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Mapreduce Ii: Permalink Comments (25) Trackbacks
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By David DeWitt on January 25, 2008 2:56 PM | Permalink | Comments (25) | TrackBacks
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[Note: Although the system attributes this post to a single author, it was written by David J.
DeWitt and Michael Stonebraker]
Last week's MapReduce post attracted tens of thousands of readers and generated many
comments, almost all of them attacking our critique. Just to let you know, we don't hold a
personal grudge against MapReduce. MapReduce didn't kill our dog, steal our car, or try and
date our daughters.
Our motivations for writing about MapReduce stem from MapReduce being increasingly
seen as the most advanced and/or only way to analyze massive datasets. Advocates promote
the tool without seemingly paying attention to years of academic and commercial database
research and real world use.
The point of our initial post was to say that there are striking similarities between MapReduce
and a fairly primitive parallel database system. As such, MapReduce can be significantly
improved by learning from the parallel database community.
So, hold off on your comments for just a few minutes, as we will spend the rest of this post
addressing four specific topics brought up repeatedly by those who commented on our
previous blog:
1. MapReduce is not a database system, so don't judge it as one
2. MapReduce has excellent scalability; the proof is Google's use
3. MapReduce is cheap and databases are expensive
4. We are the old guard trying to defend our turf/legacy from the young turks
It's not that we don't understand this viewpoint. We are not claiming that MapReduce is a
database system. What we are saying is that like a DBMS + SQL + analysis tools,
MapReduce can be and is being used to analyze and perform computations on massive
datasets. So we aren't judging apples and oranges. We are judging two approaches to
analyzing massive amounts of information, even for less structured information.
To illustrate our point, assume that you have two very large files of facts. The first file
contains structured records of the form:
Rankings (pageURL, pageRank)
This question is a little tricky to answer in MapReduce because it consumes two data sets
rather than one, and it requires a "join" of the two datasets to find pairs of Ranking and
UserVisit records that have matching values for pageURL and destinationURL. In fact, it
appears to require three MapReduce phases, as noted below.
Phase 1
This phase filters UserVisits records that are outside the desired data range and
then "joins" the qualifying records with records from the Rankings file.
• Map program: The map program scans through UserVisits and Rankings
records. Each UserVisit record is filtered on the date range specification.
Qualifying records are emitted with composite keys of the form
<destinationURL, T1 > where T1 indicates that it is a UserVisits record.
Rankings records are emitted with composite keys of the form <pageURL,
T2 > (T2 is a tag indicating it a Rankings record). Output records are
repartitioned using a user-supplied partitioning function that only hashes
on the URL portion of the composite key.
• Reduce Program: The input to the reduce program is a single sorted run
of records in URL order. For each unique URL, the program splits the
incoming records into two sets (one for Rankings records and one for
UserVisits records) using the tag component of the composite key. To
complete the join, reduce finds all matching pairs of records of the two
sets. Output records are in the form of Temp1 (sourceIPAddr, pageURL,
pageRank, adRevenue).
The reduce program must be capable of handling the case in which one or both of
these sets with the same URL are too large to fit into memory and must be
materialized on disk. Since access to these sets is through an iterator, a
straightforward implementation will result in what is termed a nested-loops join.
This join algorithm is known to have very bad performance I/O characteristics as
"inner" set is scanned once for each record of the "outer" set.
Phase 2
This phase computes the total ad revenue and average page rank for each Source
IP Address.
• Reduce program: The reduce program makes a linear pass over the data.
For each sourceIPAddr, it will sum the ad-revenue and compute the
average page rank, retaining the one with the maximum total ad revenue.
Each reduce worker then outputs a single record of the form Temp2
(sourceIPAddr, total_adRevenue, average_pageRank).
Phase 3
• Map program: The program uses a single map worker that scans Temp2
and outputs the record with the maximum value for total_adRevenue.
We realize that portions of the processing steps described above are handled automatically by
the MapReduce infrastructure (e.g., sorting and partitioning the records). Although we have
not written this program, we estimate that the custom parts of the code (i.e., the map() and
reduce() functions) would require substantially more code than the two fairly simple SQL
statements to do the same:
Q1
Q2
No matter what you think of SQL, eight lines of code is almost certainly easier to write and
debug than the programming required for MapReduce. We believe that MapReduce
advocates should consider the advantages that layering a high-level language like SQL could
provide to users of MapReduce. Apparently we're not alone in this assessment, as efforts such
as PigLatin and Sawzall appear to be promising steps in this direction.
We also firmly believe that augmenting the input files with a schema would provide the basis
for improving the overall performance of MapReduce applications by allowing B-trees to be
created on the input data sets and techniques like hash partitioning to be applied. These are
technologies in widespread practice in today's parallel DBMSs, of which there are quite a
number on the market, including ones from IBM, Teradata, Netezza, Greenplum, Oracle, and
Vertica. All of these should be able to execute this program with the same or better scalability
and performance of MapReduce.
It is certainly the case that you could do the same thing in MapReduce by
using hashing to map records to chunks of the file and then modifying the
MapReduce program to exploit the knowledge of how the data was
loaded. But in a database, physical data independence happens
automatically. When Q1 is "compiled," the query optimizer will extract
partitioning information about the two tables from the schema. It will
then generate the correct query plan based on this partitioning information
(e.g., maybe Rankings is hash partitioned on pageURL but UserVisits is
hash partitioned on sourceIPAddr). This happens transparently to any user
(modulo changes in response time) who submits a query involving a join
of the two tables.
To further illustrate out point, suppose you have a more general filter, F, a more general
group_by function, G, and a more general Reduce function, R. PostgreSQL (an open source,
free DBMS) allows the following SQL query over a table T:
Select R (T)
From T
Group_by G (T)
Where F (T)
As such, we claim that most things that are possible in MapReduce are also possible in a
SQL engine. Hence, it is exactly appropriate to compare the two approaches. We are working
on a more complete paper that demonstrates the relative performance and relative
programming effort between the two approaches, so, stay tuned.
Feedback No. 2: MapReduce has excellent scalability; the proof is Google's use
Many readers took offense at our comment about scaling and asserted that since Google runs
MapReduce programs on 1,000s (perhaps 10s of 1,000s) of nodes it must scale well. Having
started benchmarking database systems 25 years ago (yes, in 1983), we believe in a more
scientific approach toward evaluating the scalability of any system for data intensive
applications.
Consider the following scenario. Assume that you have a 1 TB data set that has been
partitioned across 100 nodes of a cluster (each node will have about 10 GB of data). Further
assume that some MapReduce computation runs in 5 minutes if 100 nodes are used for both
the map and reduce phases. Now scale the dataset to 10 TB, partition it over 1,000 nodes, and
run the same MapReduce computation using those 1,000 nodes. If the performance of
MapReduce scales linearly, it will execute the same computation on 10x the amount of data
using 10x more hardware in the same 5 minutes. Linear scaleup is the gold standard for
measuring the scalability of data intensive applications. As far as we are aware there are no
published papers that study the scalability of MapReduce in a controlled scientific fashion.
MapReduce may indeed scale linearly, but we have not seen published evidence of this.
Every organization has a "build" versus "buy" decision, and we don't question the decision by
Google to roll its own data analysis solution. We also don't intend to defend DBMS pricing
by the commercial vendors. What we wanted to point out is that we believe it is possible to
build a version of MapReduce with more functionality and better performance. Pig is an
excellent step in this direction.
Also, we want to mention that there are several open source (i.e., free) DBMSs, including
PostgreSQL, MySQL, Ingres, and BerkeleyDB. Several of the aforementioned parallel
DBMS companies have increased the scale of these open source systems by adding parallel
computing extensions.
A number of individuals also commented that SQL and the relational data model are too
restrictive. Indeed, the relational data model might very well be the wrong data model for the
types of datasets that MapReduce applications are targeting. However, there is considerable
ground between the relational data model and no data model at all. The point we were trying
to make is that developers writing business applications have benefited significantly from the
notion of organizing data in the database according to a data model and accessing that data
through a declarative query language. We don't care what that language or model is. Pig, for
example, employs a nested relational model, which gives developers more flexibility that a
traditional 1NF doesn't allow.
Feedback No. 4: We are the old guard trying to defend our turf/legacy from the young
turks
Since both of us are among the "gray beards" and have been on this earth about 2 Giga-
seconds, we have seen a lot of ideas come and go. We are constantly struck by the following
two observations:
• How insular computer science is. The propagation of ideas from sub-discipline to
sub-discipline is very slow and sketchy. Most of us are content to do our own thing,
rather than learn what other sub-disciplines have to offer.
• How little knowledge is passed from generation to generation. In a recent paper
entitled "What goes around comes around," (M. Stonebraker/J. Hellerstein, Readings
in Database Systems 4th edition, MIT Press, 2004) one of us noted that many current
database ideas were tried a quarter of a century ago and discarded. However, such
pragma does not seem to be passed down from the "gray beards" to the "young
turks." The turks and gray beards aren't usually and shouldn't be adversaries.
Thanks for stopping by the "pasture" and reading this post. We look forward to reading your
feedback, comments and alternative viewpoints.