Pua
Pua
Pua
1. select a target
2. opener
3. time constraint
4. neg
5. dhv
6. disarm obstacles
7. isolate target
8. create emotional connection
9. #or kiss close
DHV'S
From El Topo:
““Hey guys, I have got to ask you, my friend Michelle and I were here (or some other place, any
place public really) he other night and there were these two making out in the middle of the
walk way… (light tap on the arm) No seriously listen (I qualify them during the opener to
maintain their attention, this is important, because if you can control their state then you can
capitalize on that massively)
What I she always like this?
No but really they were like in the middle of the walkway. I like totally don’t get how people
think that is like ok.
(Change state to something more intimate)
You know like when I was dating my ex-girlfriend, she is a dancer, we would, like to be
together at places, and sometimes but we had a booth or something.
(access if the state change in comfort hooked and jump thread, if not back to attraction state and
continue with opener and attraction threads)
Like seriously next time I see that I am going to go up to the guy and girl and give them a
condom or something.
After in the group, usually within 30 seconds if I haven’t hooked comfort yet.
You can keep going with but you can usually jump from there, but if you do want to continue….
Like I when I walked by you guys, just out of the corner of my eye I caught you guys and I kind
of caught that vibe.
You know how you just kind of get that from people?
Transitioning
(here is the key to a transition, they should be done smoothly, you stack should script that, like
everything you say should bait them further into your stack. At this point I have a lot of stuff
going on. I have I am from Hawaii (get a reaction), I have DHVs of hanging out with my
friends who are women. I have an ex that is a dancer. I have intuition about people that notices
the ‘true beauty’ of people, and a slight cold read on them. So I can transition and build in any
of those ways. So how do I want the night to go… am I looking for and SNL, do I want to go for
a Day 2, Do I want a fuck buddy, do I want to try and find a girl that I can just have fun with
and keep me company, or maybe I am thinking about settling down and want to find a girl I
really like.
This is perhaps the most important part of HOW your game is played right here.
Right here, you should have attraction and slipping into comfort. But one thing Sinn brought to
the community is that they all interact with each other. Attraction weaves through Comfort, and
it even makes it into Seduction. They are cyclical, they are all prominent enough to be their own
thing, but they all work with each other many times all three at once.)
So here is my qualification
(also at this point you should have social isolation within the group, if not it would not be
impolite to isolate her)
“Hey you know what, you guys are cool, I can tell form just…
So what do you do when you’re not hanging out at (name venue)?”
“Wow, really. That’s actually really cool, my friend Ishtar does (name their answer) and he is
like the most… together person I know. Like I am a Photographer, Like I have a cool job, and I
get to travel all over the place, but Ishtar has got something, you know, something that I want.
He’s like so grounded with himself.”
Ok, here is the thing; you don’t have to say you’re a photographer.
I have a job and skill that is normally ‘socially’ cooler than most people’s jobs.
The reason why I bring them up in their occupation is because it helps align my comfort. Then
they are framed to play to me. Right now very lightly, but later it gets really big. Kind of like,
what I do with my life is really beautiful and passionate, I will give you a taste of it, so you can
se how beautiful it is. So now you see how important it is for me to do what I do, so you have to
help me maintain it. So it will develop a Harem or Servant Comfort. See all that to explain, what
a frame does. In fact you could incorporate that all into a cold read too to give them more
identity with it.
So let’s say you have a job that is ‘socially’ uncooler than most people’s jobs. You can transition
in many ways. But it is not the job that defines the interaction. Your job is not your identity,
notice I don’t’ talk about my job I talk about my values. With that in mind here is an example if I
were to get somebody who had a ‘socially’ cooler job.
“Wow, really that is amazing, you know when I was a boy I used to dream about that. (or let’s
say is a female exclusive job, you should go into a similar story about how when you were
young your friend, sister, mom, aunt dreamt of that of was that) Then you need to manufacture a
story about it.
Transition into so when you were young did you always know how this was going to be?””
“My uncle's a sex therapist. Women are the only sex who have an organ solely for sexual
pleasure.It would make sense then, that since women get more pleasure out of really good sex,
THEY should be acting more like predators.”
“lets go screw with some people.” [used to turn a sarge into an instant pivot]
C&F lines/Negs
“You are so baaaaad”
"There goes my fantasy! You're supposed to go to work everyday while I lay on the couch
watching soaps. Then, when you get home you can cook me dinner while I fill you in on the
soaps. This is never going to work.
“Why would I get you a drink? I don’t know you from a hole in the wall.”
“Your losing points for drinking a fake arse beer”
“Note to self...dont date this girl”
“Is that a new fragrance called “Bar Smoke?””
“how old are you? 23? Thats like 29 in girl dog years.”
“its your birthday? I even got you a present....ME.”
(to an older woman) “I'll be your boy toy.”
If your life was a movie, what would it be rated?
Anti-CB lines
"Women are great at keeping things separate. They have friends that they just
shop with, friends that they just drink with and friends that they can do
anything with. Same with relationships. There are guys that make great
boyfriends, guys that are just for fucking and guys that they would marry.
Girls can keep those guys separate. But, men aren't like that. Most men (and
when you say MOST MEN it implies you are not one of them) can't do that,
they get hold of a woman and then start bugging her 24/7 or there are other
guys that can ONLY fuck a girl and then leave her."
Isolation
-100% Perfect girl story
-Favorite Body of Water then one word to describe it.
Favorite Color then one word to describe it.
Favorite Pet then one word to describe it.
(My answers: ocean=limitless, blue=relaxing, dog=playful)
Water/Color describe you, pet describes ideal lover.
-Trust Test.
-Dye my soul patch/goatee blonde?
-Strawberry fields.
-“Looks not enough” A3 routine.
-You know how you told me earlier how your dream is to (insert dream job)?
Well, I
didn't want to mention this earlier but....(pause)
Girl: What?
Well, I work with a lot of successful business owners and you reminded me of them
when you were talking about that. I really believe you can do that...
“Let me see your hands,” I pick them up, turn them over, and look at her
palms. Tell her how
the left hand is controled by the right brain, and how the right
brain is the artistic side, where intuitive, erotic, creative and spiritual thinking come from. The
right hand is controlled by the left brain, and thats where 1ogic, reason, and language look. And
when I look closely at her hands (1ight kino on palms here). She, like most people, has deeper
and more complex lines
on her right hand, and this reflects how strongly our society has
repressed our natural, intuitive, erotic self--the part that truly
allows us to develop personally and spiritually.”
ask her about going into the bathroom with that guy(or whatever sexual
exciting experience), what inside her told her that it was okay, what about him
triggered that response in her, how deliclous it was to be naughty, etc.
Qualifying
*For SNL's: Whats going on later? Did you drive? By yourself? “It's getting late..”
Grounding Story
Phone/txt Game
"i'm just trying to figure out if (Name) is more than a pretty face. Is she
adventurous? Is she spontaneous?"
"Hi chick, I'm puzzled. You didn't strike me as the kind of woman who would deliberately
interrupt her own opportunities..... especially when the first tastes felt so good... so I'm just
wondering what happened in your environment to force you to keep missing out. Here's my
number: xxxxx"
Full Closing:
Riker's Rules: “If we're going to do this we have to promise ourselves 3 things..The first is that
we have to be safe and use a condom. That's very impotrtant to me. The
second is that has to be something we both really want to do. The third is
that you have to be able to wake up in the morning and be happy you did this,
and feel good about yourself every time you get that tingly feeling during the day
and think back on this night. So..lets take this easy and slow. That way we'll
know what we have to look forward to next time, and some of that awkward pressure will
be removed.”
Openers:
“Hey its looks like the party is over here!” (to target) “if i wasn't gay, youd so be mine”
”how do you all know each other?”
“Did you see those girls fighting outside?”
Cologne opinion
My neighbor just bought 2 dogs, and she wants to name them after a 80's or 90's duo. Do
you have any ideas?”
Jealous girlfriend
Opinion, friend invited for talk show about secret admirer
Crappy sketch artist: draw stick figure, then say ”your beauty has inspired me to high
art.”
Pretend someone is a a movie star
“High five”
“would you please stop touching me?”
opinion: i was on the net and found out the average American woman is 5'4 , 150 and
wears size 14.”
“PEZ?”
Awwww so nice hair.. is it real (pull hair) HEY! It moved! Aww its nice anyway!"
(pretending
you still think its fake but trying to be polite ;)
“How many 9’s are in 100?” tool them into saying "i dont do math". and you reply, "this
isnt rocket science, its called COUNTING." the answer is 20 BTW.
Elvis opener
"I'm curious ... have you seen the movie Poltergiest? Do you think the movie was based
on complete fiction or was there some truth to it?"
"You think spells work?"
"What's your first impression of this? <show them something >"
“Did you know Ghandi was a lawyer? Did you know he was from England?”
How high are those heels?
Thats some pretty serious(article of clothing, or standout feature) you got going on there.
Mixed set:1 guys, bunch of girls: “Dude, you are so the player! 1 guy and X# of girls?
How does he do it?
- "Who is the leader here?" (They all point) Say playfully to leader, "What qualifies you
to be in charge?" "Do you know what alpha means?"
-. "Do you guys want to see a magic trick? Alright, close your eyes." (Take cute girl by the
hand away from the group while everybody’s eyes are closed. Do not return.)
5. "You see that group over there? They said they are more fun than your group. Please prove to
me they are mistaken."
6. "Where have I seen you guys before? Were you at so and so’s party? The one where the
stripper gave a lap dance to the clown."
7. "I bet I can use my Psychic powers to figure out how everybody knows each other. Mmmmm
let’s see. I am getting a vibe. Yes there it is. You are all members of the same nudist club. I can
tell because you are very comfortable with each other but not comfortable with your clothes.
(Whisper to girl) "Which guy is the biggest?" "Really, I would have never guessed. Of course it
is what you do with it that counts. Which would you prefer? A guy with a big dick or a guy with
a medium dick and five years of massage school?"
9. Approach one group member. Make friends. get that person to introduce you to everybody
else.
10. "You guys aren’t a bad looking group but you could be better if you applied some Feng Shui.
11. "Hi, I’m CPowles10" (Shake the hands of those closest to you - but not everyone) "So what
are you guys talking about?" Do this right and they will all presume you know someone else in
the group. If you get called on it you just look like a bold confident man.
(you say Hi, she says Hi back but keeps moving) “Don’t let a friendly HI go to waste! Stop and
talk to me.”
(Catching her looking) “Hi, I just couldn’t help noticing you…(pause)… STARING at me!” (let
sink in) “Do you always maintain such strong eye contact? Or only with guys like me that you
can’t help it with?”
Women’s weird styles are easy targets for cocky & funny openers/comments.
“Ok, well if I see you start foaming at the mouth I’m calling an ambulance”.
“I’ll bet you only shaved one leg to wear that skirt…or did you shave both legs? Prove it! Is
your other leg as sexy as this one?” (Get her to let you feel/caress other leg to make sure it’s
shaved)
“Wow, that’s a huge purse. You don’t have some little dog named Precious in there, do you?”
“So what’s with the big purse, are you carrying a gun in there?”
(After labor day, and she’s wearing white) “Hey, you’re not supposed to wear white after Labor
Day! I’m gonna call the fashion police on you! What’s your name, I’m gonna report you right
now.” (if she resists) “Come on, what’s your name? You can’t run from the law, sooner or later
they’ll catch you.”
(later) Well you better go see the fashion police anyway, you know, do the right thing and turn
yourself in. Just don’t show up in bell-bottoms, you’ll get more charges laid against you.”
(Bumps into you) “Hey WHOA…hands off the merchandise!” (pause) “You know what, you’re
cute, I changed my mind…just don’t touch the hot spots, OK? Try to control yourself until we
get to know each other a little more”.
(Bumps into you and says sorry) “It’s ok. I know you were just trying to pick me up. You know,
if you want to meet me all you have to do is say hi… you don’t have to physically hit me.”
(haha) “I mean it, that’s my WEAK arm you bumped into”.
(Woman walking behind you) “Stop following me, I’m getting that stalker vibe from you!”
(pause while she snaps out of her likely daydreaming) “And stop staring at my ass!” (I wasn’t
looking at your ass!) “Come on, I can feel your eyes burning a hole in the back of my pants!
You can take a snapshot of it for $4.99…as long as it’s for your personal enjoyment. Don’t show
it to all your friends.”
(Woman walking behind you or standing behind you) “Hey are you staring at my ass??”
(Woman walking behind you) “Hey are you stalking me? I’m so tired of hot women following
me around all day, it gets annoying.”
(she says Hey, I’ve seen you at __________ ) “Oh, so you were checking me out then?”
(If girl’s been around a while) “Are you shy or something? Because I’ve been standing here for
around ten minutes and you still haven’t said Hi to me.”
(blah blah) “Every time I go some place women get all shy around me, since I’m such a good-
looking, sexy man…As you can see.”
More Openers:
ARE YOU SHY?
Are you guys shy? I’ve been standing here talking to my friend for like 5
minutes now and you still haven’t said ‘hi”.
Walk up to a girl BLATANTLY and hold the book up in front of your face so she
can easily read the title. She might start laughing, depending on how you do
it.
Then slowly lower the book and read the lines. "So... come here often" in a
super player voice. She will crack up and answer you. Break your "smooth" look
on your face and quickly bring the book back up and read the next line "What's
your sign?". She will laugh again and probably answer.
Then I usually say "Wow... this works great. Your turn". It puts her on the
spot. You can flip to random pages and do tons of role-play... the breaking up
stuff is great.
Eventually just stack with a relationship related opener, and you're in. I've
done this a ton of times and it never fails to open.
women)
DENTAL FLOSS (Style and Mystery)
Hey guys, I need to get your opinion on something. It's very important, and we
need a woman's perspective. It's a matter of life and death.. My friend and I
were having a debate and your answer could completely change my entire life....
I don't know what her natural hair color was, I'm not Cliff Claven, but can you
picture that these two every couple of weeks would dye their hair black
together around a dirty sink in some sick mass-appealing ceremonial ritual? I
bet people never considered that before ... did you?
Alternative:
Did you know that all Elvis had to do to get a shag was look directly into the
girl's eyes and smile?
Then look into the chick's eyes and smile.
Then you can use what info and opinions they give you to bust on them, using
all the usual stuff.
blah, blah, blah. (if she says young Elvis bust on her for being shallow)
Get this, my roommate lived in Graceland for a year and he said the craziest
thing. He told me that the fat Elvis impersonators always got the hottest
chicks, and the young Elvis's were always alone. I couldn't believe it at
first, but I thought about it, and it kinda makes sense. I guess women just
lose all control when the see a fat Elvis impersonator doing "hunka hunka
burnin' love."
Just go up and just tell them how they would look EVEN BETTER to you. "Wear
your hair open", "open that up one more button", or just fix their clothes.
tell her what would look amazing on her.
Train your eye to look for imperfections and what to do against them. For the
clueless, get two-dozen model magazines and look through the pictures SEVERAL
times so you get some idea. Try to make up negs for these girls and point out
what would look better on them (the model magazine idea is cro_badboy´s)
This sets an interesting frame. first of all, you are teaching her how to
please you, if she reacts well, praise her for being a good puppy. Second, it
is obvious that you are the prize, that you have standards and that you know
what you want.
Women love the idea of seducing you, you just gotta teach them HOW and they
will comply.
From there, it’s easy to launch right into a routine (for example you can talk
about what and how much clothes say about people and cold-read her right there.
whatever you want.)
G-STRING (Badboy)
“Hey guys, you won’t believe what’s going on with a friend of mine and his
girlfriend. They’ve been dating each other for six months now, and my friend
really loves her. But they had this big fight a few weeks ago, and she went to
visit her mother to cool down.
While she was gone, my friend was so depressed, that he ended up hooking up
with some random girl he met in a club.
Anyway, a few days later, his girlfriend comes back, and she finds this girl’s
thong panties in the bathroom, and she KNOWS this thong isn’t hers.
So she confronts my friend on this, and he lies and says that the panties are
his! And that he likes to dress up in women’s underwear. So I don’t know if his
girlfriend knew he was lying and just wanted to punish him, or if she really is
into this or not, but she said she thinks that’s really kinky and wants him to
wear women’s underwear around the house.
So he’s been doing this for a few weeks now and is absolutely…
MISERABLE!”
“So I think he should just come clean and let his girlfriend know what
happened.
What do you guys think? How important is trust in a relationship?
Or do you think some things should remain hidden, even if it means being
miserable?”
FEMALE ROOMMATES (Tenmagnet and TylerDurden)
I've been offered this *SWEET* place in (x place).. I want to live there,
*BUT*..... I have to live with FOUR girls. Like *FOUR*. I'm going to get 4
times the boyfriend complaints; I'll never get in the fucking bathroom... I'm
gonna have to start showering at the truck stop, and you KNOW they're gonna
synchronize. (Smile knowingly) Heck, I'll probably start *MY* period. I'm going
to have to leave the house for 5 days a month!
Did you know that's why primitive civilizations developed camping? All the
women in the tribe would synchronize and the guys would look up at the moon and
be like "The antelope are moving now, we must HUNT".
Also... living with all those girls, I could get RAPED. Did you know that 95%
of guys that get date raped commit suicide in 6 months? Girls are such sexual
predators... (sexual predator routine stuff below)."
Approach Girls
26 – I need your opinion. Do I look better with my glasses off (take glasses
off) or with my glasses on (put glasses on). (I put like a fun/playful face
on).
*Run with the rest of the opener above.
Trouble Shooting
If a girl asks you to put them on and off too many times I would do one of the
following:
- I’d put them on and off again, but act goofy (make faces…whatever)
- Oh my god. Again? (Playful). Then I’d do it again (don’t know if this is a
good idea, what do you guys think?)
- Say to the girl who didn’t ask: Wow. Is she always like this? Takes a long
time to make decisions?
PUA: (to guy) This girl is so shy, but she really wanted to meet you!
Both girls were very hot and totally stuck up before I did this. Both of them
came back and talked to me several times during the evening, to tell me how
crazy I was...
oh cool... shit, you need one too... I'll call you "devious honey g
sweetness"...
This is, in fact, the exact wording I used to open Schematic's HB9 on Saturday
night. I opened her and I let him take over and #close her. (He should have
gotten more. Bad schematic. Oh well, I'll call her later. Maybe)
You don't even need to say anything to open, so this works in the loudest
clubs.
You walk up, of course making sure to keep your BL under control. (Shoulders
away, etc.) You check her out then make a face like you aren't happy with what
you see. Then you hold your hands out like you're judging her style. You move
in SLOWLY, pick some article of clothing (hat, shirt, etc. Best if it's upper
body or head) and PRIMP it. Take her hat and TWIST it ever so slightly. Now,
back away, lean back, look her over, and give her a thumbs up.
Continue with push/pull if you wish... "But wait..." and twist the hat back the
other way. If she touches her hat, bust her for messing it up.
Tell her she's allowed to be seen with you now, and promenade her around the
club.
Pretty fun and opens easily. To give credit where credit is due, it's just a
variation on "Are you rich?", which I think TD came up with.
SEATTLE GF (TylerDurden)
"Hey guys, I need an opinion. My friend met this girl in Seattle, and they
really hit it off. They wound up hooking up on the first night, and he even
hung out with her in L.A. over the next week. So he's up visiting her in
Seattle last week, and they're out on a walk. He takes a few pictures of them
together. Like really cute ones with them together. Some of them they're just
hanging out, and a few of them they're like kissing or whatever while they're
out walking.
Anyway, the next morning he wakes up, and checks his camera. He looks at the
pictures, and he sees that she's woken up before him and gone into it and
deleted the pictures where they're kissing, and left the ones where they're
just hanging out. He goes to her and says 'Are you psycho? Why are you going
into my camera?' She says its because she thought she looked bad in the
pictures, and didn't want him to have them. But he can't figure out if she's
psycho or if its legit that for girls they just hate having pictures out there
where she doesn't look good. He just really liked them because he likes her and
doesn't judge the pics like that."
"It's totally natural. I hate it when pictures make me look bad, especially
with a digital camera where you can just delete them and take more." (They also
sometimes say "But he's only known her a few months. I wouldn't do that on a
guy I just met.")
-or-
At this point you can just go on and talk about The Simpsons for a while.
Papa: Cooool. Me too!! Hey, you go first. [pointing back to me] Fire away.
Papa: [if not complimented] Just kidding...[if complimented, skip the just
kidding] Actually, I came over here cuz you looked like [compliment +mini cold
read].
Papa: Ahh. You Aussie chicks rock. You know, I just had to stop you cuz you
looked like someone interesting to talk to as you look so chill and calm, and
someone just had to come over and enjoy the view of the pier and opera house
with you. I'm Papa.
This kind of direct approach opened consistently and the game played out well
because I'd continue from there with lots of ball-busting, playful kino, and
conveyed a lot of fun.
Most of the time, I didn't get compliments from the girls, but I'd get
something like this rolling:
Papa: [credit RJ, Style, and Playboy to helping to create this opener] Excuse
me...are you someone confident enough to accept a compliment from a complete
stranger.
"The reason I'm asking is because my friend over there met a girl in a club
last week. He wasn't interested in her sexually, because she wasn't really his
type." (Here the woman might say "Sure," in which case you reply "No, really!"
and touch her arm or waist.) "Anyway, she hung out at his house and after she
left, he found a metal ring wrapped around a scroll and some feathers under his
couch. Well, he took it to a magick store and they said it was an attraction
spell. And now, the strange thing is, he can't stop thinking of her. Do you
think it's the spell or just psychological?"
Here’s the deal…my nineteen-year-old sister wants to get her boyfriends name
tattooed on her shoulder.
See that’s the problem she's really strong headed and when I tell her not to
get the tattoo it just makes her want to get it even more. How do I deal with
that and let her really know its mistake?
ONE of them has the best hands of any guy you've ever met. The other is an
incredible dancer. Which one do you pick?
Same scenario. Again, the two guys are identical. One makes you laugh more than
anyone you've ever met. The other is the most incredible kisser you could ever
in a lifetime encounter. Which one do you pick?
Same scenario: One guy has more money than Bill Gates. The other makes you feel
like you are the most beautiful, desirable woman who ever walked the face of
the planet. Which do you pick?
(blah blah blah) if she says no say What if it was a really cool wheel chair?
Ideal Guy/E.V.: "I think its an absolutely fantastic feeling to get to know another human
being. And what's really stimulating, is to learn what someone else thinks of major
issues revolving around us in this world… and discovering what's important
for her in life. So if I were to ask you, what do you really value and what's
important to you in a relationship, what would you answer?" If she replies with
ends values (feeling loved, understood) - bingo! Be the one to make her feel
that (by incorporating that into talk about yourself. If she replies with means
values (the means of achieving ends values - like a strong, brave man... to make her feel
what? you need to find out!), do some additional asking: "And what does it feel
like to have a relationship with such a guy?".
“beauty is common, but a good outlook is rare. what do you have inside that separate you
as a mere face in the crowd?”
handwriting analysis
best friends test
the lying game:4 true statements and 1 lie about her house or car, but not out loud. (watch
eye movements, differ when lying.)
c shape vs. u shape smiles. Britney=c shape=good: Christina Agularia=u shaped=bad
Inside knowledge:“you may act tough but youre extremely sensitive on the inside. If
someone makes a negative comment about you, you'll act like it
doesnt matter, but youll think about it all the way home. Your a
really sensitive person, but most people dont get to see that side.”
“at some point in your life, you had an experience where you were asked to
become an adult before you were ready and it was difficult.”
”your smarter than you let on. In certain situations you know exactly what to say,
but dont say it, You later kick yourself for not saying it.”
”sometimes you lock yourself up and try to act cool, and you can tend not to let
people in your life.”
Negs:
“wow, shes so demanding, is she always like this?”
“its so cute, your nose wiggles when you laugh.”
“you kinda have man hands.”
“those shoes look really comfortable.”
“I like that (clothing item), those are really popular right now.”
“nice nails, are they real? oh..they look nice anyways.”
“you have the most adorable Bugs Bunny overbite.”
“I think your going to make a good friend.”
“wow your palms are sweaty.”
“Gum? No really, you should.”
“bump her and say, "hands off the merchandise.”
"what do you want to be when you grow up? and dont say princess."
Closes:
# close: “It's been good talking to you, but I have to go. Is there a way we can continue
this conversation?”
kiss close: (after 3 IOI's) would you like to kiss me? yes= go. maybe=”lets see” then go.
no= “I didnt say you could, you just looked like you had something on your mind.”
“kiss good bye”(pointing to cheek)
*Day2; Set up another place and time to meet, and get the number AFTER so you can
confirm.