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Stop-motion animator David Allen talks about his
new science ction film and the problems of doing
model animation special effects on a modest budget.
What might seem at rst glance as just another exploitation 7
ripoff of STAR WARS is actually an interesting little science
ction lm produced by the Charles Band company, featuring
superior stop-motion sequences designed and directed by l)av-
id Allen. The project began in eamest during late Spring l977
and was slated for Thanksgiving release, but the producers
were inspired by the eerie effectiveness of the animation and
allocated additional time and money for ne\v special effects
footage. Oddly enough, David Allen's involvement with the
film was a fluke that stemmed from his association with Steve
Neill, who designed the alien makeup appliances and special
effects props, and played an alien in the film's first reel.
Dave Allen had gotten Steve Neill several jobs in fantasy
films, one on KINGDOM OF THE SPlDliRS and another one
buildin the full-size head of THE CRATER LAKE MON-
STER. itleill had previously worked for Charles Band on one of
his productions. While Band was preparing LASER BLAST,
Steve Neill found himself extremely interested in Dave Allen's
PRIMEVALS project. Both Allen and animator Randy Cook
had just finished an early draft of the script, and a note of op-
timism was raised when Neill remarked that he knew someone
who might be interested in the property. A short time later,
Neill mentioned PRIMEVALS to Charles Band and another
producer. l had several copies of the script printed," recalled
Allen, and Charlie was given one. lle read it, but it took him
week: to read itso long, in fact, that l felt he was not that in-
terested in it. However, Steve Neill was very enthusiastic about
PRlMEVAl.S and asked me to send, via him, my sample reel
of animation. Charlie looked at it, and although he thought it
was interesting, he spoke in a somewhat distant way about the
project. He did say, however, that he had a project ol his own
called LASER BLAST, and on the basis of the footage he had
seen, he wanted me to create animated models of the aliens in-
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stead of having actors in makeup as originally planned. Steve
was to do those makeups, so it might sound like he screwed
himself out of a job, but Steve was very enthusiastic about the
potential of animation. And l told Charlie that for the amount
of time and money he was giving to the assignment, there was
no way I could do all of it in stop-motion. l would have to
have at least one of the aliens as an actor in makeup, while the
two animated puppets would be chasing him as outlined in the
story. So Steve wound up playing the part in his own makeup.
l was able to play a lot of the shots to him so that l could cut
away from the animation whenever l needed to."
Dave Allen was given a schedule of about eight weeks in
which to complete all of the animated scenes. Assisted by the
husband-and-wife team of Steve and Ve Neill and camera assis-
tant Pault Gentry, Allen went out to the Mojave Desert and
photographed all of the background plates in one aftemoon.
Back at Allen's Burbank studio, process projection setups were
designed while Jon Berg began sculpting the prototypes for the
lizard men and huilt amtaturcs for them. Randy Cook, who
co-animated Tllll CRATER LAKE MONSTER with Phil Tip-
pett, was hired as the principal animator for LASER BLAST.
Modelmalter Greg _]ein designed and built the spacecraft seen
by Paul Mantlell
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(leorge l.t1r:1s was pretty gnotl in tlte ,1,-[51),,/,,,1,,gr,,/,/iy/
TIY "'1" l"~' 5" 1\b\" ll<'l"K ST-\R w~'\R~ \'es,i11 terms of the pl1oto.!T:1bl1'- trYit1l-Z
He was pretty right mt" with regard lo to limit, lttC1lll$t' it ii-as';i iiioiistmiis pru-
ivhzit l1e\\:1t1tetl. lle was \'eryeot1tise about jf('|_ || 5" 111; ;| |t,| of liptiplg \\~|it|]tI
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Z l1:1\'e l:111t;l1etltlitl lattgli :it the idea of try-
\\'" lllil"l'l4\| *'h1".1\'5 "5 \\"'" 35 -*T"iI Sm? 1965' gcmuli l"s."m "lam as 1' rst ing to do tl1:1t mueh in a Iiiititetl amoimt of
rltnttt<t'- and for the most Part T "\"\'\<l s'5," ".""l, "".""' H ""l"l f" time with less th:111 tlutllblt the amount of
ll""2|' ll Will 1' f4llT1""""l "f 1-15*" JUL. cslllclujcr S "lmml cl-llvus lm.sc rm iiionei tli:1t Kubrick woiild want. So Grant
Since our shooting ratio was about 3:1, Rm" Y}"'5~ ' -'\l ll?! lf"""~ Y5 |'t"\"\<l- and i \.. Try (.|m.t.|y_k|m_ | .0"|i pm-|i.
we it-cre11'1 sliotitiiig dozens of shots from I _k1"l'~ll "'5" I tlld" I '?"" I" <_l_"l' -|4'' ,;gp_,- lmiy in .,.ms (,[ u.cm|s' hm. he U".
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the film business for two ye:1rs:11ttli;ot1i1ui kuurcswouldmam,
gities look, how to |'lI(llll\l the 1ni11>
it as .rsMi|(. n sL.l_"|, us
tlo tn:1ster shots on the speeial effects when ""'5k I ""!| l'l'l"l{"i\l'hY- i'"" :"""5- possible.
may Tn. -;|||.d fun hm miikl. 1| mm "kl. pronto films, and _|t1st :1l_ot of exi1erttt1ettt- "7"" ",1. m,,w /- H. /.|-nun, I,,.,,;,I.,"_\-
'.'(l[ll, we tlith1't do :1 master and then mg" lr' Gllllc liars m. Sm .hm_"_"' t'm'nIt't'1I in tnittinlttr-1 /1/tulugrnpliv?
shoot a do/.en or more closeups to simply 5l" M41 "'3"-_ l)\"|"l "5 l'"f"l l"~' In ttiiiiiatttre pllotogrztiilti the first,
cover the seeiie as you wottltl in live :1tti1>tt. ~"f"l 1" -"'lM'*'r '5H"l l|""P'-l""5"' I most liasie problem is to make it look real.
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storylimirtl. .-\i1d I think tl1at's one of the "'""||)' "1 ll"! "'1"! ["7 \""".\'"l' P"l'5"5 iinportatit shot of the movie, beeztttse tl1:1t
things tl1:1t in the past l1:1s been tliffiritlt for '""k"l_'_|" *""l"l "ml hllll " 5"_""l is ~||;|\ ',,]| mgr k-\-,_-|-y,,m- ;|-ay [mm tn-_
special effeels people to tlo. Often times li|l|fY- '5 .\l\' 'l\l'"\ 1" "ll Ill" l""3""":" ing itt the theatre itito that leap of faith.
the tlirertors have very little utitler.\"t:11ttIit1i; ll": 5\"'5- ll B"3"l"_"_5 ffnd 5'n"l l'"'ll' George was very worried about that shot
of .t!n't'i]'t'nt1l_\' \\'l1at they want \1'ht't1 they "-K 5" "l l"!~!'~"_l' "l i lfl'"' "ml ztlsti. If you blow it t|1ere,ai1tl the atttlience
deal with :1 f:1|1t:1s1' sitiiatioii. Their visual 5"'~""'~' "l '5"l"l1'l' Hf" "'_"l|h"r,""" is nut roinpletely totalled out, yot1\e lost
concept is totally ethereal. They sit there "Y l"~"'f"'' if lf"ll"'{"" "en" R"_l"fl them. The sotttid effects and musie helpetl
and look at the screeii until they see what -4" l"'Ck_"l" m'' ''k'g M Ml "\l"'l 5 a great tle:il there. too. In otlter words. the
they .um_ (;."m. |m.;|_\. .33 guuli in [hm totnmerc1:1l house fora year atttl
:1 half. tlo- rs shm Sc H, SW, and H, mm, and
way. \\'hei1ever there was :1 question. it was "9 ckjclftlttte p|",|(igr:ipl1y_ 4'"
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a matter of me pressing to get an answer slmls |'k"_l'~ k'l"'g 7'UP """"'""'"1]"' see and accept that. then you've got it.
from him ;1 roitrise and simple and direct '35 l)'"lvl'Yl"h" Dykslm rm "k m Ifliv rlltl \-nu usr the l'irlul't'.riott rtglzl
atiswer :1t1d that's one of the things that SIAR "\_R5 ml l'_"l" one "li W kfy pt'r]'nrii!iur1 jilrntul?
'5""\|il""l"l l" ll"
\'m<'l'~"Y "T lZ"'"P- ll" clulnunls m lo .r"r.m"i1 Ur ]ml.usml I had poketl :1ro1tt1tl abottt a year earlier
and resultetl in the film coiiiing in close to I'll?!" "ml 'g_ m an Buys C '5 um and l1:1tltIiscti\eretl \'ista\'isiot1 equiptnent.
budget. rcny. 5, ""'
.m"' llnd U": umlm:" r _]oh1t Dykstra proli:1bly tliseoveretl it con-
The product was certainly worth the \K'\'l\_' iurklng Wm Jhll.D_yks"a 0 eurrently. The itlea of working witlt :1 large
m'"Y 5P""l' '""".\ P"'llll"K ml slulll" the special fans rm G"\l\(I""\' negative of that size was very exciting to
with some faith in the ability of sperial ef- me. 'Iet'l1t1ically, you t:1n't shoot minia-
feets to give tltetn something protlurtion ll Ill! _\'"" l"'l"'""' ""'"ll"l I" STAR lures with Ian:1\'ision lenses, or atizitnorphie
dollar-wise that will show tip on the screen. W.-IRS? lenses. those that squeele the image and
That has opettetl tloors for people in the Dick Alexander and I are friends. lle ts 1|-n unsqucgzq ii in pmjcciium |N_-;,u5 of
setise that studios are ttow less prejutlieed tlte machinist who basically built most of 3|] kinds f p|i;,] pmh|cms_ '|'] 1|;-pi]; of
against :1 film that involves a lot of effects. the equipment and kept everything Kuigi field is very strange. You can't get very
wk! '1'" .\"" Pl""~ I-"7 "'1' "'"'""'/I-111! ml he '35 5! K""ll fflfml "f .l"l"\'5- ll '35 close to tniniatures because they start (lis-
fttlurt? through him that _]oht1 found out about rm-ting in wqint way-_ You havc qt, 511001
Right now I'm eonsitleriiig getting tn- me. with spherical lenses or use models ten
gether :1 corporation of some of the people -'\PPi1R"llY Gilt) Kufll _l\ild lilk"_ll"- times the size we used.
who were working on S'I'.~\R WARS in key Pml"'5l Mound WW". i-"111 ll W515 Ul)\l"\15 \'ista\'ision is a double 35min frame.
positions. If that happened, we'd be iti the ha! he mchnology ." Ho. ,he .m (.10 0"" 9" ll": h"5i"5 "1 _5P3C'5\| CH-"5" l5 "'1"
position to negotiate for some good tleals. [he show -luhn told mm t
H d."' hhl Y9 k'f" "P" W"- ' H""B l ll-we O
not only for ourselves but for other per- cost. 3 lm of mlmcli mt us m
"I'P'"!}- bu ml ls. Hf mly .?? E cim
[_ C dupc mmr \" have m 5'19" the ("'5'
sons in\*ol\'ed in the industry who might be S7l imd '9 hCkg"""d -15 5I*i"@"3 cl!
working for us. Its a complex thing. But it b.ldunc' Oltcrwlcllll aulldli l Hi ll": ""~'f"5-_u"l5 Yml "5? \l"~ hcll'l1lk' Y5_"3"':v
gucs 0,, and lmiliw pniglk of mum," pic. f"B"\l lk-.l " 5:5? The I -"llfl if which is a 1_rery laborious process. We dtdt1_t
tun-s_ how in gm monc)v in "ier to pm, ""ed: "l"'~"f" -1c~\m]r~1T']'l~\"'~ ~15; have the time to deaI_wtth that. 200] did
duee, how to make :1 living. imttiricty, arul l_"' Ml ".d f :1 j li__ that. but most of their shots 1-vl't' 511181!-
all that other stuff is something that you've aucpl he Jubguiffrsl cm"r"";lk3': $0 X15 _m"~5i V-TY P"d"5- Fund 5h'5
gm H, (|;,| with day H, (u)" pm ,_~,,p,m|m__ !'4l PhllZ'-P 1- ll tlT'~1_l that _|llSl sat there on the screen for a long
ing GAL:-\C'I'IC.-X, but Wlltll I'm l)ElSICZlll)' P'f1 ff ":ld '."~ I "| }:"g "mt-
bargaining for is the opportunity to direct )0 p'rc\wus.h ms I-lumpefl at lm.c mil-' Btfmc STAB WARS l_3dY had PVC?
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WUY k Or f CZ] l UYC \\()T k * '1h \*1~<l l ""0 1" '~mP1& l""|d|"E- ""1 seen a spaceship do these kinds of things.
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we" as supervising mu spc, CU; "10"!" li""_W _~\ l '5 c"'P 91 That s why we wanted to dn ll. So it was a
c 1'3] e ff e K-;s_ tvhm h appe "Cd on T\R .
5P"~"l CHE! 5"-l'- "l J" P"C"lh f~k" matter of settling on the scale of the entire
WARS can happen 'again_ That "cud of Panmcnlv rl5CP d'~'P"mc"'~- m-C "1" project, how big the models would bc, be-
film is comin B back in a bi g wa'Y1 which shop and mum . .
CW" Y0" ""1 hi" ~l"Ylli"S "'1" 8 I
means we're all going to have work and -John mm me hm Gwrgc anmd '0 out of focus. 'I'hat's the prime rulc. Arty-
therc's going to be some really great make he mm because he mmed '0 have thing that goes out of foeus is a dead give-
achievements. It's durable lm convinced
of that. I - INTERVIEW BY l\"CK GARRIS
:1waY- W! W""~'d ll"
"d'~'l | 5 as
small as possible so they'd be easy to heft
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faith in it, l knew it could he dune. Not 0n- get the models close to the lens. The closer
|Y _fl1ll-bu! l l_""~'' If W9 "3" B'"K lo you can get the lens to your subject. the
build a production system to handle that nearer it can pass you by, hence the rnnrc
V"l\lm1? "f \\'ll<. Illa! W? hall lhc VQ bil5"5 dramatic the effect. The traditional effects
tools You need for successful special f- cameras are htunungoiir. The other camera,
f"u5' l'"'5l '5 3" il"5"l"-'l:' T'~'P'~'5"3llc1"f' the sister unit for the Dykstraflex which
era system, so that you _can rnake multt- we used for backgrounds and star fields,
P355 5ll5 1"~'l""""E U"! "kmfcill mo"? "l was a converted Tecltiiicolor rainera which
ht 5l"5 f"' C-1" c]'~"'""- 5'~l'""l- W! was about a foot high and about ten inches
Rd -1" ll5"l"|cl\' 'li1|l'lc m-U112 5Y5lm' wide, mounted on a huge head. The aneu-
Thufc -1" ll \' "mi" l"t'"(ll'"fi5- if Y9 lar displacement and all. the motions it did
do ' haw [hem "!~l''th_"" YP" r'~' "l ""hl\' were electronically matched ratiowise to
"T -1| 135! 5'~"'"*|}' llmlmll "'\ 'l]l Y"" 1'1" the tracking camera. So a shot that was
do. Al Miller designed the motton control made U" [he kmg "Mk ,_-[mid he mkcn mm-
systetn, which was _|ust iinbelirliable. lt was wiqhnut the 1-ackloop, using only the pan,
sf Yellilhlc hm We did" hilvc ml down tilt and roll to shoot the stars at iiifinit 3.
(I.l'TlC,l\Cl". Thats another thing. The old concept
lflml tor! of rr_nmriuriu:atimis problems of muhiptaning stars hm Y0 5. all he
t'YISllltf hettoevti (;!)1_Qt',w'I!) was ovcr.n.'1zs me is so phony and ridi(.u|0us_ \~"u',|
8"! P971141" '1'. lfll f""1'- 11"! the "f/("73- have to be in a rock storm for anything to
be passing that [ML
crew at lndustrtnl Light {'a'l\lngic, .reqiu'st'r-
straight down to 30" up, and boom up antl hoards and conceptual material. _]oe _]0hn-
d"._ h is on u _;3_fm, ],_."g|, Ur "Wk. sum did thc 5tQrybQ;u~d_ Hg was jug ;;m;;z- ly realized that Ilia! was how it would real-
l electroiiieally controlled so that you can
run the lotallengtlt ..n|\t- lritfl, then back
ing. Ht did an awful lot on STAR WARS.
when George did get back, he spent
lY look if!"ihvvling 5"""~' lm ml 5'~'f"S
what we were zwing- 11's df5=lPPi'"l"S
up and iiiake exactly the same moves again about two weeks on the stage with me Wilt" Y-he KUY5 l" "W mudcl 5hP 5Pcd
so precisely that you e;int tell the differ- everyday. I'd make a shot on black-and- 4090 mil" h\"5 d!3ill"S CV97) link blb
l etice. white stock so he could see what the mo\'e
looked like, and he spent a lot of time go-
and f"!"3'5 lhf5 f|l5l\ Coming
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Y1"-\ 951"! 51'"
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I)i1I you ii.n':1uiiI:I|--/ui.r.tmatting!
gm -|~|m|-5 hm _],,|m .;"",..| H, ,p,_ in K,-,1-r ;q_ |||| ;|y_ \\'h;|; wnuld it bi; ticular shot. lii another shot, you may see
That was the initial idea, but l felt that like if we moved this way instead of that ""9 mill lf'~lll- -\5 ll \\'l"l'~'- Wm K"! U
hlue screen was the way to go. way," becaiise he had the whole cutting kw Wlllll ll"! mlt<lll lltvki lflw. lull You
iflial nmllu you t'fI|I1I.\'|' Iflt l|[ut- _u-n-no plan in his head. We couldn't have that. We "\'f 5'39 fl f" "IR" 5l10l~ Tl\1\l'5 "|\lll"'|'il1\!
pnict-st? had his dog-fight film. so we knew how the everytliiiig that we're doing. lhv reztlil-1!i<tI\
#1. Because, first, you can use coiiveiitioiial l'fftct Shots were cutting. \\'orkin_t; with llllll Will ll"! '~'X'~"l'l)\l"" "f ll"! hill 5liP5-
cameras, second, your matte is obtained (iLur_t:t on the sequence, he recognized \\'l\i-ll l'"" do 1"~'- 1\"ll "'1' l)\'1lll\ 51!".
from your tirigimil |1t'g;|ti\-t~_ and ||_|5 ti"; what the liinitations of working with the which is just sitting there the ships are
best chance of holding size and ni;itchin_q System were, and could then begin to live fairly visceral, rather than \ll|;\l.
exactly. We did some doublepass ntattiii_i5. with Hm Hmimlions in arms "f M5 i"1- whc" 6"!-'~' '3-1m'~' l""5k fml l'i"l1""l-
we spent that time shooting film tests of
but in onlt-r to utilize ii"; tg-[|\i1i;|\||_~ for agined effects scenes.
E inost of what we were doing, the exposure Ilnzu IYl(Itl)' new Iecliiiiqiit-s mirlforrnr of (Will 5|")! lN'f0Y \V"ll ihlml ll- U5!!! fl"
of the niatte would liave to be absolutely rqiii/ntietil rm-re th'r'i'Inpm[ .rpi'i'ifirrilI_v fur Y1fk'ttKL' film WC ll doth Part of \lu* St-
the saint as the t-\~p.>.m- of the objt-t-t, .\'l'.lR It.-IRS? (i"'1~'- and \\"L"il "11"P4"!"f"<'\'"lliI\s:-
otherwise when the models streak, as they l"-ach new situation that we faced pre- Th" 5'~"l~"*' "lllllll full fl 1| \!"\' ll ml
did a lot, the streak of the inattc has to be seiited a new problem, and a solution 'l"kPf! Y'~'llf"t; $""\l'll\flHl- llilltl \1\'ll' HI
exactly the szinie as the streak of the lI\li would often entail doing soiiietliing which |\f l'~'fl- WP Pick \I|> lIi$ lillt Hf iqltt lltul Put
del. You have to fill in all the sliadow holes had never been dune before. The runiiiiig l" "W l'l4"" l" ll"? '|'|""\"'~' fill" \'l'l""'-'"\
iiikc at ll..\l was doing soinetliiing new and 5"!-Z lhl 5lll' ll" 5*"~*- T" ml" 1'14" "' Pl"
so you don't leak the iiiatte. lt would liave
been ridiculous to do it \llt\lltlt'-|IL|SS. shouting .\I\t)\llt'l' first!" '1' shill "ll " ll"! l*\'l"". l"" ll" ll!-ill" II"
l knew that if we did tl<\'t'lti)) a blue Um ufllir-n|o_i'I itti/1ri'.v.\'iz-ejitn-trnj I/it" ll- i""l "IF" "1 lhl l)l'k*"'llf|*'X ?""l'fi\~
screen systein, that it would work. l had xpr-rt}iI 1-_/_'1t'i I.\' tutti Ilir n-nIi.\'lir \"iniitIu1ion our L-"mml i5 1' "'4 Wm "*'l\' l"- Y
complete faith iii that. (iconic did worry of _t/n't':I, ]mrIitti1nrl\' in I/ti !n'm"li .\'i' k"h5 " ii 'hi"| '?k'~' 1'"Y"'"'ft\'*'|l'
about it. Not that ttl\|t'l\ blue screen has i]H|HttJ. Ilnzu it1|.\' IIit'.i iitIn]'i't-1/? l"'5 5-!" l*'k\\'1\"l~ "T f'"''1"l5- l 5111"
been done for ;i long filth. lhit l think we \\'e knew tli.it there w.is a certain d\- l'l' l"".\I|'*\"""l".\; ht lTi\<'i<. \\l1il'h ii lhv
h; wk.-n u. Slimm, Hm ,,|"t,|m. S,-n.,.n H mun [hm it hm! m h;|__ ml | km, mg, grossest llll)\'t. l*roiii the fihn we find out
you ha\'i- 1-nouglt time and inone\' to uo iii- George watited the ships larger within the hm Mil 'l"~' "l'.l"" '"'"~ l
l"' 1" lhl slim
l ll ll ill '-Y ""11 T lli"l ml l"'l \'"l\- frulne than most of the \\orld \\:ir ll foot- "I ill" "l""'~'v "ml l"'' hill ll '?\"l5 1" [Wgoes -ll
stiltants that were 2|\'.\ll-tltlt you r.ui do it. age we worked front. lit that, there \\t'|;- the end. So l ltirn the pot, the cinnera
lt hasn't been used in .| loin; tin\t' licczitlse planes inissing you by Ll liiindred feet or so. "P l|"~ "4"'k' ll "WY i"'\'l'|'-\\*'- l"\\' ll*>'|h
producers worried about it. 'l'l\ey'd sci" bad \\'heii the head for the llvkslraflex canierai ml '~""' li"'k- -H"? $lll' "W" ""l'-
blue screen shots. 'l'liey'd see blue fringe. was being desiigned, l tried to keep it as T|l1 ll" i|l"i""- 4l'l"~'1'1lI"1'l'=lII\t>'v-'ll\l'
But I had seen inan\' shots done where you narrow as possible, honing; off
half-inch a ""ll'l 55 1il- "1 ll""'l l"l\'\ l" llill" ill"
couldn't tell it was .i iiiatte shot. So l had here and thcre,|naking it so that you could \\'l1"|'~ i1l,lZ\'- Y""iT\' '~'>'\"\lf1\||l' l''kf"l ff
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tn it. l:-rh.ips it has tu|nn\'<'fmn1 nne stile t-11; firiitm
|||y||k$ ;||tt| tlmiig tlr;|\\-tings.
of the st"rt'<'n tn the uthvr. It has tnl1.1\'v:t llt' :|tlt't\tlt't| t'ullt't;t' fur l\\'n yvurs ill .\ntt-
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pan, with ;tt\ :tt\'clt'r;ttiut\ mid tlcrclt-r:itiutt gm: in 19;g_ ||( mm -um 1., (j|] _\n,
tu it. Tlivn thc tilt has tn mzttrh it. ll has tn \\'url&iIl\; tumtrtls .t .\l.tstt-r uf l-inc .\rts tlt-~
tnll :1 hit. .-\llt'r you prtngmtn mic t'lt'tt\t't\t u. hm mppL.| Wiuml win." tn. |,L-mu
of tht rztntrrn Inution. you run it hark tu '.,"ki"u I,r,,|".55;,|L,]]\'_ |__m.r (,"_ [W H-_
llw hv1l- "W" tlmtv-11 "H" "H1 <"'- '""*' tttmt-tt 1. (llll .\rts in AI lt'.|t um t'.|p.tt'il\'.
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lfltultt-unl1I_\w||1 \t'un'/tig/tt'rI/11!?! 3.3?! motion zmimzttur livitn; in .\'t'\\' York (Iity. mi|'ru|' unlu |]tt- utttlt-rsith~ nl .t ~;lutt wt
l'tl srnrr rt-rtttitt putts of 2001 higher. llc tlitl titlc ztttittmtiun fur mt NBC s|ut'i.\l ||;\pur or rel, \\'hit'h um-.m\ th.t\' \\'t~ h.tt| t<>
sitttply ln:r;|ttst' tht-y htul intrt't|il1|t' ;tt1tl rt-t't'i\t~tl Al |{T1\lll frum tho .\l~'l |'nr 1| rt-~ W [y,|1]l\|1't'|][ Ur 1|-_||is-||.m-in m.|tt~ri_tls-.
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and 5"l"l"l lY '1' "l"l""l
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stage. They i11cl111le1l tltings like :1 lack 111' up on 1111- ,,m_
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clscl WY \\"~"l utlllfltilc |T\11lll'-" l" "\1"Y 1lilTere111 \ersi<111s of that. \\'e were just try-
shnts nl tlte spaeesltips, most 111' the hltte in 1,, m;,};,_~ jg -.,rk_ .\| [hm mm-_ (;m,n=.-
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ll! lllli. there were shuts tl1at hllll ll"! the111sel\'es. Tltey |1ee1le1ls1>|11etl1i11g else. =\ mm' mmhmm rm hm Wu" is
atttl giant people. lle USHP5
prnbletn ul'sl1:11l0wsm1 tl1e hhte sereen. l1e- 51-1111111 1111it \\';|s e\'e11111:1ll1' set 11p;1111l11e1\' I \ '_| D . i :111e111le1l I eulleqe i11 .
cause in eertaitt setups, the ships wnultl he explusi1111s were l'il111e1l. B111 we \\'11rl;e1l 1111 n " lnhll. lr]"'_" l."'.l Him]? li.'_'_" ll:
right up near the hhte sereett. There were a11im:1le1l 1'11l1;1111"e111e11ts fur :1 l11n_1g 1i111e i11 H mf _(_lnu";. mull "l"l"_rl
shatlows at titttes 1111 the hltte pylon ship 1111 effort tn make tlte ll..\lexpl11si1111s s:1tis- m "":*_|'." l; .v yr _"' "l;'
supports. This sitttatiun 1":1lle1l l'11rue1asi1111- fy the tlireetnr. 3 Ur M. ml"
um m- ""\H_ "ml |_ (hill:
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by [he English (.n.._ My purnllur "Pink," .._xp|m_im L_"]mm_1_"_m1- Jnmunwd In :1111l 1l11r111r; s111n1111"r \'.11.1111111s. 11 1111111 11111
is tl1:1t :1 eertaitt antuuttt ul spill is 1111:1\'ni1l~ 1111111-_i11l1i1111i1_;|11_]ik1~;111_1||1-111111 111111_1k1- "r l" ""l']"'" _""| *_'l|'l""l"ll
11111 R01 M1-11-1-1 was 11111111 =-1-1-1 h<-\- .~.....,11.-1. .-1,11...1...... 1....11.........1....1..-
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but vim shiny (-uni. surfaces and 5 0" cmncxh 1111111 \\l11t 1.111 11 sun 1111.1s|11I1.t 1 1111 11 -
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srmtv blur r1'j7:-rl1'1111.r spill mtln I1lspruji'l1'. They were plattning 11> tln :1 srieiire l'i1'ti1111 ill "r'll.l."'d"il "_ll'N"|'.;." f:l_ (_""l
Ifan 11111-111-r1'1'l1'1l ru111;mS|'l1'1'1 "ll"/1'. 1I11'r1' film almttt :1 1nile~l1>1\1g sp:1e1'sl1ip that lttlqltl ""5 U "l ' "rm" "5 m P U 5 l ".m"'m'
wuulrl hr 11 Imlr in his 1'l11*1*kI1m11'. I-..\'.'1t'!I\' get surketl intu :1 lilaek hule. The stun is PP m(Li-shot .z..wh l\ml\:"i-"- \-;"'(l.l]"rmls Hi
haw 1/11 _\-1:114 1,111 ulmul 1~l1'1n1'111tl1'n_g lltix? tl1at they 1le1"i1le1l't1> drop 1l1eir_sp:1t'1- 1-pie i):::g"|'|\'_' ''m:_' l"l":iv"'3:r
The mam ttlea was t11.r1_1nmt!: tl1e hhtl when the\ saw .\l.-\R \\.\R.\. ll1e\' were .
- - -
l . . . - .1
spill lrnm the blue srreen. What we tlitl was saying 111 it-:11l1 other, \\'l1er1- tlitl all tltese
make :1 matte which lelt tlte hlue srreelt ptt)plL' 1'un11' from?There's;11g1111g11lpeo- I . ' 0 '
"lnfm If 5ll'T".l"l flrrlil lz
. -
visible l111t masked out all tl1e pesky areas ple out there who did this itttpnssihle stull! llhlnm l'_T_'Hlml_
of l1l11e spill. This eletnent was used with \\'e'\e never I11'11nI of these 1.1111-s!" It's :1 lit- S MS " tinullx _ml.l;.DM::;;lP I'll.
tl1e pltotnm-;|phi(~ maucs U, prim H, .m_k_ dc __riL__ 111.111es. 11111 was resp1>11s1
_..._11 1 e 1111 . t1e
pit exterior. .-\ll 11111 uften, the spill wnultl lt1'!I1 mm zuurk 1'11 /mt1"Ii1'11Il_\' 1'2-wry 1'/l l_l'l".E"":'ll l"l l"ll'_*l"~'[~"l_""'}|"""5
be right 11p a_1;ai11st the e1lge11l'a1111l1jett.i1t _/'11lx .1/1111, I'll I111 _\-nu 11-1'n' 1111111111-rirtg 11/ "'l"\_ "l_ '3 h'll'i -lull) ":.ilhl';; Ill
cuntaet with the l1lue screen :1rea. We had
to go in and create /1n'c1'.1iu11 1'1Ig1'.1, do the
ST.-II1 ll.1lRS 1 r '111'l1 I/1 .1111 11 '
-nul1I1't'1r " "," slll "cm SW" m W I m . l l 5"
1~1111|pl1-111111, r l U J
WOYR Ol ll"- ltlllt ll'1\'1 511 tn speak. ln Dial vuu reatl the .\'1111'111m[ l:'11qu1'r1'r is- , . " I ' ' "
many (11St'. we fnund it neeessary to e0m- whirh inrltttletl an arlirle with 111111~ h\(()'l%l{'\
s11e
Pfvflliill \\'l1Bl'l ll W35 imPl'ilfliC&ll I0 Pm \\'_"\R3'' 1) '_ k f
U"" M
.
menl by George .\lather, uur pr111l11etiu11 " -R 1
_ , mm
duct these previsiun ed1z1's- What we were sttpervisnr? 111- mctttimtetl 1111- l':1e1 111.11 1111 ("UTE [MUS mmq"S' M up .l l"'""
left with in some of tl1e cutnpnsitcs are star 111111111 six weeks. it re:1ll\' luuketl as 1|1<111gl1 -*'Tlh'l l"l lull f W urslllll 5 u.'s'
backgnmnds coming ihmugh rennin Jams wt migh gm H, Mug imul On H, pip and 1:1111ee111r:1le1l111<1s1ly1111 the I)-ath .St'1r
but l don't nutite them \\l1t'I1lSt\ll1l I110 ture! That was late in I976. llanlly ;111\' ml lllghlim s"|"""-.5 I _'.5.4"'rl' Pluusf
'l- l-"CRY ["7 "5 lhi" "105! Ur ll\5'~' 5'1"" shuts were dmte. Millions 11f dollars hzul Cd lhcn skcd w..wmk ml SIAR ARS
am in [hr f;m..s1_ mus dislrucling pans of |m__n Spun and we had snmhing like for two reasons, I-trst. ll1a1l4:1 1111-111 1le_aI_<1f
he mm~ I gm "lEl"Y familial llh llmsc S30-40,000 a week i11 payroll. l'ru1l11eti1111 rcSp.':u my Gc.r-Li, l";'s' hls_mms' ms '"'
cock its! The standards were set ve W' hi K h. '
_]\.lSl \\.1snt' there.
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.1 (.art vnu mmgntt
' ' . Sl.lR l'~'!!T"Y1 ml l"5 \'|5\ll 5\"5l'- 3'~'l"""l- .l"l"\
. - .
not vnlv by Gwrsv Luws hut by Rub 1311-
lark. Robbie, of Course. rlitln't want any
It'.tRS
cam5\mph(. is
11.11 11.11111/11111111121?
funmsliCa_||,,. mmumic us_
1 11111{11111.11.1.-111 DY".
m11u_s]ol1
'~PP'"?"l ""dl""= "".
by using ettstnm 1111l11str|:1l-ele1-
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bad compusims going "UL pen of me who: non, umugh it _as.t truntt" eq111pm11l \\;1S extnqnely eh:1lle11_1;.
What was your working silualiuti like? exaqly plusang 31 111; gm-_ \\'m-king at "lg-H
wtmn | rs; S,-rd um M |LM' which IL was almost like being in 3 soap perm ltnvtnetliately _l'11ll1111'i_11g the 1'11111plt-tinn
l
W35 abclul "inc m"ll\5 an" lhc "B"lZ' with all the trials and tribulations we went "I SIAR w"\R5' cums "*'l l" '"'k m
lion was formed, George Lucas and Gary
Kurtz were nowhere to be seen! They were
through! In retrospect, it makes STAR
WARS all the more remarkable. I tNTt~LRV1t3W BY I'.'\Ul. .\l:*\NDl'lLl.
21
I
v
I" 5I\Ul l"lgl'0\1l"~I5 \15l" 01115-lilvm for the optical department. Rob Blalack
CI.OSl'l I-i.\'C()UI\"IIiRS OF TIII-I THIRD W115
tilm41T1\- -\5 was in charge of the composite work: vet-
KIND, spending five months with Douglas I"lIl- Il'~XlII'~ I)Yk5l\'ilnX got to an Bil] Rim-lttilt hcipqti st-t him tip, Rub
'I'rumIiull and Steven Spielberg on the ef- Ill ll'"ll'l f\'Ul\'tll and wefound closerthat the studied the best techniques of blue screen
feets pliotograplty of the .\Iothership se- "\" l""\I>l'~'ll1Y" lliite. we in town and saw to it that we wo\tldn't get
quence which ends the film. lle is presently If'"'.\!|'"\""I~ "'' lilklll "'0 "lufll li1""~Tl\
l"'~' l" $I'l- I ""ll""~"I >':""lI l"~\m'~'['i1 matte lilies and all the traditional stuff tltat
working on the special effects for the
4'
"4"" I" ll"}l"t-IT-1_Pl\ ll"~'" "5"\ lll" mill" seems iuher~-nt in blue screen composite
forthcoming tt-It-vision pilot G=\I.;\(2'lIC.'\ shots. The) did a great job. Blurred edges
under the supervision of_]ohn I)ykstra._Iini l'1\"'Ti\ 1" "lKIll- 5} ft" 1\I}""l .l"l' "l_""//'5
I '35 5I_l"\ ~"I"l< ill '"$I_"Ai"I Rllilllml
had never been dune before to this extent
Ilanforth eagerly awaits his services on
Tl.\lIiC.\'II~'.. where lte will be pliotograplr '-'5 _I"ll"'!~'. I" III IN? II"- '35 "I E"! in blue screen.
|.;v,_.n mung! he Om bank. mug:
mg H ,.qm.m.,. i,.|\.i"g ying rm-k,_.| ,,_.,,_ the ftlnt tlone belore our release date of
HY 29- I'll" l1\"I*l3""'_'~I5 "'"' ""I"~"I ll started out as our guide, we followed it
utilizing perspt-cti\'e pltotngraplty and the for only half the shots. George and his
teclmittues pioneered by Iloward and 'lhe- \f'l\tul'\'er we could. borne \\'trt Slllil l1l'
I'",R1\I5" "ml I)*l"' B'~"'l'Y- wife were constantly reeulting the film to
otlore Lytlecker, soniethint; that Dennis has """, make it better and In-tter, and in doing so,
always been particularly fond of. Ii"I" .\"' "-\'/[""l 1" ').\'l"_1'l'{./l*<\'
new or upduwd Shuts} Tn. being uddcd J"
trn .\y.\!t:rrt um! tvlty you met! rt |lL\'Itlllf of
1"""*"l!l"'ll /"'l'l"Il'-5' the time.
IIUIU Ilflf you gt-I im-nlrwl in 1In- t-_/_'/'1-r1.\'
II0lt' t'Xllt'ff\l ./in you film IfIlIYIiI1ft1lltH
,,/,,.i.,tmi;/iv 1, ST.-Ilt n'.|1es/ 4\\ llw *1:-rt ->l Ilw l"'_"J"\- 1-P-use l\1-
cas had some very specific ideas about the in H. I/uL,j'l-em'_n.l,m,x:,
X/H-/,_\.
l met _]ohn Dykstra during I974-T,-i
l1lT$l\lI' $I\Ul>- II" I1lI 3I'"Il' "Il"I III" It was tip to l{it'I\artl and myself to set
when he was working at Future General for up um miniawru W. would go U, hc Ca
Dong Trtunliull. .\t the time I was looking .\'eq\te|\ce using actual black and \vhi_te bat-
tle ftiotage and scenes from other airplane .|\u.,_. u. ships wen. pun om .h;L.\.
for work there hut nothing was available
movies, and what he wanted us to do was ship was L..ssm.y rm. the Sim" plan. il U"
for me. I soon heard frotn lint Danfortlt U. ml. Pym hm. in [mm Hf ll. blue
and liill Taylor that George Lucas was tin to duplicate each of those shots using X-
sf"-L-H. and 5-1 up mu c;,_.m in such 3
ing STAR \\'.-\R$. They inquired about dz wings. Y-wings. or 'I'.l.l".. ships. Our shots
would be cut right into his sequences and way that by tilting it at one angle and pm.
ing the work and found George sort of grumming ,l~,;";\in XL-5' wc -mitt] cm] up
non-responsi\'t'. George had his own way of replace the black and white footage as they
were shot. \\'hat he had done was pre-shoot with 501"-[||i|\g that |m,k,_-1| lit; what [hr
operating which just \vas not whatglint and storyboard called for. What tnade the shots
Bill had in mind. So nothing came of that. and preiedit the sequence in a sense a
storyboard on film. Using the black and work was setting up this stuff to look as
Frottt hearing what they had to say I sort though the ships were actually flying along
of got turned off by it. .\ number of other white footage as a guide. we knew the shot
length, ship motions, and direction of and not that the gamer; was raging tri\\';tt'd
people had contactetl tl\e offices about do- the ship or that a certain motor was stop-
ing the effects work and they didn't even travel for each xliul. But how do you do
this duplication? .\Iost of the cuts were be- ping at one point and starting at another,
get their calls returned. It seemed like which was exactly what was happening!
somewliere off in the middle of nowhere, tween '10-50 frames long, with these very
specific motions of the ships. ll'a.\' t-rwrytltiiig nmzorizml?
George Lucas was going to make this film. Except for explosion shots, everything
incltiriiiig rho I-t'ftt~i, II;- iIi<|ni set-m trio One approach is stop-motion the |no-
dcls can be moved to exact positions be- was motorized. There were a few hack
opt-ii to|i- tliuuglitsqr 5\|gg1;5tiun, ground shots where the camera was pushed
I later heard that_]ohn Dykstra bad gob
tween frames. lint john Dykstra insisted
ilk ships he blurred when traveling fast by hand, but in most of the ship scenes.
ten the job. I contacted_]ohn and showed everything was on motors. This meant that
him an educational film I made for Charles just as they were in the old battle footage.
This has always been a problem in stop- the camera would track and the boom arm
Cahill on the l'niverse. That had about one would go up and down and perhaps du
hundred twenty outer space shots in it, all motion; each frame is clearly defined, not
blurred due to speed. eight other motions, each with its own uto-
shot in lmni with a liulex. But I didn't tor, to produce one ship shot.
hear from John for about ten months. I \\ith the help of a half dozen engineers
and electronics men, a camera was built There is a pninl I should make regarding
thought that STAR \\';\RS had folded. All an advantage in using the Dykstraflex"
of a sudden I got aeall from him asking me that is essentially a motori'/.ed horizontal
animation stand, except that it shoots and motion control system in effects camera-
to go to work, and that was it._]ohn knew I work. Say you were doing a shot the way
had been working at Cascade Pictures as an runs continuously and is much more flcxi-
hle than any animation stand. The camera the Lydeckcrs did in the Republic serials-
animator and an effects cameraman. .-\ lot ying a ship down wires and shouting it at
nf people came around with a reel under is at the end of a boom arm with eight feet
of vertical travel. The boom arm is on a 40 high speed. You'd have a couple of guys on
their arm but they never held down a job. the lights, a few camera people, two or
50 .I0l"\ ffll I \\'Il5 fmPl9"l Ind llll I foot track for horizontal travel. The cam-
era can also pan, tilt, and roll. I-Zach of three guys rigging the wires, and one guy
\\Il5"'l .iii" I0 llukll ""<l'~Y PlL5\"'-~ I checking the ship in case the wires break.
'"""d "P \\'"kl"E Will Richard EIll"I"l these axes or motions is operated by a mo-
tor. By varying the speed of each motor, You'd probably have at least twelve people
who '35 1\II==\dY Bl lnduslrlal MEI" 3" on that crew. If you suddenly got an inspir-
Mil =5 Y5! C!5 i\"""1""J"- Rldlilnl with rheostat or joystick as well called it,
a
a camera motion, such as start- ation to change the shot somewhat, it
ii \lYY !lll"l'~3llY l'l"ll aml hid I1 Il 1 we can vary
would be a major undertaking. There
ll" {dill '~"l" QP l_Il 5IP ml "i"K ll" ing a boom-up, increasing a camera tilt, and
would be lots of people on the payroll who
ll-"l""' l""C""l"'eI- so forth. The real trick is being able to rc-
member each of these motor moves so that would just have to stop while wires are re-
T'""1' 0" ll I"! "f )'0"" l"'"P'1 "I 3""
rigged and the camera is repositioned and
l'""If"- '1""'~f'"m"' 1" "'"f"'l-- we could repeat moves exactly. This is
where the computer comes in. lt's not rmf the set is relit and it's really a big deal. But
The 3'6"!!!" 18 ill IIIM "'"5l""~ ban because the Dykstraex system can be run
3501" 27- I lhlllk ll"
"Me" Pl5" W35 Iy a computer, but more of a memory sys-
literally by one person, it's no big deal to
D0" Tl_\""b"ll-_ D"S'5 ll=d- WI"! "5 cus- ll" tem for the motors. Richard Edlund and I
woutd regulam me spud and dirccon on changc a ;hm_ All it mam; is that you'd
mechanical designer for much of the
tomequipmcnt. these motors ourselves. We call this pro- jl $0 Over ll1C Pfvgfam YOU already did
gramming" a shot. It might take one min- and run the ship from right to left instead
70" /""l'!i"'"l1 "1 5"'"/ f""""'"'"'- um [O pfqgfarn what Wm hc 3 on.5c0nd of from loft to right, and possibly repro-
Ilow much work r1|'d_vnu actually rlu? gram two other axes. So the system allows
I shnt about half of the effects shots shot, But that one minute gives us time to
"I ll"? follow the hlack and white footage and you to haveavcry relaxed climate in which
ml Pmbblf it M88" P|'C"li\g easy to move the starships to specific points. The to create the shots instead of a hectic one
backgrounds, which were relatively that often happens with a large crew. It en-
shoot. Foregrounds are th'c more difficult memory allows us to scc the action again
and again before we shoot it, modifying it ables you to work in an atmosphere that
thing. By foregrounds I mean starships and generates out of a very tiny crew to do
by backgrounds I mean stars, the Death and making it better. Later, we photograph
the shot running continuously through the shots that formerly would have required
Star, and matted paintings. the work of a dozen or more people.
What was yaur working arrangement motions, shooting at perhaps atwn-second
exposure per frame at f22 for depth of Changing camera placement or a lighting
with Richard Edluud? arrangement for a bettcr shot with the
The way it was set up when lstarted. field. This continuous motion gives the
ships natural blurs on the frame. Dykstraflex is a relatively easy matter.
I was to shoot backgrounds using our limit- The peel-0/fs were spectacular. How
ed, older Tcchnirama camera, and Richard These blurs caused enormous problems
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were [liry ilmir?
The peeloll was one of the shots l had.
lzicli ship was shut on a separate piece of
film tn lie coinliined later optically. liut
the lI\tI\'\'lI\L'l\lS of earli ship using motors
were dillieuli tn tlo. ,-\ sliiiht inistake in a
speed rliaiige with any nintor would cause
thc ship to jerk luiiny in an unnatural way.
This was a t'onst.int prnlilein. We thought
1 this nut and tried to roine up with some~
thing that was easier than it actually look-
ed. .\lainlt'. the technitpie I employed was
using as tutu of the motors as possihle and
\ cralihing" the camera instead. as we call
it. (Iralihing is inn\'in_i; in on an object at
suth an angle that the ohjeei travels off io-
wards the side ul the lrainc instead of right
tow.iril the cainera. You don't have to ino-
tnri/.c the rainera tn make the ships tt\tl\C
in that way lit-cause the natural motion of
tlte ships as the camera mo\'es in is uuittg to
he the kinil oi "drift" you want. .\lainly l
tried tn a\'t\itl using the rainera pan aitd tilt
inuturs heeaiixe they ratlsetl the inost proh-
ltltlS, and lay erahhing the ctunera l elimi-
nated the need for tlinse inotors which
sinooilied out tlte $l\tl[. For iiisiaiu-e, the
cainera would inove in .iiid the ship wotild
start to roll at a eertain point. lt was also
motorized. The ship would then intwe to
one side and start tn fall away. At the Em! ii/'t'-1-Ix tll"|IViH|!1|Yl l)viiiii't.\1iin'ii tin I L-i Iiigliiiiig I'll AI I/ii. \| m ll \l I'l|].
same tiine, the eaniera lmuin arm would
go up, making it appear as thotigh the ship ent effects shots. they lelt that only ItY|t' lots wore liliie ol any kind, Now, ltl create
was diving dowit. \\'hen you run all these technique should be used instead ofinixing a liliii of the l1m-iirniiiid illuiniiiated
motions together and photngraplt it. you in. say. front and rear projeetioii or sodium ;;i;_|i|isi _i /I[|l| It liai kigriuiiid, we inake a Yl|_Q
get soinethinig tltat Iimkr like a peel-off. screen. .<\slot1!l as
all U the 5l"l5 '97? KW ulizw iii the inatte whiih \tIllll' out as a
Then it was done three more times for each int: ll ll? ll9"'~' l" Ill-1l W11). \\l' \\\'l"~ .l!"l"!l elear shape against lilai k. This is laid ii\'er a
ofthe fiitir ships. to take the time to do the he-'t blue screen color pti\lti\'L' pi-iiii (ll the tmt-iiniiiiitl oh-
Du \lIU Hlll1t1 Hiul in ull lliute peel-uff job ever. jeei against lilne. The clear area of the
.t/ii1_\' uiily one .\'/ll]! warfiltrtwlrit lime?
11 Till f"'"I"-ill"! 11" ]l1l1'll'-L I ""M" l matte allows tlte llflllllllll in of the lnrev
Oh. yes. Within that shot. i'z'er_vtIii'rig pick upa mn1lvli'ne riiiywlierc. ground object wltile the lilat k matte area
was shot on a diflerent piece of film. So There were a number of tricks we used blocks out the lilue si'i't-en. rendering it
there were several exposures. each photo- on show that helped nut. ln scenes where lilack. To luring this all togeilier as a rum
graphed against tlte blue screen. Each ship people and esh tones were involvetl, a /m\i'1i' i-/ml, we hipatk the matte with a
had tn ino\'e dil'ferently, which meant it great deal of time was spent to eliminate positive print of the h;itk_i_rroiiiidscene and
had to he on a differeiit program and set any matte lines and what we call lilue print this utttu iiiiexposeil lilin. tlten re-
up at a different perspeetive. So we actual- spill." blue light that spilled off the screen wiitd tlte now partiallv exposeil film, and
ly did lour programs on that shut. In addi- onto tlte helmets and laces of the guys in nntn it print a l'iiregi'iuiiiil positive print hi-
tion. there were two Y-wings in the back- the cuckpits. Some of the stuff that was pat'l;eil with the llCll(.|ll\t of the matte. :\nd
ground. liaeh one of lliun was shot separ- shot in l-lngland had alnt of hliie spill on it. In'Ii'i':-1' ine, none of this is .||\\' easier than
ately. With the star l>al'l&gl'<Yl1"lli Y0U'l'l llad we gone ahead and lelt it without ro- it stuiiids. l'\'e siinplilieil t\'L'l'\'llllllL[ in ex-
!i\ll<l"K l>l1\1l $t~\'en separate pieces of film toseoping, you would've seen througli their pl:iinini.; ii!
tn he combined. Then it was up tu the np- helmets and the sides of tlteir faces. So a (iimlil you i'.\/ilimi //it H\'| ~/ [hr hliiu
tieal tlepurtineitt to place the proper ships lot of work was done in the rotuscoping P)'[IIll_\'" tlll H/ll~4',| /Ilt'YYl|.ll!_H/|1TI' i/ii/>.r tern
in int"! "l cllfh "Ill" \\llll"l" llcltlllg 3") department as well. ll1lI|Hl[i'll jnr /ilio/iigrii;iIi_\-_ uiiil hill! I/ii-y
matte lines. You could see the dil'l'ieulty on .\laii_v of iu tlu nu! Ill1l!' a clear llY|([t'7" iii:/'/t-r /mm iiii tin/i'iiiir_\' hlllt Im1i'i'./
tit" Hill lu mill-KL illfk lhill llll lhk l1"l5 We .t!midi'rig of the ])YtIlCl[)ll' nitiolt-erl iii the Ordinarily you would have to light the
were lilming over a period ofdays \\'r Hlr blue .\'l'IttYl pmi:t'1s. hlue brace. The hlue pylon had its own in-
li"\1lli' going lu line up and luult as Well, you have to be ahle to generate ternal light. lt was actually neon wrapped
llloullll lhc 5llP5 W97" ac-all? lvllvwing two pieces of film. One is aperlect silhou- with a strong plastic tnaterial and coated
one another. ette of the object lo he matted. This is us- with the exact l|l\lL' pigment of the translu-
I\""ll"' imllonam "l'3k "1510 Ely" he ed to black out the background where the cent hlue screen. ln shooting hlue screen. it
illusion that then: were separate pilots fly- object will be. The second film is of the ol) is impnrtaiii I4! have as little reil and green
ing each ship. Thats why l didn't get into ject clearly lit. but against black. Basirally. in the blue color as pnssilile. \\'hen you're
repeating the JRYYIU ship-motion program this is double-exposed iitto the hlacketl out dealing with hlue paint. its going to eon-
four times in the peel-off. The main idea area of the background. ln color cinema taininate the red and green layers of the
was to get the feeling ofthe personality of tography, one way to do this is to shoot camera liilm iit addition to the blue. This
the pilots. That's where my stop-motion the foreground object against hltie. The eoiitainiiiatiiui increases the ehzutee of
haekground really helped. For instance, matte is created by first making a hlark- matte lines. You can cut that down a lot
there was a scene of the ships approaching and-white positive print with blue light and hy h.i\'iiig a liaeklit hluescreeii. In $'l".~\R
the Death Star anti diving down into the hi-packing this with the camera negative WARS, '1; \|t'tl it i|~;||i_<|iii-,_-|it |,;,k|iq mut-
surface. l had two ships ying off to the and printing this with rnl light ontoa high 5,_n-r-n iliieh \\';|s the liest we possibly
left while a third ship ies off more to- rontrast blacleand-wltite film. The hlue ftjllltl qt-t, The liltiig pylon lirace transmit
ward the right. 'llii:res a different personal- printing light and the red printing light in it-tl tlte i'ili'nli't 1|! iiilnr of the hat-king. So
ity ying that third ship. I tried to do that each case render the hlue background elear. hy elitttiltating the \'ll;|llt'k' of retl and green
at every opportunity. while the positive image of the object is contamination, we helped eliminate the
ll'iz.t blue .tcrt'eri used t'xclusi't't'ly? filled in by the negative, rendering the ob- elianre of getting a "glow" or matte line.
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was to set tip the shots in an assembly-line we had tn make sure that none of the ships ii) Illt i'l'lI'Y'Llll IIn[I\'zunoi[ /i-i'Iiiiii'itiri.t !HI'l'V
situation. Since there were so many dil'l'er- had hlue markings and that none of the pi~ n|i'ii/ out n]'1lii'i'r :i'u_\' In iln I/It Itiiiil ufjoli
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on into the painting and it reached a cer- Tnp: Jud cf/I-its l'lJ"lt!lIIY|l1IlDl'Il!llS.\l|!tYl lulu":
it-illi il lliul iuux (lune on ST.-IR It.-IRS. " /"L"'f_"""" ""flI"* "" ."' """'_5"" ""i"-'
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plinlugrapli of the _/'ir.i! _/'nznn~ of Richard's ''."' 11"" """""!,'_ " """'/""' """"'_""' "l."""'
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to it and have the smarts to know what shot. \\'e made a hlow-up of it about seven ',')"f'
an [mini In mm 4.1.1.1. in. .t_/..t "1
.. do |l1CII\'SvSq\IZ.\l'l. placed that on a piece_of "Eh"-"_, "H H. m,]m.. um ,1|._~n.,l' _".Q"",.,.,-1.
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inasonite. and the artist extended that with and 1".-r t~,,,.~;iilly .-it-Ii.-1! mm\~ 1/it-/min! inh In
people in town who Iiaye been doing this lllllllt Ill! him-im light nmm- to .rIinii~ tlimugli.
kind of work for thirty or forty years uc- a painting. That was the cm! [mini on the
first part of the shot. The two were blend Ilolluml .~tH l'"I""i"l 7'~/-kl lllll-'1 flllfki H"
re/)1 it as an imperfect technique. What we
ed together by lining up relative moves. -\'-H'_""L' If-\ I'll "'11!/1' I" '11-!'~\'_ !l'_1' llvrllll 5!
Iiad on ST.~\R WARS was a bunch of peo- "f1""' """"' "-7 """ """""" ""1" "' " """' "".""
ple who were just jumping into it fresh. al- Richard shot his part of the shot first. sol
had to match mine to look as though it _"'l""""1"_'l" /'I"'!"l"~I'l":d -<-If-"AM-l_\' flu"!
most like re\'oluti0naries. eager to do the H",/1"
3' 1/t.~\ hlllt "'\i'\''I ."d-~m"bi'd l-II-M1,?
no rhip t1||t|I41I|Ht'S
I M11")
" I " dd'I"on --I lo if 1le
eve H I 0" e.l 11 ll was moviii R in the same direction as his.
'h=i= = ~11 was mi-w fr--m -me SI-~1-t~u~-
cm rtrt':'1t pmi.-tr.
,,i...,..,,...,...<i. 1-..-
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other, all the actions would ow. It was t4'|'l|1l\'gyn|!ft|g41t'litn|n]IIti'S11-IRl\Q-|RIm!tIt
ade hy Peter Vlalins. Bill Taylor. I-rank .Il|'1||.t iii llll i'IIu.o'nn i'n'r|!t'!l by I/It "lI!lt'Illtlll! of
\'anI)er\'eer and others. STAR WARS was very difficult to shoot. .~\ laser flash was in-
serted which blended the two cuts togeth- l/tr rt-mnilv l)ykrrnii~.\; t'umi'm llllll l/II i'ngtwiii-
the perfect showcase for blue screen.
II'h\'llirl!Itt'l1Incicrt't'ti/Iroc1'sxln'conic t~'r~ ll Y9" ll"->li ll ll"! 5l\0\ closely. you II\'n]Ili-~s1.i_q.~t,mii-rtmiih,
oliiiitltu in maniniollt prnilitcliott like Ylllhl I-7'-' I-Iblf-' 1" 59 "Ill" llllllllcnl-(L I '35
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really pleased with that one and it seems to ondary mineral. I had a I4-foot track on it
TIIE (.().\l.\l,-|.\'D.\lIi.\TS rvlticli wit;
'II~J.\' and the memory system could repeat
he the shot that Iias gotten the biggest re-
also S/lu! i'n I'i.rlaI'i'.ii'mi? moves~-I Teclinically it was something simi-
The development of mylar film had a 5P0" se - lar to t ie slit-scan process.
lot tt, du with today; iynpr()\>gmg|][ ht-. The laser nvonl flqlil wax also ri iuonllcr.
ll lnokcll loo real In be an anininlum nm'r- The .\'1v,'2-nmlion cluzrs Sl'l[ll(Iltt wax a
t-;|u,_- it (]o,_~;t 5|"-intt_ Thu-e is aqua] t|icv.i|lr]1ri.n'. Ilow rllll Ilia! idea |'t'olr't'.7
sltyinkaqg qt tht; lm w-him it i; tit-t-|t,|,;|_~t| ln_\'tl al2nn.t! .tl'l'1lllII to glow like ticmi
I heard that George was going to do
in making the mattes. They nu long,-r fit
lnhing.
In tflect - it was essentially
liulli. It was- some additional shooting for the Caiitina
the original negative and you can getia hlue
sequence. to shoot some more masks. Sol
.,r 3 Mack tim :\fuun(| thc mattutt ottjc-t_ n't tubing with light, though. They were
actually holding simulated swords made spoke to Phil Tippett and Jon Berg and
Shooting the original negative is one thing; said that maybe they could make a presen-
making mattes on different pieces of film out of front projection material. A light
source near the camera shining onto the tation of some bizarre costumes and l
fm tht; t-.,mpositt- Wm}; is ;mt,t|t,_-t-_ Tttt-re could take it to George. They made up a
3" _t,, ,,m,,_\t lltgngt that gt, .,,t_ 5",.-ttting front projection material hopefully would
Iiounee back brightly. Ilowever, it didn't few great sculptures ahoiit 6 inches high.
that Rut; [;l;t|;t<]t pointqtt out tt, nu; ~35 George loved them antl said. Hey. there's
the [F11] bgl\\'g'\_'|\ the two printer It;-.1t|5_ |l' quite work. So what George Iiad to do was
Pu! K!" overlay of the glow on lop of that another sequence in this film that you guys
that lens isn't perfect. you can get rid of a don't know about that involves a chess set.
traveling mattl. line in the center of the through rotoscoping. That's how they got
the different colors. I think the main thing \\'hy don't you make tip a hunch of alien
screen hut as git objt-t-t tng\'t: tiver to one creatures and we'll put them on the chess
side you can begin to pick it up. .-\riother yo\i're seeing is the overlay. A diffusion
effect was created by shooting the overlay hoard?" So it worked out both ways. l'hil
thing is that you try not to build up con- and Jon got to do some stop-motion and
trast in the niattes. You generate all your through a fog filter.
ll'!tul was llll main /HlIl)li7Yl it-illi Ming with Rick Baker got the job to do additio|i-
mattes off the original negative and make al masks for the Cantina. I also photo-
them all exactly the same size. if possilile. Hu'j'rnn! /1ro]'cct|'mi nmtcriul itt-onl.r alum?
It looked too solid, I think. George l.u- graphed the chess sequence.
l and put them back together so that they|l I nolicezl I'il1'r li1l1'nsIiuw'.r sun in llir
cats wanted soinetlting more like energy.
all lit right into eaclt other. If you keep the crnli'Ix (Ellerixliuw Sr. zcus (1 l!llII'1lIlf.tlI1l
contrast down in the iiiattes. the image something that you wouldn't want to get
close to. The image was so bright it was I)i.nn-_v'.i). Dir! /tr rlu ll of /he 7YIlllll'f)l1iYIl-
doesn't necessarily increase or shrink. All it
takes is the lIlL(lU do it, quality control} flaring the lens out. Perhaps if they had ingx?
more time to work on it they could haye lie did some. Ralph lacQuarri did the
.iiid the right cttuipment. llill Taylor has
heen doing some incredible blue screen gotten the desired effect riglit away. but rest.
ntallc painl-
the entire show was pretty much compro- llax the Iiuin inn 'lt'nu'nl a
work at Universal with .~\l \\'hitlock. Some ing!
i of the stuff in Tllli llIXl)El\'BL'R(i was niised because of the time factor.
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ti-tili_ slightly {|bQ\,'L it and lotikittg <10-n I.ucas' \'ision on .\'u!lii'ng sccnii intpo.rsilzlc anyniure in
W-\RS w'1! s to P ut Georve
into it. Ile dove the camera down into it. l-.
film. It was his movie; he wanted energy
-
ln1lny'.i l'l.tll|1I lf]i'c!.r llcc/tnulug_\'. {Hill lltal
all this mutitm t-Ont;-0]|tl quipf|"|Q|\[ Hm. .w't'nt: lu incliult /n'rjccli'mi. D0 _\-on xcc
anlI s)eed out of most of the shots. lle
ning at slow speed. lle played the action as ' I
I/tr nllimalt eff1'cI.r_/'i'lnt?
though it was the point of \'i|g\\' from the wasn't going to have matte lines or stuff ST.-IR IV.-IRS as
that was as boring to look at as .\I.-\ROON- don't think any film Iias reached that
I
ship diving into the trench hut he in fat-t P"l"l- 5'l:\R WARS ll is in thetoworks. 1
was only starting it just lnirely I)lllSl!ll' the F-ll don't know how thats going be but
ll loukrrl like :'t'er_v other xlml was an
trench.
cff|'c!.r sliul. theres a lot of stuff that we wanted to do
The trench itself was a miiiiatnre almtit in this one which we couldn't get into it. I
fifty feet long and three feet high. At one There were 360 composite effects shots
made from I000 separate elements. some- think STAR \\'.-\RS could have looked
mid of it was a forced perspective painting more documeiitary-like. more as though
which made it look like it went on forever. thing on that order. Most of these 1000 eI-
ements we photographed in five months. you were traveling in a spaceship flying hy
So what we had was an 84-frame cut with- looking at these things. I think it could
in that trench. ,-Inntltrr sltol lU"ll'_t lu Y1IlYl(l. I! looked
like n cluslcr of zvliilc slur: Imrxling into a have looked even sharper and more realis-
Ilow fl!!! was the ranivm acInull_\' nioi-- tic. You sliould've seen people in the cock-
ing? nebula.
That was done with streak photography, pits. more lens ares from the sun. more
We were probably shooting at the rate shots of the ships flying past the twin suns.
of three inches a second. Anyhow. what by increasing the amount of streaked dis-
tance per frame. l originally did it asa test stuff that we just couldn't get into. I'm
I've described was the rcconrl half of the hoping that it might happen on the nex-t
shot. The first half of the shot was apaint- and they liked it and used the tcst! It was-
n't done on the Dykstraflex but on the scc- one
ing by Ralph McQuarrie. When we moved
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paration time. lt took its six nionthsjust to ease, the ship didn't actually explode. lt
[ think it would bc 3 Inigulkc {Q
git the macliiiliery ltigCtllLr.!ll took us pm was ;. m;,t\.| ;q,|n;i.,|._
think of STAR WARS as um ui_
in d=~= =t~c~-
would unjustly (lty the Cff0|'l.5 Of
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nating what the stage was doing and mi
..::.:"t:;:;:":.::1::;::*:.:Y;::.:::::.:"::;:-
the left-hand wingmang the e< ilosiilii of
whm.wc were (hing was hm. [Mus um. the left-haiid win nah and twoisets oflas-
Past special cffccts workers "'5 ht
-!. ffeiheiits ' The K-l'LIiLll
pmdu('m' we Tm the
ultimate space film. ._R
.l1't\l)C.
be t Bl. Ck
ed hen we s.mp.pcdthe
at our best. _\ et iii last three months, |. gin eight
ersthats r f.|
0 r 3 when essentially everytliing was worked sup "L? Sui n G lmk U H
out, very refined, the shots that we did at and my l.)l.S' "_ Tm .rugh.c"li '
that point were maybe only 40% of the fiii- $_".lm.m' Hm lasers cw lmn.u-d m H"
.-\ lot of the opticals were pushed through.
al show, so the reinziiiiing lillZl- don't rt'pre- f".l_0i l""_' u.'.d [ht Sm iv lmnu-ll [mm
There are about ten shots that l feel work . high ml H .'c dd P. W '"h.' "f
really well, and a lot of them have to do sent our best efforts.
with or happen around the Death Star, The t'fji't"I.t tuere ht-|'n_g tllH||' in l'mi h""'m ml, lm""'s ""lu""'d M "_l"" ll" ll"
I
.Vu_v.t. aml I'll lire nrliun ti-as mn.tI!_\' ln'i'ng W c"'lf"~"*'~ ll"'"' 1|" ll"*"'
when the ships are coming in, when you irony!" mm" [M ':'ih f my "in": Nut
first see them over the l)eatli Star. A cou- xliu! in Engluml. ll't'rr lItt'\' Iiritig IlIlIl!' t-un-
currenllv? 5""c "l'5 M -in [hem i" wrk' lm
plc of these are optically perfect from my i
[Ur the MUS mi (fr "W '.rs' and ve
point of view. l'm completely satisfied We were starting into production while
_lmf'l {|'l"_
they were shooting iii 'l'tinisi:i. \\e hatljiist 38] l_""T":S_ "F4 1
u',L-_S
with those. U g';":i;"v M Y? unnlmuaf
lflinl niakes you cringe iulien you see ii? finished asseinliling the stage eqiiipinent _'
'l:"m5_ l_F '31 lP_". ':'is' It
l think some of the shots of tltc pilots and the optical equipment antl they were
lming in Tunisia siiiiiiltaiieously. We were ii _"?ll_' _"mll.ii 's.~?|'|" lg if
'.s_!l
don't work too well, probably about 20%
of them. when they're in the trench.'l'here working on tleli\'trll1_t!_ some front projt:c- lmnui ' "if ,L_fm_''ll I ."L_', l ._ K lm,-
tioii plates to he \lSttl iii liiigland iii .-\pril i:ms'_l'i_]' _ |lr''_'_"_l"_g:'i_l: iqllisyu
are matte pt'0l)lCmS. There are some of the
i976. "r_5 kv in _u I _rf i 2' T.ml'c
opticals that. when l look at them, l would if." ':'_?_( l_" L\;,"_"l"{s Ln
l lm_gl..ml
not want to have kept in. l'(l have to look ll'ns lIll'T(' u emitmmtt't'n!ioii.r pmlilrm? IL?
Tl
There: always a comtnunications proh- l_l:" mi _."l.'_ _ _"'.l_l|":'m 4 I
at the lm to point them out. Overall. I'm ?)Y"|u1{,_;:-K) J: .m".|'' I _sl yim _"
very satisfied with how the optical effects lem in film with a large group of people,
partictilarlv technical people. There eonltl Fm ' H U m_ . VHS Hg W um m'm?m
lllfnl Out. given the difficulties we had to have been inore communit';ition in tenns of I. PM J pnilm "W manc (WU hm "l.m'
surmount.
"Ill," U, S, a Mm, Hm, amumla "m_ hm dwv "UM". in Englmuh Th sure, then print the second eleiiient, which
quires a lot of l(itnl'iUY1t'lfl on the part of m Ills ms. wmlm hc mc.sl"p ml 5 tx-
1"]"bfl'fl. 1" HWY! will 1'4 "l1'l'1|-"II 11/
pl"d"g' P lmi ii l"-W'fi mane .m'"
P'l "f ml i""1.E' 59 "11 Y1"! C41" ~ll' the technicians and the tlireetor to coin-
municate. 'l'hat's a very rare thing to tlo in [hm nil mu lmm the ':xpl"sm' puumg 3
""E'l '1' Why 4095 H"-5 IIIIPPPYI?
the midst of all your protliictioii prtibleins. luillmiuvfl. mu? U ml). or mm nu lye
ll Y0" \l"'0ugl\~-'6 hilll (hill Pl'0l1-
56
Ilutu t!!7.\'1'1\' ;I|'1!l.nt'n.t it-urk with vim? Pm ' mi l""S S Mi the mic" slnlils
lvm ocCasi0nally~we call it blue spill." c.m "Y mm C
and other people call it wrap:ir0\md." lie would see the finished optiezils. l'tl m bliik' umixlmscd
next print the trench lit-hind all three ul
This csscmialh, is whcre ghg object you're present them it, him cvcn. .,.,.k
or Cw.
,,\hL.,, week and tn. "iliqm. hL.m_ L,-d these. cti\'eriirg that with another protec-
phumgmphing again the btuc strut,"
picks up, usually through reection if it's accept certain ones and ht-tl ttirii hack oth- "V" '"l'_" _'|ih "_l"d"'5 !' 5h'l5 "ml he
ers. .\ly role was largely to finish work that "c"ih' "5 uuuws is in lnilm hc Sm and
got a shiny part on its surface, the blue
other people hatl tltlllt as realistically as ll'_ l5'~"5' -'\ "_-1"" '5 "~"l"~"l l"_ll hi"
screen and reects it intu the camera lens. '|d -i"'*'5 l""ll '_ln']"'fl 'mgm_'
So when you look at your daily, you've got possible. It was fairly ciit-and-dried in
terms of what Lnras gave inc as feetlliat'k. ""1" nmny ~q'""""'i Hr." '.lw'
Y\" "l'_l9L'l- Y"\1'\"~ Kl" l/"1" hlul-' 5l"lkt-I1. lle either liketl it or he tlitln'|. .-\ few shots H '35 mly mt K"r"' I d 5373'
correctly exposed, and you've got a patch I fr) "I W Slims VCR me gc'mi'u
had optical reiuleriiigs and there was some hm
r lllllfl Pt-Yhilpi Yiglll in ll\l' millilltt Of the Y"-'""l' I." R. "u's W "i'"l)5"ul
object. lf it's in the middle of the object. etiiiiiiiunicatitiii there, biil what l did was them at eight perf and rethiced thein to
wrcts m, pmhkm we simply hand mm_ largcly u"_mu|_driu|_
scope it nut. lf you don't hand rntoscupe (Inn l('t' lulu the .\/Ill! of Ihirili l'mIt-r.\' rm" .l'rr. 5"? T smnul Mn 3 l;l'i"
it, then that blue reflection is in the middle ship mill I.l.I:. figlilrr t'lI!Il/IlU|f!IlI.\ rmiriug i'~ilT 5' T cw Mr. m gm Hum. m
of the object and prints the backgrountl tluimi [hr IhwlliH]-""m_[ Slur In-ucli um! tlrlnil ilt" Hui-nil" try a1'' immg cp:m.m.'n5
generatioii. then printing
;\:t1\l'ltll)t' llilllf
jun mu. u. hlue scream 'SIry in ("MK /In-H-"2,
Iluw tliil you l'lIfl1fIltlt'I[)fll? The elements of that shot were. working ":.\-Ii;mli. W slit. "mu. hf'}r'/ .
\\'e avnidecl it by moving the object fur> from the liack forwards: l) the stars. which I .6, i-'-IR..'f_5i'i';"_'..l __ '.:I""";".7"'
_'
J1"
Ii Iv 1; inlgh If/_-i m ti/~/_'./'\j' m ml
tlier away from the screen when we eotlltl. were shot on one piece of film. 'llie\' rt-pre-
sentetl the ttintimt of the trench shut. the ' " i"'|' {'7 f"",",'f_"""~/"f |~
ll a qilcstinii of lmw far a\\'=iy from the I iujk it- _m_d< R t rut. U:
screen you can get your object. The further t\tI\L'l1t pulling down the trenrh. The caiii- -l
era has a zooin motion to it as it niu\'es l Hlilu "!:"|l,m_Pi ||'\_ruiS_' Hi
Y1?" C1!" RI-'\ 3'0"? SCYEUI lmm Khf l1l1j<<l
the better tiff you are. like 20 Ur 39 l'<"~l- down the tretieh. atitl the stars rel'lt'ct every H :\.ii|l _f|il,n.|i, Stu tlhn, ti-lihirh. M-..P|1.s
motion the eainera iiiakes except the Ski-mil rt -"fl-ll H r|f Ti p.r.uu.l.i[
"1 l""l RH Ill"in 5?""\' ilmulll Of \rl<l-
ats and cut tln\\i\ on -/.tmiii; 2) and Il) the trencli plus its matte, ""1", it "(LES H i In Ii ii H ' Tl ililifur
tinn. \\'etl bring
"19 i\"">ll"1 of 561""-I1 \\'l' W"? llii $0 \\'l which wasn't shot hhie scret-ii. 'l'hat was m;~. g Pm l fms um. ll)nQiu.s'
shot tltitililepttss. l'ht'\' shot the trench lit i," us,:"i~ |lm'r:.r1S(,-i f'f'\l_..d.
did" hay" 3 lm "f ll"'~' "ill" 5Pllll"K 0"!"
|mi~ PH. ;
the object. .-\nd whcti that llitll\'\ \\'l1ll~ the way they wantetl. then they floodetl xp|1%mm'[ mi it Kn, <.". In J~sJ
it with '\\'l\ilt'ill|ll\l so there were esseiitiiillv Pr? l U. U mmhmm 3" i' kc 1' lmmmg
'"l um ll 9"" 1 ""5 imilnillln" l"harI- very few sliadtiws. and shot it again with ship 5" ilwnifini. ms iiillcwirlcs 0r cf-
"'9'" ml l"' "'57" ll" 11 l\3"ll3"lm11lll
us i|".". mil dull 'ih' I inns "I
m'\'5- The? lid -1 1" "l il"5?- lwlilluil "3
ulway-;|\~.,iL| bluu pi|]_
the. same program to iiizike its niatte. We
Md H, mal'_ H) hold "W Sm Um; 4) qiiaiitity it has ll lo! ol optirals, trztvellintg
;-m,||t||\t
l)artli Vader aiitl his riqht-h.intl M.
\\'i|1t!ltt;|Ii, '"" "'""-1.5 .".d |'l\'.Fr"ic" dials h
Tl" m5l Pl)l'~m'l'5 lllul will l5 'h'~'" 2,.
-[tit-11 is (,1 me ,,,,,_. "hm
up has _Iot ol tliffienlt ll\l|\l;Ii\ll'l' pliotoq_ra-
a_
your screen is lileetling into theUL-Mc edge of pliy. lhat s the ltykstyrat-x c;unera, wlnrli
you, ,,|,j|_ 11.5,, you in. n, ht Thu). .,_.r,. U mu. Pic. Ur m,,,_ -|-imsk. hm
ships Tn, sh", Mm, "(__": 5) H, .i_ is what l woultl say is one of the umque
Cdgc of u. object M ma p,,im_ we had
man (m u. |,.n_|,;m,| Sim. Wt," ,.xP1m|L. M leatiires. the ranier.t platform antl the fat't
(1|n(- |\()\ with amt,-5 which hm] gpill tm that it was ilvllllill systt-in for_the eanicra.
u}; hclml-_ 1; would comc right umund 3 ,_.L.rm;" p,,im_ "L. was Sh," 0 ;"m,|.r
pic,-1. of mm with Mm. |m,.ki"u_ G) ml 7) lhal. and _us|ii_tg an optiral printer. atitl a
1| j] of |||,_- 1-|m1_ '[h,_-1-,3 -35 no (|,;[i;_ ll"
l"l".t! 1\"~Y)'"
the lasers that llaii Solo sliuot-s. 'l'ht-re are ll_' lf'k'\l "l'l"'1"'ll
tion point there, so the animators had to _h"ll- lihi """"Y 'lf{'5 ll
"""_l'lm'i|k
rotoscope the edge of the lielniet. two series of lasers. One set went iii front 1'
of the lt'ft-hand wingnixin, and one set went "_!l i"'|'"""'"_'"l- ill" ll l'"" Y "'5 Ill "l"
Ilow lung tlitl il lake In ctniiplrlr 1/It _'4"'~'- Y"" "5 l'"'!4l'"|'"4 \\'l1l|'5 l'('~" tl""'-
lieliiiitl the ship; R) the final eleiiient is the
oplfeal rfferls?
lt took roughly twetity-two months to
finisli them. And that includes all the pre-
explosion of the left-hand winginaii.wliich
is inattt-tl on top of the Ship itself. in this
" l"~ l-L '5 u "ll"1"'~' -l* lm-
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that it wmtld he pmccsststl and tm't:tIliil- him his rlttthvss tvcrc nn ;t win" Immu that
ctl. Iiurly on itt the tnztkintg uII thv Iihn nu rnllztpsctl tlll itttpttct.
unv. I um ~ "It.tt I) nrttI \'".tt Irr\"
' I An) no.1 \\-l'
hntnttn, rnlml ur cwn why Itv \\-tts in the:
\.t s .t' II 41.4- mu I It I tr -It/ It'll Lu"tn x _t,,t-
lltvlmrl?
1 "-~t' \'nu willt
musk. I thtntght I wnttltl Ill r;tIlt'd in tn I IIL\('l' rrnlly h.ttI nntrh itt tltr \\'.ty ul-
Iuup the 1II;lIt>t,'\lL', Intl |n'rIt;t|ts for lA'\>lI~ tIirt't"tiun. In ;tIl tny pztrts I rztn stty lllill, cs
nttty rvttsmts I \\';tsn't. as at thttl sntgr ttu ct-pt IIIOSU Iur tlirvrtur 'lt'r1'm't' I"'isIt1'r. Lu-
nnr rcztlizvtl thv Iilttt wuttld tttrtt out In In nts tnltl nu" In Inc tnyst-ll utt(t I was in tltv
. tht: Iiiggvst _t;russt:r u\-ur. lt>ssiIiIy thuy suit, sit I Ill('l|I\l' :ts villztitnnts .ts I pussiltly
ctntIdn't ittstiI\' lln: t'\]n:t\s't' t>Ist'tnIInt1Inr nnthl Th;tt's \\-lt\' I think I"t;tttIu'|tstvitt
mv tttmtcs .trt~ .tpprn.nItt'<I \\tuttuI\. I\tr\-
'I'It.1t RnlIit!,\' Slmtv inlt'r\'it~\\- \\';ts ;t lut Imdy Ittts this K.trluI'I' Iixzttiun ttII thc I!H|I\-
c of ttnttsvttsv. First. Lurtts is rt-|ttirtt'<I as .stcr's Itttn|>1'rint; t;n'tttI<'tt1'ss. Intt th;tt's tu-
satyittg that In: knc\\' tn) \'nirc \\'uttltIn't ltc lttlly \\-rotng. 'I'ltt~ ;t\ttIicnt'n' sltttttltl Irv rc-
@ ttscd. $u"t>tttI, that I only ;tt't fur Inn. I Iit'\'m'd when thu Iilm is nvcr tlt;tt lltry
dtin't. I'tn \'t'rys1'rin>tts;tlmttt it.TItird, lIl;tl \\'un't tn<'t't Itim itt ct tI.trk :tII<'y\\'.ty. IIt'
,, . I'tn very rich zts I n\\'n ;t t*lt;titt t>II(;\'|||I\;tI- slmultl In' as nztsty zts pussililt-. I wurkt-tI
IIIIII III: IIIII II _IIcc UIIIII
LIICII5 tttt\s!! I'm not rich. I n\\'|l unr qytn ztnd ;tn tm Iht: Ilttrth \';t<Itr \\':tlk. I wztntcd pt'u|ih:
IJC pl'l)CC$SC(I ;\l\(I mlaltcized. IIIIIBI intt'rt'st in ;tn cxcrrisv t'uttsttIt;tttt'y itt II;tr- to rtttt lwhind tnv Inf i~I'I't-rt.
Ruing stone intcnriew was 3 kn of mds. u Ittrgcl tIc|_tnrttttI'ttt Stun in I.tttttIun. II'/ml ttlmttl I/rt irqtrrl?
nonscnsc Lncas is rcponcd as Saving and thttt ts tt. I m sttrv th.tt starry \\';ts <'tr- I \'t' It1"t'n ttskctl tn do IIIC nvxt l\\'t>. l-t>r-
lhm he kncw voice wuldnal be cttI;ttt'd In-c;ttt4st' I_s\\';t|:]n-II my rztr ttt tttll tttttzttrly Iur tttr. l):tr|It \.ttIt-r has In-rf_tttt\'
. stttgc Inr ;t Irtrnd s Rulls I{ttyrt- ;ttttI \\'l\u thc must ntt'tnnr:tItlt* rh1tt.tt't|:r tn tltc ltlttt.
I lllollghl I \\()l|I(I
llSL'(I. IN? C2lIIl'(I Ill tlid I htttnp intu thc Iirst dzty I dr<n't- it IIt"s the cult I'it;\trt'. I uvl tltv tnnst cxlt;t-
I0 loop IIIE (IIlI0g\|t.II IJIII (Il'<"\lI'- (IIITY KIIIII KHHI IIIl' R"/I1'".L' ttrdittttry ttntuunt n|' I';tn tnttil. I uut r.tthvr
sluttt itttcr\'ivwt'r what must It;t\-c jtttttpctl tntIt(f|l((I wltrtt I \\~;tstt'l ittvitrnl ull tht"
I Invt playing tnnnstcrs, says Dttvc I"\tttt'lttsintts. pnltlirity tuttr itt tltc $t;ttt's .ttnI t|_tt-y tIt't"ss~
Pruwsc, \\'Itn was itt\crvit:\\*cd in Vol '3 Nu ~I III III. IIIIIIII IIIIIIII III-III IIIIII"II"II' '~"I I"~'"IIl' III 4'3 II"~' "IIIII?'I\'I5- II II"'' "J"
ahuut Itis rnlc ;ts the tnmtstcr in |I:ttntnvr's IIIIIII I IIIIIIIII H II" IIIIII II"~'' I'I"lI'I I1" "III" I'"III' II'"' III'~'
FR.\NK|.;\tg'|"|.;|N AND nu; _QxS'|*|;R It was \-t'\fY IIII' IIIII IIII\l$It's \\'t'rt' l|\lIII' Iilnt. .\Iy tnthlirity tttrcnt tltinks it \\'1>nhI I)l'
FROM III'lI.I.. Irn\\'st: also pI;t\'t:1I the tnutt- IIII IIIIIIIIIII IIIIIII II k';llI.;I" IIIII III IIIIIIII III -I -I""I II"II II I "~'"I I" III" $IIII"5 'IIY5'*'III
Sm. in ||;"nmcr-S earlier HQRROR 0|: tn]! HI \\'IIII'II I \\'"Y\' I""I' I1\l'I'I$ "I "1""-I5 ttndvr the It;\l\llt'r Durtlt \':tdcr Ittvttdvs
I-'R.~\.\'Rl~lNSTl-LIN. IIt>rn in ttmmt in 1934, '~"' I"""" I'" f I""II" ='!.' '" =\'""i-'1\~" \~I1i'"h I Ihiltk is :- win t>I=m-
pmwsc ,_.m,m.l| ll: ml. of Brmsh ||L.u._ I"I"llI<$. OIII HI \\'IIlI'I1 \\'-I5 I'~II II III III" I've In't.tt in thc Intsittuss Iur III yours ttt>\\-
wcigm L-dug Chumpilm n, "Wu, years vntl. .-\t'Itrs\ tny Itt';tII tttrttrd ttnntnd ttt tltu mm. hi. am. ".'_.m}. mm..' ml mm. lim
running l962_1964_ and rirul umk_R_ut_ tnztsk \_\-nltuut ll mm'tntz. so they tntddtltl tt tn-g!,,n!|\g in I-lit-k. I \\-rtttltl hv zt Imtl Ito! lu
L The "omrimy uf K. Tigmm-mm mic tntl with ltntnt rttI>I>_v:r. Itt tltt"s\\'nrtlItt1Itt m|5!|i,||-,_ U u_ | um m J |,;| m-,;,u;mm!
led to work in tho Iilm Intsincss, wltcrc his I IIIIIIIII IIIIIII II" II IIrI.IIII III II IIIIIII III I IIIIII I5""" III"!II -1- II II III -"" "W
muscled 6 fttnt 7 inch frame was used fur :1 II IIIIIIIA IIIII IICIIIIIII IIII II IIIIIIIIIII' IIIIIIIIIII II"'~
variv:IY III Itcttvies. Prnwsc IBIS wurkctl with IIIII III? IIIIIIII IIIII IIIJIIIIII III I.I IIIIIIIIIIIIII' I II""II"' III/""I""'I I" II II"-I "/I ]I"'II"'.\'
',-/,,,_\-_ )3, "H"; [,'),,- ,[,,|',,q 1/,,-m,
director Stanley Ixubrtck.
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and ]llSl cntnpIt:t-
~ - ruuldtt t st-1' tvn Ivrt nt Irunt nl ntu. 1
ed scenes for direcwr Russ \|cyL_r in u mm ll./rt yuu I-I! tn ttturl lllllllll I/tt' \:t'nrr/-
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abm |],_. |;,ilish ],k_wrk gn,up' the svx _/IA II- so tttttt"It_'ttttt.'rt'_.st tn ttcttt ;t_n< tnr. :t_i\:;tys
p;5m|_ II"-I I4II0\\' IIII I"~I'I1II L'III'I'I 5I'<'T\I-\'. scu lhv ltltns I ttt tttvt)l\'t'd tn. I Inn hI=\R
hut thu |)I"(II)I('III nuts they ltrnkc. Yutt ltttd \\';\RS. It's Izrml Iilytttt all nwr ;t_t;;tin. I.tt-
,/lm. I/I-,1 ya K H, Pa "J-nun" I,-mI_ tu In: cztrclttl nut tovhit thc twn swurtls |u- (~35 m;It~ ;| film | I-an mgr my kig A, -j|h_
"1-H s'I~__|R HRS? gt-tltt-r ztnd clttsh. \\v: I'UIlUZITSllI fur thrvv mtt trytnt; tu :trr:tn_\;t- st~p:tr;tt<' sltmvtttgs us
Gcmge Lums gm in much Wm my ttnd L'\'t.I] ltcI't>rt' thc ItI_tnh;ttI sl:trtt_d
\\1'vI>;.s_ nirist til my ltlnts arc |lInttsh| X-r;tt_|.'d.
gum jug twfnn, Chrisumls 1975 and I mm sltuuttttg .-\lv:<" tttnl I \\lt'.rt- Iirtrlvd zthtntt tt \\tth Int; strc1'tt ztntl I)<tII>y suttml tltc Itlnt
It
him uftcr tltc lt<tIid;t\'. Ile told mu ;t hit III IIIII "IIIIIIIIII-IIIIIIII.IIII' IIIIII I IIIII IIIIIIIIIYIII IIIII IIIII'IIIIIIIIIIi' IIIIII IIIIIIII II IIIIIIII IIIIII.I' TIIC
abuul u. Sm. ml "M-[,_.n.d ml. .m"_.r U. Ihv srvstttt Itu:t\tsm' It duvstt t luuk an ;tII Itlw Inst titnv was ztl tltv :\fl\llLllI\ Itlrn I-cstival
ch E\\);1Lt-
I . .1
PII H Ur lhc IJ'TIII
.t Yullt-r I i;\n_|
asked him ll, lm-[cK_"u_ h,m,n H, N,
clr.tr:tctcrs. apart from the fact that they
II was t"Itorcngr;t|tIicd. I kttm"kt'd 4\l"t.
tng .t\ um st.tgt'. In tltt' sustw \\'Itvr1' I slrtkc
\vhv:n' it was only 3:'itnm ttttd Hut suttnd,
and I ft-II ;|IC('|], I
wen: in custutnc Irtnn Itt:.1d to Itml, and . _.
hr: said that um \\'Zl 1lI0\';|I)Il' tcdtly-lic;tr '
type and the other \\;ts thv \'iII:tin. Itt my "I
experience 1-wrytittc n'tm~mI1cr.s the villztin.
and Darth \':|th:r s<ntmIt:d nu to ;t 'I'. Lucas
rcnlizvtl I could lmld my mm with pc'up|t'
like .~\le< Gttinnvss. so I didn't lt:t\*:- to do
any tests.
Ihtvx t'1 Izuthrr yutt lhul _\'uttr t'ut'n-
want '1 ttstvl in IIt1'j't'rtaI_/'t'Int?
Yes, it dues. I \\-us cutttv:ntt'1I that _Iamcs
Ilarl ]nnus' voivv was used. In:r:tttst' I was
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I playing thv: villztin. :\llhuugh I was ztwart
that my \\t-st Country urn-tttul \'nit"r:
\\'uuItIn't I21: ttsud zts it is, (it-orgc tnltl mu
INTERVIEW tn
MIKE (IIIILDS S: AL.-\l\' JONES
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5TE\/E|\l SPIELBERG Interviewed by Robert Villard
This w.1s lhe year nf l'.'\R \\'.\RS 11- Mn-,-,mm 1,, 1|"; |m.1-mlmu-m P,,[i,-y 111;1||y :1 l)is11ey 1r11e-life ;11l\'e|1111r1' 1111 the
\\';1s11'1 11'. (Ie1'l;1i11ly I977 will he remem- nf 1l1e film .\s
1es1i1111n1\' 111 1l1e 1111-
111111. I-\l1Yl\1fl'1|l"!l
her1:1l fur (leurge l.111;1s' f:1s1-p111"e1l f:1111:1sy preee1le111e1l see11ri1y 111e;1s11res-i1np1>se1l 11p- .\fler lhe ST.-\R :1-\RS pl1e_11111n1'v11111.
spe1'l.11"11l;1r, I111! llie l11111;~:11\':1i1e1l release 11f nu (}|_()]-; |-;f\(f()["\"[']-'_R' gpi-||,\-m -;,_<_ lhere was 11 1e11_1le11ey lur 11111111 |o11r11.1l1s1s
5l"' Sl'l"ll"'r.\Z'5 513 |"l"l"" PH) "l*'l"'l' himself, 1le11ie1l e111r:11\e1' 111 1l1e sl111111i1I1: 111- I11 IR Cl<05l'1 l-XCQUN H"-R5 l" "5 5l"~'
f4""-Y l"'*'\ll"ll""" (ll-(Ali l'lNC()\'<\" r;11iu11 1m one 1:1-1'z1sin11 when he f.|ile1l 11> [*"'' l_'r"llK"'s$l'r' ml l"-*5 l'_"'l-ii
TER5 (H: Tl'_- Illlllkl) Klxu "WY l"5Pl' |mul11ee 1l1e req11ire1l Seeuriiy (lle;1r.1m'e ""'- l_'l"ll'_"r!4 "'.llh"5""l' CLOSL ]'\-
11111 only 1111- same lype of pup11I;1r phe11- |$;|11,;q (>l()liv|_l'<R5 fl!" jll ill" k'">\l_|"l -I Yfi" l""
111111-111111 11>" $lZ\R \\'.'\R$ \'11i0yv1l. il may '/'im1- 111111 .\w=1-1:111-1-I1 hmh .||lpr1.|1'l\l'1l !'"'\' 5l~\R -'\R-* '-'5 ''""l~ " '*"
1111- pr1|\'1 .1 s1'ie111ifi1' 1~1m1-
111.111-$1 i11 1111- 1111- Q11151-1 1-'.x(:11ux'1'1-;11s 111'1i11- fur 111. .1115 >'l"\\'" "HI" ll? \\1'Y1_= ll '15 "''r
munily 111explore;1111lres11l\'e 1l1e11ges-1>l1l i|;I|_- H,-r
;,,ri,_-5 ,,n 11"; [;[m_ _"| 1",), really :1 rare. ()f rourse. (.1-urge [l.u1':1s|
1|11es1i1u1 of Ul"()sigl11i11_1;s1l1rnugl1u11l the |,|-1-|ik,i,," nugim. Tn. mun. mm." ;1111l l .1re fr11'111ls .1111l we were lmlll 11w;1re
wurl1l. 11-I11-11 [hey s1ip11l;11e1l :1 111-1-1| fur 11111-.1111-11 llI:|l one 11f1>11r lwn films l1;11l 11>r11111e11111
The lung, l;1lmri1ms, ;1111lexpe|\si\'1l1irll\ Iuehi111l~1lIe-sce|1es 111111 _~;p1~1'i.1l e1'fe1'1s slills lirsl. .\1 one pninl. we were e1>111i111;1111l in
of Spin-ll>erq's film has l1ee11 1-x1e11si\'1'ly
e;'.f"!\l'
1|,i||\|;|r;11e 1l1epmp11se1l.11-1i1'l1-s. Spring (ieurge was going 111 p11ll lurk
.1111l
1:l1r<111i1"le1l i11 1he press. S'l'.\R W.-\RS Iri- ll1i|11;11ely, press pr1~\'i1~\\-s uf 1l11- fi11ish- f1>r(Ihris1111;1s. .-\111l then we |111s|1edhuek 111
et
|""P|\-l"llY '~'|"l'1'.1l'~'<l $llmiI1gly from 1111 e1l film were s1;11_;e1l in f\'11\'e|nl>er in lmlh (Il1ris1m:1s. (Ze1ar_1ge 1'.11111' 11111 in Spring. S11,
where 'll\u\l1.[l\ l'111 sure l.\11';1s wm1l1l 1lis- 1,1111 .\11g1'les 11111l New York, full11we1l by really. lmlh films wen |11;11le i111lepe111l1-111
ex1r.1\';1g;1111 press 1"1>11|'ere111"1-s \\l\l('lI in- nf 11111 .111111h1'r .1111l 1l1e nnly 1'1>111p11ri11g
eee elu1le1l_ as p;1r1i1'ip;1111s, 11111 nnly \\-ri1er/1li- 1|1_11 11-1-111 1111 (l\lri|11_1 pr111|1|([i1;|\ 11-;|5
/"/'~' -\'"|I/l "H" I'"l "" II _'/"11/'"l' /'l'l""/"' r1-emr $11-\e11 Spiellnerq, .\li'
l>111 pn11l1|1'ers (I1-urge .1111l one ;111111l1er
l 1'u111p|:1i11i1\g 111
,l""|"I:I"Ih"'I{":: 1"h11el 11|11l_|11li;1 ll1illip_ (flll-LS'l'lN(i.'l'.\l ;1l>m11 wl1.11 .1 lI1'I1'/1 i1 is 1nsl1u111 special ef-
I/h mnuil WILL hf hm mIh'm." lm l)Rl\'l;R). slurs .\le|1n1l;1 111111111 1l$()lT\l) 11-eis .11\1l huw we're never gnilig 11> 1l1> 11
mu, mm [M_\-M, A-/,1-II,",u|,m,;,-"m,,.,. ,\ l-'()k (ll.()l{\'). Terri Curr (()ll_ (JUDY ;1111l .11;.1111f '
1'n11l1r [I1-u;_'Im Iv11mh11ll n'1uI!1 in 11 m-11 I|1;,_'I1 \'Ol.\'( I-R.-\XKl~l.\'Sl'l-Ll\')..1n1lfour-ye.1r (I1>1nme111i|1g fnrlher 1111 (Il.()Sl'I l'l.\'-
mr1/-.-11'11lr//.1"I1. (Zuffey, (I1)l'\"l'l-.RS'
1>l1l el1.1r1ner C1111 1*11111p11ser ]11h11 rel;11in|1sl1ip \\'llll ST.-\R
hn-\'1e1\'
()||\'iu1|sly, 1l11' (I].()Sl'. lz.\'(I()l'.\"l'l,Rb resp1>111~_s |'r1|m (he ;1111|i1-111-1.-, 1|11|1- 20 (~11-11
111111p.111y was .1s 11111-res1e1l i|1 11:11r1i111; 1111' 1'1m1p.1re1l i1 11> the 1111>\'ie. I1 1li1l|1'1 111"<'11r
p1111' lh.11 l.111vr 1"11111e111i111 In he e111l1\|si- press llpull 1l1e film's r1-le.1se .1 i1 \\;1s in 111 1l11~ ulllers. S11 l'111 e111'n11ru1;e1l 1h111
;1s1i1".1ll1' e111hr.11'11| lay the 111e1li.| .1s .1 511* s1u11ew;1|li11g" lhe press 1l111'i111; 1hr lil111's (Il.()Sl-. l*..\'(I()l'.\"l'l-.RS is :1 1'n111p|elely or-
11111l (I11ni111; fur 1l1e N1 .\I1-ss.1111'/l".1111'rl-1in- 1li|'fi1'11l1 11es1.|lin|l periml. .\111' l1.1111;11\'1r" igi1\.|l IlIn\'i1' will s1.11\1l 1111 ils 1>1\~11 for
1l1.11
1111'"! l'llH1~(lll()5l'- l--\C()l'N'l'l'-R5 0|" 1\e1;;11i\'e ;111i1111les \\'1111l1l musl ||rnp1-rly he ye.1rs. _|11li.1 [ll1illips| has .1lw.1ys referred
lllli llllkl) Kl-U. 1'" lllv Hlhvr ll-mil. .1ime1l .11 1l1e fil|l\YH1II1'|V\ ;1111l 11111 1111 film 111 S'l',\R \\'.\RS .1s 1h1- Ines! 1r.1iler (Il.()$l-L
l1.11| 111 \'irl11:1lly keep 1|1e press .1wz1' with :1 ilself \\'l1i1'l1 seems eerr.1i11 In he 11 hlu1k- li,\'(I()l7N'l'l-.R.\' pussihly l1;1\'e."
e1111l1l
1111111 fur 11111rc 1h.111 l\\'0"_l'1ll'. 11ml -HI :1f lmsler 1>l' in1"re1lil1le ])r11|Inrli1l1ls', .1111! 1le- [.111-.1s n-111-111111 (IL()Sl EN(Z()UZ\I-
111
ter111.11h ul 1_l1.11 "s1le111'e 1s 1l11"_111;1rke1lly
h1|sl1l1' re.11'111u1 111 m;111' |1>nr11:ll1>'l5 In ilk
sen-1'1llysn. 'l'l-.RS.' lle re.1lly flipped 11111. l \\';1sl111ppy
1.\ I111 nf press people were 1lis1r1-sse1l by lnr 1l1:11." .\'piell>er_1; lu';1111e1l.
flllll I\<\\\' Ill-ll ll ll-Ii '>|ll'm'1l- lhe 'I'1'm1- seuup re\iew wl\i1l1 .1ppe;1re1l in Spiellierq \\'.1s prep.1ri11g _|.-\\\'S .11\1l e1li1-
N1-wsp.1p1~r ;1111l |n.11;.1/.i11e\\'ri1ers ;1r1m|11l 1he \11\'e111l1er 71h issue, luefnrr 1l1e press i111; Sl'G.-\Rl..-\.\'lJ l'..\l'Rl-.55 when he
1l1e 1'111111lr1' f11u1gl11 frnillessly 1l1m11Qlu>\1l preview. lr111|111"er _]11li;1 Phillips .11l:1111.1n1ly wmle 1l1e firs! .15 p:11_ges 11f his scrip! for
fil111i111; ;1111l 1l1e ex1ensi\'v pusl-prn1l\11"1i1|11 1|e11ie1l ;111y e1|ll11xim1 wi1l1 'I'1'm1'.;1|11l.\'piel (Il.()Sli F..'\'C()['.\"l'l~lRS. "ll spranig from
of (Il.()Sl'. l~'..\'C()l.N'l'liRS 11> exlrzlrl any hen; expl.1i11e1l 1h;11 l"r;111k Rieh s11111el1uw I11-1111; e11riu11s .1h1|111 1l1e s1.1rs:1111lsp;11"e lr;1-
lhimg l1e\'m11l llie1'11111p1111y-iss11e1lp11|1|i("i1y 14111 wi111l nf the lop-seere1 'l'ex.1s s11e.1l-4 pre- \'el .1111l \1'.1111i1111 111
1,11-1 uff
1l1e pl;111e1 .1|11l
r1-le.1s1-s. .\'11u11e1\'.1s;1llm\'e1lu11 1l1e sel. .\'11 view .1111l flew
1l1er1', kihl111u.i111; .111 11|1s11s~ h:1\'i111; .151-111i~1111l1;1ppy1'l1il1ll11|1>1l11111l ln1>k-
i1\1enie\\-s were permillenl wilh eilher 1":1s1 pe1"1i111; g1-111lem;1n 0111 of his pre-;1rr;111ge1l ing fur es1'11pe," was his 1'xpl:111111i1m. l
11r crew me111hers wlm, in f:1s"1, si1;11e1l \\-ri1- lirkel by inf11rmi11_1; him 1l1e sneak was 11e- lu\'1- sei1'11ce fl(llu|1 I1111 l 111-\'er in1en1le1l
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"Of u|| "W k-"5 of [|m5a(| nf U]-(_) paper. I Iielieve the gtweriitiieiit is t'o\'ering what I was going to do with the extrater-
.pnn' mu. Hf "Wm an. hos-|._ ln '.::;t(iietlt_iii_g tip. Ilee';iiis_e- of this Freetlpiii (if restritil. 5_o I fiiitilly took a deep Iireath and
. oiiiiatioii .\t t. I ro_|ttt Illiitliotik \\ as ilt- ditl what is there.
my hunni I walnul "Ur I.nc0"cr I t"Ia.ssifietI. I don't know how many prireless IIe went tliroitgli alitiitt IO designs he-
l1l|N'31u'fl|l- . . . (II.\ tlonitiieiits that really either t'(tItfl|lI\ fore arriving at the final yersiun. They
'5'\i'~'n SI"'~'|bcrg or ilisprtwe lI-Us lia\'eti't lit-en afl'et"tetl liy sort of e\'ol\*ed. I.ike from preta-human tti
the I-ieetlotii of Inforiiiatioii .\t't. Iimmy Iiiiinannid -went the whole traiisitioii. .~\l-
this movie to Iie a \ti'(1't'r. I wanted this (Zarter. whether or not you know this. hatl ways short. though. One thing that I was
film tospeaka kiiidof spt-t'iil;iti\'e reality." Invi Ill-'() expt-rietit'i-s four or five years intending in that seqitetiee was to show
Spielberg aektiowletlgetl that \\'lllIt)\lI ago. (hie of his eamptiigii promises was that that there was a very strong and workahle P
the incretlilile stireess of his previoiis film. he was going to get to the liottom of the mixing of the raees from wherever they
_].\\\'S. (Il.()Sl-l l"..\'(I()l'N'l'l',RS would still lI"() tlilemiiia in this rouiitry. antl I'm still t'a|ne from."
waiting for him to pay off on that one!" \'ilmos Zsiginnntl (l)liI.l\'IiR.-\NCll.
lie a treatment gathering dust in his files. I I*lXlRliSS)
wtiiiltl have hail to wait iiiitil I hail a smash, Special effects wi/.ard lloiiglas 'l'rumlitill ()I<I5I-'.SSl()N. SU(I.~\Rl..-\I\'I) H
Yer) ltearly went iiiiasked for his etiormntis receivetl eretlit as tlireetor ofpliotograpliy.
heeaiise I think llollywtiotl was very rltiseil
"ff H, mi, kimt Hf J pi.-um-_ |,.-,.-;m5,_- -1; eoiitriliiititins whieh pretloiniitate the tla/./.- litit five other top eiiieinatograpliers also -
ling last forty niiniiies of (Il.()SI-'. I"..\'- had their names appended to the protItie- '
enee fiction tIoesii't inake any money.
(IUI'.\"I'I".I{S. ".\lioiit a year liefure Doug tion eredits. . .herause l kept shouting
I 'l'lit-re have only lieeti really four or five
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lireaktlimiigli fihiis. and dozens. lI1.l\Ilt' ralne onto the film," Spiell>ll'\l recalled. ilie iiiovie!" Spielherg explained. "I kept
"the seript was lieitig written antl I was sit- adding stt'ttt'. Ilill |l"raker| wasn't avail-
hiintlretls. that didn't Iireak through, I aIileaiitI_]tihii.\lotizowas,'l'hen_]nIin.tou.
tliiiik I-'()RBII)l)I-LN ll..\.\I~'.'I'. l)I-.S'I'IN.\- ling down with a sketch artist nametl
'|'|()y y|()()y_ 3t)t|1_ $'|j\R \\'.\R mt George _]eiiseii trying to put down these said he wasn't twailahle. antl |I.asz|ii| Ru-
\\"\R (ii:
'||||', \\'()R1_1)5 m_,.tt- |]'|()|]l-y amt iinpossil>lt- ideas on paper iii color and the vars was. Kt)\';\l'S tlitl a hit of stuff in the
next iirtililem was, how _tlo I put this on crazy httttse. .'\l\tl _|ohii did a few piek-tip
most of the oiliers did not. .\Iy feeling was shots tif (.ary. :\I\lI they all work alike! It s
Hi -.,1.| m;,t;.- ;| |,i.-mm likv this 5mm-.
1 film? I really know very little .|I)tI\lI special
day. hm | "l....|...| _]_\'5 or n.i\;"g tit. effects. I know a lot more now than I did strange they all have a similar style. which
_]_\' U _,i|,,v 5,,mC.,m- H, my ~||.n. mkr three or four years ago! lint then I really is why I hired tlient. I'i.\'l't:|iI ftir Fraker.
only knew the .-\ll(Is of spet'i.il efltrts_.i_tiil who I iliitik was miteli different. Ile has a
SIN million. go liiake a ino\'ie!' harder key light. . .it's much tiitire Fairn-
n as U, in. ...",_|| ;m.U1.m,_.m .,fm,u.| I didn't know that miieli alitntt realizing
them. I went to Ilnug reliirtantly lIt"(-tlI>C pean. They all ltioketl at tlte film antl they
U]-() ;,mi,.,rg- |)r_ 1|-m.k_ 5pkt||,,_.|.g Ex, liatl to mateh. Ihey looked at the scenes
p|;|im..|_ --UL ttynck mu. day -as Siuing I lelt Doug wniiltlnt watit to do this. lle
has heen tlireetitig aiitI he liatl other pro- eotnittg after and heftire. heftire they shot
aroitiitl antl iiieketl tip the iiewspaper and
reatl alioiit a inovie eompatiy iti Ilollywoutl ,l'~l"5-n i"lYll'"\i!._ so tl\'~Y '5""l1l m\5l' ll": mm
Sim: his ml (11105-1.; |.;_\~C()L-_\--l-HRS ()1:
.
Iiritmliiill, of eoiirse. was 'lllILl'L'Slltl. with the liglitiiig.
'|"|||-1 |"|||R|) K]_\'|)_ and |- -nm_- "W J One of my very strong feeIings_ aliotit '_Ilioiigh SpieIherg's titie en<"ouiiter"
kind of Y-,,,,I,V\. h."..'.!
'1-ha P|"_|_. was _\\_'orking on (II.()Sl'l I-..'C()L'.\"Il-.I{." saitl while on ltieatioii proved to he a tretnen-
-.,;m..| in his |,.,.,k_ 1/,,- 1']-'1) ]<__\-,,.~r,',-H.-,~_ Iriimhull. was that hieveii was really set tlous let-tlowii when II turned out to he an
'fi\;||'5 |,(,- ~,_- fir mu
|,\- "m|1" on hreaking some new grtiiintl and trying Iiclio satellite. he did have one story to tell
|).,c gvil-1|,-rg |,;m,_-if |,c|].-\-.- T ;m- to ptit onto filtii images or illitsions that I ahoiit something extraordiiiary that he
felt were of interest to me. I li.itl an op|iur- vlirln I see. \\'hile working in_lt-fferson. Tex-
_ heing nioiiittiretl liy extrtiterrestritilsll |tn as, lie iiiikiiowingly (ItL'(l(t(I iiitti ti reputed-
not |iersoii.illy ruin-itit-ed until I h;|\~t- a tunity to work on ST.-\R \\".\R.\' and rej_eet-
UI<'() experience myself. l'ni eoiwitieetl etl that Iieeause it was, in my UIIIIHIIIII. ly haunted hotel!
that stiinetltiiig's going on that's liafing more of the same from \\'l\t'l't"I was rtitniiig I kept seeing things out of the CHYIICI
PL.,l,|.. 1|" ,.,. Ii. -.,r|.|_ _\|| | mink '5 frotii. I had spent .i lot of time shooting of my eye! liveryotie else felt the saine
5I1'5lllI5 1"l Pl-""'I5 -ml ml-" ml I "5 '1\Y~ 5" "1 I'1\"l'<'~"l '""l*11,l!51"1l Kt" "l" "I
worth millions of seieiitifit" tlollars to trv to there in almut leii iiiinutesl lla\'e you ever
fintl out what the hell's going tin. lint -I've |\l_l\l'Y lilttell with it. I think that (Il.():$l".
I-..\(I()ll\ll'.R.A was a iitiique opporttitiity stotitl there atitl you think you_see some-
.ilw.iys Iieen of that pliilosopliy that I'- tti do sometliing new. antl it alsn_fttlt'<l thing. aiitl you turn aiitl theres nothing
Qm mh;.(.Um._(m_m.hufun. | ml sign
with a lot of projects I was working on there. \\elI. that was happening every three
or four seetmtls and it was freaking me
ling. sort of acetylene hright lights. uti I-raiieois lriifftiiit. the famous I'reiieh
some sort of a solid striieture. antl they new wa\'e" tlireetor. surprisingly tirreptetl
ean't see I)ll'I\\lt' the lights are so hright." a role (written especially for him Iiy Spiel-
(Ititicerttiiig the tlaz/.liiig" red light tIis- berg) as a scientist tletliratetl to get tn the
reriialile on the hark of the alieti ship. liottoiii of the UFO mystery in (Il.()SI-L
Spielberg laitglietl. "That was the little retl l.\'(I()I'N'I'I-IRS. "I was itttimidatetl hy
flag in the Iiaek of a triiek when the two- him. quite frankly." Spielherg reealletl.
Iiy-fours hang otit too far. That was iust IIere's l"raiit'ois Trtiffaut rtiniiing arotiiitl
part of freaking out one day antl saying, \\'yoinin_g. antl I wanted to talk ahout all of
Give that siieker a Inf! lt'_gltI!"' his old films and he wanted to talk ahtiul
I .l
.-\t one point. Spiellierg was riiniored to the part! IIe was pretty tniteli the one who
have aliaiitloiied his footage of the .-\liens. drew from me the eourage iti turn amiintl
That was very early that I thought aliutit and tlireet him.
tnayhe not sliowiiig ;itiytliing." he statetl. "()ne of the iitterestittg things he did the
I liwed 1101)]. hut Iwanted to we stime- first day l t'oiiltlti't tpiite get my point
thing at that point. I wanted Stanley to I aeross to Iiiin iii English, nor through his
wanted something to mu!t'rt'tili:t'. .-\nd I French translator, antl so he asked tiie to
eoiildti't twoitl. after this experieiiee.show- stantl right next to the lens liehintl the
ing soniethitig. It was a dilemma for a eaitiera antl he would wateli my face. and I
couple of months. I really didn't knuw would play this and he would imitate every
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Spit-Iln-rg'\ [H'!Ia'l1II|'1|I t'l|tllII!|It'V. Lt-/1: 'I'i-rlmi?
tlillli u! lit.-_IJ|':v'Ik 7'~ii:.-rltrmling ZH!ti"!!t1lfil/ill
""_' TU "#1-'~i"~=1\ 1'"-' " "'_' "
"7"I I" H": "'Ifl""'" "I D"''.II""."'_I"I'M",
r//--<1.\. km/1/. Lu.-mh. (!'nHhlI|_\ Int//-nu)
ug;m,,_\ "Inn"-W '_"m_ I|_mmI Hm", H
Upm mm, H, ,/H./H. \,,,,;,,.,_/H-[,_
I)Ll'.|\I_\'t
.
is
' your I1':ttIcr.' It's going tn bu tnuch I]1tIl'(' bcr with lhv lut|nIrctIpt'uplc \vlmc.itttc out hcrg liiutgliul. "Hut lll.ll rciilly iiitt-rruptcil
cuinplirutuil than tliut. It's going tn In: ;i and just listen In (hunt cntuittg Llnwtl Irmn thr ll-t-Iim; .it lhc cml of thr mm-iv."
conibinatimi of tt-It-putliy ;|n(Inn1c sort if the cxpuricitw! I wmiltl |u\'t' to sprtul .in .'\.s in thr tt\'l'L|II thrttst .iml int-.ining til"
:1 utiivcrsul laiitguugc, which is ntzitlwtniitics hour with thcm, zmtl I'm surc Drcyfuss his Iilm, Spicllwrg l'II.lIZI('lL'TIZt'\I his um
' or music." would conic iluwn in ;| Icw ytuirs .uuI ht~'Il U-pl Hf (-X[|';||('r|1-[fi;|I l],j,, -_,\-; -'1 R-ally
Qucstinnctl ZIS tn thr l'L'SLII\I)I;|l'|Ct til thu spltml an lmur with snmclmily. zmtl ht-ll he ft-11 |||_ ;-,,m- m;,y| L-||.,\|g|, 1;, gr-| |-n- _
Dr\'iI's Tower muuntiiin, iisvtl ZIS 2| key to tlchricfctl and ht-'ll go hack looking Iur [his [U nun U, (mm. |.u._ Mm H, um In .|m|m
the UFO mystury in CLOSE IiNC_()UI_\- wile] Runnitz." Spit-llu-r2; |i;iusctl_.i|itI tltfn "mi fur gm") \.mn m_.]|_ MS M," 0|-
TI:RS' I" KI"III"5 IIIIIIIII-I5 mIIIIIII' I" I,I'"I' II he 5 5m' I'_II II I I"r""l prnvcs its:-II. l\'nlnuI\' z.|p|inI us with .| rus-
20III' SIIIYIIIIIIII PI"I*'5I"I- II '*I5IIlI IIIIII' IIPCT "*""" I Io m'""' IIIIIIIIICS r"lI mir Iuscr hcutn. I rt';ill\' \\';|ntt-tl this tn he Ll
IIQIIIII I iIII- A5 1'_ IIIIIIIU "I III? III III IcI':u"ns_I'f' CLOSE ENCoUNYI:IiRS In'|u:\'uIcnl LXLll;lI\_t.4Ul_ ;tll tho ti-ns uf
sixth day of shouting zit the I)c\*ils 'Iuwcr Cilm tu tls present Iurm, the must with-ly [|mmm|s J UH) n.l,n_ "Um. Ur ||.m
III wY"IIIIg- I '35 WIIIIIIIH II" III" 5"" I" IWIIFII "I 'III*'II '35 III" '~II'"PPI"t-1 "I
gu down and I suddenly saw thc mountain III<' urv luistilc. In my llt'.tri, I w.tntt-tl uur I-Ln
Walt Disney tune, I\hcn You \\'ish Upon t-Uumcr 1, |,c pm-.f[_"
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/Tl!-\ l-'v'H't'/III by Siva-mt SpirIIn'rg." Div! punt-nts that we cnultl build up almost in
In It'll _\-nu tulml hr tmrtlt-11 or u-rrv ynu any ]1;|p T \\';|n[fd rm 3 singlc 5\ru,;lu|-_
ulzlr In I/ti't'[t|]I your ntttu i1lm.\'l' l'l\*crything you see where there are multi-
I tlt'\'tlti|it'tl a lot of my uwtt itlcas. l\'s plc t>_l>,iHs is really a single system usvd in
|ust that Stewn wrntt the strct'ttp|a\ ltnn- mulllllll: -l\*- llll ll" 9*-'lll" "l 50""
sell" with a lot of \t'r\' spt'<"ifit' sct|ttettt't's in "l ll "llilllilll 5l?1PK5' lllw ll": "1115 "T HY"
.. ntintl. typvs nl nlijt-rts and types of 1'n- l"'ll_}'l"{_5-
'35 llfill ll 5lRlll"g5 ""E
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I Hiya _f||'1|l]l___|'l.:|:'~'-" rnttnturs. llr had a \'t'ry clear itlca nf what ll'~'1l
.
(-corgt ]vn~tt|_ .t \tt|lt't tllttstrator. Steven -'35 5l""ll lmllllul "l5l'~'i"l 5"mf"
l
tll(lt't. lti ttltt'].1,'Till" dffm properly mt
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and l a 1.vrrrtl right then t-\'t-ti ltrfnrc l start- ling I " mam] surface ml had "Wis
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the film .as..a huh. . .
N1 Mk M H". |,i\.mn._ Hm 1. MM ml. ttt ll, or anything like that.
H-1" ,'7'h.w"' {Hm .w{" I-I Pun
l"-_'"4-5 I" *"f("'- "" "PP'; I" I
"L" ll"-.m'M hr .-imwd lwqlllc nf lo
" lrtttttlittll
lintttgltv tvnttltg tnt-rtgt'tit'
is know"min
he was m\'nl\t-tl ttt the rrtsattntt .h.I|
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"ml l"""|"|l4..'h|". hl'mk"' .H.. |'l'i the vtttirc prnit't't and fttnt'tiunt'tl more 'f"" '1'././"""'1L I'll: ml! "" I/ll '- P.l"
'."k'.lL "?. .h.]m m "'."'l.l' xlkim 'i""' than iust as the tlircctnr. l also had tht: "'l'>//""l- ll! W5 Hi" "1"! ml 47/
M 'h'h in H.' '\")0 \\i) l\.()xl?' point of \*it'w that l wantctl tn clarify how I/'1 "''?
--J-\ lmuiuiml if."-i "W ~\i\~\' Wk mids that was wortlvtl as l had the bad t'xpt-ri- ,ll ms ""Y ll c'l'f']__l cm 5hl"'
id" m ]..'m4' H Hnimhn mm H ".'"-I cttcv: of working for 2": vvars on I001 and '"l' ""'ltl ml) ll "~ ill" 'h"l}' id"
that you L-v;-r knuw what 5| 0;
1'
lt~;tturt' ltlm |Irtttl\ttllttlt was an asstgtttnettt my h;,_ Kubrick Mk; W cred which -,1;
for the ]1t:t'i.tl pltntmgmpltic t'fft't'ts tut the Wm ..'_.i;|1 ||]mmumphi_ H-fL.s |).$iE"_ shape tltese things would come in. There is
mntttttm-ntal llllllz .\ Sl1\(Il{ ()l)\'S.\'l".Y. Cd and |)in.1.|| h. m"|.\. K|".iL.k_.. -I-in" a littc by the little kitl who is very enthusi-
'l'rt_t|ttbull llll>t't!_\l.\|\ll"\\'I.)l'll(l on 'l:_lll'l "mm ms in_-ir;,- ;m| P--mcd mc about the ships. This innocent little
;tslit"_
.\.\l)_R(l.\ll'.ll.\ 5_lR-\l\ fill Rv_lIl'l'l>\\ll'. fmm Ruin H. :\._h.|"y _\.;,d QWL. fm, ktd ts the only one who hatl a positive,
\'I'\'1IlHI\: ll\\' ||\'\'t.tl |1lt0lllllT-lPlll<' rlfv\'\>'. H". Hm] ],.;;,| .m._ ' good Vibes response. l|cs seen the extra-
. "ml lh"l ml l" SHl';'\'T RVNNING i IIntt' ntun\' tm|n']1[_\' n/' I/tr .-llfvn tlill wrrcsulllls imd WY llmk llk"llmllY'l'c
l!I'i'_. _fnt' wltirlt l\tHIlnl only t'reatt-tl the W, _u,, 1/m,,}_k,;, /,,._/',,,,. \.,, ,,,,.,';.,-,1, H. playmates. \\'ht:n the one saurt-r comes
t'Xttttst\t' spvttal t-llrcts hut tlt|'cctctl as hm. I/ml ,,'".,_\- U _,,.I,,y over he yells lte-trc:tm." That was in the
wrll, rxpantlittg into -l|'t'.ts \\'ltt"rc ft-w spt-- ~|m[-5 on 5.n.L. is \.l.I.\. l.|",_. m what stript. so we made a kind of ire-<rcatu tune
rial t-ffcrts tt'rh|titians ha\'t' ltuvn pt'rtnit~ 1|. m.;ui;|| n,m_q,| -115: 1', 5". V1, shaped olijrcttt that hall a lot nfotltcrlights
ted. |l-'or an intt-r\'it'\\' with llntnglas 'l'r\ttn- k|m._ t,spu.iu1l\, whh .h_ M prinu in on it in gm-1 Hf mukc it [L-5; di("|_'f|\;\hlQ_
bull, and article, ttll the making of Sll.ll.\"l" H. |mmMim- [(;;g;j;.|,|_ 1],";-;,_;",, im{|(- (htr of Ihr fim-.t! t']']i't'l: i.t UH .V|lltt7
Rl'N~\'l'\(l- T '-':::Sl- \\'a\' lt\i;|tllit'\t what we waittrtl, tn tnattl\ ""11 /ll-" l"'"$/l I/ll "-"l""'-"~"l"".\' 1""
lrulttlitlll is mu of tltv IIt'\\' lvrvvtl nf M Q-|,,,-,~|\ 1,5 p,,i|,11. |_ _.\|1l-I, ||\<m.k-5 J-,-. lmnlIt_ r/m.tt'1I hv I/tr pnlfru mrx. Ilnw was
young filnttnakvrs who In-lit~\'c that a tnn- ml. ;L,h"ig5v 11".. in .m|,_.(| 1,, n.|t U, 1],, ,[,,,,,-;! i
ll" lll"r" ~"l"'"|l | i l"l""Y """im"l some kind of ltttinannid form with \'t~r\' 0"! "l "l" mill" l<ll'1\$ llllll \\'ll'~"'
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prorvss, tutu in \\'hit'h all aspects nl thr pro< mi cxln,mml_s_ slmnw "hm an _.l.mq;. ,_-\v,_-y 3 tihjctfl |iast'$ over, \\'l\t'l| any pht-n.
"'h"'r' H. in man and with an o\'crsi7.t-tl head, nu cars m:tttr$. it was tn vast a corres-
h'i"" i'"l'|"'"'. "'|' <1It\t:n<\n
potitling light on the people, thc environ-
llll\'* llll "l'l"'l"'lY l" Pl" llll- l'lll5"' and largr t'\t. 'l'ltt~sv: \\'t'rt- sntnc of the
l'l'"\l_'f l_"-"'ll" 'lll' lll-" "*'*_l lll'l- llllcll basit fuaturtis wt: trit-d to atlltt'rt' tn. ln the ment arntnttl it,_sn that it all tit-d lngctltcr.
I R\l\-*l0R<\l- 'l'l' l' "ll l"'~"'l "5 t'xtt-t"rrstrial crowd scvttt-s, we ttst'tl small If an orange tIll|L('l went over, a hig orange
TH 4* l"""'ll'~' >"l""'l-l ll"'l* l_"'- ll l5 t*hiltlrt'n who wvrv cast sput'ifit".tll\ for tltin light wottltl pass across t-vt:ryune's face. In
almttt >|Iat't tt'.t\'t'l, but with an important nus Jml [HIS and nu. lhcsl. nmgks -hi-h ||- ["11 |,,,(,||| 5-|w ||;,;r,_- Wu; nu qty U,
\lllil"'l'\'ll"\'- "l>llL' l""~'l'"l ll-ill 1"I\l\'Il"\- \'(]\| l|\|||li|\t'\l pit'[\|rt'$ of, \\'c itttprtt\'t'tl tin tltat hvcattst: we t'nttldtt't drive a light
l'-"Y *\'lllIl\l>~" -\-ID lI'\1"\lI\lll. ll l5 -llllllll u-| A |i|[|.- _,m| 1]-y -,_n- ,,1\~ st-ll ["7 sottrve through the tnll lumth and tnake it
t*xplti|.tlit\t\ itttn the hutnan mind rather Umul Sn.|.5_ ' believable. \\'hat we did was to shoot a real
than rxploratinn un'tl|mtit"uII_\- into nutct |_-T .]"Sl."p_~. T _.u.m Curl
uscd u lull horn) 4) lm-aiiun in 1,05 ,\ng-It-5 with
spare. .\ll l ran say is that it will hr Vt-ry R;h_|ti |t.\.;-mt U, mi. H. _'\|;. ..Xpn._ no effects \\'lt:ttsnv:\'t'r. Then \vt: built an
lll-l\'\' "I1 -\']It't'i1t| tl'ft't'ls thr ultimatt' spt-- Si. -imrm-u.r_ an m;,.'m.m5_ ]._|(| mm-l._ itlcntiral tniniatttre toll lmnth with little
rial t'l'ft-tts trip." mums ml |-;_i_|| ..xm._i(,"_ '|"|"r nu. fir glass windows all tnatlv uttt of plastic and
t"xtratt~rrt-s'trial vntt st-c in that wall of light, "ll l'ill"l'~"l 5"" ll 1| lllcllllllll !l'"Y ml "ll
II-in tlnl \llII lnt'tIYlIt' |'rt:-:>[zw/ zt-tilt _, arr. mi" Jml ".xmk..|\. M" cn.;mm._ it is trarks we could fly mtntatttn; [l|~'()
t.'I U.\'I:' I'..\'l.'Ul.\'II{It.\'! hm;',i| hm |-<5 ]"";|m,i(| Hm" l|"_.1;"|C through the toll booth whirh were ill\ttt\in-
l tgnt a wall from $tt'\t- Spit-llwrg .tkit\t1 mu-5 [hm -.,|l- ,,u|_ '|'|-R-35;,1,|(,f";m. ated and lit-up all the various sttrfates of
if l was possibly a\'ailaltlt' tn tln tltt'|iirtttrt-. |,,m||.-\' H, it ;,|"| ||~ 5}-1-H1 Sum-Um-_ the toll booth. 'l'hat sttrface illumination
II .\t first ul.ttttt' l \\.ts not terribly itIt\'rt'stt'tl. ;,,,,| \-," ,-_,,, _,|m,,,-| _,~l-.- ||m,q|, ;;_ it -3; was simply dnublwcxptisctl n\'r;'r the real
l \\'a intn a lot of st-trrt proit-cts and was |-;|[|t'- _; fairly _<|;\||-t-;,|t- ptipw-t pht1|t)- toll hontlt so that the reflections nn the
tint t~spt'ri.||ly intt*rr>lt-tl in tlniut; spt't'i;tl ;_rf;|I|]\|~|l up-_|i||t ,t mii_mm- |),|('k,_I1t1\l[\(l_ windows correspond tn all the lighting
llltt'l$ llll -\I\HllN'Y lllI'\'<l<'T -1* l'll lllIK<'ll'tl \\'t' built a smallt-r sralr \'t'rsit\tt nf the .\ln- effetts and shifting shadows that would
Sll.l-LN l' Rl'X.\'lN(;. \\'bt-n l nwt with |i\tl',\lIi|l and pltttltn1t'.tpltttl it .n_'ainst that, nccttr naturally on the miniature.
St;-\'t*tt we really tnrt t\'t' tn rye nn wltat he _|t [hr _\/mrrtlii/ t/HHY II/I|'Il.\ tnmr Irnm, Wax Ihul st'qu'1t(1' rrmletl by trial and
wantt-d to at'ltit~\'t- and what l would like to t'!r.\ tmnr ,l,,n." mu] ,,|mn urnmnl. It'll! rrmr nr rlirl yutt ltnvr fl all plannt-:1 in ad-
acltit'\'t-. 'l'l\<' prnjt't't really tied intn a int of an Iln'\- _\u/1/nun] In In-K tlartcr?
thin_t;s I wantvtl tn \;tl tgnintg and wt: really It is bard tn makt" out just what that is. \\' knew that was how we were going to
st~cmt'tl tn lw spt-akitn; the satnv l.tttt_{tt.tgYt'. IIn;t' Inrgw :t'||.\ 1ln- H|nI/:'/ 1,1 1In- _\h|IIn~r- do it. We planned it helort: we shot it. The
It was also an nppnrtunity l'nr IIIC tn amass ,tlti]_/ exact details of how we built the miniature
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up a deal to not only make the pi<'tttrt' but t~\~t-ral months In build. lt is full of all ll lll lmlllll 1" mllllturv and photograph
it with a matchirig lens or we could shoot it
tn set up a spt't'ial facility that would in- };iml> nf tritky irim; Syqt-tn, ml m-on
cludt: a lnt nfttt'\\ l&iIttl.\nft't|\ti|lInt'ttt.t1t'\\ lig|1ti|t|_[_ ttttngstclt bulbs and v\'t'r\' im.tgin- with a different lens hy building a forced
tet"hnit'al innovations, new kinds of prnjct"- ;,|,|. kind nf fi|,r,_. ,,p|i1t_ perspective miniature, whith ts in fact what
3'0" !|1';'|'r trr any n/ Ihr ,\']mt'r,tI1[); WI: did. The tnll booth tniniatttrc was abi-
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C[,()Sl{ I-ZNCOUNTERS (_)F THE to entertain people iii general. I was very Right: Wlieii he was young he started in
']"|RD K|ND was a jomjh. imcgrab frustrated \\'lll\ how movies were being the movie l)llSlI\tS. I \\~as_liorii in I9-I2 and
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I thiiik he left tlte business abotit I9-I3
when the war started. lle worked on ilillli
"_any other \\'1l); 1h3l '5 one of ll"? studios coiildii't owii their own theatre WIZARD OI OZ antl some other filins.
I)! roblems with films in iicneral chains. That esseiitiallv cri Pi )led any kind \\'lien the war. came he became iitore ola
.- tlit~F-litilt-Iyiitlustry
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lL'gllll";l\lC' eiigiiit;tir Lillil went lllllklrlle
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kc pculllh L _a "lwdla handed locked in right there. It was either 35min l.liNT RUNNING I asked Iiiiii if he would
luumgc that '35 Pll"Il"1l1l'l by or Yllinni, and a certain shape theatre,antl like to come and work with iiie. lle is a
somebody else at sonic other time. A certain kind of srrt-en, and ccrtaiii II\L'Lll()- hrilliaiit engineer and I need a lot lIfS])t'(l;\I
lot of producers and directors think "P wliiiil sysleiiis, and thats ilic i-vii) "'5 '~"ll"'""g.' I "'. ""Y l'|l'g " c"l"
\ras.I1t\\' rigs. lzverything I use is not a\'atl- L
h - I - i been -\ll the iiinovatioiis that Iiappeiit-tl
I at lo
CM Ills, ll, '"":,spl-Cm before that resulted from coinpetition be- able off the shelf. \\'e build evcrytliing spi:
cial to meet special needs. It scents that
"I-rms whc" Yllu W ""(mgh- tween the stiidins. with Ciiieiiiascope, \'is-
~l)0tlgl;l Trumbull ta\'ision, anil Totltl-.-\O. .-\lI the iinpro\'e- every picture, every project I work on
meiits that Itatl been going on simply stop- needs special eqiiipineiit. So lie sort of
g],_- fmmc and p35,,-(1 Um Hg)"; as T pcd. I came up ivitli some ideas tliat_l started with me on Sll.l'lt\"l' RUNNING
m-(|,_-(|_ |,|,,,_~k by |,1m<k' in g1-,,"p' -;\|, tlioitglit would be major breakthroughs in antl\\'e'\'e been working C\Cl"SlI'lCL.
|,1;~k puinh how iiio\'ies roultl be |.)l'IU\0gT;]]lllL'Itl., pro- ]oIin llykstra worked with me oti Sl-
'|~|u.n_. was also J .i1|. Jug. sh," "H1". jcrietl and presented to the pitblic. l'uture Ll-j,\IT RUNNING and then we worked on
w|,|,_. ,-,,,"r\.i(|,_. hi,-|| was |,,|;,]1\- mini. (ieiicral gave iiie an opportunity to tlo that several projects after that. _]ohn took
I lun._ W. hum mm. W. dcmij,.,j [,m_,.,j experiinciitatioii. l'in now ready to shoot ST.-\R W.-\RS. which I ditln't want to \\'ork
Perspective iniiiiattirt-s of the lI\tIlZllll|l't)lll1- l' ms 'l"' l' ml I 4 """Y "' 0" l1l'1l\1$\ I Wilnil l"|"'5\'-ll I" dull!-I 3"
trvsitle with fieltls and little liariis antl l""''5 ["7 L lmlly "Cw ll"""' "Ill" 5I'1C'-' "I)~'l'1- .l"l"l "ml I lKclll' hill
built a smaller version of this more sophis-
btiiltlings, all of which is very dimly expos- _l1_ "v"l_"_""_(f'1'll"1ll'fl'|_l'* f"1)/l"" Ill '1"
ed, just enough to look real. \\'c couldn't ""111 (-I-)5? I--\(-OI-"~\'I4'il\'~\:' ticated electronic machine called a Mini-
find any real terrain that matched our Y'5- l""l\"'\ G*"1'Y-Tl
ed all the special effects.
5"IlY 5uI""l|'4"-l' Sfili Ii" kl<lY""l '~'l"\lY"lllF ll "P I0 I0"!
motors controlling camera pan, tilt, dolly
needs.
7 Tilt St!/Iltllt't at l/It lYIl/ ll'Ill'Vl' you //fl-I l""'' (il"lt"lI! 54'1"! """l|"1ll!l'!/I0? and focus. You could run them automatic-
t'lHYIl' lu lflt' "lanrli'iig fit'liI," tens lltal all H" -'ll'l"ll'niy .-lwaril? ally interlocked which was a big jump he-
one snuiiil stage? 0|"! of the systems we usetl on CI.O5l'l yontl what we built for 'l0(ll, which wasn't
It wasn't a souiitlstage. It was shot in an Ii-\lCUUN'll'lR$ we call a Motion Control any more complicated than a washing ma-
airplane hangar in .\IobiIe, Alabama. \\'e S)'l'~ J PYNIY 5"Pl1l5\l1\lt-ll 1'l'~flYl>I\ll chine. So when john went to tlo STAR
went to Mobile because it was the only Illa "~'C"I"-ll"!-I 5Y5"5m rt" Tl-'C""ll"l all he WARS hf 5lIlfl'~ll blllllllllll Ill" I"-XI H5I\ll'i1'
place we could find a big enough building, movements of the camera in 1| slioi. The iion of this electronic systein and my fath-
\\'e looked all over the world, mostly in the 54" kind "I 'i"-'lll"- hull IYY ll" 511" '37 W0ll<l TOY lllm 15 ll Kl"'-I "11 |h"
Unitcil States, and stumbled on these two PI-PI J5 m11ll9Y"fI111l- W515 \15ll ft"
51 1-I my lllhff \\0Ilt'<l 0" CLOSE l'1NC0UN'
\-cry Iufgf ;iiyp];,|w i,;mg;"5 at 3 (ii5ud air. different purpose in STAR l\'.-IRS. T-liis Tl-LRS in the same capacity. Ile ended up
fit-iti in i\1Di,ii_ F,-i, ii-Y M-; "0; big system that we built was iiominatt-d for an building camera equipment for both of us.
Academy Award this year as a Technical We actually share equipment occasionally, I
enough. We ended up adding a big extcn-
sion tn one of the hangars. We had to build Achievement. share designs. We're all sort of a small
3 |_r,() for, [cm (mm [hf cm] uf |,;|u5 We went _on location iii Mobile, Ala- group of people doing the same work and
[hf \ was Six [if|1clufgcr than [hc biggul llama with this electronic system. We hatl a it makes the process of technical advance-
Suumt 5133,; in ;|,,||y-m,d_ Thu was 3 big special camera built that had sensors wliicli mcnt happen a lot faster because we hay:
big 5-L |; inciudj not only [he st-L bu; are optical encoders on the pan, the tilt, such tight communications. My tlail built
the ,1-gs mum; the 5 and J huge mack the focus change, and the dolly track all the mechanical systems for the Motion
dmpl, 360o umund_ we jmm um [Cm om movements. We could record within a Tracking _ystein, plus conquered a_lot of
um. end. J" blacked um .h,_.. [he sun U; l0,000tIi of an inch anything that the cam- other engineering prtililems on thepicturc.
hluf imding gins cxicmt (mg craman did during a take so that once we Hutu was (.L().Sk hN(_.()UI\l!;RS to
)1, w,-N U" [hg -1; mm-/| 9/11" ;,',m- went back to shoot the miniature or to work an cmnpart-ll to Q00]!
am] ""1 I'M; at H. mv,;";mp pau~;",,g in shoot the effects that correspond to that It was certainly a job of eq_ual
H H. ,-ff,-1-1;? shot we could recreate those moves cXact- tude. lhe difficulty for me on f.l.OSl. I-.l\-
\>(.5_ |l was u mmjjy imcg.mu.d pmdu, ly so that when you matted two pieces of COl_Il\ITl-IRS was the sort of bizarre juxta-
ML | ,_v,,,,|dn', ha. dam. it any Um" lm together they _moved_c-xactly together position of extremely unusual effects in an
,y_ That is om. M ht big Problems Wm, as one. Ordinarily in movies you re doing a extremely ordinary setting. This is one of
mms in gmemj and he big pmblcm rm, special effect and you have to lock the the most difficult effects to achicvc in my
SP-i;,| ttffc-ms pt-up|c_ They are ways camera, you cant pan or tilt or change opinion. l think it is a simpleotask to_ cre-
h_1n<]_-(1 |'L,,,ug. [hm was phuwgmphuj by anything. \ou don iv touch the camera. atc laser beamsjind spaceship fighters in an
,,mh,,|y ,_-[Sc M mmc 0"," mt _,\ 10 Or lliis makes for_static images. \\lc wanted a essentially comic book atmosphere than to
P,-,,d,,.,5 and dirccmrs mink [hm ynu Cm lot more exibility than that since our ob- be tied down to reality with just ordinary
just buy some special effects when you're jffli WU" moving ii l0l- This W35 ii Wily. fur country roads with fcncc posts and trucks
and cars. You have to make all this stuff
through. I think that l).\l\lI\'t\TlON AL the first time in movies, to have that kind
l.ll\' is a classic example of that. You can't of camera freedom during a composite happen and yet be believable. It was very
take that approach, and that's what they matte. Itjust worked tcrrifically. difficult, certainly more difficult than
did. You just can't save live action photog- This award then is for the equipment 2001, and a lot more technically sophisti-
rapliy once it's photographed incorrectly. rather than a special effects award for the cated.
If they allow the camera to jiggle or move lm? The budget fur CLOSE ENCOUNTERS
during a matte then it is just hopeless. That Yes, it's something you apply for way is quoted at between 818 and I19 million.
lm could have been good, I'm sorry to tell before the other awards are even nominat- Haw much of that was far special t-ffcrls?
you. I was involved in the picture. I helped ed. The Technical Awards Committee will I'd say $5.5 million was for photograph-
it get started. I was going to co-produce it eventually make a decision on the award ic special effects. I couldn't say how much
and possibly direct it. We had some fantas- and announce it bcforc the official Acade- money was allocated to Roy Arbogast's un-
tic designs and some good script ideas and my Awards ceremony which features the it doing the practical physical effects. Roy
they just tumetl it into shit. It's really a other voted categories. This award is more was in charge of things like screws that
shame. like a decision making process within the come out of the floor and smoke effects
What is I-ulurc G('!t(7l (.'0rporali'ori? Academy's Technical Branch. It shouldn't and jiggling mail boxes, and all that comes
Future General is ii company that I even go to me or to Future General but to under the heading of mechanical special cf-
fon-ned 3% years ago, a subsidiary of Para- the two guys who built the system. fects. ,
mount Pictures, to do research and devel- I understand your father, Dan 'l"rum- This year special effects films seem to
opment on how movies are made and how bull, worked on STAR WARS? be a /ad. Do you think the studios will can-
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cial features that made them look like throughout. bringing cyclic feminine asso~
3 WO.\lliN A 20th Century-Fox Release. ciations floating to tlte surface. Sot1'tC~
4/77. I22 minutes. Del.uXe Color. Pro- birth-related twins. For photographs they
sometimes donned identical clothing. tintcs this is accotnplished with a watery
clucecl, written and directed by Robert scrim overlay on the bottom half of the
Altman. Music by Gerald Busby. Art di- Identities merge in dreams. Identities
merge itt ii \\'().\ll'li\', based on Robert frantc, moving like a tide, similar to those
rector, _]amcs D. Vance. Edited by Dennis devices imitating tidal waves which are
Hill. Director of photography, Chuck Ro- Altman's dream. I was in financial trou-
sher. Visual consultant._]. Allen llighfill. ble," said Altman. I needed a picture sold as novelties.
the hospital. The three women are Millie, Millie and
Sound. _]im Webb. Chris Mcl.-aughlin. As- very badly. My wife was in l just dream- \\'illie, a name-game not unlike the way
sociate producers. Robert l-Iggenweiller, Everything was shaky. And
all of characters were named in Altman's l.\l-
Scott Bushnell. Makeup, Monty West- ed tltis lm, as a film. l dreamed title, the .\Gl-LS. The childlike linky Rose says her
more. Murals by Bodhi Wind. Production it-the locations. the cast, the
theme. There was no third woman in the real ttame ts Mildred. The rose tn an an-
executive, Tommy Thompson. in rub mm
dreatn. There were Shelley Duvall and cicnt symbol of set"retya.sRosicrncians.
Sissy Spacek becoming thrce women. ln aitd the rosy cross of the
Millie Lammoreaux . . . Shelley Duvall
Pinlty Rose. . . . . . . . . . . Sissy Spacek the writing of the outline the
third wo- Duvall is .\lillie Lantmoreatix, who has.
Rule man, the Janice Rule character. just perhaps, borrowed hcr identity frotn her
Willie llart , . . . . . . . . . ._]anicc
previous rootttmate, Deidre. The root of
Edgar Hart . . . . . . . . .Robert Fortier imposed herself.
The film makes its own transformation the word "twin" means two strands
Mrs. Rose . . . . . . . . . . . Ruth Nelsott twisted together," and the l'ilms main
john Cromwell -from a near ANNIE HALL-like look at
Mr. Rose . . . . . . . . . .
feminist extrap- two characters, both transplanted Tcxatts
Polly . . . . . . . . . . . . Leslie Ann lludson cultural conditioning to a
. .Patricia .~\nn lludson elation that has more in common with in California, are "doubles" of the ac-
Peggy . . . . . .
the science fiction of Joanna Russ than tresses, as r.t-vealed by the names of their
Ms. Bunweill. . . . . . . . . .Sierra Lecheur Mclies hotnetowns. Millie is from Houston, as is
Dr. Maas . . . . . Craig Richard Nelson the usual American film. Georges
Do\'all. linky says she lived near Long-
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fetnale counterpart \vas :\liCe Guy Blache
(no one seems to know for view," site of Spacek's hometown, Quit-
Roy is not as Thinnes Shelley Du\'all. who may idea man.
and a_]OURl\'l-.\ TO lllF. F.-\R SIDE Oi" surc) deserve credit for creating the
tell stories, and Pinky, described by Spacek as a blank
THE SUN wouldn't net as many doppel- that film could be used to Melies, direct- page, begins work as the Desert Springs
gangers as 3 \\'().\ll-LN, a visionary tale of who, in the same period as
ed fantasies. mysteries and Poe adapta- Rehabilitation and Geriatric Center where
cosmic twinning. The notion of cosmic Till-I old person is paired with a young
lN each
twins or time twins"people unrelated tions, eventually producing about a woman attendant. llere l'inky meets
by birth but leading parallel liveshas YEAR 2000, science fiction
worltl ruled by women. Forgetting lllache Millie, fittds .\lillic.s lifestyle (no of constant
basis in fact (albeit unexplained except cottsunter chatter "perfect" one else
by astrologers) and also has relevance and its_own origins. the male-dominated
film industry has, for decades, devised bothers to listen) and begins to fill in the
here, especially so since Spacek and l)u- serve blanks. .\lillic lives at the Purple Sage
vall are the same age- 27. The German countless movies in which women
and ;\parttncnts itt at bright yellow bachelor
physicist Otto Hahn, who received the merely as backdrops. display fashions actions of girl apartment. linky eagerly moves in
19-H Nobel Prize for splitting the uran- skin or offer reactions to the
the women are not with Millie, immersing herself in .\lillic's
ium atom, was born March 14, I879 ~the melt. stories where life, borrowing her possessions, her Social
same day Einstein was burn. One of the part of the plot but are "furniture," as in
llender- SOYl,F..\"l' GRICILN. Security nutnber and eventually her
most curious cases is that of_lean natnc.
son and joyce Ritter. Both were horn in ln Ii \\'()MilN it is mmt who are cast as
sex ohjectsrelcgatcd to the background Also employed at the DSR.-\(i Center
the same five minute period on February alcohol, are the identical twins, Peggy and Polly,
20. 1947, in a White Plains, New York where they role-play with guns.
that who pcrsooify thc filttt's mystical exten-
fathcrs who held simi- uniforms atttl motorcycles. unaware
hospital. Both had The sioos of doppelgangcrs. reflections. rc-
lar jobs at the same airport. Five children their authority is being usurped. placements, matches aml shadow ilIt;t_t;t's.
were in each family. When _]tan and central tnale figure is I-Zdgar llart central
involved with all |ts an ancient theme, and twins have
Joyce were six, they began living next because he is sexually as a boozing turned up in countless horror and fantasy
door to each other. causing a great deal of three women. lle is depicted
motions pictnres l).'\RK lNl'RUI)I-LR.
confusion in the neighborhood and at frontiersman with no frontier left
to con-
ersatz cowpoke, uselcsslcftov- Till". DlN\\'lCll ll()RR()R. Till; O'l'll-
sChool~-for they had nearly identical fa- quer, an a
llR, SlSTi-'.RS and more.
er from the West with a phoney nt;tscu-
line movie-style banter that rings hollow leggv and |'ollv ttsuallv glance around,
toss t-lit-ir hair and walk iii t-otal synchron-
by From the beginning. water flows
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rcciml hy Si.-rgc ilc lulii;iiy. Scrm-n|il.iy lay Thu .il>i'ii|nin-ss iniplirs ihc iln|iiiii.nim- ul
(lc l<:lii;ny \\'lll\ iliulugiic hy _]c.iii (Inn i-\'il wiiliuiii riailly liziyinig [<1 slimy ii. iisii~
lL1l\l. \\'iih: _l<';in (lurii-.iii. .-\l;iin (Iiiny_ .illy ilir inisi.ilu- of "ills ilircly ppssiiiiisiii
Oilvliv _|ny<'iix, v];lll}' llnli, Cl;\\Hll' Sinn- hnrrnr films.
yail. .\iiilri' l.1'f.nir. (}.ihrii~llc lhirziiii. I)i1:-i':l Ilurllmlnnirw
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CO.\l.~\ [.\licl1;1cl (irirlitonl l11itt'tl:-\rtists Big \\;1tt'r. sloppy 11.1w :1n1l tlioroiiglily
2/78, 1\l1'tro1'olor. H3 1ni11. With: Gene
1ic\'t' lhljoltl. .\lit'h:1cl Douglzis, Rivlurtl
plltllC|;tlIlL clim:1x 1|u.1lil') this :1s (|llLlL'l{ l
nost:1lgi:1. lYnlort11t1:1t1- l11~<":1\1st~ .\1~\\-lzinnl
\\'i1l|n:1rk. "(Irichto11 finally gets lu play
h:1s :1l\\':|1s lu'1'11 1111 iiitcrvstiiig,il'11111~\'1*11.
i11 :1 hos|tit;1l. and pvrlunns t'xtcllt'nl
sur- ruiitriluitur to tl11' qvurc i.1'. 1EITfl'5
gery on Robin Cook's lvustscllcr :1l1ot1t :1
hlatk n1:trkct i|1 urgzin tr:1nspl:1nts. Pon- l)().\"'l' llli .-\l"'R.'\ll) (H7 'l'lll-l l).'\RK.
lllTUll cxposition loppvtl off. r1:;1ms 111'
is
.\l:111yof tht oltl lll'.\'().\'l) 1'|1i.\'o1l1-s \\'t'rc
trxt :1r1' tlistillctl intu pithy :111tl cmirisc int<-lligrnt (who 1'.111 forget
i11\*<'111i\'1' .1n1l U
dialogtic Cctu'S, :1n1l (.onk s mvsd stlt<l<'11t The Sncrvtl .\l11sl1mo|11.' with .\'c\\'|.111tl
nhscssioli with lit-httlilling t1:cl1ni(:1I dou-
;1111l |1ro1l111'1'r (lollit-r Y1111111; :11't1|:1lly t'.1l-
lwlctulk is rinscnl uttl i11 (Irirl1ton's tight ing thc titlt-tl l'11n1g11so11~r;11111'r:1?), as wt-rc
No-I:1111l's spur.uli1' 1'o11tril111tio|1s to thu
:1111l :11lmirt1hlc srripting. The l1c:1\y n1c1li-
1';1l flzivurilig oc1':1siot1:1lly lukcs its loll ct|t1.1lly i11consisu'11t 'l'llRll.l.l~lR. But tl1is
t'ntr1' r1'sol\1's itsull .1s .1 svlf~ripolT this
rl1.1r:1r|cr\1'isv:'lilljt>ltl h:'_1;it1s ;1s :111 auto- |1ilnt' is
1n.1t1111 r;1tht'r tl1.111 ;1sscr|i\1'.' ititlircctly
:1 \'irt11.1l ru111:1k1- of .111 oriqi11.1l
lil-lY().\'l) svmiivitt tillnl "l'i1l:1l \\'.1\'t-'
;l\lSll\g .1 11.1st1' tl1cn1:1li1" mitl-film hrc:1k l1r11:11lc.1st i11 lfltitll" I11u/.\l. .\'uu1nmn
i11\\'lIlLlt the story must p11\tst' to illut11i-
n:1t1' hcr l111m;111ityl>11t thcn thv: super-
scienrc thriller t:1kr:s nwr, hurtling us Oll, (SUI)! |(Z.1rl Rcincrl \\'.1|111-r llms,
zuilh lhijohl into conl'ron1;1tio11s with :1 ltl/77. (ulnr, lU~l mi1111t1's. With: (Zcorgc
lc-cring hit m:1n. u grusnmv:ly rczilistit" clac- ll11n1s._|oh11 l)1'11\'cr, Trri G.1rr. "'l'l1v:l1cst
trortttioii :1111l r:1mp:111t p;1r:1noi;1 ;1s shc rust for :1ll\t'is|11 l'\'1- 1-1'1-r st-1'11. S;111|11' 'l'\'
, ' sitrotn huntnr l1:1sl11-1|\\'itl1 11.1i\c prol'u11
drlvcs into thr omi11o11s goiligs-1111 ;1t thc 'i tlitirs. l'm OK/Yo11'ru OK tl11~r:1py for thv
_]cl'lv:rso11 lnstitutt-_ with its :1licn :1111l .\T:<ll1'I'II.U'I'
spi|1cfr1-rziiiig ilisplny of 1'o111:11os1' l111|11:111
inzisst-s. who :1|1p:1rc111ly 1-iijoy living 1l1~~
\'cgt't:1l>lcstl1t- lmldcr for thu ill1~1;.1| or- l111l1'1l. R1-int-r's i111|1r1-.~:sim1 of I'/11' I'i1!11r1
{
pcrlmps futuristic (or .1lic11) 11-orltl :1|11l Imrizm (-'m_\' is mutt, l111t
g;1t1-running. Uittlcr (Iri1"l1to1\'s tlirccliuti
u_/ l1.1rtlly\\'urll1
tlcnst-ly p;1rn<lyi111; tho kind of l>;1t1.1li1y llIt' |1ri1'c11l' :11l111issiu11."
thr ti-clt1111loqit":1l 1ri\'i:1 carrics 11 11111111-y~ th:11 1l.1ily s11rro11111ls us :1n1l svt-111s to l1:1\'1-
llJ('l& q\|:1r:1nlt'c \\~hih: riulcly cxposing tl1- I-rwlt-rii"/1' .\'. (.'!ur/tr
potv1tti.1l for such pl1c11o111c11;1 to on-rr11l1'
hunmns .1ntl tltis film 1lc111o11str:1|<'s th.1t
l>c1'o111c the 1-111l-prmltlct of 1'i\'iliz:1tion.
llrspitc this l>1ttl_11t-1, l.yn1'l1's spt1i:1l vi
lt'1'ts,i|1<'l11dit1g:1 (m1'1'l1:1|1i1'.1l) ht'.1st/1'l1il1l
S'l'.\R lll.()'l [lit-lro l"1'.111risri] .\lo11:1rrl1
ll/T7(t'tit1), l-..1st111.1111'olor, K119-1) min-
LI-
the l1u111:111 v:l1:111<'11t :1s wt-ll will 1'1111|int1c
to s1~1-p tlirougli the 111.1t'l1in1'ry in (Iricl\t-
11nd some stop-niotion, ;1r1~ si111pl\ 1-xtr.1~
ordinary. 111111 the 1vl1ult' is gi\'ttt .1 strik~
1|t1-s. \\'ith: l.1'o|111r.1 R11l'l'. Kirk .\lurris.
(iorilnn .\lit<'h1'll. "l'..1rth sciciitists lm.1r1l
<
1111's film work. :1 l1it murc c:1t"l1 timr.
.-\ ingly :1l1sorl1i11g qu:1lit1' hi l"1'c1l lilincs :1 sp.11'1~sl1ip ;1111l l>l;1st ol'l' for thc ll11lr:1
cn111pctt'|1t, proll-ssio11;1lspccul;1ti\'ttl1rill- 111111 llt.'fl)LTl (I;1r1l\\'cll's lightinig .1ml
er, sometimes roltl, murc oftvn chilling. pl1o- t'(lll$lL'llillllllI; thcir ship is .111 .1l11|11in1111t
tograpliy, prol1:1l1ly thc fin:-st l1l:u"k-;1n1l- foil lt1llll;|l\lt'L; (luring ilt-1-11-$11.11 r1'p;1irs,
hut 1l:'fi|1i|t'ly ciigrossirig." Scltmv wliitc pltotograplty 1-
I)111~1- 1lu111- si111'1' tltv'~lUs. I thvy 111.1i11t;1in :1 1v1'i14l11lcss11t-ss 1'l'l'1-rt hy
:1m not 1::1sil1 gin-11 to n\crst:1t1:|111~|1t. 51-1: juiiiping ull tr.1111pnli11cs: thcy l.111tlo11ol1l
ER.-\Sl-.Rllli;\l) [D:1\*i1l Ly|1cl1| A l,ihr:1 this thing."
Film, lll/77, l>l:1tl-< & whitu, 90 minutt-s.
I).111'1I Ii.1r1I1.1I|1111v:1~ l'l,.'\.\'li'I' OF 'l'lll-1 \'.\.\ll'lRl.S scls; .111
.1li1'n l:1|1_1;11':11;c must hr 1l1'1'i]1l11~r1'1l. to
\\'itl1:>|oh11 Nzincc. Cliurluttc Sl1:w:1rl. .-\l-
l1-11 ]ostph. _]v::1n|1e lS;1tt's. "l'r11tl11u'1lo11
'llll~'. l.\'(IRl-.l)lllLl'l lll'l.K
|K1'11111'tl1 \vl1it"|1 unv 11p-:1t11l-<'11n1i11g sclt11l.1r t\'i:1 thc
:1 _]oh11son| CBS-'l'\', ll/77, t't1lt1T. H10 tltuitlly llnglish ilulihingl r1~n1.1rks Snuiitls
sliot-string with p;1rli:1l uid from tlu: .1\H, 111i11ut1~s. \\'itl1: llill Bixh1'_ S11s.111 S11lli\':1n.
this lilni is truc r:1rit1::1t1nrigi11;1l\\'ork likv B11lg.1ri.111;' thc plot ilisiiitt-_1gr:1tt's :1l'tcr
:1
Lou Ft-rrigiio, .l ark (Zol1*i11. Kviiiicth forty miiiutcs :1111l thc tlircctor invclits
that svcviniitgly has no :111u'cc1lc11ts i11 tlw |ol111sot1's|il11'r.1l:1l.1pt.1tion ol'th1: .\l;1r\1l I
grnrc. lt is|1<1t.1l1str:1t"t,l1ut ild1:cs:1(o- two or thrcc new tltlt' \\l\lt'lI pron-1-1| si-
(lotnics bclicmotlt is .1 li\'t'l)' ;1n1l c11u'r- 1111tl1;1t1vo11sly'. l"irst rv:lc.1s1'tl lt.1Iy as
hcrt-111 plot 1h:s1'riptio11. i11 l':1v:t, it tlclics t.1i|1i11g picrc of n1clo1lr:1m;1. licttcr lay f.1r
i11
1|:-srriptioii of .111) kind. lt is :11 011cc Z + :'1 .\ll.\'Sl()Xl~'. llYl)R.'\. Xl1>11.1r1'l1 l1;1s
tl1:11\ thc 1<1n1i1 hook itsrlf. llis 111"1\' :1n1l rut sonic 1-xpository s1'1'11cs fmin the rur-
sliocking and l'1|n11y:1111l is 1l1't-ply :1111higu- \':1stl1 more 1'l'l'v:1'ti\'v: origin of the llulk is
uus, not unlikv: rcnt tluhhul \'1'rsio11. which 1lo1's11't ht-lp.
lcryptogrtuit without
11 uitlctlliy Bill llixl1y's t'o|1vi11ci11g|mrlr:11';1l This film has rcpoitcilly hvun sl1o1\'n o11
clues. Prnd11tt'1l, tllH'('ll'(l, tlcsigiictl, writ- of l)r. l):1\'id llrttcc ll:111111r. who \\~l1vn .-\n1t-ric;111 1cl1*\'isio11. :1|11l, .1ltl1o1tgh the .11l
It-11 and 1-tlitctl hy l\u\'id l.ym'l1, the lilm pitmpcd full of g:1n1m;1r:11li;1tio11 turns i11-
1.-1'1:11|1' divitlcs its time l>t'l\\'Lc'|\ 11nl'li11t"l1-
c:111tp:1ign for thc tln-.1tri1'.1l version is
to :1 st-11-11-l<11>t-t:1ll, grccii-ski11111'1l Louis niru, thv lull ll-utttrv c:111't 1o111p1:tt- with
ingly 1lcscril1in_1; :1 hru1.1l. 11ight111:1rish, l"v:rrig11u. Susan Sulli\".111 rxrcls :1s l)r. its11\\'11tr:1il1-r." /1-V/]n'_\'I~'n~11!:t'n
1\l:1rks, untl iiitlcctl |h1' tourliing
l'll:1i11;1
I-It-l-5"-I/1'!!!-'-'1/) hut tlooniul rt-l.1tio11sl1ip h1't\\':'1'11 li;1nt1cr 'IIIh I.\L'R!,I)II1LI. II!'LK
and Marks is good tlcul morc lioncst .1|11l
.1
ulft-cliiig th:u1 su-11 i11 most str.1igl1t<lr:1~
mzttit" scrivs. _]oh11so11 pron-s liimsclf an
adept writcr/prutlitccr/tlircctor; thv: first
five minutes :1rL' luvcly. thc lztst live min-
utes :1rt- gloriously pop-tr;1gir i11 thr way
that 1\l:1rvt'l Coniics usul to he ln:l'orc
they wcnt down lltL' tiihv.-s. :1111l i11 lic-
twccn we can alnm.\'1 ln'|ic\c in that s1'\'cn
foot green mnnstt-r." .-llun Iirvzimvl
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SCIENCE FICTION
HORROR, FANTASY
CINEFANTA TIQUE is your guide
to a filmie Sense of Wonder
VOL 1 no 1 iiii Ihc ill iii DRACULA A. view; MARRIED .=\ .\1os- VOL ~1 rm s vote no 1
DOC s.\\~.1\t:u;iiiieiiii_|=iii=i [ION DII T\hll\'TI Fil-ID! 1,11-.ii,i. CUIIEII UI1 riiiiiiiiii l)I'lMON!;
The Hillnfy ld 1e<iiii1qiii rtlmig ~1c;111 01" 1111; 1.1\'-
illiti itludiig i|'IICI'\'itM5 Wllil Juil iiiiiiiii [lit
of FINDS) riiiii .\!li!l'Illi0l'I" ING 111..-\11i11sii rriiiiiiiiiii OI1 11. lili!
iiii iiii wiiii with 1tii- CilAII\iJCI'! On
or
Milk wiiit. dtllig lpttill IHECI! ind riiiiiiiiii iii llfitik iti lming 50111: CALI. i1ii- PIIIKIUCCY/t.ilf!ll0f ICNTI iii iillttp riii 151..-wt DR.
Pill 1 by
KEVIN Ic iT(idI( 1'i=ii<iiiiii11- .\lURI'..-\U.
with Illbdli illiIIllLiOII ipeeiii DARK s1.-xiiiciiiiiiiiiiiiei 1." 11 LO\'lNG;7..-\l(DOZ.
effeCI.\; DRACULA '11. ii pXl- Ind pltillflf .'\I'IllItlI\y' miiiiii lilllfiltd iiiiii II ll'It' l)aIllC IU
Ill! '0Il;|lii)l'l iii voi. 2 NU-I ieiiiiiii RING KONG; riiiiiiiiii \'o1.s 1~:o2
view iii the ciiiiniiiiiio 1.i-= Key! kiiSk'\-IS!
Ray ".IJY)'l'\i'lUlln CID Ipttlll =1-
iiiiii iiiei fll!i!2d ll COUNT CDLYICIIIIKIIC i'I'0d\1l'Iil)!l! iiiii The Filming iii 1111. ixmzi 111 1111. DF.\'ll. A D.~\tGllT~
NOTHING BUT THE CIST including interviews with ER .it llammer. fects and SINB.-\D AND THF.
DRACULA. lming EV}. OF Tllli TIGER; filming
NlGllT;Sll.l>.N'l' RiNNlN(i. William Fnedkin. _|ason .\liller,
lllli Illtlp iiiiii niei Smilli; vo1..=i NU !)I!l'iAi erreeii riii'1'ii1-; CR.-\T-
vo1.1 no s
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(l9Sl). mer's FRANKENSTEIN AND RUN. 'l'lII'. WICRLR MAN. ihe story
AND .\lR. HYDE behind Anthony Shaffer's oc-
THE MOl\'S'l'F.R FROM IIELI. VOL -1 NO I
FORBIDDEN PLANET Retro- VOL 5 NU 2 cult masterpiece, the CITIZEN
\'0l. I NO 4 with Terence Fisher; a report
The Makiiig of I.OGAN'S RUN KANE of honor lms, includes
"The Five Faces uf George on the perils of being an extra spec! with comprehensive 1n-
in SO\'l.I.NT GRl>.l-.N;director terviews; roundtalile discussion including interviews with Saul interviews with star Christo-
Pal" career article on the great pher Lee; writer Anthony Shaf-
science ction movie maker; a john llough on lming TIII. with writer _|ohn .-\. Russo and l).iviil, Michael :\titiet!un_ I):iv-
LEGEND OF III-LLL ll()iSF.. producers Karl llardman and id lelag Goodman. William I. fer, director Rohin llardYiPro-
survey of ABC Movie of the diicer Peter Snell, and many
Week fantasy TV movies. Russell Streiner uti the making Nolan, George Clayton _]ohn-
of NIGHT OF Tllln |.l\'ll\'C son. George Pal, L. B. Abbott, others; director David Ctcrien~
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NO I
berg on RAHID; producer Mil
VOL 2 NO I Christopher Lee Career Article, DEAD; Christopher Lee on the and Dale llenessy; The Special
introduced by Peter Cushing, filming of MAN \\'lTll THE i'.lfetL\ of FLESII GORDON tun Subotsky on TIIONGOR.
; The llistory and Technique of sets the record straight on who
Fantasy Film Animation" Part with an afterword by Terence GOLDEN GUN; director .\ior-
ton lleilig on lming ONCE; did what and how. VOL G N0 HVOL 7 NOI
J by Mark Vi'nlf;interview with Fisher: French liorrur and fan- Hiking STAR WARS, twenty-
film director Paul Wendkos on tasy lms; director john l..in- EDOI: Film Poetrv" essay and
visual appreciation;KULCll.-\K \i'Ul. N0 3 three interviews with the at-
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IUY-1| "'"N'" "I Km" "l='""1\l fore tfrrrlnrt. '1'n.- .-.w~ti='.- "tit/tt'I4l n' rm.-I1 Vin
pamlmg upon his success as a (IllltlUl.
'I'ragically, his eareer is now ended. 7~~~4~* Te ~7
hmm 1.1 t'rl1Il!II|'f4\
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lflrmi rlirl ynur irii-u[:'rmrul nu I'll!-.' hassles, and so forth. So that preprntlu<'~
M.-l.\'I1'()I' lugfY1.7 tion time was well-used and t't'tntu|ttI\'.tl.
I was on |n\ w.t\' to London to work I had :1 ten-week shooting sehedule.
on the srore for I).-\\' OI Tlll-. .~\I\'I~ ht-ginning on .\Ia\' I7 through the stirri-
.\I;\I.S. .~\t the airport in l..-\_ lpirked tip mt-r. I chose San Iranriscn over .\'rw
a copy of Graham's hook to while away York (Iity [where the hook is set] to
the tenhour fligltt. In l".ngland_ I was so shoot the film ln't";n|se San l'ram"ist'o is
exeited liy the property that I phoned my moody in a way New York isn't; the fog,
agent from the London Airport and asked areliitet'ture, yery .\Iediterranean. There
him to huy it. were no live interiors, though. .'\ll of the
I talked with (lrahatn almut the possi- inside work was done at (IRS in llull\'~
hilities of making his story into a film. wood.
You see, Graham is Ilnglish. which makes \\'he|t the film is finished, and I'm
""'"" I"1I'~
him an unlikely candidate for writing a
story about .-\|nerit'an Indians. Ilut he was
enrouraging ahout a moyie project, and
working on some posbilululling and opti-
eals now [f\o\e|nher, I977], .\\'t'u~l.|tt-
hassy has a neat promotional campaign
worked out. I ean't tell you exactly how
are tne aeress to hack rround material I
Thirty-year-old William Girtller. PYW ii;-edetl for the script. \Tlien he read the the film will he sold, hut I do know that
l"'~"~"' ml lll"'l""' If Tl"? *\lI\~\'ll'OU srript. the things I'd t'l|attgt'tl i|t his hook it is to he l:lown~up to Tlhnm from Il"nnn\
lana\'isinn atul four- and six-track stereo
'15 kllll .l1|""1lYY 21 I" ll" l"llllIIl"*'5- were to his liking; in faet,lw even thought
prints will he struck [reportedly in the
I" 1' lll*"'l7"'\ "1ll\ "'31" Mllllllilv 'l'll* some of my atltlitions might have heen
new Dolhy optical sound process]. .\ lot
'~'"l"ll |"'4"l""5 I"? 1' |'' I-ll"~ (ilnll good in his original tale.
of effort is going into the fihn, which ran
kll5<'\l51ll hi5 \\'l>l'l 1'11 Tllh -\l-'\l\llT()l' ll! It-'!mt /t'i1|r1.\ 1|] rliungr-.\' it''It' mmlr?
Graham's book went to extremes that possihly he exhihitetl. in the tradition of
\I\'l'l"lWT. il5 ht fllllilwllI1\>5\-Pl'"ll\lf\l'"\ (It.()$t-'. t'.X(;()t'.\"I't*.k.\ ()t' Ttttl THIRI)
chores mi the Pi1l\l\'='. am occult thriller. l tlltl not wislt In deal witlt. t lI"l'ilIl'(l the
schetluletl for release hy .\\'CII~I'iIlI.|SSY story uniformly as a personal ordeal for KIXI) and ST.-\I{ \\'.\RS. as an e\-ent."
Pictures in I"'ehruary. The filtn eoneerns the characters directly involved with this lfhu! .\url 1|] fl/t_\'.\'|'t||[r!I1|lo[!l|'t4lIxpt'
an ancient .-\|nerican Indian demon tnani- girl. (lrahant hrought in thin s like the rinl t'_1_'/'1-t'I\' rift you zvor/t-iri_gY zvilli?
I\'ational Guard and tlte New \gork Police The prohlems witlt the makeup were
festing itself in a rnodern~day woman
I
Ilepartrnent; using dt-\'it'es like that tends trentendotts. 'Iom Ilurinan and _|ue .\Ie-
lti:l:'l9), and is based on the novel l>y
Kinney worked on the .tppli.tnce. and
linglishman Graham .\Iasterton. Girtller to untlerettt eredihility; it's like sortie of
those seienee firtion films of the fifties, the actor used lu portray the ancient In~
was usually associated with low~Intdgel
where hattalions of melt were called in to dian dentnn was literally \\'eiglttt'tl~tl<t\\'tt
drive-in quiekies, such as .'\llIl\' and in latex ruhher. The particular makeup
(lRI7.ZI.\'. Ilis in\'ol\'enn'nt with Tllli fight off invading aliens. Realism can be
took five hours to put on and two to take
.\I.~\.\'lTOU stemmed from tlte success of maintainetl without resorting to action
hi5 l'l'I-vtlll fill". Tllll l)-\\' OI" ilillll that destruys the fantasy ttItttt'pt. off earh day. There is a lilfllt srene in the
.\.\'I.\I.'\I.S, his hest work to date. Tlllu .\Iueh of the gore in the hook haslieen film, done with makeup and sperial ef-
.\I.~\.\'ITOLJ appears to have permitted eliIt\iI\Jtt'tl. We hatl two choices in making feels including the moek~womh of Karen
Tandy. created hy (iene (iriggs and Titn
Glflllff I" ll"-\"5l'lI1ll ll? '~'\1l\lH-S "I KX- the film. We eoultl have tnade a driye-in
Stnythe, which is the most graphiceffeet
Plvllllllll filITI"11ll'1ll\_!- llli '~'"ll"l5ll\"\ shocker of immense proportions, or ll
in the film. It took two-and-a-ltalf days to
illmlll "'5 .\!l""'- llllll ll"! TIP! I" 'Y"l'~' class production. The story eould have
film and lasts a minute onscreen. There
Will 1'l"Y .l"" cl-17 ll"1 1'15" PIJY5 ll heen done either way. I wanted to get
is no hluod. oozing uids, or ripping
(l"'5"" I" ll" m"\l- '~'""Pl*"l Will 1" 3"" away from the kinds of films I'd In-en do-
flesh. The way ll was done. coInpli|nent-
ple hudget of l>\'4r 51l.ll(lll.l|0U. "lf<|' ll" ing -up until that point. So I was alile to
ed hy I.alo Sehifrin's srore, achieves a
PI""ll I-"'1'" "XClll"l!""llI l>l""""~'- fittanre ahout three million dollars from
private investment groups not associated weird ethereal mood.
Gl"""5 l""'k.ZT"""d I" Ill""~\kl" One thing the audience will not he pre-
hifll l"~'E"" Will_*l"'5""'"-"Y '<"k I ll" with the studio I:\i\('t)-l_.I11lI1ISS)'l. In do-
pared for is the ending. wltirh is rom
-'\" F"\'- '5 ["51 I*"""'5- -\S_YLU\l (W ing things in this manner. I will, hopeful
SAT.-\N, \\'alS lltilllt In l97l~ "I5 'UYl* "P ly, produre a film which is ahh: to work pletely different from the one in the
hook. .\ly ending will leave the viewer in a
l"'"_"Kl\ ABBY (I974) F15 l""ll"'~\"l I better for me.
state of shock. So. if you are oriented on
l*"'5"'"c- K'~""""kY~ "I5 hes ""k "I There are other minor changes to the
Graham's finale, forget it. This finish is an
hi5 Pull"! '15 TREF- ON A My--\i_II' story. tnainly character relationships that
needed clarifieation and tightening. I end-all. Too had I ean't tell your readers
HOOK ll973l- milk _ff"' $13-000 I" ahout it. . .I'm doing some of the special
35mm ml '5l"Y- '5Uml"m_"Il l"Y'l1'"d' changed the john Singingroek chararter
[.\Iichael :\nsara| , the mortal medicine effects work on the ending now, as a inat-
"Ll 8"" Will 5'"'~' 1""5"Z Il\"W5"~\Y
man, from a husinesslnalt to a farmer. ter of fact. \\'e'\'e had prohletns in getting
The strieken girl, Karen Tandy [Susan the kind of results I'd like. and itis .1 ease
Strashergl , has a closer personal relation- ofnty own perfeetionism. I really want to
ship with the mystic tleteetiye llarry I".r- make a dent with this feature.
skine [Tony Curtis]. Who! are _\-ourfulum jilm pltmx in [hr
ll'r'n' lhrrr any tIiff|'n41I|'r.\' in pru11tu'- grnn-?
ing I/tt'_/'t'ln| i1t:lrpnizlt'rt1I_v.7 I'|n developing an idea for a science
The seript had been written and laid fietion fantasy called TIII-I ()\'l.R-
out in storyboards when .-\yco-Embassy I.()Rl)S. The first seript for it is presently
came in. They have really been a part of heing written hy Ilarry Kleiner [I~'.-\I\'-
Jeffrey Frentzen lives in Orittda, C;\lifor- T.~\STI(I \0Y.\(Jl-I, lIITI.l.I'I'I'| . and it is
nia. His Retrospect feature on director this production from the lieginning. Their
help got us from seript, through prepm- nu! ct STAR W.-\RS rip-off, if that's the
llerk IIar\'ey's C;\RI\'|\.';\I, OF SOUI.$~ current fashion of things. I'd also like to
will appear in a future issue. ductiun, and before the cameras in ahout
get hark into the aetiult-:ide\'nl.tlre genre,
by JCffl'Cy Fl'IltZCll
three months. a near-reconl. They offered
guirlance on eertain matters promotion
scripting prolilems, general: pruductiorl
and have purchased a new hook titled
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.-\l'\rr my in'g:|li\'c ruinmcms A\l")|l
S'I'.~\R \\'.\RS ((i:l :25), I was clxidml 'nd~ i
lvssly by rcznlcrs IIl('TI.LI\lIU\I$ llllll I
linln'l likr lhr film." I m~\*cr 1lI(I I iliiln'l
lilu: $I'.-\R \\'.~\KS. In I;n'l.. I cullcil il 1|
nniqnv: ;|cl1i:'\'i'||n'n| in sp:'<'i;il cl'f-us."
.\Insl irzilv lCllLI' wrilcrs u\'|.-rlnukul llml
and ZIISII l';|ilcil HI znhlrcss lIIL'I1I\I\'( to
my sprrifit crilimisins nl SI.-\R \\',\I{.\',
inSl1';l\I rnnnplziiniing ;lI)n\ll lhc Incl lh.|l I
clmsc In crilirim: the Iihn in lhc first l
plum. Tln-y nsnully sklusu.-|>pc1l lhu issnc
hy cniicnliiig llnn, yrs. S'I'.\I{ \\'.\RS i5
jun-nilc, yrs. il is llp(l'fI('I.II. ycs, ll is
mic rcpcliliun ul' cvcry .uIvc|n\|rc l'ihn
clirlir ul lhu p.isi l'iIl\' \'l'.H'\', yrs. \'l,
yes Ifnl I/mI'\ [hr I.-[ml -1 I/ilm (irnrqr
l.m'u\' mmlzwl In mu/"1', um! il'\ _/mi,"
they clmrns. .1 litany ih.n siippnsnlly in-
\ZlII(I;|Ik'5 all this svriulls l'l.m-s of S'II\R
W.-\RS, which arc 4III\'I1I\I cu-u In rnhid
I;|n;ni&'s. .\l'lvr ninking mc next lu I-.ln-n-
vzrr Srrimgr or "A|r];l" I-.llisnn_ they in-
\';|ri;|l>ly sign ufl, .\I.|y lhc l"un'c Bu
With Yon."
liui \\.\Il. lhis lypc of rlicmrir is
likcly In c|n'nnr.u;v: .nm|lu~r uml of
vrnnk Ivllcrs, .nnl I r.in'l slA( any num-
Iurlnrcs un liihn us lllI(I'I2\IIlI1\lIlI. Sn Iv!
nu: gvniirrl lu S'l .\R \\,\R.\' .nnl .nl|nil
lhul I \\-.15 (mm iiguin in ll\< I-'urrr .nul
lh.|| I h;u| /uu \\';||rliin_g _\"l'.\R \\'4\I{.\' .nul
c\'v:n saw ii mun lh.|n UIICU.
I ilnn'l lhink llu'rc's any gnan gulf
sup;ir;ning $'lI\I( \\'.\I(S' Inns ;nul S'I'.~\R
\\'i\l(S' :lvlr.n'I<>rs. hut lhr rln-lnrir .nnl
cinulimmlisin mi lwlh siilvs l\.is ])0I.ll'l'l(kl
npiniun. .\s .1 n'rl\|iir.|l iirliii-\'1-um-nl in
rlI|l1I!I.lI{lIl|_[, .\"I.\l{ \\',\I(N is rc|n.\rk.|hl1'
in in.n|y \\-;iy.\3 JIHI lhu inn-rvivws l1~.nur'
ml this I>'$\ll' .is .\lukin_;' .\"ILlI( ll'.-lI\'.\' .\I'
lrsl tn llu" :|1~ili\'.|liun, inign-nnil\' .nul
rn'uli\ily ul lIIl' l'iIinin.|kvrs IlI\'1)I\'L'lI. Ihil
lt'(IllII\|lll'- 4l"l| in lhis L'.I.\'('. s|u~ai.il cf
I1-cis, is llnl .||\r!|1I in itsvlf, Inn .i m|':IH\
uf pnrlniyilig su||1n-lliilni \\'urlh\\'l\ilc .|s Ll
fihn. It l.\ki~2 \_fYl'.lI LI!-II nf $('.ll('I\ll\\{ un
.1
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new p;u'tner. Atttlrew lloually, went he- '" >"""" "" ~""1P*""*" *I""' }'.Y7i.'lT..'I.)i /l.','l;'.,'fZ~}.,.' 'f;1'..'i,'.',l'{. ,.";;T'7iL1L,,'.'-i'
ml}
fore tlte eameras at l~1nglaud's Shepperton l" "4"""' 5l''-"00 l]"
for vast, as opposed to the
5l2"".m'
(attitttliati
um; R..n,m.| |l!llf]t1!!IS1-"l7!lHIl\lvllillll
min W, In m,"_, ,;,,m,L. I-hi. -1, uh H,
Studios. l)().\ll.\'lQUl-L is a psychological
j Tj
lttllv vl 5>lt4"-"ll" til-* 5l_~"-"ll" l<" tur-'\ |H|I|n tum/. 1/ulllytl rm1,/.;1.,;.,..I:,m.
thriller with supernatural overtones about S:rrt|'n l'V|llfl|l'[ft|7!X hm an r.\'tiIivtL
David Ballard. played by Cliff Robertson. east. of wlurh half ltad to he l-reut'h-(I:ut- SIAIYYII L-'
linvu/1 1! /IHVIIIY, !un{i|\\' am! .\'rirt|t| /felfllll
subtly trying lo drive ltis wife l)ominit|ue
(Jean Simmons) temporarily into a men-
tal instittttion so he rau tlelye into the
atlian.
Says Suhotsky: l'\-e had the srript for
this picture for years. lt was one of the
last ones frotn the .\mieus days. hut .\lax
W if
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55
Shooting begins February 28 on what witlt giant slits along the facefront that that I didn't have to worry about on a
promises to he the biggest science fiction sees into no recogniI.;tble face. The Cy- theatrical film like ST.-\R \\'.-\RS. Space-
epic ever produced for American tele\*i- lons destroy the solar system. hut a group sltips anti detailed tnodels have to be built
sion. Bttdgeted at $7,000,000, G.~\L.~\C- of human colonists escape the holocaust, on larger scale, just so the viewer can tell
TIC.-\ will begin as a three-hour movie to searching through space for 1| legendary what they are. l'erspecti\'es also have to
he broadcast on .-\BC-TV in May, witlt thirteenth planet called Earth." The Cy- be simplified. Stars and starfieltls propor-
two additional two-hour sequels lined-up lons get wind of the colonists escape and tionally must he bigger and brighter: in
for production sltould tlte pilot special be chase after lltem. Refuge frotn the Cylons some cases, the stars have a tendency to
a success. Universal is producing the film, is found for the humans in a gigantic disappear because of tlte contrast element
and is being careful not to conjure any space cruiser Galactica, belonging to oth- and tonal resolution onscreen. The scope
allusions to ST.-\R WARS, although it ap- er human colouials. The duration of tlte of the prodttction will in many ways rival
pears obvious tltat the only reason G.~\- film describes the colonists journey to S'l.'\R \\'.'\RS in ambition. yet there is a
L.-\C'l"lC.~\ is on the slate at all is due to Earth in Galactica, with battles against time factor to consider. The incerdibly
the success of Lucas' film. john Dykstra the Cylons and other variotts t'xtraterres- complex shots in ST.-\R WARS which
has been natned line producer, and will trial fiends. The perils described in the took weeks to do, simply cannot he done
be in cltarge of all special effects to be script are many.includingalaser battle itt in GAL.-\(I'li|(i.-\ in light of how much
created at his lndistrial Light K" Magic space, encounters with a black hole, and time there is, althottgh I ltave learned
facility. lixecutive producers are Glen .-\. an adventure in an alien City of .\iirrors. sotne shortcuts in effects since ST.-\R
Larson attd Leslie Stevens. Larson recent No cast has been signed as yet, but \\'.-\RS, which can he used to an advan-
ly created .-\llC's ll.<\RD\' BOYS/l\';\1\C\' Stevens wants Lorne Greene to portray tage in G.'\I..-\CTlC.~\." Dykstra concedes
DREW l\l\'S'l'ERll-LS. Stevens was creator the leader of the hutnan colonials. .~\l- that. due to television's need to maximize
and producer of 'l'lll'l OUTER Lll\ll'l'S, though not yet in production, Dykstra quality of product to amount of money
SE.-\RCl*l and the ill-fated INVISIBLE has already completed altnost all of the spent, he will employ process photogra-
.\l.~\N with David l\lcCallum. Larson did film's grandiose special effects. at a cost pity and other trick tnethotls to achieve
tlte original script for G.-\L;\C'l'lC.-\, pre- of SI ,O0l),OO. Some of the makeups will the look of what we dont have on hand."
viously known as S'l'.~\R WORLDS, and be designed by Rick Baker and Carlo Other effects already filnted include
both he and Stevens are presently prepar- Rantbiddi. llaker is reportedly working on highly complicated blue screen teclt-
ing the two-hour sequels in script form. the conception of tnany alien head make- niques merely pioneered in ST.-\R \\'.-\RS.
Three other scripts are in preparation in ups, including the evil Cylon masks. While llis extraordinary Dykstraflex equipment
the event ABC decides to bring G.~\l..-\C- most of G.-\|..-\C'|"lC.-\ will he shot on and computer registration processing
TIC.-\ hack as a regular feature in their sound stages at Universal, some location units will be responsible for the ultrzt-real-
i978-79 lineup of special programs. work may be done at a futuristic-looking istic effects. The interior control room of
Larson's script has a basic science-fan- shopping center ilt l.ong Beaclt. the Galactica crttiser will be an accom-
tasy storyline, but the main appeal of Dykstra, as producer, is pleased with plished integration of both full-si~/.ed and
GAL.-\C'llC.<\ will probably stem front the latitude of control he ltas in relation miniature sets. Several special effects
the special effects work. The story am- to the variety of special effects work and shots will utilize a moving camera.
biguously lakes place either in some dis- live-action drama. Because the lack of Despite U|tiversal's claim that G.-\L.-\C-
tant future or predating mankind on adequate time to prepare storyboards to 'l'lC.-\ meticulously avoids similarities to
Earth. Colonial planets in some far away be circulated throughout the production ST.-\R W.-\RS, the parallels still seem to
solar system fall victim to a group of in- team, the instant liason between Larson, exist. Thankfully, the studio was wise in
terplanetary terrorists called Cylons, who Stevens and Dykstra, who has a concep- packaging the combined talents of Lar-
are described as physically puny aliens tion of both optical work and story ele- son, Stevens antl Dykstra to helm the pro-
without acute senses of touch, taste, hear- mcnts, cuts down on wasted time. ject. .-\t least people with some idea of
ing, or sight. They must wearamultitude just as we used the 70mm negative where to take this kind of story, with
of metallic costuming and electronic format on ST.-\R \\'.-\RS, G.'\L.~\CTlC.~\ is substantial technical anti dramatic back-
hardware to amplify their ability to per- being shot in 35mm for reproduction on grounds attd considerable taste, have com-
ceive their environment." The Cylons' your average television set. .-\s well, tele- plete control overit.
helmets are deliciously frightening designs vision presents certain limitations visually _]effrey Frent-/.en 8: _]ordan R. Fox
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The space ark Galac-
tica. tlllt n/ Ralph
_. I McQuarn'c s pn~-pm-
duclimt pn|'nl|'ngs
.\; fur the prnposrd
Unitvi-rrnl n~luvi.n'rm
.4, / series 6.4L.-ICTIC.-I.
tn a related story,
Univcrsal's proposed
television series of
BUCK ROGERS has
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back burner" and
assigned to producer
Leslie Stevens for
further develop-
ment. Story editor
rm... David Gerrold has
,.,. reportedly left the
.2)
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the pilot script with
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7 executive producer
Andrew Fenady and
purchasing nine oth-
ers from writers
.-A such as D. C. Fon-
tana. J. Michael
Reeves, Tom Swail
and Dick,Morgm.
l'l..'\Xl-QT Ul" 'l'lll'l l)l.\'()S=\l'R$ is in
tho lnw, luw lnnlgrt t'l.|.ss, hut it spurts :1
lmrslc of tllI\US.|\lfS Jllll 1| rt'|n;|rk:|lil<'
mnnunt nli ;|niin.itiun. 'l'lic l'il1|i||i:|kt-rs
h;ul littlv: niuin-y, but thvy tlitl l\.l\'L' timt.
.iml spcnl smnc l:'| IIl<ll\lll iluing llll s|:c-
Cllll t-ffcrts .ilu-r li\'u ;|tlltII\ pliutngnipliy
was &'0t1||)l|:|1'tl in _]\ily l,I','li.
Tho titlc, ilulilu'r.|tt-ly cxplicil. sums
up thv plul. .\ igrnup nf fiiliirv .\|mt't' tru-
\'v:lv:rs rnish lands on thv |Il.lt\Ll .nul, with
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liltlc l\0])L'<lfft'St\|l',tt1\ll lt-urn tn sur\'i\c
in .in l'll\'il'lItIIl|l'lll \\-hirh is inst clmrk full
nl' \linus.n|rs. iiwliuling thr main \'ill;iin, :1
ilrliglitlnlly umthy try:||nms;|nrns rcx.
'l'hv ntlritiun mtu JHUIIH; lllt $\ll\'i\l>f!v is
high until llicy l(.lflI In c<|upur.ilv: tn \lr-
lvntl tliciiisclvcs. Shunning .| put s|mt'c
t';i\';ilry Yl't'\lL, tho film lr;i\'cs tlu-in nn
thc plzinrt. rvsignul In living nlll llltlr
ll\'l.\' lhcrc.
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.'In- ' lnitligcl .iml from thc |'il|mn;|kcrs' Lurk u|'
cxpcriciirc. ll is 2| first luzitilrc film fur .il
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tiun is pcrl'ur|m'l In l)mu,;l;|s lh~s\\'irk,
nuw working on l);n\l'nrth's -|_l4\l'-l(;I\l>l.;
Thu juh nfcninpusiting llu: inudcl din~
usznirs with llu: livv nrlinn was lillctl by
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kus tlcsignt-1| must of thc Cu|II|)I\SlltS.
'l'l\1'y\w:iit tn llIt' \';|squc1. Rncks. (I;|lilnr-
niu, lncutiun t\\-n \u-cks Jhcaid of this livv:
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4" . - nrtiun crcw, pifkillg zinglcs .|nd prvcisr
('IIHlL'Tll si:tups fur thv: scqut-iiccs in \\~hit"h
lhc LllI\US1|lll' wurc to .|ppt~;ir.
l.i\'t' 2l('lll)I\, umlcr |imd\|t'v:r-tlircrlur
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Iumcs K. Slit-.|, was linishcml in ulmut
lhrcc \\':":ks. 'l'hcn work l>t'g;m on lllt
tU|Y\Pt)lll'S in the ;ll1lII\;|lit1I\ studio. .-\\ip-
pcrlv: p|:rl'oriiu'il lhc mzittc wurk. ITlLll('lIL'(l
'- the zmimuliun inodv:ls' lighting and pur-
e-\i _\,
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_ spcrlivc to that in thc live zirtinn hark-
gruund plutcs. zind tlitl cnlur |';|l('l\lllg lic-
twcvn mini;il\m- sct pieces and hark-
ground |1l;it|: iinugcs. llc also unilnutcd
the stnithiumiiniis and triccrulnps sc-
(|lu'i\rcs. _|im l)1ll\rtIfll1 pmvitlctl fuur
inzittc paintings for thc film. No distribu-
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timi plans lmvc yut ln:|:n l1;1llZCllft)fllIC
Cinrniu llymunit-s |)l'l>(l\lC\ltH\. I
by S. S. Wilson
Top: ,-I l_\'V|l1l||\1H||S and slrgnxuumx, .\'n-1| in
lL.~I.\'l;1' OI" TIIE l)L\US.-|UR.'. .H|'ddIr: .~|
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tinn 1l1':1I straittht 11\\:1\' \\'l1i1l1 1110:1111
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Yet j mm
lIllI\ i11 fur $1111-11' time. (I0ltt1nl1i:1
tl1'l1t
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tival foraslturt entitled l);\\'I)Rl'l.'\.\lS. and 1lire1t11ri:1l ])ft)l7l(III 1l1:1t I l1:11l to n-li1'f1'11 1111*/T1111?
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Sole's first picture, I)I'.I~'.I' Sl.l"ll'.l. ran lmpe \\'11rke1luut. 'I'l1e111urtler1'r's 1n111i\':1-
I guess linilgct only :1II11\\'e1l11s
so. 'II11'
In!" l'ill |""l1ll"\$ llllt- I0 I15 Stlflflll tiun is :1 little woolly hut it doesn't tli1ni11-
to provitle him with one set of pants, as
Pl1Yl\I>){Yl\Pl\ll' Iitllllt-Ill lII\1l ll W115 tlul I0 ish t|1e sl1111'ks.
llilil? he is 11l1\'i<1usly :1 big man we had to :1111l
ll\lS t>l\\lI\llY Cl\1\I'R1' lltl l\i>' l1\\'k'f. It'I1_\' 1/11'_/11111 x1*11'11
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its str1>1\g- get lIttlI1 special ordered. his idea 11f S11
Richard K. Rtisetilierg. l>v:r.1111e the pro- Because tlte Cl\\ll'Cl\ was :1t
1l1e11. Catherine [tl1en111tl1er| heing :1
tl1e pt-e-stain went wildly over the top.
ducer of his tl1ir1l film. (lO.\Il\lUl\'ION. est
I1\1t we l1:11l to let l1i111 get on with it.
.-\.\lI-ZRICAN SOAP foII11\\'ed l)IiI-'.I good Catholic \\'ol1l1l11't h:1\e re-married.
'Il11'.r1"1*111' 111/11'r1* .-lI1'1'1.1lru11gI1'.1 1I11'r111
SI.IlI'1I' and Sole is now working on a Families went to Clturcli as :1 group; :1ll llnw
z11u.\' 1/1:11 r1n111'?
fourth film, another psycliological thriller the relatives would get together. .-\n1l 1'1 q11|'11' .\'1ru11_q.
wards horror as it offers so many varied these people rang me up. I didn't pursue
opportunities. C()l\I.\lUl\'ION is a "kiIl ll shocks, a11d I'm glad. I went to see a them. Estelle l;1rsons wanted to play
me, kill me, and have fun" picture. My cheap mafia movie once and no one
blinked at the violence, but when one of Aunt Alice but the Screen Actors Guild
next, GR.~\\' RH.-\ISOD\'. is a different wouldn't let l1er do it o11 a deferred pay-
psychological drama with more character the characters spat, the audience gasped.
We are so jaded toward violence these
ment basis until they read the script and
dcvelopment. I made DEEP SLEEP as a
days that I wanted to say, lley, when liked it. By that time. it was too late fur
start in tl1e movies. Tax shelters were Estelle. But we made tI1e first union film
around a11d wl1ere I live there are lots of you kill someone, it hurts." I purposely
used parts of the hody that an audience in history on deferred payments, as the
lawyers and bankers, so I scroungcd the Guild let us continue. BrooI1es mother is
money, just to get started. It's been a could relate to. When Aunt Annie gets
a friend ofmine, and after this she turned
long haul with COl\lMUNIOl\I. The film stabbed in the foot. well, everybody has
stabbed his toe at some stage. And when down .'\UDRliY ROSE and did FRI-l'l'f\'
has been around for I8 months and al- B/\B\.
Dominick gets hit repeatedly in the
mouth with a hrick. a lot of people have What an your plans after filntirig
phobias concertiing their mouth. At the GR.-I I Rll.-I!S()I)Y7
Mike Childs and Alan Jones are our Lun- I wa11t to write some more screenplays
don-based correspondents. Virgin Islands I-ilm Festival a child psy-
chologist asked me if she could show the with Rosemary Ritvo. \\'e have one idea
at the moment. a black comedy about the
' ' lm at one of her seminars because she
Medici family. I1 involves lolts of stab
by wanted her children to realize that viu-
lence isn'1 fun like it's portrayed on TV bings, poisunings and death!
I
Alan cop shows. I think I put across the feeI-
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uvrr, resulting in :1n ttitdiscluscd shtick
cntling." Unitcd Artists will rclvt-;1s1: lull: in
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Weve captured the rebel ship. This is no ordinary rebel ship. (WHEEZEl)
Darth. It's obvious they're here The last time I felt such a disturbance
to rescue the princess. in the lorce was when I connected
my respirator to a blender by accident.
It took forever to get the
granola out ol my visor.
the crew on that film would eventually
find themselves on ST.-\R WARS and I'd
got to know them really well. One of the
makeup chaps forwartletl my name to Gary
Kiirtz when he found out what they want-
ed for the niovie. Chewliacca was the only
part I was offered ziitd I took it. The Sin-
Iiatl movie was jttst movement. so lprefer-
retl the Chewbacca | ) art as it iiito Ited
more. But I don't consider myself an actor
at all.
Itlml tilmtil Hi: [mm [Iii rvlt has E
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Peter Mayhew was born May I9, I944,
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and I did not feel so alienated from my siir-
d.
a gun I more
.. Faster
and I 1 - ' L ' I.
intense. Those were "
rouaillllnlgiss up'.m.0" 0/Uwfm? his actual directions. At one stzigehc lost
I'm not .a science fiction .fan ,but I love his VOICE and up joked about gcmng two
hoards xed weeach with their own horn
adventure films and I Invcd it. Ive seen it
.
on op and ..|_~a",.. chalked on one and
four times now and I still see things in it Mom lmcnsc," chalked on he "then He
21:: Igsscll lilffnrci some ts ank; also told,me to stand up straight a lot and
C Pena 7 ma C me m in act more like a Princess.
"aver elm" dld "mm" I Can '"'_"b" D0 on Hiitik ou CHIl7fllIlIl'(l to your
hem bung hm good of Crsc' (hm 5 hm rolc as iiiucli as yo: would hum" liked?
maillly IO the fan III. we didnil 5 he George didn't really have the character
spcc'?l.cccIs w go mm Mm we hugm well defined. He gave me a lot of freedom
the finished movie would be good, but not and rcsP0nsibimy_ The rs day I me
that good. When I saw the boxoffice re- Gcorgc he said that 1 could chmgc my dia_
tums from the States it really shook me. loguc mat I [ch unwm,-unable saying_ In
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about
Whatbeen the sequel?
asked do it and I mink [hey fact, I changed very little. Now when I see >
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Kenny Baker math: his film tlt-but i|\
ClRCl'$ OF HURRORS in I960, playing
a t'lu\\'n, while ctnplnyctl in llilly Smart's
(Iirrns. llis small si/tc, unly 3 ft't't 8 inches
tall, math: hitn uniquely suitctl fur thc part
of R111)? in ST-\R WARS. Burn :\\lg\tSt J4,
I934 in llirminghatn, ltal-u.-rji>i|1t'tl a tour-
ing \'arit'ty act t'allt'tl Bnrtnn l.t'stcr's
.\1itl_t;tts" at the aigc nl Hi, amt has hcctt in
s|tu\\'|msi|tt'ss <:\'t'r sinrc. In I960, whilc
playittg l)upt-y in Snn\\' \\hitt' and the
St-vt-n l)\\'arfs ()n lct-," hc mct his cnrrt-nt
-4l"'*"\' l5"'""' Fl-/"" *'/"1"":Y""II"'" /-ll! H" srarctl. If \vt"tl tlunc it again it wtntltl ha\'t' |tu\\'luttsit\c:~> partner jar}; lur\'is. a tlwarf.
Ihr [mutt $1." 111'!/| .\ItnL' Ilmmll. [Right /I/tnlu [X-tn m,,n- [um hm T -W fri,;|\|t-mt 'l'm;t~tltt-r they fnrmctl musical-1"uinctly
a
t"'l'.\"'L'/ll /5'77 -"1/I l-"'HIHr\>F"-\' 5'7" 1-""" that wt"tl splat aigainst the wall and tht'"tl
7 '7' *
act callctl Thu .\lini-'l'unt-s," and ltavc pur-
l"'""""1/
""* 4 """ '2" b ha\'t' to ltrint: in Ruhhy Bcttstm and _]nt|it'
Fnstcr! 'l'ht' _t1arl1;n1t tlistmsal st't'nt' was ftm
for twu hours antl tltt'n it tun hut antl hur-
fnrmrtl in llritain. l'l\|rupt' and I\'urth .-\f-
rira. l"n|ln\\ini.g ST.-\R WARS. Bakvr ap-
pvarvtl in (ivnv Rut|dt'nl>trry's $ll-.(I'l'Rl-1
hn\\' l saitl a lut uf it, I wish ltl thatn;t'tl ing. \\'t' \\1'rt' wttarintt \\'tt-suits untlcr uur antl starrt-tl in thc film \\'().\lll.l.\'(i l*Rl'll-,,
ntnrv. llttt tl\at's lI\t' just ht-int; strict with tt\t[fi[5_ lt-trr .\l:tyltt'\\' [Cl\1'wharc;t| just which alsu fcaturcs the tlcbut of his charm-
mysclf. Thv tmly thing ymi tnt||tln't it-ll frivtl upin that suit. ing wife l-lilccn.
from thc script was thc stylt: and that was lt'!m! tvux [hr mn.\'I 1/1:/']'ituI! Xtt'tlt fur
nnt" thing that (it-urgr t"u|nmunit'att'tl rvsally you In .\'/mot. lluzu:litl_\'utt_g'r1 [hr //url uj R_I)_"?
' wrll tu all of us. For cxatnplt. hc w.nttttl It was all difficult really. :\t"tin_\; is pm- l think an agcttt uf mint: gut wintl uf it
thr tlialt-_i1ut' rcatl straight. l.il;r: "l tlmuttltt tcntlinig. Yuu haw tn usc pnittts tit R-ft-r. and fmtntl nut they were lunking fur a
l rtt'ui1tti1.t't| your foul stt'nt"h, 'l'arkin." cnn: like an tttiltappy lt>\'t' affair anti that small guy. Thcy uffcrcd mc tho part. hut
Not thruwn away lilif l W35 \>Tl\!l"1\ll t~!tl- sort uf thing. \\'t'|l, l tlnnt knuw what it's when l wnrk l ha\'c to runsidcr my part-
' int: ttt ah: "\\ht'n l ramc on lmartl, yntt likv to \vatt'l\ a planut whirh is my ltutnt: runtinut.-tl pagc DU, cultnnn 1
kttmv. l thuuglit. thv stnvll, \\'hu is that?" living hluwn up. Thv fact that all l'm hunk-
Gcurtgc tlitln't want us to chuat likc tltat. ing at is a chalkctl t'ir<'|t' tnakcs it \\<:rs::. .'\l-
Gn fur hrnkc. . .ant| I wont fur hrnkv. su, y<u|rt' untlvr trctnvntlutts prt-ssttrc. lt' lNTER\'IlIW BY
l\'t|.\ fl ttI:ttt\'t Iltr |'rtlt'rtlt'mt [41 gujnr II nut just a rasc uf uffinq your lincs hut .\1lKE (Illll.DS R .-\I.Al\' JONES
j|t:wtt'Ir /unIu.\\' 11]//tram/t ./ that thc >015 haw tn hi rt'pairt'tl antl t-xplu-
(ivnngc wantvtl In tit a film ht" \\'antctl siuns n'ti\;\.;1'tl and anytltimt thunagctl rc-
Kruttv Hukrr (fr/I) mu! /tit /I||rlt|4V juik I'ur:t't,
tu st-t-. Gcurgc and Gary Kurt! |tit"kt'tl up a ]>l;|t-t-it [f thy rt-~t;it;, it/Iv playrtl lltr (.'Iti-~! jinn: in S'I'.-IR W.-IRS.
l\l\\'S]l;t|lL'l mic \tntlay tn tn srr a |nu\'it' STAR l1'.-IRS IItm'_;'t'1tttI[_\' tunx guirtg In /Ilrm ll rituiiml nig/|It'IuIt tn! ktmtrti u.\ "I'h-'
nuthim; that thcy \\'.|lIl\'ti tn
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"il"'/ H1" ""4/H l"|1 |l'11ll\\'-l"ll'll Ill" wnultl start up as wt" rt's\nnul lmws aftrr
"""'l1 '""\''- 5" hr '"h' his mu tltv |1rcst'|ttatitm nf thc tnrtlals in the first
Tin" t-/it-mi.\'Ir_\ /n'I;t-rt-rt _\'nu_ Iwml am! |m_
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ttmrk nr mtluml? tlrt--lup in lhr ttr.\'1 /ilnt?
(i1'~>tt:\'\'-t~'l ant'n\'tt1l>Il't1i1'rv.t|w lhrrv \\'t-ll, I cnttltl marry Luku, hut il' t mar- ' t
nf us lt)gt'||tt'r. .\ppart'ntlt' tht-rc wt'rt' rivtl ilatt I think that wmthl ht mutt intt'r-
annthcr thrvv i|t vast wv t|it|n't work. lntt vstimg. tnnrvsn frum thc puint nfvivw that
at ttu timr \\'t>\tlt| it ha\-1' ht't'n mix antl \\-t' wt'r1' always st'rt*an\int: at each utht'r. I
match. Wt tlitln't t.(<t alum; inst like: that. tan also say that I nt'\'cr want tn wcar
\\t' tarvfully psycltvtl varh utltrr nnt. llarri- lltuSt' hairy varphnnt-s again. l alsn don't
sun ttsvtl tn yvll at int" furnnt ht'itn1ahlt- lu want Leia to be su straight nuxt titnv. Nut
tlt't'i\lt' wlwrt to rat and .\lark anti l ttstal tu ht'l|tlt'ss. ur \'irtimi1.t-it, hut tho start of girl
sin: 'l'\' jintglrs tu_i;t'tl\cr. . .lmt with s||s|ti- who lusvs hur passpurt nn the >p;tr<'t"raft.
ciun. It ttmk HS ahnut a\\'t~t'k to tlt't"ith' t-x- li'Itt'n tlitl you xrr [hr rout/Ilt'I|'tI film
artly what (iv:ur_|;~: saw in thc thrcc uf IIS _/'ur1I|:'v/Yrv! Iimr?
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Yuu 1/it/n'! u.\'t' u \'l|mI girl. llt'n' I/ttn' tlit|n't sci: all the spcrial t'fft't'ts until a
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'l'ht- t'll;\.\'|l\ crttssiitg was thirty ft~t't antl though l was sn t"lnst' to it I cuultl stw" and
what is so aitnoying is that ttltilnatrly yuu ft't'l the tnagir it prutlttrtwl. I t|itln't kntt\\'
can't \'\'t'n sm: that it is mt. Wt only tlitl
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need three of me O do il in mt
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I: lIt'n' urtylltirtg not in Nu" film that "k'~'l) unlsl slim 'l5" "l9_l:)0:
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you would lilterl to ham seen incltulvll? Born tn New \ork in Rick and
Thc are who you don sec in the [i_ his family moved to CU\lI\2l, (.ahforma two
na| Hm of he mm_ but naming has gum. years later where he spent_h|s formative
ma regnh years. He developed a keen Interest in the-
"am. you bu." appmm.;.d fu, STAR
WARS Idon- mink it-S u mismkc
atrical makeup and fantastic pl\ysiogno~
mics at a ra_tl|cr young age and continued
Tcmavc|y_ I
to work thllgently at hts hulihy _of mask
to do a sequel long as-S done TIL -|-he
as
science fiction market has hardly been tap- maklllg llmng ll lf""_;i' Wall? Rlfk l"ll'
ed a_|oh at :\rt Cloke} lrotlut trons tn I968
pcd ye. The ms I heard was that Gcnrgu
while he was sttll tn high scl_\ool,_antl he
would write the story but not direct it. It Soun dc-velopctl close ft-ietnlslitps with such
would he a completely new storyline. I'm artisans as _]im llanforth, David .-\llen, and
not even sure if l-ox has an option, Doug lleswick who introduced him to pn
Would ST.-IRLOCK have lmppt'm'zl if it fessional techniques for making masks antl
hadn't been for STAR ll.-IRS? doing fantastic forms of makeup. llis first
No. This is a sad thing. I've been offered major untel rt a'|ng
k" tn
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'1 was th e
alotn f science f ietton
' f'ltms. b ut one l iasto '
construction of the elaborate costtttnc for
be so careful and make sure the money is I969 low-lmdget feature.
()C'l'.\l\l.-\l\', a
there to do it well. l'm particularly involv- and he was soon creating his own masks
ed in STARLOCK due tn the fact that and facial appliances for merchantlising
Gordon Hessler and l co-wrote it. The ori- during the Halloween season.
ginal script was by john Starr and it was In 1971, Rick came into his own with
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impractical as a working draft. The Slar- his creation of the apt" suit and makeup for
l7k chafing '5 in fa" v\mP"?lli\. hut we SClll.OCK!. John l.andis' spoof of horror
9371" hc accused 9|. Pli!E"l5m 35 me QTY l5 films, which was soon followed lay the cre-
5 l-37 Tcmovcd f\'m he 0Yilli"ll- live atitm of a two-lit-adetl gorilla suit fora typ-
found superb locations. suggestive of other
worlds. in the south of France that noonv
solar Iwqnt to lu_rth~'rmv
has diwv=r=d_-
it-.11 .\n> film. Tm-1 'rnt.\'(; \\'n"n 'r\\'o
n|~:.-\ns. .'\s ma HS that film \\'LlS. Rick's
hizarrc coslttme creation was a sight to lie-
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five and hc attended elententary schools in
\ ~ ~ . San Fernando. lie didn't go to college. l
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registered and decided tltat wasn't what I
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into the movie business soiiieltow."
Like all other ttotable animators work-
ing in Ilollywuotl today. Doug startetl ottt
by producing his own 8mm stop-motion ~.
home movies. Ilis first real contact was ]im
Danfortli in I966 wlto referred him to .-\rt G *.lgL~>.
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Clokey Prothietioiis, a familiar training
ground for many S\op>muti0n animators,
including Daiifortli himself. During his four
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years at (Ilokey's, Doug worked on a series
of sixty-five GUMBY films and eu-animat- _
ed aboitt half of them. Ilis tlecisioii to free-
lance after leaving (Ilokey's resulted in his
collaboration with Riek Baker on several
lm projects. sv
In I970, Doug went to work at Cascade
under the supervision of Phil Kellisun and
Tim Baar, and tlitl occasional work over at
Gene \\'arrens Excelsior Pictures. It was
during this period that Doug f()\||](I I\i|11cIf
on the set of I-LICSII GORDON anti work-
ed with \\'ah Chang on an iiiipressive stop-
motion etltieational film entitletl DINO-
SAURS, 'I'lIli TERRl|ll.I-1 LIZ.-\RDS. Wah
built most of the inodels and Dung ditl
about 80% of the animation. a hefty task
that spanned a period of about eight
months. Reeciitly, Doug has been involvetl
in a variety of projects. Ile built the iniiiia-
lllt'L submarine usetl in 'I'lll'l l\I.~\N I"ROl\I
.1\TL/\.\"I'I5. createtl the (Iantina bantl
heatls for ST.-\R \\';\RS. and worketl on the
soon-to-be-releasetl IL;\Nli'I' OI 'IllI*'.
I)I.\'OS.'\llRS with stop-motion ftlmmakers
_]im .-\upperle and Steve C"/.erkas. Ile is pre-
sently tlevotitig his time and talent to _]im
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Danfortli's 'lI.\II'lG.-\'I'li. and there is a
strung possibility that he will be assisting
_]im on the animation a wish that Doug
has harlioretl for a long time.
l.aine I.iska is a talented stop-motion
animator whose television work reflects his
air for character animation. Ile is hut one
member of that iiiicrocosm of professionals
duing their frame-liy-fratne thing in the
network of Ilollywooil commercial liottses. I.
Ile was born iti I950. One of the extraortli- ' '
nary things about Laine is the fatt that he
never attentletl any institutions of liiglter
gtlufuliun M111 glmgb [() r;'I\' rm M5 ;||1\\~m-k_ I.nt'm' Lt'sIm'x gnu!-like Ctirtliiiit alien, our of/'ot1r '11 buill for Iltr S1'qlltYlCt.
making ti living for liitttsclf rather early iii
life. "I started animating professionally in really stood-out like sortie of the other ]],,w ,[,',] W," gr, hu.,,h,|.,/ in 5-r__|R
I97I zifterlreturnetl from military ser\'ice. ones." Iierg atltls: I tlitl two of them, t|*_.|k_e;; i
I tveiit to work on a short etltteatiotial film only one of which got ittto the filitt. It's [ruin-,~; 1)-uni; _\|m,_-H mm nu. Hwy WK.
at Casratle l'ietures untler the super\ision the one with eyes on either siile of its IIt';t(I. trmkjng fur nmktup at-li;_< M, M111 4., (11,;
of Ihil Kellison. \\'itli a gootl recoiitittetttlar It wasn't really .i tiiask. it was more like a stuff that was tlone in Iinglantl. Ile gave
tion by Davitl .-\llen and with ;i lot of help big liantlpuppct. It looketl like a lizitutncr- George my tiatne antl I went to IIAI with
it I\lI'l|C(I into four aiitl a ltalf years of heatl shark ZIINI was tloue from a Ron Cobb my portfolio ;||\tI lalkcil to him anti pro-
steatly work. Saitl_]on Berg of laiitte: Ile's ilesign. It appears iti eloseup. Tliere was tlttcer Gary Kiirtz. It turnetl out that I was
very fast antl very good." really a lot ttiore to it. \\'e shot a lot of one of the Itisl people they talked to. 'I'liey
l.aine is tttost notetl for his animation of stuff with it. atttl I tIon't think you roulil hatl seen just about every artist iti town
the Swiss .\Iiss eoiiimerrials done at CI(I really tell exactly what it was without a that tlitl effects makeup aiiil appliatices.
aml a oiie-sliot recreation of Speedy .-\lka- longer cut. I tlon't think that was the pat- lt'|~rrn'I 1I|i'_v lIlU||V(' 1|] _\-our It'll!/i on
Seltzer with a retnarkahle fitlelity to tltc ing George wanteil to use for it. antl that's I\'I.\'(, I\'(),\'(i?
original that was tlone at Swift-Cliaplin in why it's in there so briey. The other one Itu/rt-r: Dennis ntentionetl to tlieiu that I
the Il:'ills. IIe's worketl on the Green Giant l tlitl was just a skull-heatletl guy. \\'hit'h was KI.\'(i KONG. This was before the film
village antl Itas recently createtl a stop-mo- was just a rubber mask. was releasetl, sometime in Noyetnber I976.
tion cliaracter for Stroh's Beer. :\l\tIIIlL'l "5t>IIll'\iII \\'lll> ltullltl IN lt1'I1lil>I\\'tl i so there really wasn't any publicity about
one of his contributions to film fantasy Rob IIottin_ Ile was Rick lI.tker's .issiI:tttl me at the titne.
was his remotlification of the Great God anil eertainly contribiitetl to the Cantitta They saw my work, aiul (ieorge and I
Porno iii I"l.I1SlI GORDON. Ile is preseiit- seqiteiice. There was rell) 1| ""111 ltlien that talketl at Ieiigth about the (Iantina st-l
ly creating aliens for (i.\I..-\(I'II(I.4\. Rick sciilpteil. lt_hatl :i big csposetl brain qttence and the tlifferettt alien concepts. |
Stop-motioii animators .Ion Ilerg aittl with a terrilic wise ohl man eliaracter on \\ e Iiotli hatl a lot of ftiii being very enthus-
Phil Tippett, ititcrviewetl elsewhere this is- its fare. Iiecause of another commitment. iastic about the film. Ile showetl iiie
sue for their work on the eliessgame se< Rick was not able to complete it. so Rob aroitiitl Intlustrial l.ight &' .\Iagir. tolil me
quenee in S'l'.-\R \\'.~\RS. also eontribtttetl came in. Rick tlitl half of it, tlteti Rob tII(I what he wattteil, antl asketl me to submit a
makeups for the Cantina sequeiice. Says the other ltalf and iiiatle .i nioltl of it. Iii bitl. I went home. figuretl it up. antlcallPtl
Tippett: I worketl oti four or five tlc\'ilish- the picture, I think its in the backgroitiitl it in. But I tlitln't hear front them.
looking things. I ilon't tltittk any of them and a little out of focus." I started work on another picture ('1|IIClI
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Lainr Ijika (1-(mill [mm righl) pi-4-ks mil uflhr
Imc/I uj um" u! lliviilimsIn-rn'u1rd null ;IIu_\-mi in
1I|i- mmlimi Kll]|Il'IlL'|' 1 mkv Sumr iiir--l-[inn
[mm (iv-irgr Iluru. (_u'im|1I_l'rm|| ll-11). .\l:|!iV!_Q in-
! pn<iI|'nn an I'I|iI 'I'i1-/ml (Iv/1), n|'zIri!lg .1 inw-
mil/'|.<I: um_vk_ Kim hilkiulmrg (]I|!l_1!!IUlll) mul
I)/mg If-aixrirk (right). p!u\'r'ng IIH4 1|! hix hug-
r_\'<d nnI!lS!|!.i.
makcup. Sincv wr unly hail six wv:i'ks aml a \\'l'Yl'\\'"ll "1'k llllll l "1-"l" 1 -I "1-|~*"l"'"* llml elnv?
limilvsd l1ull_i;v:l, wv (l)\ll(l not tlll anything ilnrlinn in-ml Ilu!.'i'r: l knnw nnv story that l ran lcll
oulslamling or rulnpliralvd. 'l'hv:y wi'n- all l!'/ml mull-riuI.\ rm-rr I/lfllll-1!!\ lll|l|Il' H/.' ynn almlll. llmn; llcs\\'irk. l.ainr Li.ska._]un
hasically slil-rnhhrr masks, so il was jusl a Ilv.\'n-1}-/.~.' .\ll ihu In-ails lur lhv halnl llcn; and lhil 'l'i|>pi-u \\'crc all wvarinu lln'
mallvr nf l11\\'l|Ig \hi' ahilily lu Sk\ll|)l and rmnlm \\'\'rv mailc unl nl' lalcs lnnn llw masks in lhc (Ianlina haml L'l>ll1ln| almn;
an ahilily Inmakcmuhls.'l'ln-y all hail lhal same mulil. They haul snrh lnugv lmllmns wim <um- |l|l)Ll\ll'|lUll scrn-l.n'ii-s than
ahilily. Thc l;Ill>\\'lI.(lg$ lhal lhry lackcil in lirails ihai wu n~i|il'm'rul lhr lalvx will! wurkcil fur ll..\l. 'l'his mask was a mlcsiqn uf
doing sumvll\in_i; of that snrl, l km-w all gau/.c. 'l'hc l.ll\'X llill nul ha\'v lu lw vcry mim- |h_|| was <'l|am;nl sn|ni~wl\.n lay llmiq
almnl. sn l could lcll tlu-in lmw In iln ll. thick smrr the lll'ilkl_\' wi~|'i~ gin-n llns vslra lL'>\\'kl_ whu srnlplul n. ll luukvil wry
Ilnzu many (In|mi'I<r.r /Iivl }\-nu rrrulu snppurl. ll'\\l||l('ll that unv k'l\1lf.\l'lll' and murh likc snmvlhinq [min 'llll". (ll 'l'l".R
fur[hr(fmililmii-l]m'21cr'? II\;l\lk' t'\'\ll l'upii' frum lhr mnhl. ()l l.l.\lll'S. whirh is whal (ivn|'|_[1' wanicil.
Ifnkrr: I hail very liulc In (ll! with lhv unirsi-_ ihc hands had lo gm wiih il, sn l 'l'lu-so puuplu wcrv SUI]!-Il\Ull(IlI animamrs
SC(|Ull\ll l)\llSlLll Ur lhc far! lha\ l gm llw $\'\ll|lll'\l our svl u|' hanlls and rasi l'nnrl\~vn alnl ihcy lllilll\' llu-sv masks in surh a way
crew l4r){\ll1L|' llI\Ll Sll|llI'\'lS(l whal l nnilll. of lhum. l.aim~ In-lpul ll'll pain! ilu-m. \\'c lhal il was \'ii-nially i|n|mss"ihh- In ll|'l'1llllk'
l llcsigiiuil a Cl1\l|llL' nf lhc aliens aml (lid kinil ul' l!\,l-]H'\)Ll\ll'L(l lln-m on an as's'vm- ur soc ll\rmn;li ihcm. lh"\ansi~ l was so
om: hcad which is nnl uvcn in lhc lilm. hl\' lilw. l lhink \\'L'lH>\|i;lIl1lllul|l_/iIr/)_Q|l/ lmsy, l rvally iliiln'l cxplain vrrl c.n'cl'nlly
alllmn_i;l\ ll is one uf lhc lwllcr lwails. Im|.\ ul' lalrx fur ihc prniiwl and il's all almul (hr lhings lhal slmuhl l1l'llllll( In
l Smnc nl lhc lwsl alicns wr lnailv ari'n'l qmicl \\u alsu hail almnl 500 puumls 0| ||\.|k1' a mask \\'r.||.\hh~. 'l'hc mils air huh-
|:\'1'n in \hv: piclun.-. lllun'l know why. l'm plaslcr fur l!\l\l(l>'. 'l'ha| s qnilv a hi! ul'ma- \\'as lllis lilllv |n\||ul mulllll ll\.\l |h\~ nmn
just assnniing lhal lhcy di\ln'l nil in wvll. la-rial in work wilh. slcr hail. .\lus| of ihrm hall |nnsi\'.ll inslrn-
I.i.vL'a: l lllll four. \\'hcn yun go inlu lhc I /mum //ml _\'nll aw-1'v:i'm-/m1_q nu a :v'r\- lnvnls slnck in lhvir mnmlis. 'lln'si- sun-ii
harmmn, l (llll lhc first cl\ara<'u:r you scv. light \&'Ill'lIllI|', Ynur nlll/111! In|.\||nl1!:l'I|g|'I| or ciglr ]>1'uplL' in lhu halnl wu|'r lryjin; lo
ll was snrl of a 'l'-ln'ailcil guy \\'i|l\ iglnwilig lllul l'|'.\]I|'\ I. synr n|| lhcir inun-s' In a llrniw (i4IlIllII\.Il\
cycs andpnrplish in<'nlur.'lhalwas;u'l\1al- I./,\/cu: (Mginally. (irurgc uunhl haw rrrmwl. 'l'lu-3' lilmcll llu-m fur a unlpll ul
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llnurs and wound up with an intrctIihln' of tI1t-pict11rt'.'I'l11"y \1|ult'rst<1ml thr situa-
amonnt nI' Itmtagc of thc I1a11dpIayin_1;. lit" tinn, tlmttgh. \\t' g.1\t' ll1tIl\ :1 ht~ll nI' a Int
Cause they had to he pliysical, dancing tnnrc tI1an what they arlually paid Iur.
around whilt thcy wcrv playing and nut Thcy wcrc \'t'ry _tgratvlul. hut I was nnt at
I7I". "III" I" I"*'-1II\I- IIWY 'I'I'I' '~'I"5 I" all happy with wI1at we had in it. 'I'ht'
passing nut. It was a Int uf Inn \\';|ltI\lItg (hing; .L.n. (-mlk.|}- dmu._ Q. did mm-.
II II1IIIII'5- -'\II "I5I4I1I'~" "'1" .\,!"I' '""IlI
11 thing likc !n'1'nI_\- mun.\I1'r.\' on a .\'t'.\- zwr/4
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III5 ""II II" "XI" s<'ht'duI1:. lint wt wt'r1'|tt t'u111plaining. \\t~
8"" 'IiI"~'I"~' 'iI "I5" 5"" I"""I' I"II watttcd to do as inurh as wc ruuld Iur
WI"~'I'~ III" II'~"II5 '~'"IlI III 'IiI"'Y \\"'I"~' thc.st- pt-uplt-. I partirtilarly likvd (i1'n|'_1;t-s
breatlting so hard, the whulc hcatl was t*un- ;n;iu||1- ;tI1m1t thc Iiltn, t'spt'tially aI't1'1' i;,.
tractiitgantl t'Xpa1tdi11_\g.'I'|1t'ywt'nt thru1|gI1 jug |]|n,g), ||,,_- ,_-xv-ril-|~ nf K[,\(;
hllI\lI1l1l""'I KONG. wlti-rc I was \\'urI&itt1; Inf |)tu|tlt'
Ill'.m'itk: That mix kind of wcird. I'ht' -tn, |1;| U i|][pg[y' ;|| ;|||_
mouths of thc band tlt;tt:1ttt'rs wt-rr just /1 ;m_\- gum] 1 X|'4' .\lI tttm|\' /inniliur
littlc intlcntatiutts. 'I'l1cy wcrc st\1I|1tt'tI that )m!Iu'.t /'iuul!\' gr! .n'r1'1'n crmlfl. I I
way sn thcy wuuld Inuit like they wvrv lt,|I.-',-y,- ']"]|t-y \\'|_'rt* wry nin: in giving
ready tn hlnw intn a tttusiral instr\1111t'nt. credit [0 c\'t-rylmtly. I uriiginally wont in
That was the only plarv I tuttld set ll! thvsrc knowing that wc would nnl n'rt-ivc
makc an airhulv. so I put a Iittlc \'t~1\t thcrt-. cn-tlit for this. But tht-y wrrv so plt-ast'd D
On the day nl the slmut wt: I't1\1tttl 0\11- with thr work that wc tnntt-d nut in Illlll KID
sclvcs in thcsc masks with hardly :1 place to and fur tin; ttmiwy, that Gary Kurr/. t1IIt'r-
breathe II' \m1 '. ltad tht'n\ nn for a shnrt t-tl mv trcdit .
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PCTIQKII II \\';\ IIIILH Ittll \\'l' ll-"Ill ll IIO I- takt: it without I01-li11_t; g.;\1iItyI1ct'at|st' I was
tum tn twcnty~|nin\1tt' lakes in tht-in. Wt: just s\|p,k.n4;5ig_ ()n.|- ll. yl-rs in mmiu
wcrc doing a pantnmimv to some old I'ur- piptttrt-5, lI]\|'( s ht-t~n 5|; m;||iy |;t-<;pIt- that
tics" music. It wasn't the atstual musiv usvd |'\<c ltmkt-d up tn as the pt-nplc wlm actual- _]m1 lh-rg is a stup-ntntiult animator who
in the film. it was just smm-thing to gi\'t us ly did tI1t- work, unly tu find nttl latcr Ihal spcciali/.cs in tht- nntstrtictitm of articulat-
a ht-:11. \\'c were Iiltttctl lhrrr !inn'.<. caclt thvy \\'t'rt' tIq1;1rl|ntnl Iwads who had \'ir~ cd armaturcs Inr slop-ltlutiolt puppt-ts. llis
IIITIC IIII"K 1\I""I I'1'"IY "I""I'~'- 5" T tually nnthiltit In du witl1 a spt'tiI'ir n1akc- hall-and-s<tt-kt-t skt-Ivtmts haw litt'ralIY l"'"
wcrc i11 thusv things for about an hnur. Wt: \|p_ | ft-lt t||;|| 1 ((|\|l(l "1 [4, |hl- ;||m; \id1'1l thv I1at'l;Im|tt' ul tharat'tt:rs ani1natt'tI
only tuuk thvnt tall utwc in that time pcr> (hing mysclf, I said that II \ut1 1;l\t inc hy suvh stnpaiintiuti I111ninarit's as David
iotl. WI: would pnll thr gloves off and thv U-(Ii; \-ml |\;|- H, j|<]"(| ,_-{<t-r\|jm|\- an .\Ilt'n and _|im Dattlurtli, tn nanw hut a
5'"I .I5I P""I'lI "III "I IIm- II III 5" my <*rti\\'. 'Iht'\' saitl tht-\ wuhld work II\\~ IIUT" I" I9'III- _I""
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bad, we wen: FL-I)l'L{llI\Illg our nwtt air! 5(,,m.l],;g mn_'_\[u.r 1. "lid ||- (;;m|;,,;, while still high sclmol. l't-rhaps the must
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\\'hile the pruptnan was giving us an utta- 5,_-|m.m-._ Jun |;l.m ml Hm -|-ipm. mt furtttitutis t'\'t'111 altt-r high scluml _\;radua-
sinnal shot of nxygcn, Gary Kttrtz was gt W -|-55 gm;-_ 5, 1|-Y -,_n~ |,;\|,l,t- 11, 1;, tiun was his ;1<'t|1|ai1\t;11|1"t- with I)a\i1l .-\|-
ing amund slitting the masks undcr thc U. "mtg; as q,,p.|,,;i,,,, ;,,,i,,,;m,r,_ 1'1-Y lcn. "\\'ht-n I mt-t llan-. I slmwt-1| him smnc
' chin with a knifc or :1 raznrlilatlo: tn rrcatt: pm [Mug |;l-i~k'_,- "mm. -ilh mg,-_ ti. I'm1ta1;c that I had tlunc ul a littlc gorilla
"gills" for us. [(,rm;ml-1-_ |_;,in,_l |;k;|_ M, lid J |,,; f Ilattghsl how many pvnplc do I/ml? and
You 1/i:I11'1 t|I|lft'l]l!llt n brt'uII|in_g pro! U. .urk_ "ms |.h Um f ll. tn-|;l_ In gut Hit a job dni11y; the IilIsI111ry I)ut1gh-
Im iliirirzg !I|1*_n'uI/nun xlugv? ]_,';/-,,_~ | am-55 ] (,|m-||,,- um |.,| in 1|- lmy at (Iascadv: I'it"tun's whirh turnvd into
Rt.ttvit'/: \\'cIl. nu! Ilanghsl I pttt it on s|||'f|._ ins! mu. Hf lust. |,'i",: ||u| imp. a lull-ti1n<'j0I1. lIt~I'1>rt' that. _Iu1\ atttndttI
II? I "IIIIII-' II 1"II I IIIII IIIIS I"II' I III puts smnt'tin11's. It would l1a\'t-I1t't'n 1tit't- to 581"!" ~\I""II'I| (III? II"III'll'~' It" I'" Y'~'1\I'5
IYOIII IIIIII I '~'"\IIlI II"-I "III "IT I"II"!-I I- l1t' linked with this Iiltn mt film. 'I'l1t'n' and It'll tn |mr.s\1t' his intvrcst in stop-111n~
5" III'I'* IIIIIIIII 5I"~I" I" III -W I""I'II'I wcrc a Int ul nan\t'.s' up tltrrt". and a Iut of timt attilnation.
WIIII II- -'\I5"- I IIIIIIIII II"" IIII ""AI- namcs that didn't qvt up tltt-rc. .\n\'huw. it _]1>n I1t't';1|nc a rt-gular nictnhcr of tht-
II"Y "-IT K"I.\! I" 5II""I- 1""I I IIIIIIIII 'i"I wasn't rt-ally work, it was I(IIl"7- ltni. (Ia.statIt- crow in I969 a|1d staycd tI1t-rt- 11n>
IIY "1'"I5 I" 5I"' "P "I""I'I'553IIIY- "\5 II I'Iv.\':t'ir/.'.: I think it was lltt grt'at1'st ex-
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our gIlIS." Y1! \\'""III_I"5I I'~'*'I IIIIS I'"'~'I" trntial and scu|1t'. II tht-y t~\t'r du almtltvr
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til I974 when the company changed man- lt'lit-rc war the aiiiniatinii .r/tut? would peek in and see how we were doing.
agcment and became CPC. Among the Berg: It was shot on one of the back Once the ideas were nailed down and the
many character's he's animated besitles stages of IL.\l. All the facilities weretliere. stop-inotion began to progress, we were
Poppin I~'rcsh are Hans the Nestle's .\lan, Dennis .\luren, who's hatl a ltit of experi- pretty much on our own. George was very
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Ogg, and several others for Kellogg's. lle al- ence with stojrmotitiii situations, tlid the busy with the cutting and the sound mix,
so has the novel distinction of having heeii lighting setup and the eamerawork on it. hut he cared enough to get involved antl
the ankles anti hands" of the _]olIy Green While we were still busy finishing up some "take suggestions.
Giant in 2| special makeup devised by Rick of tlte puppets, Detinis was setting things I)o you limit any fatiorilr tflYt'lt'7.t
Baker for color extreme closeups. up for us. IL.\l also had some people liuild qnimig !Iit- micr yuu built?
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ll _]oiis inost recent work includes making the actual animation table. Tf[IlI(fl.' The only one I made that had
the armature for William Stroniberg's Tllli II'Iiust' itlca was it I0 /tat't' .rlnp~itintt'mt any kind of story value was the one little
i CRATER l..-\Kl-I l\I()NSTl'lR and some figures in lIttft'r.i'l place? bt~;ttit- who pick; up the guy that hop;
armature work for the film l..\SERI*lL.'\S'l, 19".?-' Tl" llllllill "'~'Pl l Ill" (C55 across the chessboard and throws him
with effects by I)a\-id Allen. Ilis joint ef- 51""? 15 CUM-'l"l hi Gr\' l-"(#15 ml down. I actually built that particular one
fnrt with Phil 'l_l|)])t.lllll( sculpture and Gilt) K\"l7- '15 mm? "l II "11""! l"~55 several years ago. It wasn't for a specific
animation of the clicssmenga\'e S'l'.\R game. They wanted little people inatted- pwjt-t-t or aiiytliing;itwasjust something]
WARS some unexpected moments of won- in Ill-\l Wlllllll llllllh G'~0TlZl 511" lillTl'RE* was doing on my own while experimenting
tier and delight. WORLD \\'l\ll\- l l1?ll'~\'- llll it ilmllilf '~" with new materials. I had it in the shop one
Phil llppelt is a fine sculptor antl a ql"~"l-C l" il- B"! ll '15 %\fl\lIlllY 1" lllcll day when we were doing the makcups for
hard-working guy. lle was horn in l95l in that Georttf llild ll"-ll Yeil" 33 ml ll "7" the Cantina sequence. When Lucas saw it.
ll"lllY- Cillifvfrlin. antl received his Bach- l "P l" lUTURl1'ORl-D l>Y 5l"~'~"' "l"Fl he really liked it a lot and said, Iley, that
elor's Degree from the University of Cali- dencc. After seeing FIJ'I'UREWORI.I), he wuutd r,_.;,||y hc gr; rm. {he (.|,.s s.
fomia at Irvine in I973. I've been inter- was sort of disappointed in seeing that quenu._-- Thc hing had bu. siuing in my
estctl in stop-motion work ever since Ray someone had already used his idea. When ch,-I for 3 tong [huh amt though, this1
Harryhausen came out with THE 7TII Phil and I heard through Dennis Muren whuht hr 3 r;||y gum; Chuncc to gt-lhhh
VOYAGF. OI SINB.-\l). I spent my spare that George wanted some more monsters f;|m_ | had m;,,j,_- an-;,,,gL-mt-ms that ht-y
time sculpting and doing practice anima- for the Cantina in addition to the ones huh; just be ,,-,,',,g that mnh-u|;" mu.
tion. lmet Dave .~\llen and_]im Danforth in that Stuart Freeborn had built, we made ,_t|_ tn ning hut my hwt,i,_~_ [just fhafgfd
i
1968._'lhey've helpe_d me considerably." up some small sculptures as design ideas [hem uh 3 hut hash [hr that pupp,_~l_ RC.
IhiI landed his first job at Pr_ojects Un- for George and Gary to see. In the interim, m|y_ Jon and | pt tug,-tltt-I 3 link; lhs.
limited, where he did some minor work Rick Baker got the job as supervisor and plav of the creatures for George and sent it
for the film S0.\lI'l KIND ()I~' .-\ NUT under we worked with Rick on that. When up '10 him_ | had thc |,u1j,;,mt.(,t-1.;,_-t an-ha.
the supervision of Gene Warreii and Wah George saw our little models, he and Gary tum f|g[n()\'1_'|J from (ht; tntitlgl |,t-ft;t-t- wg let
Chang in I969. It called for front liglitl kind of Pvllfd "P ll"~' lllm "l "5l"8 5lP' it go. So he's in possession ofthat particu-
lmck llglll "illll llli" ll'l'd
5mP'
motion animation of a little car. It was sup-
ll ""7ll"-
I)u you Item" any i'tlt'a ti-Iiy tlic imfiiiu~
lar puppet right now. But as far as I under-
gtatitl, tltey don't own any tlesigtt rights on
posed to he driving lialf-way across the lion is ntt'rt'ly .ti1ptriiiip0st't1iii !Iit' .rci'iii'? that tmtg,
United States, then tuni into a picture Berg: George wanted that transparency. I1 Iuoki-tl rlrtitigt'1_\' riiiiilar In I/It TIIIITIIX
postcard located in one of the corners of The main idea was to product: a representti- "Int/t'l in I:'Ql'I.\'().\'.
the screen." lle eventually became one of tioii ofan electronic hologram. .\latting the TI-I)[)l'll-' .-\cttially, wlieit you're using a
the Cascade crew and has worked at var- figures onto the board would have render- standard ape armature like "Number .\IB-5"
ions production houses in Ilollywond on a ed them solid. So what we did was shoot it or something like that, certain models tend
freelaiice basis, including Filml-'arc. l-lxcel- against black velvet and they doubled it in to look siniilar to a certain extent. When
sior :\llllI11\lC(l Moving Pictures, and Crca- one of the old basics. The live action por- youre doing the "basic humanoid monster-
tive Film Arts. Ile sculpted Tllli CR.-\TER tioiis of the chess game were pliotographed weirdo shape there are bound to be simi-
l..~\Rl'l .\lO.\1STER under David .~\llen's sup- on the pirate ship set over in linglantl. ()rig- larities.
crvision, and then went on to ST.-\R \\'.~\RS inally, they planned to have video scan Iicrg: That was the largest figure. I think
to sculpt (Iantina makeiips antl build and lilies printed into our animation just as had Phil was intrigued by the model that Dave
animate the chcssinen with _]on llerg. Phil been done with Princess l.eia. Once we fin- .-\|len built for IlQUI.\0.\l. There are ct-r
is presently involved in _]im |)anforth's l5lKll 01" i1"lmi!lll"\. it \vas sent tiff to the lain proportional similarities between the
Tl.\lEG.<\'lE. When I last spoke to him, he Opticals department. I tloiit know where two. Incidentally. that model was the only
had just ptll tlic finislting touclit-s on a or \vl\rn the decision was made. but the one with II fully articulated armature in it,
pterodactyl. idea of the \it.lcti scan was dropped. Ido eytgfytlting tglge was ttiin-tl_
know that they were under a tremendous |1';|_\-7| l it Ital! trying In gt! Jtylistvl ac-
lt'Iial was your it-urltiiig tirraiigvirtt-til? amlmm "l l""355ul' "I Bcl lllll 5\\|lT ll"l5l1- linii out nfu-i'rt'ftgi1ri'.rI'
Tf[I])t'ff.' Each of us did about half of cd. So I don't know whether the video scan Bprg: It always is, although we would
the chess set. jun did the lead animation. I was too time-consuming. or that it just 11;/ pycfggtjto have everything jnintetl,
was mainly involved with the animation of didn't look good enough. h'; jun um ,,( hose things hm uhch Imp.
the hackgrountl characters, The way we Ditl you lend In gt"! in Hie tuuy ofrat-Ii pt-n whch yuu'r working on a project. The
worked it, each of us would take half of other it-Iii'Ii' niifitiatiiig mi the Xllltll .tt'l a1 original concept and requirements were
the chcsslioard for any particular shot. One Hit same Iinir? much simpler. .-\s we got into it, there were
I of us would animate half the characters 'I'i'ppctt: No, not really. llverything mom ht; that we,-t~ coming op_ Thch
while the other person would animate the went surprisingly smooth. When Jon and I 50mg hf 1|"; ;tt~|it,n; tht-y wmttt-tl bggan to
other lialf. arrived at ll.l\l, all the setups were made gm; htttc mt, ,_-t,mpt;t-att-tt_
II'trt' then" any l|fht'7IlIIf7IlHlt!Y_f? and everything went amazingly well. Isup< [)|'(/ you ghoul llic tziifnialiuii on single
Berg: No. Phil antl I did the chess pose all I could say is that we just really frairtt.r? I'zu' Iinirtl of um'cuiiipaii_y in [lo].
scenes together and built all the charac~ had a great time. We encountered absolute- lywtmtl wIIt'rt' .t[)t't'd is su inipurlaiit, you
ters. Do you remember the little one that ly no hostilities. .~\nd George was really t-an gt-t in lytitt[)It' if you're caught rliotitirig
jumps up and gets thrown down? That was great to work with. uii ririglvs.
one of the more memorable bits of husi- Was l.lu:aJ around wltilc you u-t'rt' aiii'~ Bcrg: We knew we were under pressure
ncss that I animated. mating? to finish the animation as soon as possible
' I Iluio niitny ntiiiiittltvi l7lUlIt'I.t art !Iit'rt'? Berg: lle came in and talked to us. We so the optical lab could make composites
l set the thing up with the gures on the in time for the release date on the picture.
Tippcll: I believe we originally built
.
ten, but George Lucas axed two of them. board and he kind of arranged them, which But there wasn't anybody breathing down
so finally there were eight models that was nice. We were able to throw ideas back our necks. We had a tremendous amount of
showed up in the final lm. We built all and forth. He just didnt come in and dic- freedom. \\'e shot everything on singles.
It these weird and crazy things, and by the tat_c what he wanted; we all discussed the but because of the electronic/holographic
time we put all ofthem on the chessboard, moves and the various bits of business. It look that was called for in the sequence,
it kind of looked like a bunch of spaghetti! was George's idea to have the character we were trying to run a bridge between the
' We had to pull a few of them out in order hop over to the front, so we rigged that up. absolute smoothness of a Doughboy and an
electronic effect. We were trying to pro-
.
to make the scene more intelligible. After we had started shooting, he or Gary
73
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tlure -1>1111*tl\i1uz \\'Ill1 -I -\'/11"! 1"/4 I11 ii. it. It was what they :1'111111-11 to tlo. .\111I
BE
that looketl .1rtifit'i.1lly getteratetl. hoy. that is soinethitttg that you just t|11 not
lI'1r1' 111111 /rlt-1111'1I 11'1'II1 II11- r1'.\'11l!.\' Ilml f1'n1/in this town!
_\111uk""? I'.'1-1'vj\11n1' ;1~I111 z1'11rl.'1'1I 1111 I/11' /r1'1Iur1'
Butttt
['1'/1p1~/1; Sure. \\'c woultl have prt-ferrctl /,1,1[_[111111'11g !l11'11_;-1 /11 11111 111111111 (/1-11rg1 I.u
w l\:1\"v had u link" more time w 1:" lmrli 1-11.1 111 11 1/111-11111 111111111 11 /111111.111 I11-1'11t1_ IJ11
over .11ul reshoot tl1i1t1zs,l1t1t Lucas Ielt that yuu I1u:'1'11111-/11-r\111111[r1j/I1 1'11'111111111 /tint!
the .11titt1.1ti111t was ;1tlet|\1.1te for the Iilnt. I [;1-y_g_- '[']1t-1-1-'5 1,1tt- imjtttm
|],_,1 | rt-,
suppose. 111e|11l1er well. l'l1il antl I .~l111wt-tl up .1l1o11t
II11:1- l1111_q1I1'1I lI11'11111'n1111i1111 I111.-1 111 1/11? 7:0!) one mor1ti1114 at the st.111t' \\'l1t-re we
/l'I".k'-' I think it was .1l)t|\ll .1 \\1'1'k. \\'v were 111 l1e sltootintt the (I.111ti11a shots. \\t-
shot more Iootatge than they ttsetl. \\'e tlitl were out i11 tl1t'l1.11'k w.1iti1114 I111 the 1|ll\Ll>
some closeups of the stull, hut it ;1ppar1'11t-
ly tlitltt't rut into the set|t1e11ce for the ti1tt~
to sltow up 511 we ct111l1lqeti11.11ul li11tl1111t
just how things were 1;oi11_1; to he littetl up. @@@u@U
l".\ III-II (I'~'"T.\lI' \\'3IIl='II~ II"! KIN "'31 "Ill\1' .\s \\e looketl 1l11\1'11 tlte .tlle\'_ tl11'rer11111e
-=lww fit riulu inw H11 til-"1-Ire (;1~111.-1- 1,111.11 .111 111- 1111111.-11 11-1-;11-11111.1 1-1-11.
ters were built. \\'e hatl just Iinisltetl \\'ork- _, H-,3 n-14u_,t,|c W-m," H ,1-1-11-M3,, /.le the screett, the elI't'tti\'1"ttess of carlt
1111
ing 1111 the C;111tina.111tlwt-111ri14htt111 t11tl1r ;,t,.,t,1|1i1,,_"_,]]_ illusion \111ultl he lost tore\1~r witltout tlte
\\'ht-11 we wete tltt-tltess proper soutttl el'|'ctt. \'i.\'11.1ls opt-11 the eyes
II' R-"I"-'1 II W115 I'll-IIIIY Hnttpressetl.
11 511111111111; t;.1111t-,
.111tl st1111ttl raises the goose hutnps. l)ittti1t-
I'III<' PI'YI"I 'III 1II"I "I1'II"II' .1-M111: 1111 (iconic the tie-111-t-.1. 1111 .1 li ttle
11~t111l1l t.1l-11'
in .1 vet) SIIIITI 5llIl'? "I IIIIIl'- IIIIII KIWI I pa11111mi111e. lump tltetn111'erl1c|'e.1n1lstt1ll' II IIIF IIY"-'II>'_"I "III' -I"II_III*' "II'I'1I_"
were working crazy hours. sotttethittg like like |lt;|t_ It tt-,1; l't111 t11t't' him ltinxett up. tt11t1.1t1c;1lly l<1$cs!ts]H||tt'lt. lh.1tsy|1tl1111t1t
relatio11sl1i|1 is rt-le\'.111t to .1ll gettres of the
lltrvv in the ztltrrlwwt til semi or viultt in \'t111 k11t111~. l111 111111.-1| 111 11>1.11.i11_t; 111 t~11111-
ttttwies l1t1t it is a11 es|1t-cially settsitive issue
the tnorttingl ttterriztls where tliings are tteiterally more
I'll in! _\'o11 1111-rt hulh !111[1p\- 11 _1_'1'! ttptiglit. (ieoree was so nit e to work \1itl1 with sciettce l'i1ti111t. It is tliI'l'icult to itt1a- ,
.tt'r1*1'n t'r1'1lfl atttl so ope1t,jt1st .1 terriliit cotttrast. Ile was gine tlte opt-nint; shot i11 S'I'.-\R \\'.-\RS
as .t!11]1-1110111111 nr11'n111l1:r1.
Berg. It was terrific. I can't tell you how going for this sense of e11joy1tte111. I'|n .11- tvithttut that ittcretlihle roar. I.ike\1'ise, tl1e
ways aina/.e1l when I see S']'.~\R \\'.\I{.\'. It \\'ot1kie (.1 fancilttl exteitsion of George l.u-
great a pleasure it was to work on it aml
how lucky I Ieel to have heen associatetl runs tl1e spectrttm 11l'ett1t1tio11;1I respottst-s, e;ts' n1.1la11111te tlog 11.11netl l11tli.ut:1) ;111tl R2-
l111t there is tltat all-itttportattt sense oli [1111
I)2 lose their contatgiotts cl1.1r|tt witltout tl1e
I with it. Dennis .\Iure|1 was the guy who proper voice. S'I'.-\R \\'.-\RS is it fusioti of
kept pushing our names to work on the aml ettjoymettt tltrotiglttutt tl1e whole
l
tltiltg. When I think of tl11: pressttre tltat sight .1tttl sountl taken to the extreme. Sur-
l film, and he 1leser\'es :1 lot of cretlit Ior get- prisingly, most of its i1111t1\';tti\'e sou111lef-
ting us on the picture. .-\nother interesting George n1ust'\e hcett untler while .1ll tltat
fects were larigely tlte work of t111e i11tli\'itl\.t-
1
thing was that we were working under tlte was going on, I Iiml it ittcretlihle that lte
al .1 young .t11tl talentetl Iilttttnaker/sottntl
I
-I ~ - I MARS. IIe
New York
nine years
was horn in I9-I8 i1t Syracuse,
anti lived tnost of his twenty-
in the east. Many of his child-
hootl years were spent protlucing effects-
orientetl super-H movies. lle graduated
from 1-\l|egl1e11y College itt Pettnsylvania
with a tlegree in physics. You see what
training itt physics tloes for you? You im-
mediately go into something else!" After
that, he (lecitletl tltat lte wantetl to do film-
making on :1 professional level.
During the next year. lien ntatle sotne
lms and won some contests, alter which
he tried producing commercials in Syracuse
for a year, gaining experience hut not mak-
ing a living. In that case, I was doing pho-
tography, lighting and sound. and working
with a lot of guys." Ilis Iilms became more
was 111-\1-1' i|1 1"0111et11i1111 10 1111 :1n1'thi11g 11'h0l1- r1-111-r111ir1 111' s0111111s. I fi|1:1lly sa11
script. with
m;1j11r.'I'h;11 11'as11'1
Ieant."
my goal. Iw:1s1l11-rt-111 tl11:
tl1t-111 111011.
1111-1
TI11-y
(11-01111-.
111-1-111-111111
111111 1:1lk1-11
kitttls 011-11i1"es I \
\\l11-11 doing 1"11111111er1i:1ls it1 $1'r;11't1s1- :1111I 1-qttiptnt-11t s0ut1ds. TI11-1' 111-1tl1-1lsn11t111
b11r1- 1111 fruit 1':1r1-1'r-11'is1', B1-11 111-citlt-tl 111 f0r 1\'e:1p011s :1n11 l1:tr1l\1':1rc :1n1l 1111-rltztnical
c11|1ti|1111- his higlter 1-1l11t';1tinn. lI1- n1:11l1- :1 111-\*i1'1-s. They 1litI11'1 t1-II 1111: this i11i1i;1ll1. I
lil111 1-t1titl1-11 (il~'.NliSIS 11-hi1"l1 111-:1lt with guess 1111-1' 11-1-r1-11111\'i111_1 sI1111ly. 1r1'i11_1; 11111
the 1'11-:1ti111111ftl1e U11i\'1-rs1-. lt s1-1-111s tl1:1t p1-111111: 10 s1-1- 11'l1:1t they c011l1l 1111. ;\l1111tt
c1'1-r1'0t11- has :1 film 11:tn11-tl Gl'l.\'I-ISIS! I
guess tl1:t1's s111111-11111114 1111- all l1.tv1- i|1si1l1- 0f
us." ()11 1111- basis 111' tl1:tt film. 111- was
1111- same wt-1'k that I stttrtt-11 in _|t1ly 11f
I975, they rc1111-(I sp;111- in \':111 Nttys f11r
Il..\1 :1n11 l11:1.g:1n 111 staff it 11'i1l1 111-111111-. S111 '
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a11':1r111-11 :1 st'l10l.1rsl1i|1 :1111I 1111-111 111 1111- I11-_1;a|1 111 in\'1'nt" s11t111111:Ife1"1sf11rST.-\R
gra1|11at1- s1'l1110l of (Z1111-111:1 :11 USC fur \\'.~\RS. I
11111-1' :1111I .1 l1:1lf 1'1-.1rs. Tht-11-, he l11-1":1n11- an Ilnw tlirl _\-1111 11111111-1-1!?
instrttrtur i|1 1111111111. I1-t1r|11-11 the t1-1"l1n11l0- Iiasicttlly 11-11111 I 11i1I1\':1sl1r1:t1k 11111111 th1-
:1|1tl l11'1".1n1e .11'li111:111-11 111 the II0ll1'~ 1-ntire s1ri|11 into 1lifler1-111 1:111'g11ri1-ss11e-
11111111 111t11-i1- 1'11l1my. 1*i:1l \'0ic1-s. 11-1-111111115, 1-1-hi1'l1-s, 11110rs. et1'. I
I11 .\I:11' 11f I974, 111- 1'0111|1I1-11-tI1\~11rk 1m was trying to fi11d s0t1t11ltl1:1111'011l1ll1c :11)
:1 t11111i1- 1':1ll1.-11 Kll.I.I)O7.l'lR 1111 11hi1'l1 he pmpriate a1111 11ri_11in:1I. I11 :1 film like this.
ditl tnittiattttres :1t11l :1m1.-11-0r crashing i11t0 y11t1'recreating a t111:1l f:1111:1sy 11'0rI1l. l\'11th>
.-\Iri1":1." It was 110111 for ll11i\'1-rsal a1\1l the ing r1-ally exists. N11111: 11f 1111' eqttipmt-111
efft-cts 11er1- shut in Ilitnm. 'l'h;1t 11-11 111 ntakcs any s011t1d during filming, 11r 1111- I11-11 Ihml.
work :11 Gr.1|1hi1' films :ts :1 s0t11111 1-tlitnr s0t1n1l it 1l01-s111ak1- i$t11 the right 11111-. .-\ll
and 111111-r l1:;1r11i11g j11l1s in that fi1:I1l. "I the 51-ts 104111 great l111t tl11-y'r1- 1111:1111 111':1t1. 1111; 51111111] 1:111-1"|s in ST.-\R \\'.-\RS, .1n11
did 50111111 editing 011 1:1ri11t1s Kt1t1g~l"11 Thert.-'s1111life t11tl11-111. .-\ll ki|11ls111's1111n11s 5111111; 111' 11 -35 111<11,11|1|1- 1111111111-1~1| 111 1|11-
pietttrtzs. s11r1 11f off-tl11--11-all, 11011-1111i11t1 11'1.-r1- tu give it 1"r1-tlihility and 111
nee1le1I 5111111-f;15i111,11,
prt1j1-1'15.gaining 11111r1- 1-xp1:ri1-11re as 1111-1' make it excitittg. It's n01 just tn tnake it [_,-1', gr; 1,1-k 1,, 111,- 11*,,,,k,',-_ ]],,1,~ ,11',[
cam1-along." :t1"ce|11:1l1le. The whole movie is :1 c0n1ic 11,1111-1,~1111~/1111-"11-11?
1 In recent 1'1-:11's, I31-11 workt-11 it1 t1l1sC11re b1111k. It 111-1-tl1'1l r1-:1II1' et1t'rge1i1; s011n11s \\'i1l1 1l1c \\'1111ki1.-, my r1-s1-:1rcl1 i11111l\*1-tl
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ad-'*'"I "1 ST-R I-'\R51 he '35 Cllufcll i11111'111'1'\111u1'11111111 11-av? I 1"t1II1-1'11-11 11f weird 1:111-
tapes 11f;1ll kinds
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st111li1-1l tl11:111 1'01 :1Ii1-n-s01tn11-
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Ih"- "C Ill 1" l"ln Ill" Sam rm ST-'\R s1r1'ss1-11 in our initial 1"0n1'1-rs;1ti1111 11-as 1l1:1t l:1ngu:1ge l:tl1s 111 v:1ri1111s 1111i1'1'rsi1ies. 1'01-
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engaged in retnixing .~\1\I1lRI(i}/\N GR1\F- 51,u11(|i|1g 1-|,_-(1m,111-_ 13-11111115 R2l)'_1 11-;151]1 u|1usu:1I .-lj'ri1'n11 l;111g11:1g1-s, r1-t"1111l1'1l them,
H 1'1" 5""'*" "I -\"'"C," /1"1'""l"' I" only 1-211-1.-pti11t1, l1ut 1-\e11 I11
u-1,11-;1]]y c|,_.C1r1,1111-_ S1111-1
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Allkl lll\IR'1l I" Wllill ll")' l\1"l 1" $1? I
tztlketl tn p1-01111: who l1;11l ar1ifi1"i:tl voice
the Salt I"r;111cis1't1 art-:1. II1- _|ust c0111pIet1-11
II"? \"~'lIXI"K "I STAR W-'\R5 in G@'lm?ll\1 1141,,-\XE'l', i1' l11-1"0m1- :1 cliche. .\1:111\- film; huxcs :1111I r1-1"11r1l1:1l s1111111ls 1111111 ztnytltittg
101"! \'?l\1l5'~"l"\"~'l'5'i15l" l'i\l"'\1l"'Y- have 1'0pi1'1I pieces 11f it. l1u1 1hey'\'11 111-1-111 it\\1\l\'i|tt{ \t1it"1- |1111difi1':t1i11n as i|1 syt1tl11--
1 been as successful. I1 was :11-1-r1' alit-11 sc0r1-. $17-I-'l5~ T111- lllI-'|1l\lm<-' <<II"l>""Y 11"" 11"
kinds 01 wt-ird r1.-$1.-:11'1"l1 1111 111111 10 stun-
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Pl "l"'df' ' STAR w1'IRsP"'j""l? Pl-\1\[T and 1 1111-1| 111 1111_1]111 11 [111 11f voices in tliffert-ttt ways. S0 I 1ri1-1lt111'x-
I 5l'P5*' I '35- G371 ml C6978? "~"' things like that. it was not the :1ppt't1a1h PINK 115 ""l"Y i'"""55 -15 I '~'""ll-
"arching I1" PcPl'~' 1" _USC I d" SPCCIJI they wanted fur ST.-\R W.-\RS. Thcv 11-:1nt- Th! '""kl hi"! I" 1'" 1ll'"""l"l Ill
effects and costume 1l1_:s1gn, and artists an_1I Cd .1131 Gmmc 31-Y5 1-_1||,_-1| _111 ;,,q,,,1;,- f1-r1-ntly l11'e:1us1: I11: was :1 r1-al :111i1n:1l. T111-
model-builders to des1gn spaceships. Thts ,,,,,,,,1,,,,L-k_ .119 c\1,_-1-31111111,: is 11-111' and challenge 1111-re was to fi11d s01n1: ;11"tu:1I
was in June of I975. Ultimately, Gary |if,_-.|ikC_ |1 11111.51,-1 51,11,111 5,,-1|11;c_ T111-1: animals, r1-1111111 them. an1ls111n1-h0wmake
Kurtz contactctl some professors at USC is 3 11-11111-n1-y 11f c]c1mni1- 5111111115 11, be use of tl111se s0u1111s f11r his speetslt. \\'1- ini-
and asked them to recommend someone very P11,-c_ _.\n,__1 11'; 1,-11 dune so 11111113. tially tltuugltt that In-urx \\'11uIt1 111- pretty
who would be interested in working on the limes to creme 1, f11111_y fu.|i1,g_ 5T,\R good, 111111 they 11-1:1-1-. I r1-1111111-tl all kinds
soundtrack. I was recommended since I \\'_.\R5 1; 111-151-111iv 1,1 5,, 11111,-' familiar 11f bears that I 1-11ul1l fi111l. I r1-1111-11 I11-:1rs.
was the biggest fanatic down there in terms gen-5' Y" '5 51; 3 rn[sv_ T111 main went to r:111rl11-s 11~l11-1'1: they 111111 pet bears.
of sound effects. P111511-111 111111 C1-,_-11111111 51,11111_|'f1,1- 1111 Pic. and then t'e111t'1le1l all different kinds 0f
l)1'(Iy0u know Gt-urge Lucas? 1111c was 111111 1-U11 1111111 11, make 11 [,1~|1y. animals. I went 111 zoos a1111 11-curtlv.-11 sea
I tIid11't ktinw him at all. I knew of him ;1[,]g_ '[1111 11g11i11_ i1c1,11]1|111 |1 111,, 111111111111 lions and 1':1mels and trietl 111 111-11-rmit1c
but I never met him. Their main itlea was hg1_~;11_151_- 1111311 i1 1,1-1,11]d 1101 11 1,1111 of 1111 what animztls ltad 1"ert:1in sp1.-1-1"l1pa1t1-ms.
to gather a young, inexpensive crew with align 1-1111111-_ l1'1m.t .1'111m:l like
S1-11 11-uul1l'1-1 !11'1'11 lltry
lots of fresh ideas. After the re1'ommenda- WI1111 kiml nffilm_1' I1a1l lltc I11-11111;-,1! 1'n~ irlrulfur H11 l1'1111ki1-.
tion, I was interviewed by Gary Kurtz and u;-1111-1111 you 1'11 11-11111 1,_f51111111[jI Sea lions a11d waIrus1's 11-1-r1: 11-rrilic.
got the job. My first assignment was to l would have tn 53y I was i11111;111-d ;1 Bears are very good. .~\s it 1urn1'1111t11. a lot
come up with a voice for the Wookie. .~\1 1;-1;11 deal by ;1lo1Qf11-;11 mnvics and B11111! 0f the W11oki1: 11.-as mostly "b1-ar." Even
that time, the Wookic played :1 slightly big- movies. There really hasn't been :1 space] bears 111 the same species still have differ-
gcr role than he eVCn1u;1lly ended up with. fantasy lm like STAR WARS other than 1:n1 personalities!
The story was still evolving at that point. the Fl./\SII GORDON serials of wltich I Dial you .1pt'1trl any lime m-ur I/11* ([ur-
They had a third draft of the script. and I loved the sound. I tried to go hack to them 1111-I-,\Iu11l1'r1-_v sltorr
wIt1'r1- 11-11 liunx are
lhlllk "WY ""l\"1llY 51"" "1 ll? 1<""lh and see how the sounds were created. WAR pn-11nI1-111 m1tlp1'11])l1' ur1' .t1'un'1I/
draft. I think they were really concernecl OF TIIE WORLDS was another one. A lot Actually I went 10 M:1ri111-l:1111l. 11-here
'bI h"l" 3 "".lY Chilmclel lhll l1ld"'l of the material in that film was similar In they had public c<1llct"ti11ns 0f animals. l
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and pulls a gun on him, sort of a hit-man -I-/H. mm I,/~ H. J;"<I,_ in H". In,-Hg
would make arraiigenients to go in there alien. l~'.\'entually what was used for Greetlo Hm wt. xpl._1m.[a,_ [Hm] I,-,1 mm. .n"_
wheti the |1tll)liC wasn't around and tried to was a language which was "invented" from 5,31 ,,/1) '
get recordings. This went on week after Peruvian ltimti. 'l'hat was a very iiire lan- Thcfc arc iwi, i,um|_ (mg i,f |ht- Rt-ht]
week. Meanwliile. l launched researeli into guage. l used it a couple of times in the pie- igiutkmie ithhmq amt hm. i,[ ii. 51;" |).
the areas for weapons. l went out to army ture. lt was u_sed for a gold. hug-eyed roliot sqtoyt-t_ ] rt-t-imit-it ;| hit of innit-i-i;i| nt tht-
liascs and missile launches and took wea- in the Sandcrawler. lle said a couple of Mojave air races, high-speed aircraft flying
puns out to the desert, shot them, atid re- things hut you didn't understand it. lle was ten ft-ct ahnve the ground. I took those and
corded explosions, For vehicles, lasers, and also speaking lncan. Some of that was just glnwt-ti tht-m tinwn trt-ineiidoiisly. .'\ lot of
spaceships, l spent lots of time at various stolen. l just took words without knowing the very high f['t_(l\|L|\Li[ would therefore
airports, .~\ir Force liases, and factories what their meaning was and strung them timp (l(|\ut1 to ;| mtirc ;nitlihlt- rttnttc, l then
where they tested turliine engines. The together with the help of at\ assistant. l mixqil that with the wlioosh" of jet
main idea was to take those sounds, pro- found gt stuticnl ;|t ltei-kt-lt-y named Larry plnnqs and ;i iitumjci-];i|,_ 'lht- r[ ghip
eess theiii and orchestrate them like musi- \\';irtl who is a linguistics expert. lle eould was the thunderclap and the jet sottnds.
cal instruments. imitate voices. So l hrought hini over, we '|h t'()1|d gnuntl -35 I);|5i(;\Ily m;tt|( up of
S "' W"'-" ""11 """lP"-"4!" "1-ll-f \\'"Ykld ""1 ll: |iE\K'-'- "lid l\< mimil"~ll two elements: a low frequency rumhle and
ferent ani'ttial.iI' lncan very effectively. Larry liecame the part of the gnuttd of thg Gtmtlyt-nr Blimp
ln the end, l took recordings of hears. voice of Greedo. lt was phased elevtroni1'al- slowed way, way down! I spent a long time
camels. walruses, lions, and a few cougars ly so it hatl a strange, alien quality to it. lit rt-cortling the Blimp. It's one of my favo-
and extracted sounds out of them that phasing, you take two iileniiealeopies nfa ritt gtyuntlg, it (gt-;|tt_-ti the sense of sonic.
were similar iii color. The difficulty in duli- voice and put them nut of sync just a tiny thing gigantic moving, Thc ntixt-i-5 tiiti ,1 Int
hing 1' li1""1l! 55 "ml W)" luv! 1 5 Um ML of special enhancements of low frequencies
sistent you just can't cut a dolphin to a Ilow would yuiigoaboutiIr'visitigalati~ for that pmlituiar eff-i mm [,1 mm-I
walrus! lt has to he homogeiious. l picked gimgefnr RI.I)Z.? words when they did the finai mix. they
various hits of those animals, sounds which R? was the most difficult one of all. He Wonk] use spam] fiiis am] cxaguralc ht.
were eonsistent, and huilt won! li's!s out of was a potpouri of little sounds. That was mmming aspc of in you (Quilt do that
ll"-l"*l|\'~Y"5 Svllnd ~'\- 5- C- 0- '~'l'5- I "Wk the om M718 in ""7 Piclum hm '35 Suing with 70mm stereophonic sound hut not
each one of those and reproduced it at dif to be electronic, but it had to he totally wilh an Oniinary plicui "uCk_
ferent speeds. plus or minus, a little hit of tlnderstandahle in terms of emotion. \ ou "ow about Nu. [asnsy
one animal or another, sort of like musical dldlfl u"dY5li\"'J X4l'~'llY WI"! he 511"] hm Thgn; arc hits hf iiffr,_-ht kind; hf hi5.
""l5- 0""- Y9" 711""- his hawh "f dlfkr 7 3 I 'h he "1"
mc /""" ers. llan Snln's laser was different from the
ent sounds, you could draw isolated bits of P'""'"5'"l """' Um
will 1"" f""-h Empire's, The basic concept of the lasers
\Vl>"l5" "Y 5Yi|h|5- VH1?" You t-'mbl'"7 'l""lf' R2,? _ _ _ was to come up with something explosive
Wm and "Y 1" miikl "P 3 >"l"l"" hm The much ph.".m "la was 'm"c5ng without having it sound like a gimshul. It
gives the desired feeling. The \\'ookie ended bl" |l5 l""_ flmllll" and \*''k"'" i" ~;in't gning tn hn Ditty Harry; M;|gnntn_
"P '1"! 51*Yi"S 1! h| 1 C '""'d 'h" PPl' R2 '5 unsmcessful "]Y , he ex Again, this entailed a lot of research. What
l" W115 ""TY 1""-l he had 1150" W 01' six mm hm 3 lo I P'~Pl h"_' hm as really worked well in the end was the strik-
51l9fB5~" '9'-ch Ph9- HE'S 3 "cry lchcmc ba_h'_Cc ing of a long cable suspended from a radio
Did you ever iticorpurate any Iiumati uf mechanical and organic characteristics. [Owen you have in find a MW" with jun
muvids in llie composite for lltr Wnu_ki'e? The touch phone is too cold. We had an ex- thc right frequency, and I fnund nne.
There's not a touch of the human voice pcrimental version of R2 as something like "aw ,1,',1y"u hi; P0,, that M,-,1?
in there. It's all animal. A human could not a touch phone but it didn't have any mean- | was on J hike with my faih and he
makr the sound that (hr Wwkie mikes i"i;- accidentally walked iltl this cable! It
You could mimic it, but l'm convinced llvw was R2: uoicefinally acliieued? made ii g-i-mt sound! i told myself that this
that there is no way you can totally dis- Basically the essential character, as it has got to be exploited. It was almost a
guise the human voice. The real problem in tumcd out. was to combine the electronic whipping sound at 3 vci-y high pitch, T0
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use that sutuul Inr the lasers, we ltatl to I'd always have alternate suunds. Ilr would
slow it down a great deal. 'I'l\at was the Ima- respund to what I had and give nte his rear-
ir sound lntt a Iut ul things were atlded tu tiun In it. One example ul this was R_. Ile
it ha/.uukas, screeehes of various kinds. was just snrl ul lianunered nut syllahle Ivy
ctr. On smne ueeasi<ms. there were ltutnan syllahle. There were the usual tlilliettltirs
screams mixed in witlt it in urtler tn give it ul' heing consistent. making it suund like
a Ireakislt quality. the satne tharatter tmng t\lIl.tIt'tl stittt\tl\
Tlttll .\'umt1l.\' Ii/tr ,mntr 0/ I/1| !rit'lt.\
- - George would listen and react and provide
Illttm/mmt (|'rm- tinrttin tlivl fur I/tr .\InrIiutt guidanee.
n'n'um in (it'ur_gt' I'u/i\' Ili.'lR OI TII/2' - I)u_vu||hur'1 u "/at ~.. rtlt -"W u mlr // .-.1!
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lt'()RI,L).\'. ll'/ml tern .mnn' n_/'1/tr .\'//rti]'I't' I have many. Sound rlleets in Holly-
mum] 1-Iemt-ulx llml you lI,\t'1[]-U1 lite 1/1:/l wund tnuvies are usetl uver and uver again. E,
frrrnl /u.\"er,\!
l_\'/It'.\' uj I'ni\'ersaI is using the saute tlt\t|nlei't'l;|p
There were so many. it's almost itn|>ussi~ they reeurded Iur I*R.\.\KIz.\'S'Il-lI.\i in U ll
hle In tleseriln: thetn. The "twanging" las- I931! You ran hear the same l'a<'t~ punches
ers were used fur the Stunntruuper guns. and dtmr slams in tuany nld nuwies. I ln\t' U
In sntne eases. there were pistul shuts mix- that rrazy kind of emttittttity. I have a fa\'~
etl in with animal sereatns speeded up. In nrite .\'tn't|nt. In fact. I used it in $'l'.\l{
nther eases. I used electrical ares rntnhined \\'.\RS! It's in a lut ul' \\'arne|' llrns iimvies.
with dry ire squeaks and actual artillery It's the srrealu used in 'IIII~'..\I! when the ..-I-h(__ _n_ prh_lh|_ ummd
shells in ight. llear in mind that the laser guy is heing eaten lay ants. and it's used in _
has an att;u"k." 'lhere's a beginning, a a lut tat" westerns whenever a g\|\' gets an ar- 5l"|'Yl7mlr(l lm"l~I5' I hull lllrcv 35'
middle, and an end, all rutnhinetl. The n>\\ in llte hark. I \t.\t'tl it fur the Siurm~ sistants helping me on sturylmartls,
suund dues nut exist. You ran't go uttl aml ""t"'T \\'l\" I-\|l>' I'll"
J1" -Il'\'>>-_ almnst three sets of tlu'ee-httndred-
Iind a ratlin tuwer tn get that eurnplete H11 _\-nu >Ilm_|It yvlttr work Ill \|_m|:/ _1_/- n. lumrd (.l_|_S."
suuntl, 'l'he tuwer eahle was used fur the jeels Ix II1l[!t!!1lit 1;] 1| nrze Irrml tn u.\'1n_e -
Must of that was the sound of jet planes quiek getting the ear dunr slants and get- ll_"_r_'_ "I l'li'll- ll ll4""l '" l"1\"" '2'
taxiing amuntl the runway. 4\ gn-at deal ul mu U. |-Umslups in NW.-_\. m,_r um. 1| \t \\.|> llllt'tlI_ t ten tnmttl tu I.n>;\I1gk-
it was lirrewav tralilie nuise reeunletl
mm, rm, H, pm" sound I_Up|l, m n,u||t les. lle atlentled l'asadet|a City (Inllege antl
stup ;|m| mink t.'.l.Mi,|y_ H S hm," mm: t~nrullrd tn. sunie |nt1\_n~nt|al artt'lasses
thmugh pi||t._|ttst lots ul crazy stufli. llt-Inn
Iiitl _\'uu lmrr .m/r/ti.\'Iiruh~1I rrrurtling H for S" mm. yt.m.5- k_.ryhmh. iml lakes \\h|< h In-lprd \lt.t|tt his tare:-r.
equi/nltenl In it-1-rlr reillt? it for gfanted. .-\hnust nul>utl\ gues nut re- lll"l' l "'l"l I" l"" "" """"irl'l'I l'l
S.;",(.|_ M Um.5 up wiih mm. hr. I suun tlt:||tgt'tl |n\' tnintl." Ile then spent a
Xuthing that <I|)ltlSIl\';tlt'tl, really. I had
several .\'agras. a emtple nf Tears, a sy|ttlu'- euneepts fur an\' partirular picture. Unlv a ilmlllll "l limrl ll (llll"m'. Mllc.(l"ll-ll
sizvr. and digital delay units. I was ahle In few filtnmakersilike (ieurgv I ur \\ Stanlev "I l"i ll"'l "I Ill l"l"m"l llllslli" l""'
K"brk.k' Jud I.-mmis |.-"rd (;"mm|_|_ n._l|i7_l, grain. a hreetltng gruund Inf nian_y uhlltt
transfer quarter-irn'lt tape In mag track my
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sell. \\'e had a Kern l'ni\'ersal eight-plare ll, impurrmu. nf mun inn. wry rm persunnel wltn wurlwd at II\tl\l\'lH.tl Iaght
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a TtIlt.|l\t' ul the nrtgtnal
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During the liirst year of prmluetiutt. they //utr itruulrl \'n!l _i't1n| u/I wmr ttmrk nu AK
was
Uli "ll" (lRll)~" Ind Ill
S'I'.\R \\'.\'I'(III, a ninety-minute .\lys-
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were in\'t-nting things. I wuuhl wurl; at ltwas all interesting and it was all tnltl- TY "I Ill ""l"._. l_" -\_ll(i- ll" ""_"'l\'
hnnte and spend a little time at lI..\I slt<mt~ hall. wuultl sav that I was highl\' nmti\'at-
I ""'"ll"l"l ll"" l"5""~5 l"' (I-\l--I-l-l(i'\
rd U Mk nu prniwl mu. S-I-_\R \R5_ at II..\I under the st||>er\'isiun ul'_]ultn I)\'k~
ing emuputer readuuts fur the S|ll|l't'ltlp
tlashlmartls. \\'hen George eatne hark from
Iittrupe. we went tu San l"raneiset> where
all the editing was dune. We worked there
heing a hi_g Iantasy Ian. It was an ineretlihle
atnount uI wurk and a Int of Iun. I I.\"I'I'iR\II'il\' BY [|\llI4 .\I.~\l\'I)IiI.I.
Iur six ur se\'e|t munths just putting the 1.,.-,/../M1,," 1.-Mn.-t-.,;, /It. 1,.-.< utnzlwl ../ //I: n.-1'.11u,,./.-a.1.- Runmv.
piettire tugelller. adding sound efleels. try-
lltg nltl dillerent pieces nf rnusie. and stud-
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t'ltlg the different \'ersi<ms ul the film. \\'e
eventually arrived at what we lllnttgltt was
more ur less tlte Iinal prmluet.
ll'Iml KtlIIl[l[ yuu t':ut.ri:Irr the mnxl |m~
uxnul axjn-rt nf /mm ST/IR ll'.~lkS tt'11.\/Ht!
lngttllntr?
I wnultl say it hail In tln with the ap-
proach to the pirture. that we startetl
working un the sound long lvefnre any film
was shut, which is never dune. Usually the
sound entries last, except maybe when you
an: dealing with animation. While the ed-
iturs were editing the variuus versitms of
the picture, I would rut and mix the reels ,
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just kind of added parts to a lot of them tailed draltings
lietween design work and storylioard stuff. Iiivl you 4/o any reurlr on 1'.\'_lIln,\ion.\.'
'l'he majority of the people in the model Yes. l did. \\'e started off testing with
shop were detailers and :t$ett1l>lt'rs of ships acetylene gas and plastie models of the
that had In-en rast. 'l'he three lighters the Boeing 747 to see il that would work. \\'e
x'\\'l".\!- llll Y'\\'l"!l~ l"\ll ll\l' 'l'~l-l'l- Slllll finally ended up using just your standard
were all made up of parts that were east in squili. a mixture of gasoline and |I'|Ull\lYJllS
lnain. So it was just a matter ol assemliling and \-ertnieulite. lt gave a pretty good seale
theni. (irant and a couple of other niarhin- X|)l()it)t\_ S()|'|\g i,|' [ht-m \\;~n- glut; M
ists did tlte heavy construction work. lay- ll..\l. hut most of it was actually done utt a
ing the foundations of the ships. soundstage out in llollywood. We rented a
Ilntu mm|_\' .\t:'m'.\' teulllrl _\-on ray at-rrr stage and hung up a lvlue screen and spent
slorylmrirr/1-1/? a few days down there shooting explosions.
.\ll in all, there were proliahly one thou? lt'|'n- Ihrrr any mlrllmll lliingr 1/mt _\-nu
sand storyboard drawings that were done. ltml In llo?
.-\t one time, l had three assistants helping l did most ol tlte work on the star lield.
me on stnryl>oartls_ almost three sets of That was a tnatter of taking a sharp ohjeet
350 hoard srenes. We kept redoing them. and punrhing holes in a painted piece of
changing sltots and adding shots. l ended plexiglass. lt had to lll' redone a few times
up redrawing all the hoards that ltad lteen to get a natural-looking star elfeet.
done! 'l'he storyboard wook took well over Did you do any of!/n~ mullr ]miu1ing.r?
a year altogether, on and oil. l worked on one. l don't l>;no\\' ii it was
ll'n.\ |'I en.r\~ In _\Iur_\'Im||rIl [in- 1lugj'igIil.\'j/ ever used or not. It was one of the Pirate
In |'.r\t-nn-, \-on /lirlltut-1-flIairlouz for \'nIl Ship in the Death Star tlH<l<l!\! l*1lY~ l llllllk
i'ism1l!_\'. I ' leter lillenshaw _]r. came in later and paint-
1-||_'5 hm. ii __"..| Um. hm Gcmgl. ed over it! Ralph t\leQ\|arrie did all of the
I-.'/1.-cl:il!||;1mmr]m-jnlnulun. [M1-J5 (1.-p;,n.| [mm that r-.,mt,;n f.,.,;;,g,_- planets. They all lilended together so well.
alter a while. lle be_i;an to make up shots of you really ro\||dn'l dislimtnish lwt\\'evi\ lil-
stra. .\lany of _]oe's storyboard drawings his own. What finally got on tlte screen was lenshaw's and .\leQuarrie's work. .-\n<l they
have heen rontpiled into 'l'I|t- Slur llnrr about hall ol that original lilaek and white were Illl!lI' so well. you couldn't tell that
!n'lrI|lmuk. published by liallentine. lootage. l|n glad lte did that. l think the they were matte paintings, anyway.
elfeet he aeltievetl lay changing a lot oi the Ilnze zuuulrl you mm up your it'll!/i mt
//,,. ,/[,1 W, E,-I r-,,,m,~.-;,,[ H-[111 _\"l'_-|R shots was much nieer. .\ lot of the mo\'e- Ihejilm?
lll-IRS! l ments of tlte ships seemed to work for the lll \'5$'~Il'~'C. \\'|11Il l tlitl 011 $'l':\l{ i-'\R5
World War ll planes hut didn't work too "1t'll Willl l-\ll'1l5 llllll l7)'l1lri\1lI\<l lllkv
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When l first started on ST.-\R \\'.-\RS in ~<lx;') |;;u1\|;|';; and hm} 1),; ],|,n up_ '|]- ly wasn't. liveryone else's imagination was
August 197.1. I began he storvhoartling the
P enlargement was ahuut 3()"x 41]" ant | | kind of funneled through mine and Ralph
mill" llllllc 5'~l"'~"l"l "5l"R llll- l5"'\"\ limb painted over it. l actually ended up paint- ~\l*'Q"5\"l\"$- ll." J."-l Pl P'~'""ll <1 P3P"l'
age that George Lucas had compiled from ing out most of the photograph. autl drew tlte ideas that a lot olpeople gave
World Warlltlugligllts. The treneh model itself changed aliout us ll "5 |"l'~'Y'~5""Fl ml 1' l"l ll ll-la
ll/"U """'_" ~"'" "/-l"~""_/51"-_:' hall-way through. lt was originally wide
=\ ll "l ll \\'115 (mm ll=\l TU; 0| l5Rl- and sltallow. \\'l|en Lucas saw it alter we
il'-'\lN- 5""\ "l ll $15 lml" llRlDGl'15 -'\'l' had gotten a huneh ol shots of it. he deeid- U
'l'UK(v)v~Rl. 'l'(_)R:\l TOR-'\l TURIV. _ll_-ill etl that he wanted it narrow and deep. So
l'll-01. U33 5QU-\DR0N- "ml 5"""~' ll ll we changed the model. which meant (hang
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twelve paintings in all. They were done <n- l , W 5. '
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spaceships. (Iolin (Iantwell did some proto- hassle. l should mention that we only did U WI;
type spaceships. lle huilt them at home. ln the elleets storyboards out here. .-\ll the K: ~.
laet, they're pirtured in that photograph of live aetion storyboards were done in l-.ng- , t
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where I'm acting out a dogfight mo\'e with Ilnw zlizl you euurrlinate \-um rlrngris
the ships in my hands. They were nice. hut teillt the work of lite mmlel Imiltlen?
they were a little too sleek. kind of l\';\S.'\-
like. So we kind of romautiei1.ed thetn. .-\ll
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the sketrhes. get them okayed hy George
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some new ones were added when seript
ehanges oerurred. l did most of the model
painting and the forced perspeetive paint-
the model shop and talk to Grant .\leCune
or someone else who was assigned to that
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l did a lut of model building, hut it real-
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was llllt'tt'Ilt'lIIll1 putting across on the |)m.t|I va(|. C|IuI.uctI_.r for inm"u._
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velop his ideas at his leisure. so to speak,
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tiuti where 'tl\l'\t _i;<-i a lot of people in- wrappiiig aiitl black bands and folds
\ol\'ed and inoney's being spent at great kind of l|[(_-|-ing_ llc said 1);-1|;
rates. 'l'lieii lie wt>iiIil\'e hail to struigigle vadI.I. will he c0mig_i" kc H.
with production ilesiqiiers and all kinds of I k- I I- k I I -
NIII IIxIII_IIIA_ GCIIIIIII IIIIII IIIV sIII_I_II-II_ gut the whole picture as they were in
ideas. the Darth \'atler clitiracter for in- Um . . . I
\I staitee. Georttc tlescrilietl him as soineoiie I_III:III'IIf'III';""'.\' /"""".- 1/"! ,\"'" "11""! .\'
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I coming-in like the wind, kind of sneaky. l I
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'I'/irii I.iim.t nrnrkml t'ln.\'1'l_\' witli you in fl "."I ll _\' ll": ll") .l (ml lwl "ll ll
cn'ati'ng the i'nt'irurmi1'nt IIHII 1Ii>.vigrii'iig P".1"$ llml
paintings
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for the film. I then started work-
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Ralph .\lt'QIut77'lt. ahoiit the plot we caiiie up with some i|i- lm'lls' I II
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teresting prolileins. One of the first artioiis D -\"' -/""1 ""1 l' 'I "_"''
Callvd for in the early script was limpire
trrriplivl tu t'tl[)l|l7t' _\-niir l'l.\lll /lwsigiis on
grassy planet surface, and aliens in space .. II
5\|ii_ '1hg- lm didn; gt-i (lulu-_ ]\'u [hay troopers burning through the outer shell of /'l'";
are working on other projects. Aiiyway, the spacecraft that Luke and 3I(l were in. U-ll .d.l the mm ml" ('v'm!C Ilk-
llal and Matthew introdticetl ine to George and then we realizetl that the air would es ""l' NW5" p'""-gs "-"5 '5"IllI"l- "Ur Ul-
cape. The people iii the passagewtiy would lorts to qt! I down on paper \\li.it George I
Lucas. ahout two years hefore he actually ,I I I
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that he wanted to look at some of my stalled. In the discussions we thought we l"'"' l'l' -l" -l"l"I5lf'" 5 t
slides. lle said he was interested in doing a coultl use hreatli inasks." George coined in teriiis of our |)l'I.llllIlll;lt\'. t-florts -
science fiction liliii he didn't call it S'I.\R the phrase and he said they might lie kind H "I "","""'hI". ' -"M" wrk Hm,
\\'.~\RS at that timewith a kind of comic of ornate. ' I didn't know how ornate, or tl|lIlIQt' tnuk plmv in the t'lll|71I(ll'7't' Illt'III-
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do the filni he came and talked to me. this universe, so I gave them a technical Imir initial tlYtIlllIlQY zurre ilvtk, ulmust
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wliich was a liig surprise heeause he liatl look with tubing coming forward that 1/f""""'"' 1'2", rmm-E !'"l mm Hm"
tlone .-\.\IllRlC.-\.\' GR.4\FFI'Il in the meaIi- might support the way they are put togeth- I"'l'lI-*"""''l'' l'"""~-
I lm not
so fond of the lines' thev ttave
time, which was very successful. Naturally er and tlte way the air comes down through I I <_ -
I agreed to do what he wanted. them, with vents, etc. \_d"'I 5 helm ml I? m""k' lhml ll
What kind ofasti'qmrurit iliil \'nii get" .-Ire vmi ri'_/1'rring tn Darth l':i1li'r't mask I'll m"r'' lo cnlli""~ l\I|5 KTL'1\\IslLIe andI to
George wanted me to do what I-did for Illlll LII-lH"S snorkel tltlll'l' in llllt nfyoiir IWICP Illls l]'~'~l
than II.i jlllllg down look
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that I gave him.
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llal. just support his script with \'isuals. prclirriiiiary pairitirigs? ,
true science fiction. George called it a sci- tIt'si'giis. \""TR0p0lls .mh"l ll wuuld be Okay
But I wanted it to look male .not clum-
ence fantasy. and even the fantasy aspect
George would give me aspecific project
' sy, and not a liig robot clonipinq around
was non-traditional. Ile had a lot of ideas. He would have been happy to let me go ,. . _~ '
Ile liatl comic hook pages and nther source ahead and do something on everything in l.lh_ 3P0 I lld " lul of skkuhcs "ml l
the picture, and I almost did. Although my
thinkI. I made him quite elegant
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material lie wanted me to see. Once I gut
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to work he liked what l was doing and he renderings were not always used. Most ul UH. .0. H U m"y' H U
would come by every once in a while ' to the art I drew was used in some lomi liow-
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about the whole place was that everybotly would be repeated exactly as before. It
was really itwolved. Evervbotlv knew as may sountl tt)l"l1pltl2llL(l, but once you've
much about the lt'Illlft movie as they sat down and figured it all ottt. tt tnakes
could. That knowledge wasn't stifled. Since sense.
then, I've found that on a lot of movie sets. \\'e used a sitnilar system on (Il.()Sl". F.I\'-
they don't really want you to know any (I()UN'll-IRS OF 'l'lll'l 'l'lllRl) Kl.\'l). lt
more than you have to. ()n STAR \\'.\RS, was built by some of the people who work-
we had the opportunity to see all of our etl on the l)ykstral'lex for ST.-\R \\'.'\RS. ln
dailies every day. lt was a pretty close-knit fact. it was actually an older system. We
thing, atttl they really didn't mind if we had to use motion control equipntt-m. I
took the fifteen minutes to go watch guess tltat is Hie way to go if you're going
dailies. They knew we would put in the to tlo a lot of complex multipass moves. ln
0 time later. because we were that cnthusias- sotne instances, there would l>e!Itir1_\' min-
tic about our work. ule t'xpo.rtm's on smue shots. There wottld
lfltal u~1t.\' vour main ]'tmclt'un in the nto- he 5 mm. pass it ."u|(| mm. atmm mgr.
'l"l "WP tv minutes per frame by the time you add-
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I harl to redo the Rebel Blockade ~\l*'](]:""1' C"_"l|l"ill'-ll '-';~'YYlllllli- ll'~' \l\i15 there's a shot of sonieont-s handholdinga
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ll? opening shot' Hm, originally was "5 '"~l'!tl- Til
Ev! 1" '"l'k ml If "1 ll show up in the film very well. Originally.
gulllg l-0 be H3" Sol 5_5lllP- The Tu hi"? _q"5|ll"\5- \~'B'll Rik l1l"\- ll" \\-15"! they were going to have it move. They put
mm l l1illfl W35 lhill ll l00li(l 100 ll"? l"l'"l 0f K"Y ll-11 fcll ll! l-ll K" 5\Il"ll fiber optics in it which would act as a point
much like SPACI-Q1999, and 50 they (':lY_\l ;1"ll"'"ll"4'Y\(l;_lll~ lle l'\'11lllY light source wltett the laser beants were ro-
scralched in we ended up making it g)('t(1de:;1il:'::l |r'ens|)iti':;|.-"sf i<':(tnt;.<|:;ramtS1tt |i~t:lttt.ult was all Plcxtglass and aluminum
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lt's the small stuff that vou nti ht not out- sh , l it ft ~t, 1 . I th sh' s. . n l h '1 - <
Dave Jones is a model maker with a ta- right realize ii OH lllff Ship. lfut subcon- etlllptifuttltgtitltei stiiite1lif tlie nililds1. l(\\'tirl,t-
lull l"l' -llllllg ll'"~' llll-Tll ll) I! I1'liI\iI\ll1Y<- seiouslv \'ou are seeing that there is this de- ed on a lot of the X-wings and did all of
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"ll"Y l'lll"lll5 ill lcCllPl'~"l tail there. I think it rt-aI|\' does make it the detailing on the Y-wings. We all kind of
5i"l'~ll5 ll""'lll"P ill llllll'llll Llllll llllll more believable. l spent a good portion of pitehetl in where sotnebodv was needed.
ll-lgll ll "5 llulll lll l9'l7 ml illltllllcll the time working on the Corellian Cruiser. lh: vuu rt-mt'mIu'r [hr lirxl full \'ou /lirl
Clllllnlllla Slfllc Cllllullc ll ll'lll lll"ll- \\e called it the Star Destroyer when we u!lL.\f? i '
$'~l"l'"l= lllll J llucllcllll ll -'l'l ll"'?l'*"*' worked on it. lt was the delta-sltapedcruis- l artuallv started-ottt working on the
tn Industrial l)esign. Tltat' rt-'1\llY l"' l er that the llntpire had. The model was Death Star.'\\'e did that in a few different
E4" l""l"*7tl "1 5l=\R 1\R5- .l"ll" l)'l" about three feet long. l)a\'e Beasley and I seales. The round globe was a clear plexi-
5"-1- llll SlPl_"T"l- .ll J"l"\5l""- .l=""'~ spent about a lnontlt just doing the fine de- glass sphere about three and a half feet
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lllmulill ill l\'~15l P-1" Ul ll" l"'~l5l"-ll ll'~" the camera could pass underneath it for the initial painting on ltalf of the sphere to
5l_E Pl"'7ill"- '~'ll lllullll '""5l "l lllvm opening shot attd the lettering could be tnake it look like a metal globe with differ-
llll":l .\{""l\'1"'~_ fmlll ll"~"-ll ll i!~ !-"l picked up as large as it was. We were really ent textures and trenches on it. Then they
lmlnlng ll" illllsls lll"7 l)-'L'- uliilfl ll ll? happy about that. When we saw it at the wanted it to appear as though there was
llllnli illlll Yll" llil"'~' ll ll" lllmllgll "5 li" 35 preview, everyone was clapping. It's inlv:r- light on the surface of the globe, small
design education goes is to be able to make |ing_ at mm puim tq -n- giug m l,,,,'[,[ sm".u.s of |iQm' 5 Rah) ."|d L.mu.h
Y9"? '" l""l"lYl"~'5- l '35 illll'~' 1" ll" ml" the bottom of that ship. lt would've been through the paint and pttt a liatterv of
deli _l'illllY "3" ml l m"ll"l 3 l""l'llm'~' .lll_ll lmlll fI"l_\' fl'l'/ l"Yl,. lld llIl' l1lI1\'~l'il lights itt back of it. l put so many holes in
lll llllllllcc my illy lllllllll-all 5cll"lll' A5 ll '0'-llll ll-"'55 ""l'~'l' ll ll!-1'-Mlle '~ll1"'l "f ll\l5 that thing! l also had to extend the paint
l\l"\l}l 0111- l '35 01" "l. ll? fmll l)F<{lllf: really large object. lint when they ran the jut, ;m,ulm| ||- sittl-5 5;, \||;- [)L-;|t]| 5;;
l"l'klllli lll ll\l lll lllrl'lllll" ll_ll*:l' i\'_5l5 "ll lllc "1l"l5\l\"_'- llllll ll1|\l' 1\"ll l ll?" could rotate further during a given shot.
l'\lg"'l'l)fl_ll'lllll"'lllll1 llls |:"f"ll__ lll Sgjlll lilllfflt ll l_\1l'"<l fl"! f"\II- l)o you know the big dish that focusetl
-IR td E: lint l<Yl:;'] -l\l1 \'ll";'i]i};:; lterrnl you triivllwri Ill II11'11r!tmIjI!nt- [hc 1)-Mt guys cm.rm- n.~; ()r;gi|mlIy
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CLOSE l';'\lC0UNlll';llS Ol: Tllli TlllRD gY{s, l was. lit addition to detailing the the viiualulr 'lilil-reils linelsltot itiiilntt-ririin
Klxl-l 'llll sllcll lllllcll lllll'*'lllllll"*'l's ls models, l worked as an assistant with Ken ('inumutoqrup/trr [pp 71"] that shows "t
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mt mail lip? rknfu. n]';)_rf vl";ll"r1l:l.;'. were programming. so that the l)ykstral'lex painting that Ralph .\leQuarrie had origin-
51.3" Ur ml Hen ll ml I. ' J had a quick aeeess to the ntL'tnor\' svstem, allv done of the Death Star. but it was flat.
hcli l llmdumcll l Sl1lr.l.l.lll"rkl"-li ills" the infonnation could also he broitzrzt-Itttvtetl The\ decided that tht'\' wantt'll llll llliml
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alllal; llvrl"l"'ll lnlilllllill. 1. !.k _7 . chip in a calculator. lf we wanted to "save" "1"" <l\l"_ll- lllllilllli \\'l"~'" ll"Y l\"'ll*'ll ll
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1111111: 11u1 i11 II11: lI..\I pnrkiiu; I111. 'I'h1' $1111 i1 111111 11-1-1l |.1lk .1|11111l lI11~ 1'1-1.-Ii11g.\' h1- l1.1d
was used as 1111' kvy Ii_1:l1l.'Il11"yl1;11l;1l11'1"k 1111 il. Il1~ \\';1s kind 111' .111 1'.1sy-14111111; 14113.
01:1 time p11si|i1111i11_1g tI11: 51111. II jusl 1Ii1I11'l (11111 11111111 11'l11-11 I)1-1111i> ;1111l K1-11 111111
w:1|1| I11 I111I1l still! (;c111-1;1- ;111d I \\'1-r1- s|.1111I1111; 1I11'r1- .1111I |.1lk-
lI11.1'11'! II11~r1' 11 /1r11I1I1-111 111 1111111-I11'11'1_' 1'.\" i111; ;1I11111l 11 sI1111 \\'1- 111-11 14111111; 111 d11 11-1*
pI11.1i1111. f1'I1111-1/ in .1'1111I1'gI1I 21111/1 lI111.1"1~ I/1111 I1.11l 1h1' $1111-y|111.1r1Is i11 1>11r h.111ds .,\'111111- :1 Cl
14-pp,-filym-1I11111111-? 11111111; 14111" 1'.11111' \\'.1Il1i111; in, I .111]11'11.11l111I
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1h;1l 1i1111'. 11'.1s 1'\'1'11 IilllL' C,
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(.111 I1c 1:11l11r-1:11rr1:1"lc1I. \\'I11:r1-11$ if \'1111 1111 l\'l'\\' '1" /1" >'*'|~ II l\"|"'ll ""| I" l"'
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1111 11'\'1:r\'lI1i1111 1111 1111' 11ri_11i11:1I l11'1:;1li\'1.-_ i1 zirc l;1irl1 q11111l l'1'i1-111I>. II1' i11s1 i1111'111I111"1-1l
has 111 I11 1111: pr11|1cr 1*11l11r 111 l1v_1gi11 11-ilh. him .15 S11-1'1-," .111di1 \\.1s 111111 I.1l1"r 111111 I
'I'I11:r"s 1111 11';1\' 111 1"11rr1:1"1 f11r lhc 1IiI'11'l'- 11111111111111 11-1111 h1' \\'.1s. _]111- \'isk111"iI I11-g:111 11'11rkin_1; |1n111'ss11111-
Cmt111IigI1lIl\g. I111! ;1'11rI.' 1111 1111- 1\I111/11-r.1I11'/1 /'11r my in 11- ,1-(iA,| L-|'(.-111,, [31-111 ,,|, 1-'|_11_||
l1<r1' \'1111 1111 [I11 .1I11111If11r 1I111.n' 11111 (_'l41)_\/-_
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of hill ' I'll l"' 'l' "1 "'r"' I1:|1-1 .\111I1-1'1111. I1;1rr\' .\lI11'i1;hl.111.1\'I11~six is .1 51-I1-1111111111 |111\v1I1'1 111.111." 'Il11-r1' 1111'
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llmcs "ml H315 llmy l"-Ii "xpl"' """l 1111:1'iI111i111;111'1I11-\I11ll11'1'sI1i11 111 I1-'1r11 1111- 111111 I|'~ s111111-1hi111; 1-1111
si1111s. Wc did 1-x|1I11si1111s 1-111-ry 11-:11" Y4!" I1 1-1111 i1111I1l 1'1'111gI1- 11111 11111'1'111'1'1I1-111 I/1111 1111-11 111 I1-'1r11 1111 \'11111' 11\\'11 11111 \'1111 I1 111'
r0u'I11 pnssihly i111;1_1;i111'! I11ili:1II1'. \\'l"l r1'11II\"1'111/11'r1-1l \'111- 111 1/11 1/11 :1~11r/1 \'1111 1l1'1l 111 k111111' s111111'1111ri\\'l111 '1lr1"i1I\ I1 is 1 I'\'r11
lung ll": 'l"l~ I" [mm "I Ih" ll" 5""'~"" [11 1/11"11111111-11/1111/1_ :1I111I :1-1111I1I1'I I11? (I;1r1l' 11-1111 will I1'| 1-1111 1-x111-ri1111-111."
5 hm the l"l "5 5li"l""rI" ml ll ()111' i111'i1l1-111 h:1d 111 1111 with II1~11 Burl! ]111.- 1ls11 1I111'\1 111i11i1l111'1'\" 11111d1~l~1\'111k
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RI(li"l lillllllml ""1|ll.\ll\ 5I"'1"l c1|"'Y1\ |"' 111' lhc first p1'r>1111.s $'I'.\R \\'.\I{S .11'l\1.1II\' 1'\'u1'.1l .\I.1rl\' I'r111'I1 .|l\lI'(I.|\'-lIl1|1'l\<
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ing 511 1';1sl !l\;1l 1.-\'1:11 :11 J00 Ir;11111:s 111-1 .\"1.'1'- $111110 slill pl1111111_v1'.1pI11' l'11r 11>, 11111Ilh1'11l11- 'l'III-, I.0.\"I', l".\R~()I"| $][\(jI-_ Xl"lS JI] 1|
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dowii! I\I11sl 111 111111 11111111111: did11'1 1:11 1.-1l'1-1'15 1111' 1h1-sI1111\'. I 1'1.~1111~111I11-1'11111.-1i1111- |1I1'l1'1I 1h1~ 1~x|1l11si1111s 1111- (l.\l..\(I'I'I(I.\ .11
us1:11. 'Ih1'11 11'1" \ri1-d 11111111111; 5111111 $Ili|lS 1111-1' \\'1~11111111111lI11-.1i1'r.11'1-s.1111l1'1-11111|1-11 II..\I. .1111I \\'111I-11-1| 1111 II(.I\ I{()(;l'.RS_ .1
d11\\'11 :1 14111110 wire 11111.1 1'Xpl111li111.g lI11.'111 as dil'11~1'1.~111 .\'11l|l1ds 1'1-11111 I-:'1|.~1 .1111l .1ll lI\11s1'. 'I'\'-11111\'i1" 1111' I11i\'1-1'>1.1I. (I11rr1~11|ly_ 111- 15
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01'II1u.11' gut in lhc 11111\'ic. lI\' 1hc11, '1: d1'- things |11\1s1' I'11r1l1c I'ir.1l1' Ship,
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right. TIMER 1\'1-r1: <'11\1|1I1' 111' X ;1111l \'-
11 Y.1111;1h;1 $111-.1l\11'.\' i11 [I10 111111l1~I shop .11 1'\'1-1-1' s1'ic1111' 110111111 1iI111 1*\'1~r111.11l1-I "I'1I
wings I1I11\\'i11g 11p. \\I1c11 llu-\' \\'1'rc11111\'i|11; limv. \\'I11'11' 111-11 |1111 \h.1l 511111111 1111, 11
ll11: Iikvs 111 111-;1r .1II 111' 1111' 11-1111; 11111'.1r1I >'1'i1'111"1'
un the _gui1Ic 11'ir1's. :1ll 1111: |1i1'11:s k1.-pl 1.1111111; was jusl 1'.1111;1s1i1'! \\ 1' \1~1~1-1' .1II sillinu 1I1c1'1- 1:11111i11111:d p:11;1- (Ill, 1'11h111111 .1
in the s;11n1' dir1:cti1111. I lhink it I1111ks111111"l1 lryimg 111 rrv;1l1~ 1111-s1' lilllc 111i11i;11\1r1's.
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wIi.it's ealleil .i Sperial 'l'itaii llleiiil." It is iiiisltilgii" ,\i-it-iii-i'_/it-liiiii filni?
a uas explosion, so that .ifter the partieles Possilily. ll is an lioinaige to all the atl-
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[hm |-H. H." dm._ Jud | min}; it wmcd. in Saiisalito with his wife .\IeretIttlt and two jrom (I t'Tt'fll't' [IUIIII oj i'iiii'!
otit well. Ily the way. that little explosion tlatigliters. and is eiirreiitly prepariiti; the Y IIIIIIIII-!YI'IIII<I I5_"II III" I*"'IIIII"II II"-
is the same type of explosion iiseil iii the prutliietioit of S'l'.'\R WARS II. I~1I\1lI1II'I'IIIII- III'"IIII"II"II III""-IllI'Y- f'IIII"Ii
final shot of the Death Star, so you can see antl a host of other tasks. lntt l think on
the tIifft'!'t'ittL' in ii ht-iirtg plioioii-r;iplit~ii live ii',,_,~ ;/N M,-,-/,;,',,,, U] 5'/_.|R ty_.|R$ II\i$ fill" II }\'1I$ "W J"I1_ I" WI lI\1Il GI'I1Y.I!\'
anti applieil to miniatures. 4\I| the other ,,<[[\- ,1,,,- ;,, 1],, n; Hm; ,,-,-,- mu ,,,,_ IIIIII '~'Tl'IIIIIIK III I~'(I"I"'II 5" III~I'"III\I!lI:I
li\'e-at'tion explosions were iloiie in I".iig- ,/hi, ,,[\,,',_, I I/Z ,,,,,;.,',rx Hm, W, Im,-._ oii aiitl tlo what ht ean do liest. tlireet. 'I his
lantl hy _lolin Stears aittl his erew. HIM), ,'"[I'1 M TI; ' film was pre-pIanne_il to the iitlt tlegree and
IJi'iI _\-on ii-nrlr i'lnxil_\' ieitli /.IIt'.Y)? George jttst saiil \\'ottliIn't it he gr;-M if with these pre-set lintits antl logistics hail
No. I saw hint a hantlful of tiiites at Hm". was J (>IIllrc!l4-IRIS, (;Un|(m (mp to leaye hiin free of any prohlenis. I_thtl_a_r-
most. Ile wotiltl he talkiiiig with l.ogan UL. p|yi"g m"..}.n._-- \.|1_ hut. .uS_ with lox a lot, lnit I lll.'Illl'\\'I\lI it. lhis
more than he woulil with iiie. liera\ise_ of n-l 5" we |L.(.ih.d m milk. it m",c|\.,_.s_ we a pirttire that George partieularly likes
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the eamera setups. Ltieas is a very mtl<I- |i_."Scd it an mmgh "H. |kim:f;\M_ to make. In fact we Imtlt prefer smaller
maimeretl persoii. very siift~s|iiikert. _IIe ER1C__\N (;R_\|:|.-|-|~| and did U. ..|mim1 films with fewer crew members aittl he
talked hriefly with me as to what he (I like n___n_| mm hm, we muld ht uh! m up likes shooting in a semi-tloruiiieiitary style:
to see. tiiitl more or less gave me ftill reign Cumpmh H, en-'__(_s T w;m,d_ hit! we knew all this hefore starting_ the
to do what l really wantetl. George has picture auid I know that he fouiitl it limit-
really given me the creative freedom to , , ing. so I made it as trouble free for him as I
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\\'""<l 41$ Y|1"|'Y'"""5 'il|\ llll fill" iIl1l\I- tlirert. lle's tml llllsl .lt the lnunlenl \l'l>rk- |ll.lke .l|l\'llne lgll l)\l\ zlnll lillll slllnethillg
ll)'- int; on 16min exp:-ritnent.ll films. l'll like f<lrlllelllsel\'e.~l.
lt was also II rzlse llf <lislinl1\lishin_l; wh;lt
juh title they sllllnhl he e:llegnri1.ell llnller.
ln lnnst nluvies nune of these peuple get 1|
cretlil alnywlly. .\l0st erellits rlln fur 30
feet. Ours rlln funr nlilllltes [lilill feetl . Tn
J eertllin extent. the larir!_\' eomment was
an oversight, hut the stlltliu tlitl eul some
llf the credits as they thought they were
tlm lung. l'm all ill fzlvur of giving erellit ..
where it's due. hut l'ln nnt sure jllst lluw
mueh ll screen eredit helps the leelllliclll
side of the inrlustry. .~\ resllnle is lnlleh
more impurlzlnt frum their puint ufeiew.
Wax l|Y|_\'llIl1I_L' taken nu! u_/i lIlt' film in
the l'rIilin_e llllgex I/ml _\'II|l llllllll Irma" lill'
ell In lI1ll't Xtl!l in tIu'j'inr'.rIlerI film?
We took nut Ll llll of things fur time re.lA
I sons. hut :l Int we didn't even Si\Ut>I. From
the sereellpluy we lk out :1 lung seene on
the \\'oukie's planet that in\'ol\etl uhllut 20
of them. We rlitl shunt the scenes of Luke's
i friend who leaves tojoirl ill tlle fight and is
killed at the climax. hut it sluwed down
\ the earlier part rlf tlle film and was excised
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