Nwo Plans Exposed 1969 Medicine
Nwo Plans Exposed 1969 Medicine
This is a transcript of two out of three tapes on the "New World System." Tapes one and two
were recorded in 1988 and are the recollections of Dr. Lawrence Dunegan regarding a lecture he
attended on March 20, 1969 at a meeting of the Pittsburgh Paediatric Society. The lecturer at that
gathering of paediatricians (identified in tape three recorded in 1991) was a Dr. Richard Day
(who died in 1989). At the time, Dr. Day was Professor of Paediatrics at Mount Sinai Medical
School in New York. Previously he had served as Medical Director of Planned Parenthood
Federation of America. Dr. Dunegan was formerly a student of Dr. Day at the University of
Pittsburgh and was well acquainted with him, though not intimately. He describes Dr. Day as an
insider of the "Order" and although Dr. Dunegan's memory was somewhat dimmed by the
intervening years, he is able to provide enough details of the lecture to enable any enlightened
person to discern the real purposes behind the trends of our time. This is a transcript of a loose,
conversational monologue . . .
There has been much written, and much said, by some people who have looked at all the changes
that have occurred in American society in the past 20 years or so, and who have looked
retrospectively to earlier history of the United States, and indeed, of the world, and come to the
conclusion that there is a conspiracy of sorts which influences, indeed controls, major historical
events, not only in the United States, but also around the world. This conspiratorial interpretation
of history is based on people making observations from the outside, gathering evidence and
concluding that from the outside they see a conspiracy. Their evidence and conclusions are based
on evidence gathered in retrospect.
I want to now describe what I heard from a speaker in 1969, which in several weeks will now be
20 years ago. The speaker did not speak in terms of retrospect, but rather predicting changes that
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would be brought about in the future. The speaker was not looking from the outside in, thinking
that he saw conspiracy, rather, he was on the inside, admitting that, indeed, there was an
organised power, force, group of men, who wielded enough influence to determine major events
involving countries around the world. In addition, he predicted, or rather expounded on, changes
that were planned for the remainder of this century. As you listen, if you can recall the situation,
at least in the United States in 1969 and the few years there after, and then recall the kinds of
changes which have occurred between then and now, almost 20 years later, I believe you will be
impressed with the degree to which the things that were planned to be brought about have
already been accomplished. Some of the things that were discussed were not intended to be
accomplished yet by 1988. [Note: the year of this recording] but are intended to be accomplished
before the end of this century. There is a timetable; and it was during this session that some of
the elements of the timetable were brought out. Anyone who recalls early in the days of the
Kennedy campaign when he spoke of progress in the decade of the 60's": That was kind of a
cliché in those days - "the decade of the 60's." Well, by 1969 our speaker was talking about the
decade of the 70's, the decade of the 80's, and the decade of the 90's. Prior to that time, I don't
remember anybody saying "the decade of the 40's and the decade of the 50's. So I think this
overall plan and timetable had taken important shape with more predictability to those who
control it, sometime in the late 50's. That's speculation on my part. In any event, the speaker said
that his purpose was to tell us about changes which would be brought about in the next 30 years
or so, so that an entirely new world-wide system would be in operation before the turn of the
century. As he put it, "We plan to enter the 21st Century with a running start." [emphasis
supplied]
He said, as we listened to what he was about to present, "Some of you will think I'm talking
about Communism. Well, what I'm talking about is much bigger than Communism!" At that time
he indicated that there is much more co-operation between East and West than most people
realise. In his introductory remarks, he commented that he was free to speak at this time. He
would not have been able to say what he was about to say, even a few years earlier. But he was
free to speak at this time because now, and I'm quoting here, "everything is in place and nobody
can stop us now." He went on to say that most people don't understand how governments operate
and even people in high positions in governments, including our own, don't really understand
how and where decisions are made. He went on to say that people who really influence decisions
are names that for the most part would be familiar to most of us, but he would not use
individuals' names or names of any specific organisation. But that, if he did, most of the people
would be names that were recognised by most of his audience. He went on to say that they were
not primarily people in public office, but people of prominence who were primarily known in
their private occupations or private positions. [1]
The speaker was Dr. Richard Day, a doctor of medicine and a former professor at a large Eastern
university, and he was addressing a group of doctors of medicine, about 80 in number. His name
would not be widely recognised by anybody likely to hear this. The only purpose in recording
this is that it may give a perspective to those who hear it regarding the changes which have
already been accomplished in the past 20 years or so, and a bit of a preview to what at least some
people are planning for the remainder of this century, so that they would enter the 21st Century
[1] See The True Story of the Bilderburg Group by Daniel Estulin
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with a flying start. Some of us may not enter that Century. His purpose in telling our group about
these changes that were to be brought about was to make it easier for us to adapt to these
changes. Indeed, as he quite accurately said, "they would be changes that would be very
surprising, and in some ways difficult for people to accept," and he hoped that we, as sort of his
friends, would make the adaptation more easily if we knew somewhat beforehand what to
expect.
Somewhere in the introductory remarks he insisted that nobody have a tape recorder and that
nobody take notes, which for a professor was a very remarkable kind of thing to expect from an
audience. Something in his remarks suggested that there could be negative repercussions against
him if it became widely known that indeed he had spilled the beans, so to speak. When I first
heard that, I thought maybe that was sort of an ego trip, somebody enhancing his own
importance. But as the revelations unfolded, I began to understand why he might have had some
concern about not having it widely known what was said although this was a fairly public forum
where he was speaking. Nonetheless, he asked that no notes be taken, no tape recording be used.
This was suggesting there might be some personal danger to himself if these revelations were
widely publicised. Again, as the remarks began to unfold, and heard the rather outrageous things
that were said, I made it a point to try to remember as much of what he said as I could and to
connect my recollections to simple events around me to aid my memory for the future, in case I
wanted to do what I'm doing now - recording this. I also wanted to try to maintain a perspective
on what would be developing, if indeed, it followed the predicted pattern - which it has! At this
point, so that I don't forget to include it later, I'll just include some statements that were made
from time to time throughout the presentation.
One of the statements was having to do with change. The statement was, "People will have to get
used to the idea of change, so used to change, that they'll be expecting change. Nothing will be
permanent." This often came out in the context of a society where people seemed to have no
roots or moorings, but would be passively willing to accept change simply because it was all
they had ever known. This was sort of in contrast to generations of people up until this time
where certain things you expected to be, and remain in place as reference points for your life. So
change was to be brought about, change was to be anticipated and expected, and accepted, no
questions asked. Another comment that was made from time to time during the presentation was.
"People are too trusting, people don't ask the right questions." Sometimes, being too trusting was
equated with being too dumb. But sometimes when he would say that "People don't ask the right
questions," it was almost with a sense of regret as if he were uneasy with what he was part of,
and wished that people would challenge it and maybe not be so trusting.[2]
Another comment that was repeated from time to time, particularly in relation to changing laws
and customs was, "Everything has two purposes. One is the ostensible purpose which will make
it acceptable to people and second is the real purpose which would further the goals of
[2] One important question that people don't ask is: who decided to replace the "scientific process" with "consensus
science"? See: "Expert Consensus Reports" are Scientific Mumbo Jumbo on AntiCorruptionSociety.com
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establishing the new system.[3] Frequently he would say, "There is just no other way, there's just
no other way!" This seemed to come as a sort of an apology, particularly at the conclusion of
describing some particularly offensive changes. For example, the promotion of drug addiction
which we'll get into later.
Somewhere in the presentation he made two statements that I want to insert at this time. I don't
remember just where they were made, but they're valid in terms of the general overall view. One
statement is, "People can carry in their minds and act upon two contradictory ideas at one time,
provided that these two contradictory ideas are kept far enough apart." The other statement is,
"You can know pretty well how rational people are going to respond to certain circumstances or
to certain information that they encounter. So, to determine the response you want you need only
control the kind of data or information that they're presented or the kinds of circumstance that
they're in; and being rational people they'll do what you want them to do. They may not fully
understand what they're doing or why." [4]
Everybody has a right to live only so long. The old are no longer useful. They become a burden.
You should be ready to accept death. Most people are. An arbitrary age limit could be
established. After all, you have a right to only so many steak dinners, so many orgasms, and so
many good pleasures in life. After you have had enough of them and you're no longer
productive, working, and contributing, then you should be ready to step aside for the next
generation. Some things that would help people realise that they had lived long enough, he
mentioned several of these. I don't remember them all but here are a few, the use of very pale
printing ink on forms that people are necessary to fill out. Older people wouldn't be able to read
the pale ink as easily and would need to go to younger people for help. Automobile traffic
patterns, there would be more high-speed traffic lanes that older people with their slower reflexes
would have trouble dealing with and thus, loses some of their independence.
A big item that was elaborated on at some length was the cost of medical care would be made
burdensomely high. Medical care would be connected very closely with one's work but also
would be made very, very high in cost so that it would simply be unavailable to people beyond a
certain time. Unless they had a remarkably rich, supporting family, they would just have to do
without care. And the idea was that if everybody says, "Enough! What a burden it is on the
young to try to maintain the old people," then the young would become agreeable to helping
[3] Quote from former CIA Director William Casey: “We’ll know our disinformation program is complete when
everything the American public believes is false.”
– William Casey, CIA Director (from first staff meeting, 1981)
[4] This false concept of using data and incentives to predict human behavior came from John Nash's The Game
Theory, which came out of the Robber Barron's private think tank, the RAND corporation. RAND whistle blower
Alex Abella exposed it in his book Soldiers of Reason.
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Mom and Dad along the way, provided this was done humanely and with dignity. Then the
example was - there could be a nice, farewell party, a real celebration. Mom and Dad had done a
good job. Then after the party's over they take the 'demise pill'.
The next topic is Medicine. There would be profound changes in the practice of medicine.
Overall, medicine would be much more tightly controlled. The observation that was made in
1969 that, "Congress is not going to go along with national health insurance, is now, abundantly
evident. But it's not necessary, we have other ways to control health care". These would come
about more gradually, but all health care delivery would come under tight control. Medical care
would be closely connected to work. If you don't work or can't work, you won't have access to
medical care. The days of hospitals giving away free care would gradually wind down, to where
it was virtually non-existent. Costs would be forced up so that people won't be able to afford to
go without insurance. People pay for it, you're entitled to it. It was only subsequently that I began
to realise the extent to which you would not be paying for it. Your medical care would be paid
for by others. Therefore, you would gratefully accept, on bended knee, what was offered to you
as a privilege. Your role being responsible for your own care would be diminished. As an aside
here, this is not something that was developed at that time; I didn't understand it at the time that
it was an aside.
The way this works, everybody has made dependent on insurance and if you don't have
insurance then you pay directly; the cost of your care is enormous. The insurance company,
however, paying for your care, does not pay that same amount. If you are charged, say, $600 for
the use of an operating room, the insurance company does not pay $600; they only pay $300 or
$400. That differential in billing has the desired effect: It enables the insurance company to pay
for that which you could never pay for. They get a discount that's unavailable to you. When you
see your bill you're grateful that the insurance company could do that. And in this way you are
dependent, and virtually required to have insurance. The whole billing is fraudulent. [5]
Access to hospitals would be tightly controlled and identification would be needed to get into the
building. The security in and around hospitals would be established and gradually increased so
that nobody without identification could get in or move around inside the building. Theft of
hospital equipment, things like typewriters and microscopes and so forth would be 'allowed' and
exaggerated; reports of it would be exaggerated so that this would be the excuse needed to
establish the need for strict security until people got used to it. Anybody moving about the
hospital would be required to wear an identification badge with a photograph and telling why he
was there, employee or lab technician or visitor or whatever. This is to be brought in gradually,
getting everybody used to the idea of identifying themselves - until it was just accepted. This
need for ID to move about would start in small ways: hospitals, some businesses, but gradually
expand to include everybody in all places! It was observed that hospitals can be used to confine
people and for the treatment of criminals. This did not mean, necessarily, medical treatment. At
that time I did not know the term 'Psycho-Prison' - they are in the Soviet Union, but, without
trying to recall all the details, basically, he was describing the use of hospitals both for treating
[5] This change was most certainly implemented and thoroughly exposed in 2013 by researcher Steven Brill in his
amazing Time Magazine article: Bitter Pill. Short video featuring Mr Brill available on youtube, Bitter Pill: The
Exorbitant Prices of Healthcare
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the sick, and for confinement of criminals for reasons other than the medical well-being of the
criminal. The definition of criminal was not given.
The image of the doctor would change. No longer would he be seen as an individual professional
in service to individual patients. But the doctor would be gradually recognized as a highly skilled
technician - and his job would change. The job is to include things like executions by lethal
injection. The image of the doctor being a powerful, independent person would have to be
changed. He went on to say, "Doctors are making entirely too much money. They should
advertise like any other product." Lawyers would be advertising too. Keep in mind, this was an
audience of doctors; being addressed by a doctor. And it was interesting that he would make
some rather insulting statements to his audience without fear of antagonizing us. The solo
practitioner would become a thing of the past. A few die-hards might try to hold out, but most
doctors would be employed by an institution of one kind or another. Group practice would be
encouraged, corporations would be encouraged, and then once the corporate image of medical
care gradually became more and more acceptable, doctors would more and more become
employees rather than independent contractors. Along with that, of course, unstated but
necessary, is the employee serves his employer, not his patient. So we've already seen quite a lot
of that in the last 20 years. And apparently more on the horizon. The term HMO was not used at
that time, but as you look at HMO's you see this is the way that medical care is being taken over
since the National Health Insurance approach did not get through the Congress. A few die-hard
doctors may try to make a go of it, remaining in solo practice, remaining independent, which,
parenthetically, is me but they would suffer a great loss of income. They'd be able to scrape by,
maybe, but never really live comfortably as would those who were willing to become employees
of the system. Ultimately, there would be no room at all for the solo practitioner after the system
is entrenched.
The next heading to talk about is Health and Disease. He said there would be new diseases to
appear which had not ever been seen before. Would be very difficult to diagnose and be
untreatable - at least for along time. No elaboration was made on this, but I remember, not long
after hearing this presentation, when I had a puzzling diagnosis to make, I would be wondering,
"Is this a case of what he was talking about?" Some years later AIDS developed. I think AIDS
was at least one example of what he was talking about. I now think that AIDS probably was a
manufactured disease.
Cancer. He said. "We can cure almost every cancer right now. Information is on file in the
Rockefeller Institute, if it's ever decided that it should be released. But consider - if people stop
dying of cancer, how rapidly we would become overpopulated. You may as well die of cancer as
of something else." Efforts at cancer treatment would be geared more toward comfort than
toward cure. There was some statement that ultimately the cancer cures which were being hidden
in the Rockefeller Institute would come to light because independent researchers might bring
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them out, despite these efforts to suppress them.[6] But at least for the time being, letting people
die of cancer was a good thing to do because it would slow down the problem of overpopulation.
Another very interesting thing was heart attacks. He said, "There is now a way to simulate a real
heart attack. It can be used as a means of assassination." Only a very skilled pathologist who
knew exactly what to look for at an autopsy, could distinguish this from the real thing. I thought
that was a very surprising and shocking thing to hear from this particular man at that particular
time. This, and the business of the cancer cure, really still stand out sharply in my memory,
because they were so shocking and, at that time, seemed to me out of character. He then went on
to talk about nutrition and exercise sort of in the same framework. People would have to eat right
and exercise right to live as long as before. Most won't. This in the connection of nutrition, there
was no specific statement that I can recall as to particular nutrients that would be either
inadequate or in excess. In retrospect, I tend to think he meant high salt diets and high fat diets
would predispose toward high blood pressure and premature arteriosclerotic heart disease. And
that if people who were too dumb or too lazy to exercise as they should then their circulating fats
go up and predispose to disease. He also said something about diet information would be widely
available, but most people, particularly stupid people, who had no right to continue living
anyway, would ignore the advice and just go on and eat what was convenient and tasted good.
There were some other unpleasant things said about food. I just can't recall what they were. But I
do remember having reflections about wanting to plant a garden in the backyard to get around
whatever these contaminated foods would be. I regret I don't remember the details about
nutrition and hazardous nutrition.
With regard to exercise, he went on to say that more people would be exercising more, especially
running, because everybody can run. You don't need any special equipment or place. You can
run wherever you are. As he put it. "people will be running all over the place." And in this vein,
he pointed out how supply produces demand. And this was in reference to athletic clothing and
equipment. As this would be made more widely available and glamorised, particularly as regards
running shoes, this would stimulate people to develop an interest in running as part of a whole
sort of public propaganda campaign. People would be encouraged then to buy the attractive
sports equipment and to get into exercise.
In connection with nutrition he also mentioned that public eating places would rapidly increase.
That this had a connection with the family too. As more and more people eat out, eating at home
would become less important. People would be less dependent on their kitchens at home. And
then this also connected to convenience foods being made widely available - things like you
could pop into the microwave. Whole meals would be available pre-fixed. And of course we've
now seen this. But this whole different approach to eating out and to previously prepared meals
being eaten in the home was predicted at that time to be brought about. The convenience foods
would be part of the hazards. Anybody who was lazy enough to want the convenience foods
rather than fixing his own also had better be energetic enough to exercise. Because if he was too
lazy to exercise and too lazy to fix his own food, then he didn't deserve to live very long. This
was all presented as sort of a moral judgment about people and what they should do with their
[6] Validation that this is what happened was exposed in Burzynski - The Movie, free online.
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energies. People who are smart, who would learn about nutrition, and who are disciplined
enough to eat right and exercise right are better people - and the kind you want to live longer.
More jails would be needed. Hospitals could serve as jails. Some new hospital construction
would be designed so as to make them adaptable to jail-like use.
Somewhere in this connection, then, was the statement admitting that some scientific research
data could be, and indeed has been, falsified in order to bring about desired results.[7] Here he
said, "People don't ask the right questions. Some people are too trusting." Now this was an
interesting statement because the speaker and the audience all being doctors of medicine and
supposedly very objective, dispassionately scientific and science being the be all and end-all. To
falsify scientific research data [8] in that setting is like blasphemy in the church, you just don't do
that.
[SUMMARY]
Let me just summarise here by saying, all of these things said by one individual at one time in
one place relating to so many different human endeavours and then to look and see how many of
these actually came about. Meaning the changes accomplished between then and now [1969 -
1988] and the things which are planned for the future. [9] I think there is no denying that this is
controlled and there is indeed a conspiracy.
The question then becomes what to do. I think first off, we must put our faith in God and pray
and ask for his guidance. And secondly do what we can to inform other individuals as much as
possible, as much as they may be interested. Some people just don't care, because they're
preoccupied with getting along in their own personal endeavours. But as much as possible I think
we should try to inform other people who may be interested, and again put our faith and trust in
God and pray constantly for his guidance and for the courage to accept what we may be facing in
the near future. Rather than accept peace and justice which we hear so much now. It's a cliché!
Let's insist on liberty and justice for all.
[7] Read Lies, Damn Lies and Medical Science on AntiCorruptionSociety.com, about the research of Dr. John
Ioaniddis.
[8] See Dr David Lewis' book Science for Sale
[9] The creation of "standards of care" by State Medical Boards and hospital administrations has coerced physicians
into prescribing dangerous ineffective drugs and other treatments for their patients. See: The Industrial Medical
Complex - A Profiteering Weapon of Mass Destruction on AntiCorruptionSociety.com
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