of all cells in LDorm. I also asked if it were possible for inmates to communicate via the vent systems to which Corporal Juan Santiago replied yes. We were taken to the area of K-Dorm, which is almost a mirror image of L-Dorm, to see how the cells were situated. We did not enter the dorm. Corporal Juan Santiago was given the name Robyn Adams and said he would research the name and see if she was incarcerated at the same time as Maya Derkovic and Casey Anthony.

Upon return to my office, I compared the cell assignments for Maya Derkovic and

6 Refer to transcript of Maya Derkovic page 13 line 20 to page 15 line3.

7 According to Detective Brian Cross, this conversation took place on September 3rd, 2008 while he took Maya Derkovic to the Orlando Police Department for a polygraph examination.

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Casey Anthony for the period of their incarceration at the Orange County Jail. The cell assignments corroborate Maya's account of where she was housed in relation to Casey Anthony.

On January 6th, 2010 Corporal Juan Santiago of the Orange County Jail informed me that a Robyn Adams had been incarcerated in the same cell block as Casey Anthony and Maya Derkovic for a period of time. He provided me with her lodging history while at the Orange County Jail.

On January 27t\ 2010 Corporal Edwards and I met with Robyn Adams at the Federal Correctional Institute in Tallahassee, Florida. Robyn Adams is currently incarcerated at this facility for an unrelated crime. Robyn Adams agreed to speak with us at this time, but refused to provide a sworn recorded statement unless she had an attorney present. Robyn Adams was concerned at something that occurred while at the Orange County Jail while incarcerated there and she wanted to ensure she would not be charged with any other crime(s).

Robyn Adams was incarcerated at the Orange County Jail from July 22nd, 2008 to July 7t\ 2009. During this time, she was housed in the same dorm (Lima Dorm) as Casey Anthony. She established a friendship with Casey Anthony and both often communicated verbally and via letters. Although Robyn Adams and Casey Anthony agreed to flush each others letters after reading them, Robyn Adams kept these letters and mailed them to a friend of hers later identified as Tracey N ealley.

Casey Anthony told Robyn Adams she had been sexually abused by both her brother Lee Anthony and her father George Anthony. Casey Anthony said Lee Anthony had sexual intercourse with her until she was fifteen. She claims she was molested by George Anthony when she was younger, but Casey Anthony did not elaborate further. Robyn Adams believes Casey Anthony mentioned this in one of the letters she kept and mailed to Tracey Nealley.

Casey Anthony confided to Robyn Adams that there was no "Zenaida". Robyn Adams believed this may have been written in one of the letters she kept and mailed to Tracey Nealley.

Robyn Adams talked with Casey Anthony on a variety of topics. Casey Anthony told her Caylee Anthony had trouble sleeping and she had to use chloroform to put her to sleep. Casey Anthony implied her mother Cindy Anthony may have brought the chloroform home when she worked at a local clinic.

Robyn Adams spoke with Casey Anthony the day Caylee Anthony's remains were found (December 11 "', 2008). After a chaplain informed Casey Anthony of the recovery, Casey Anthony told Robyn Adams law enforcement had found the body of a small child with a baby blanket inside a black garbage bag. As a note, the information regarding the baby blanket and black garbage bag was not made known to the jail chaplain so Casey Anthony

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had knowledge of items only the suspect, certain law enforcement personnel and the certain medical examiner's personnel knew.

Robyn Adams told us that the letters written by Casey Anthony and mailed to her friend were now in the possession of her father Thomas McDonnell. She provided his name and phone number so we could contact him to obtain these letters.

At approximately 1740 hours, I met with Thomas McDonnell at his residence.

Thomas McDonnell voluntarily provided me with all the original letters and envelopes in his possession regarding Casey Anthony. He also provided me with photocopies of some of these letters. Thomas McDonnell said the letters were originally mailed to Tracey Nealley then turned over to attorney Andrea Armas in an effort to see if they could help Robyn Adams in her criminal case. Originally photocopies of the letters were provided but Andrea Armas said she needed to see the originals in order to do a handwriting comparison and confirm the letters were indeed written by Casey Anthony. Thomas McDonnell received the letters and photocopies once Andrea Armas was done with them and he has retained them since. To his knowledge, these are all the letters written by Casey Anthony that were sent by Robyn Adams. Thomas McDonnell provided me with a sworn recorded statement about the letters.

On January 28t\ 2010 Sergeant John Allen, Federal Bureau of Investigation Intelligence Analyst Karen Cowan and I reviewed the letters received from Thomas McDonnell. The letters written by Casey Anthony cover many topics, including alleged sexual abuse by Lee Anthony and possible abuse by her father George Anthony. One letter mentions Zenaida Gonzalez and how she took Caylee Anthony but under different circumstances. I made copies of all letters and envelopes recovered from Thomas McDonnell.

On January 29th, 2010 I turned over all original letters and envelopes to the Federal Bureau of Investigation Intelligence Analyst Karen Cowan for processing. The photocopies obtained from Thomas McDonnell were compared to the originals and no copies existed to which originals could not be found. These photocopies were submitted into evidence.

On February 15\ 2010 I conducted a sworn recorded interview with Tracey Nealley.

Tracey Nealley confirmed she began receiving Casey Anthony's letters via Robyn Adams in or around October of 2008. Robyn Adams instructed her to keep the letters safe. A few weeks after Robyn Adams' transfer to the Federal Correctional Institute in Tallahassee, Thomas McDonnell requested she made photocopies of the letters and deliver them to attorney Andrea Armas. Several days later, she met with Andrea Armas and turned over all the original letters and envelopes.

On February 12, 2010 Florida Department of Law Enforcement Agent Christopher Woehr, Special Agent Charles Broadway responded to the Federal Correctional Institute in Tallahassee in an effort to speak with Robyn Adams. Upon request from assistant state

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attorney Linda Drane-Burdick Agent Woehr and Agent Broadway would conduct the sworn recorded interview of Robyn Adams.

At approximately 1040 hours, we met with Robyn Adams and I introduced her to Agent Woehr and Agent Broadway. Agent Woehr and Agent Broadway were able to obtain a sworn recorded statement from Robyn Adams regarding her conversations with Casey Anthony. I was not present for this interview but was given a copy of the interview once it was complete. 8

On February 17th, 2010 Sergeant Allen and Corporal Edwards conducted interviews with Linda Tinelli, Krystal Holloway, and Cecelia Benhaida. Refer to their supplemental reports for details of these interviews.

On February is=, 2010 Sergeant Allen told me that Krystal Holloway and her sister Cecelia Benhaida were coming to the Orange County Sheriffs Office Central Operations Center for additional interviews regarding this case.

At approximately 1050 hours, Corporal Eric Edwards conducted a sworn recorded interview with Cecelia Benhaida (aka "Sky"). Sergeant Allen and I were present for this interview. Cecelia Benhaida was questioned about her knowledge of this case and her sister's involvement with the Anthony family. During this interview, we learned that Cecelia Benhaida was incarcerated9 at the Orange County Jail for several months during which she had contact with Casey Anthony. As a jail trustee, Cecelia Benhaida assisted in passing notes to and from Casey Anthony. The notes were to and from three other unidentified inmates. I showed her a photograph of Robyn Adams and Maya Derkovic in an effort to see if they were two of the three other inmates but Cecelia Benhaida could not positively identify them. She never read the notes with the exception of one which was a thank you note addressed to her from Casey Anthony. She did not keep this note. Cecelia Benhaida believed she was incarcerated from August 2008 to January 200910. She stated that the passing of notes was not orchestrated by or requested on behalf of any corrections officers.

After having been released from jail, Cecelia Benhaida learned her sister Krystal Holloway established a friendship with George Anthony. She also learned that her sister had given George Anthony several thousand dollars however her sister was not clear on what the money was to be used for. She met with George and Cindy Anthony on a few occasions but they never spoke about this case with her. Even after learning she had been in jail with Casey Anthony, neither George or Cindy Anthony asked anything about how their daughter was doing in jail.

8 Refer to Florida Department of Law Enforcement case number OR-73-1749 for the report concerning Robyn Adams.

9 Cecelia Benhaida was incarcerated under the name Cecelia Holloway.

10 According to jail records, Cecelia Benhaida was incarcerated from August 21 to December 5, 2008. She was not in jail in January of2009.

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Cecelia Benhaida said her sister recently mentioned several conversations she had with George Anthony regarding this case. Krystal Holloway mentioned how George Anthony told her how the death of Caylee Anthony was an accident and somebody" ... flew off the handle ... ='. Krystal Holloway also told her about an incident in which George Anthony grabbed Casey Anthony or Cindy Anthony by the throat.

At 1212 hours, I conducted a sworn recorded interview of Krystal Holloway.

Sergeant Allen and Corporal Edwards were present for this interview. Krystal Holloway told us she had established a friendship, then a relationship with George Anthony beginning July, 2008 to October of 2009. During this relationship, George Anthony discussed aspects of this case and made certain statements indicating how Caylee Anthony died.

Krystal Holloway began volunteering at the Kid Finders tent for Caylee Anthony search in July of 2008 where she met George Anthony. Krystal Holloway introduced herself as "River", a nickname she has used for approximately twelve (12) years. They exchanged telephone numbers over the next few months, and spent time together both at the Kid Finders tent and at later her residence. There were several occasions where George Anthony would come to her residence when she was alone and they would spend time together. During one of the visits to her house, George Anthony became emotional and talked about how Caylee Anthony'S death was an accident that "snowballed" out of control. Regarding this conversation, Krystal Holloway said:

KH But um, I was sitting on the floor, but I was like, like up against the couch like next to his legs we were just talking and um, and he told me that he respected me for never .. And I said, well I'm not one to judge I mean I've done my stuff. And I said, but you know I just can't imagine you and Cindy raising somebody that would do something like that. And then I kind of like turned away 'cause my eyes were filling up. And I was getting choked up and then when I looked at him he was crying. And he said it was an accident .. that snowballed out of control.

CM What was an accident?

KH (No verbal response.)

CM What was the accident he was talking about?

KH (No verbal response.)

CM I need to hear itfrom your words.

KH The baby's death was an accident got out of control.

CM And what did he tell you the accident was?

KH He didn't specify.

CM And how did it get out of control?

KH t.r did. ' ify 12

lie 1 n t speci .

J 1 Refer to transcript of Cecelia Benhaida page 22 lines 2-3.

12 Refer to transcript of Krystal Holloway page 11 lines 11 through line 25. KH = Krystal Holloway. eM = Corporal Melich.

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She believes that George Anthony was telling her the death was an accident and when Casey Anthony tried to cover it up, (( ... it just realjy got realjy big." Krystal Holloway believes this conversation may have taken place just before her sister was released from the Orange County Jail in December of 2008.

Krystal Holloway believes that on this same day, George Anthony mentioned to her that Juliet Lewis, a person Casey Anthony claimed was the roommate of Zenaida Gonzalez, was made up and not a person Casey Anthony knows. George Anthony allegedly told Krystal Holloway she liked the actress by that name and that is why she chose it.13

Krystal Holloway also described an incident George Anthony told her about having grabbed Casey Anthony by the neck. According to Krystal Holloway, (( [George Anthony] was mad, he was pissed he wanted her ... he wanted to know what she, what she did with the baby ... And she wouldn't talk she would just sit there. And he couldn't take it anymore. And he just snapped, he grabbed her and threw her up against the wall and Cindy had to run and jump and get him off. ,,]4 When asked how he grabbed Casey, Krystal Holloway replied, "Around the throat he grabbed her and choked her like this and threw her up against the wall. And he was like, I want you out of my fuck ... get the, get the fuck out of my house! ,,]5She believes this incident occurred on or about August 29,2008 which isthe night Casey Anthony was arrested at her house for fraudulent check charges.

Over the course of their friendship, Krystal Holloway said she gave George approximately four (4) thousand dollars in cash. She claims she gave him the money because he would tell her he did not know if he was going to lose his house and he had no money to eat. 16 She thought Cindy Anthony knew of the donations until she met with her one day and she asked Krystal Holloway if she had been giving George Anthony money. At one point in or around January of 2009, George Anthony claimed he was going to lose his house and asked Krystal Holloway for twenty (20) thousand dollars. She did not comply with his request.

Krystal Holloway presented us with a letter addressed to her home for "River Rios". The letter was written by George Anthony and postmarked January 3rd, 2009. In this letter, George Anthony said he had left three messages for her and that he and Cindy were concerned about her. I obtained the original letter and envelope and completed a property receipt for the items.

13 Refer to transcript of Krystal Holloway page 30 lines 7 through 21. 14 Refer to transcript of Krystal Holloway page 15 lines 15 through 20. 15 Refer to transcript of Krystal Holloway page 16 lines 9 through 11. IG Refer to transcript of Krystal Holloway page 25 lines 5 and 6.

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Krystal Holloway said a security guard who works the front gate at her subdivision had witnessed George Anthony visit her several times in 2008/2009. This guard, identified as Jody Lee, could also confirm that Krystal Holloway asked that George Anthony no longer be allowed entry to the subdivision to visit her.

During our interview with Krystal Holloway, she mentioned she knew a deputy sheriff employed by our agency. She said she never brought up anything about the Anthony case or her relationship with George Anthony to this deputy. She identified the deputy as Deputy Sheriff Anthony Whitmore.

During our interview, Krystal Holloway allowed us to download her cell phone that contained dated photographs of her and George Anthony. The phone also had several telephone numbers for George Anthony.

At 1534 hours, I conducted a sworn recorded interview of Deputy Whitmore.

Sergeant Allen and Corporal Edwards were present for this interview. Deputy Whitmore has known Krystal Holloway for approximately eight years. In short, she never mentioned this case or her relationship with George Anthony to him. The first time he learned she had something to do with this case was when we told him during this interview. Aside from this interview, Deputy Whitmore has had no personal or professional involvement with this case.

On February 19th, 2010 Sergeant Allen and I conducted a sworn recorded interview with Jody Lee, a Wackenhut employee assigned to the front gate guard shack of the Grand Ventura Country Club. She confirmed that George Anthony had been to the Grand Ventura Country Club as a guest of Krystal Holloway several times in 2009. He was considered a frequent guest of Krystal Holloway. After seeing him visit for about two to three months, Krystal Holloway told the front gate guards she no longer wanted George Anthony to pass the gate to visit her. Jody Lee believes the first two times George Anthony visited she would have noted his name and vehicle information on a visitor's log.

Also on this date, Sergeant Allen and I met with Krystal Holloway at her residence where she turned over two more notes from George Anthony to her and a digital camera which may have more photographs of her with George Anthony. These items were seized and documented on a property form. The camera was later turned over to Computer Forensics Examiner Sandra Cawn to be examined.

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ATTACHMENTS: REPORT PACKAGE.

FURTHER POLICE ACTION REQUIRED: PENDING

REFERRED TO: STATE ATTORNEYS OFFICE

DISPOSITION: ARRESTED

I swear or affirm the above statements are correct and true

tf" ~<'/_Y

Corporal Yuri Melic

Sworn to and subscribed before me, the undersigned Authority, This 12th day of March, 201 .

Serge

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Detective Brian Cross EID: 269

Special Operations and Investigations Division Major Case Section

Homicide Squad

2500 West Colonial Drive Orlando, Florida 32804

407 -254-7000 Extension 70632

, pmU4RY OFF~NIJ, IlNFO;U;M~TION: ~~ ~ ,~' ~,

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Original Offense:

Date of Occurrence:

Location of Occurrence:

First Degree Murder

June 16, 2008 - July 15, 2008 4937 Hopespring Drive Orlando, Florida 32829

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VICTIM INFOHMATION:

Name:

Date of Birth:

Race/Sex:

Address:

Caylee Marie Anthony August 9, 2005 White/Female

4937 Hopespring Drive Orlando, Florida 32829

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SUSPECT INFORMATION:

Name:

Date of Birth:

Address:

Casey Marie Anthony March 19, 1986

4937 Hopespring Drive Orlando, Florida 32829

ORANGE COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE INVESTIGATIVE REPORT


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Name:

Date of Birth:

Race/Sex:

Address:

Maya Derkovic January 24, 1989 White/Female

2951 Waco Drive Deltona, Florida 32738 (407) 851-9426

Phone:

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On January 18, 2007, I conducted a homicide investigation under case number 2007-006265. The victim's body was found at the retention pond located at the east end of Alachua Street in Orange County. The deceased female was identified as Harriet Curtis.

On October 12, 2007, I obtained First Degree Murder warrants for Amiri Lundy, Dominique Tolbert, and Maya Derkovic in connection with Harriet Curtis's death.

On February 26, 2008, Maya Derkovic pled guilty to First Degree Murder, and was sentenced to thirty years with the Department of Corrections. A condition of Maya Derkovic's plea agreement was to testify truthfully against Amiri Lundy, and Dominque Tolbert.

On September 3, 2008, I transported Maya Derkovic from the Orange County Jail to the Orlando Police Department for the purposes of undergoing a polygraph examination. Officer Barbara McClelland conducted the polygraph examination, and at the conclusion informed me Maya Derkovic passed the polygraph exam.

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On September 3, 2008, at approximately 2130 hours, I transported Maya Derkovic back to the Orange County Jail. During the return trip to the jail, I engaged in casual conversation with Maya Derkovic. I asked Maya Derkovic if she saw Casey Anthony in jail. Maya Derkovic replied she had. I said, "I bet you probably could get the truth out of her." Maya Derkovic said, "I probably could." That ended our conversation regarding Casey Anthony. At no time did I ever directly or indirectly instruct Maya Derkovic to seek out Casey Anthony in an effort to gain information for law enforcement.

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From: Bill Todd

RE: Information Taken at Command Center in Orlando, FL

On Saturday afternoon., Nov. 8111, 2008, I was outside under the team briefing white tent I believe it to have been around 1 or 2 o' clock.

J was approached by a man appearing to be late 40's in age, wearing dark dress slacks and a sport coat I believe he thought I was Tim Miller. He told me he was working for the security firm employed by the Anthony family and that he had some information that he had gotten from talking to a young black girl who lived neat the Anthony borne.

I obtained a TES de-briefform and began gathering the information. He stressed that his job may be in jeopardy if it was known that he was providing information because his company was working for the Anthony family. He provided his name and contact number. 1 wrote this information on the form along with his statement about his job being in jeopardy. The following is the information I gathered from this individual:

He said he was approached by a 9 or 10 year old black girl who lived nearby the Anthony home. He stated that he did not know exactly where she resided. He stated he was on the street where the Anthony family lived when the girl approached him. The girl told him that she had seen Casey' s car at the entrance to the trail that led into the wooded area tv the right of the school. He stated the girl told him she saw the car there prior to the time Casey was first arrested He stated he thought we should have this information.

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I completed and signed the de-brief form and took it to Bill Fitzgerald who was in the mini-mobile trailer. I went over the information with him. I left the form with Mr. Fitzgerald.

1 do not remember the name of the man who provided the information but have since been told it was most likely Jim Hoover.

Brett Churchill has stated the person giving the information was Jim Hoover as he bad seen him earlier in the area

At no time did the man suggest that TES needed to go search the specific area described above.

I tried to locate the de-brief form but have not been successful.

If the man provided the date and time he talked to the child, I would have written it on the form but do not remember if he provided the information.

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At shortly after 7PM PST tonight, January 7, 2009, r saw taped footage from a press conference held in Orlando, FL today. I saw numerous shots of Jim Hoover and immediately recognized him as being the one who came to me at the Command Center on Nov. 8th, 2008. He provided information to me that I put on a TES de-brief form. The information provided by Mr. Hoover has been described by me in a previous statement.

The only other time I have viewed a picture of this individual was taped footage which was of poor quality and I was not certain after seeing it that it was definitely the man I spoke to. I viewed that footage over a week ago. Tonight, the taped footage was clear and I was able to identify him within seconds.

I state without reservation that I am certain this is the individual I obtained information from.

Bill Todd

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What's today's date? It's the 1 yth.

And it's ah, 1620.

Twenty-five.

Sixteen twenty-five, approximately. And we are at the address of ... Can you

state your name for me please ma'am?

Linda Tinelli.

Corporal Eric Edwards and Sergeant John Allen. We came here today Linda, to show you a photograph of an individual that we're trying to identify. Ended up not being our person. But during that conversation you brought to our attention that shortly after the interview that we had done. You had visited the Anthony's residence. Can you tell me about that again?

Um, I went down on January iz". I felt bad that I was at the police station and Cindy and George knew nothing about it. And I kind of felt obligated to let them know that I had spoken with you and Sergeant Edwards .. ah, yeah Sergeant Edwards ... Sergeant Allen, I'm sorry. And um, I did and I told them that.

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Ah, they just talked and, and after I told 'em I was down there and I told 'em you showed me a photograph of tape. Um, and a picture of Caylee with tape. And they asked me why and I said I didn't know. And um, I don't know exactly what all I said. I didn't say everything.

Did you go in our direction? Or did you take that upon yourself? That was, that was nothing that law enforcement asked you to do or instructed you to do is my point.

What to go down to the Anthony's? Yes.

No, I went myself.

Okay. What was .. when you mentioned the photograph and the image of the tape. Um, what was Cindy's demeanor about that subject? How did she act? She wasn't upset or really concerned. Um, she I guess wondered why.

You say you ... you described it ...

That you requested".

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Yeah like.,.

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... why would they do that? you know like a huh! Okay, but George didn't have anything to add? No.

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6 L TUm, she asked me were, were you were leading me. Or, or what you, you both

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8 questions. I told them that I had a list. They were asking about the table, Kid

9 Finder's table. Um, and I told 'em I had a list of the people that we went down

10 there and I gave them a list of that. Um, and George had told me that he had the

11 list and he could've gave you that too. Or he could've given them that too.

12 Meaning you guys.

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16 CE Did he make any statements about that?

17 L T No, not a statement about it.

18 CE Okay he just said he would be willing to give us the list of people?

19 L T The list of ..

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21 LT ... people that I had down phone numbers and the names.

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Okay. Um, you asked ... they asked you if we had asked about a particular name and I think it was Joy Wray.

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Um, who asked you about that? Cindy.

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She was curious whether or not we were asking about Joy Wray? Yes. Yes.

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Did ah, you said you'd asked about Roy Kronk.

Yes I asked Cindy if she had ever seen or talked to Roy Kronk. If ... no I asked Cindy 'cause I told her that you guys asked me if Roy Kronk was ever at the ever at the table. If I knew he was at the table. And I said no I never seen him except on TV. And I asked Cindy if she had ever met him or seen him or talked to him? Or if she'd seen him at the table or hanging out at the table. And she told me no

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And what did they say?

I don't know.

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And you, you were nice enough to ... I'm sorry go ahead.

She asked me to either text her or call her. I .. my phone I left my phone in my car that night so I didn't get the message till the next morning.

Can you play that message for me again please? And you're reluctantly doing so, but I appreciate it.

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sure it's okay for me to give you ... give him your phone number. Okay honey um, so Brad you know he's one of the good guys. I just want to make that we don't get blindsided by anything. I mean I don't trust anybody. Um, not.. not talking about you I'm talking about the sheriff's department. So, anyway honey I love you and just either give me a text and let me know you got the message or give me a call back I'd appreciate it. Thanks honey, bye.

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LG Verizon, Cindy Anthony, 407-808-4731,9:32 P.M., on January 13th, 2010.

Big capital letters, MISSED CALL. Thank you. So, she had .. you, you had said that it almost appeared like ah, she felt that Caylee was still around?

Yeah she said, when I said, I don't know how you guys stay here I'm .. I'm surprised that you guys are still here. I said, I don't know what I would do I don't know if I could stay here. 'Cause as you look around there's all Caylee's pictures and there's some of Casey and Lee and the things in the backyard you can see out the window. And um, she said that her Caylee was here and her children

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Okay so, Cindy usually does the talking with you're talking with 'em?

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Cindy said that. Yes.

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16 L T They weren't records um, what you consider records.

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.... all those pieces of papers and all those doc ... where are they now? Oh I threw 'em away.

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There was no sense to keep 'cause I typed on the paper.

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19 L T In fact if people worked at EquuSearch they weren't allowed at the table.

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14 L T That's all I said.

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Um, do you recall during any of this time them ever making any comments about anybody from EquuSearch coming to their house and talking with 'em at their house? Or was there ever any discussion of that, they seem upset about the people of EquuSearch ...

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Tim was here .. Tim Miller and EquuSearch was here at the Anthony's request. Right. And then .. I guess they started looking like in swamps and woods and all that there. But what I understand and that's when I guess the Anthony's got

upset 'cause they felt they were gonna be here looking ... I don't know like at air ports or malls or some place for Caylee. A live Caylee and ...

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And then there was (Inaudible) ... one in California or something I don't know exactly where they all were. But I think they were hopeful that that was Caylee. Right. Um, well lets get. .. But was there any discussion of them being upset about the .. I know about the fact that maybe the EquuSearch wasn't searching the way they wanted 'em to search. Was there .. ever say to you that they were upset about something that happened at their house involving EquuSearch? Ah, no just that Cindy got mad at Tim one day, told Tim to get out or something. Okay. Did, did he .. she ever say why she told him to get out?

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I don't.

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Early on or did they seem pretty happy with the service they were getting from him? Or do you even know the answer to that?

I don't even know the answer to that.

Okay.

There's a cat out there.

That's it I don't have anymore. Okay. I'm good.

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Can you raise your right hand for me Linda? You swear that everything you said today is true?

Yes.

And it's approximately 16 .. I guess 40.

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25 KH TRANSCRIPT OF TAPED INTERVIEW OF KRYSTAL HOLLOWAY OCSO CASE NUMBER 08-74777

CONDUCTED BY CORPORAL ERIC EDWARDS RECORDED FEBRUARY 17,2010

TYPED FEBRUARY 19,2010

SA - SERGEANT JOHN ALLEN

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KH - KRYSTAL HOLLOWAY

What time do you have?

It is 7:03.

And today's date is?

It is the 1 ih (Inaudible) ...

2/17/2010. And your name is ma'am?

Krystal Holloway.

You're gonna have to speak up for that device.

Krystal Holloway.

And Krystal Holloway and your driver's license number is?

H400-500-71-902-0.

I wrote that down from the traffic accident report in your house and the officer

had the wrong one.

The wrong what?

He had A here. It must've been it.

Yep must've been on the report.

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25 Um, can you raise your right hand for me? You swear the information you give

today is going to be true?

Yes.

Okay. Um, we .. this is Sergeant Allen and I've introduced myself. And we've

been working follow-up information on the Anthony Homicide Case.

Right.

Caylee Anthony. And through those conversation your name or a name linked to

you has come to our attention.

Right.

Or came to our attention. And we're just now in the process of following up on

those .. those things. Um, do you mind telling me the name I may be referring

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River Cruz

River Cruz?

Right.

And that's not a true name?

No.

Okay. Krystal, what I'd like to do right at this point in time. Is just ask you what

involvement you had with the Anthony's just from the beginning. And I don't want

to say a word I just want to get it from you spontaneously.

How I met them?

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Well, in the beginning when the child went missing I would watch it on TV and on

Nancy Grace. And um, after a while I started I started feeling bad for the

Anthony's, Cindy and George. Because these people were yelling at them and

cursing and I just felt bad just thought that they had the right to think that their

granddaughter was still alive. And ah, one day I was just driving by and I seen

them at a tent and I stopped by.

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Um, the .. the first one would be on I believe Goldenrod and Curry Ford Road,

next to the fruit stand.

Okay.

They moved three times since ah, yeah. Um, and um, he was very pleasant

when I met him. I didn't meet Cindy she wasn't there. I met her later on maybe a

two months later I think three max. Then I got to know him and I would sit with

him everyday with my dog Ginger. We'd sit over there at the tent everyday and

people would come by and you know talk to him and stuff.

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Um, Kalani Boles did. Um, the gentleman from Kid Finders Network (Inaudible) ...

Remember his name?

I don't recall. His glasses (Inaudible) ... I think he's the founder of Kinder Finders.

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could just donate. You know people would leave checks or cash. And that's how

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Was there leads that he ...

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Just to keep looking. Ah, he never went to look. He never went to look, but he

would just tell thank you for your prayers and um, he .. he was really pleasant you

know. Like very manner-able.

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Okay I think that's probably the hard topic. What.. where did .. where did that. ..

how did that relationship develop or where did it go?

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Well we would sit and talk for hours you know and I would feel bad and he would

tell me about um, the baby. You know and how he would sing and talk you know

and things that he would do. Like if was just normal conversation. And then um,

we would meet up, I would go to his house. But I would go into his house but I

wouldn't talk when I was in his house. Because he felt the house was bugged.

Okay. Wouldn't talk. How long would you be in the house?

Um, I've been in there several times. Ah, maybe an hour at most.

Did he say that the house was bugged? Or why did you think that he believe the

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You say you would talk for hours. Um, just you and him, Right.

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... 1 would have to leave, I would have to call the front office and leave um, a pass

with his name on it. And a lot of people has seen his .. the Cruiser, the PT

Cruiser with the Caylee stuff on there and they would .. One of my friends at the

gate would say, is that... is that .. it that for you? I said yeah that's him, yeah.

Do they keep a register you know?

I believe yeah because you have to write down the dr .. the um, license plate

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And you have to have a pass so if it gets written down and there's cameras.

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To capture the license plate I think.

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So, these hour long or hours of conversation what were they generally about? I

know you said that he would talk about how he sang with the child. But what..

what other content is there that you think we would find interesting?

I know that um, (sigh) I stood in my garage. And um, I know that Zaneida

doesn't exist. Because he would say, that I have perfect teeth. And I .. my hair's

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That I cared for him a great deal. It was too late when I tried ... I seen it on TV

the interview of him saying, Well she has a tattoo and it goes down her arm. She

always wears her hair straight, but sometimes she wears it curly. She's

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want to lie to you. I don't want to say that I did or not.

SA That's fine. That's fine. Did .. ah .. well I mean some of the texts I mean we seen

at least like the last text the one you showed us where ah, he texted you um, I

need you in my life, I want you in my life. Um, do you .. do you remember when

that, you got that text?

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During the summer so it was soon after Caylee became missing?

Yeah. Uh-huh. (Affirmative)

Okay. And when did you start spending a lot of time with him?

I never stopped I always did from the moment, the day that I met him I would be

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I couldn't take it anymore and he hurt me it was, it was bad and ...

How'd he hurt you?

Because ... I was going through so much. And I told ... I remember telling him

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wanted to kill myself. Not because of (Inaudible) ... but because the way he

treated me and just all the stuff that I know. And he told me that as soon as he

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What did she text him?

I can't believe that you treated my sister like this after everything she's done for

you and your family. And she's been nothing but loyal to you and this is how you

treat her? And he never responded.

When, when ah, when your sister talked about loyal, when we were at your

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and have you tell uh what you knew about this. Um, you said some things there

that we need to know about. .. you made ah, you made some comments

everybody hurting you about them taking advantage of you. And money being ..

you'd given money and ...

Yeah.

.Um, how much money do you think you gave him?

About four thousand dollars.

Okay. And was this, this money this four thousand dollars it would've been over

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The whole time.

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Understandably so because he was in the spotlight of the media and nobody

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KH ... we'd talk and then he'd like, well you know um, Cindy thinks I'm this place I'm

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What.. what.. where did he say Cindy thought he was?

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Well Cindy thought he was looking for work and he'd be over with me.

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And she would .. she .. his phone rang and she .. they were arguing. And like I

heard .. a .. people would come up and I would kind of like shun him off to the side

so other people wouldn't hear him yelling at Cindy on the .. or anybody on the

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Ok on the .. or anybody on the phone. Because you know ...

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Did he tell you what that was about?

No. No. I had just you know, this is the first week it had to be that I met him. And

he didn't.. I don't think he trusted me that much then. But ah, you know and I

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we stored food and people would come and bring food and stuff and treats or a

snack, platters and stuff and drinks. You know non-perishable things. And um,

he would go in there and I would know. I would see him, I would hear him call

the guy from I believe Channel 4, news media, and the female. He would call all

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And then I would go and when I'd see the truck pulling in. After a while I seen

George look and he's like, no, no, no, it's okay I called them. And then after a

while I started thinking, wow ch ... this is like you know a, stunt like you know like

for show it's not even ... After a while I just was, I would get so mad because it

was not about the kid it was about the publicity. You know him you know .. you

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He said that it was an accident. That went wrong. And it just snowballed. And

he said you know how you tell a small lie. And he just tried to cover it up. And it

just got really big and was just.. it just went out of control.

Did he explain it to you? Did he give you more then that?

No.

What type of accident?

'Cause he was sitting on the couch in my house.


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so many things in my life but wasn't ashamed of. But I never thought it would

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I don't remember exactly I think it was the last time he was at my house. And

that would be on the gate they would have that information at the gate.

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Did he say to you that Casey had told him this was an accident. Or this was

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He didn't say that, he said, um, like he knew it was a (Inaudible) ... I don't.. I don't

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Did he maybe say why he hasn't approached law enforcement and said that?

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Why?

He doesn't want to have to lose two.

Did he say that to you?

In my garage.

What.. tell us the best you can exactly what he said. During that..

He already lost one girl I don't want to have to lose the other.

So, that being said what extent is he willing to go or what is he doing to make

sure that that doesn't happen?

He didn't say. I didn't ask. But I understood what it's like to make a mistake. That

we think is small and try to fix it. And it just gets out of control. I understood

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I was .. he was sitting on the couch and I was sitting on the floor. And he said,

you know I've always respected you because you've never asked me once ..

whether you thought my daughter did it or not. And I said, well I don't know her.

But I couldn't see that two people like you would raise somebody that would

intentionally do something like that.

And then what did he say?

He said, thank you. And then I started to cry and he said it was an accident.

That went out of control.

Okay. But he didn't say what kind of accident?

No I just, he just said it was an accident. And that it went out of control. And it

just.. it snowballed. And I said I know what it's like because I've been through

that myself. And I was starting to cry and so I just got up and I hugged him I felt

so bad.

How did her name get brought into that conversation? How did Casey's, how did

Casey's name .. did .. did .. did you ask if she did it or did he say that she did it or

how .. how was Casey brought into the conversation?

Um, it.. I remember asking him how he was. And if he seen his daughter and

has he spoken to her. And ah, and he .. he said, no you know because all the

recordings and stuff that were going on. Um, and that's when he said no you

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thank you and that's when he said it was an accident. And that it snowballed and

it got out of control. The lie got out of control and it snowballed and I just, I was

sitting on the floor I'm thinking I been through that so many times. But not in a

death. I mean I've lied. I did my share of things in my life that I'm not proud of.

And that's when I got up and I gave him a hug.

Let me backtrack a little bit. Do .. the times that you were at the Anthony

residence. Was Cindy ever there?

Um, yeah.

She was. Every time or just not every time?

Maybe once or twice she wasn't. I know one of the very ... I think the very ..

couple of .. last times before I just stopped. Um, I think it was um, I believe they

cremated her that Monday. Because she came with George she was crying so

bad. And she confronted me and I was so embarrassed and she just caught me

off guard. I didn't even see it coming.

What happened?

I all., I would go to her every week and I would give her flowers. You know and

um, just 'cause I don't know I don't how I was thinking about her. And then the

Monday that she came to the door, she .. she looked like crap. She was crying ..

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he was in the shower and I said, well okay well it's getting (Inaudible) ... I wanted

to give you these. And I asked her you okay, 'cause she seemed really like out

of it and crying. And she's like no. I said alright weill won't intrude I'll just you

know I'll speak to you guys later. And when I turned around to walk away she

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And she said have you .. have you .. have you ever given George any money? I

was shocked .. and I wanted to lie, but it didn't' even come out. And I don't even

know why I wanted to lie I just.. to cover for him 1 don't. .. You know and I was

like, yeah. And she said, how many times? I said several. And she said, I well

how much? And I said several thousand. And she just looked at me and she was

like I knew it. And I .. didn't understand. I remember eyes filling up I felt so bad

like I did something and I thought I was doing something to help her and them.

So, the money you been giving George, Cindy wasn't aware of? Until ...

Apparently not.

.. asking you that day?

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So, some way she found out about it.

Well, I was giving him money because I always thought you know um, for them

pay the bills and stuff. And I would give her flowers every now and then and um,

I didn't want her to feel offended. I just thought you know here you take it and

you put it and do what you what you see fit with it. Because he made it clear to

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Do you know what the money in the jar the one in went in the foundation? Who,

who controls the foundation?

Kid Finders Network.

Okay. Do you know what was, what was being done with any of that money or ...

No.

How much money would they collect on a typical day?

Maybe .. maybe a hundred bucks.

Okay.

It's .. maybe .. between eighty and a hundred bucks a day.

Okay. What did you think George was doing with the money that you've given

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I thought he was paying bills.

Okay.

Was he?

Apparently not.

That's what Cindy said?

No. He said somebody saw him at a restaurant and drinking a beer.

Who said that?

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Let me ask you, you said you were gonna give her these. What are these?

When you were at the door you were gonna give Cindy something.

Flowers.

Flower.

Uh-huh. (Affirmative) Give her flowers.

Okay you had said something about you gave her a broach or something like

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Okay. Why did you give her that?

The day um, it ha .. I think if I'm not mistaken it had to have been the Monday

before they went to Larry King Live.

The first time.

'Cause that was on Wednesday.

Was that the first time they were on Larry King?

I believe so. I know um, he was wearing the gray off, blue-ish gray shirt. That,

that episode. So, which ever episode that was. But.. well um, my texts I sent to

Cindy to and I asked her if she got it. So, you probably get it.

What we're gonna do in a minute. I'll run and get the ...

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I'll go get the sheets, the downloads and we'll go through 'em and maybe that'll

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Was it after the body recovery or the remains recovery, when's the next time you

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Um, oh God .. you know I don't.. I don't remember exactly right now. When ... I

don't.. I remember um, seeing him on TV coming from the airport. And I don't

remember right.. I don't remember exactly right now.

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I heard George talking about it.

Okay what was, what was he saying?

He was pissed at ah, Cindy didn't get the money first.

Okay.

I mean he was, he was livid he was pissed that she didn't get the money.

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that's when I started seeing things for the way things really were.

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really pissed and he .. he threw her up against the wall and choked her.

Okay do you know why he threw her up against the wall and choked her?

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where, where he threw Casey up against the wall. And confronted her and said

ah, I know you killed her. Was this before or after the time he said to you, this

was a terrible accident? Which of those two things happened first?

That, that had to have been before she was out on bond.

Okay. So, was Casey in jail when ...

He told me it was an accident.

Accident.

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or did he just think it. ..

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No. No, he wasn't thinking. He knew what he was saying. He said it. I caught

him on a bad moment and he was crying. And he said it, look it was an accident.

It just snowballed out of control.

SA Okay. But he never .. but he never said to you how he knew that? How he knew

it was an accident?

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I.. no and I didn't want to ask. Because ...

Okay.

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... I kind of knew what he was saying.

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Okay. Okay. Um, did he .. did he say to you who was at the house other then

Cindy during this incident where he threw Casey up against the wall?

KH

Um, you know honestly I'm not sure.

SA

Okay. Did ...

KH I don't know. I know Cindy was there, she was there, he was there. Um, maybe

the mother I'm not sure.

SA The mother ...

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Not sure. Her .. one the ... one of the grandmothers I'm not sure.

SA

Okay. Did he ever say anything about of ah, he never said anything about

Leonard Padilla or any .. any of his people being there when this occurred? Or

do you remember? If you don't remember that's okay.

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I think he was ... It was opened, everybody .. Come on I mean like I didn't know I

wasn't there. But he told me so and I know it happened.

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Okay. Did he say to you, did he ever tell you why he confronted Casey?

Because there was too many lies. She lies about everything.

Alright. Did he ever explain to you ah, it's two times you had conversations with

him. At least two times you had conversations with him, where he indicated to

you that ah, that um, he believed Casey did this. Did he ever say to you why,

with this knowledge why while knowing that she did this, why he would go out

and try to point the finger at this Zeniada? Or why they would ..

He didn't want to have to lose his other kid.

SA Okay.

KH He lost one that's what his statement was. He said ..

SA He's almost. ..

... exactly that.

Alright. We're talking about ah, the incident at the house.

Thank you.

Remember the incident at the house where um, George threw Casey into the

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