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R. Kelly IL Fed Transcript 7-16-19
R. Kelly IL Fed Transcript 7-16-19
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8 States.
14 present.
18 for bond.
22 them, one for the New York case and one for this case. And
8 yes.
14 both cases.
19 argument.
21 proceed then.
24 here or --
3 testimony.
5 lengthy.
7 me ask this. How long do you think the proceeding will take?
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13 of New York, and the case right here in the Northern District
7 videos, the defendant makes the girl call him "daddy" over and
8 over again.
15 her when she was 14 years old. There are at least five
19 filmed it, and we have the videos to prove it. That weighs in
20 favor of detention.
2 to the community.
9 But what sets this case apart from so many others and
14 of the indictment.
6 just wrong to say that these cases deal only with old conduct.
14 hundreds of times.
16 something that you can just turn on and turn off like a light
18 defendant is. It's what he's been doing for most of his adult
21 federal charges in Illinois and in New York are just for the
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1 same as his state court trial in 2008. That means that the
3 faced before.
4 And what about that one count that does overlap with
10 and he ensured that the state trial was not a fair trial. He
14 their abuse.
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8 this time because this time, his victims are cooperating with
10 flee.
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6 marriage was to a minor girl who was only 15 years old at the
9 the defendant knew that the girl was only 15 years old when he
10 married her.
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24 MR. GREENBERG: I --
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5 marriage.
10 this Court detain the defendant pending his trial here in the
14 of its own?
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5 a couple of years.
18 involved with Mr. Kelly, and they've never shown up for those
19 meetings.
21 his children who live here. Even though he's estranged from
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1 current and being paid. Even though he doesn't see his kids,
2 even though his career is not what it was, he's still paying
3 that.
12 I've said this before. Unlike the song, his most famous song
13 which is, "I Believe I Can Fly," Mr. Kelly doesn't fly. He
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1 him.
7 they call it, plus den unit in Trump Tower on the 48th floor;
17 These are the third and fourth cases that Mr. Kelly
20 that was dismissed back when the other charges were pending
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3 Honor.
13 I'm not privy to the evidence at this point, but they say that
18 case. The video in that case got played, the same video
22 the grand jury back then that that wasn't her. The jury heard
23 all the evidence. The jury heard from other people. And the
24 jury watched the video. And the jury acquitted Mr. Kelly. If
25 the fix was in, he went through an awful lot because the fix
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3 know what people who maybe knew Mr. Kelly was. He had fine
5 Mr. Genson on the case. I don't know what they're saying was
16 never missed a court date, never was late for a court date.
21 The State indicted him. The State called me up, they said,
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1 didn't even ask the judge to raise the bond on the case
3 show up.
10 calls when he's supposed to call. They tell him where to be,
20 himself in."
23 them. They wanted to take a DNA sample. Sure, take the DNA
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4 this -- and they knew I was representing him. Had they called
7 said, "Bring him in," we would have brought him in just like
8 before.
12 court.
18 well-known fact.
21 all. And I'm shocked that they even argue that, that they
24 He saw the cars out there. I can show the government the text
25 message. He saw the cars out -- that were out there, your
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8 songs. Those were stolen from him. He would get small checks
10 little about the business now in this case -- they don't make
15 while.
23 the time of the state charges, I think right after the state
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1 account under his own name. And what happened? He had gotten
2 evicted from his recording studio, and the people who evicted
3 him seized the money in his bank account. And a big chunk of
10 on. He's got no money to flee on. He'll get a little check
11 here and a little check there, and maybe some friends will
12 help him.
17 six years before, and he was showing up. I don't see that as
22 write the indictments that way, but the dates are in there.
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7 enforcement, have said, you know, "We'll pay you for your
10 except for one very vague thing that they've put in one of the
11 indictments.
19 isn't a danger to minors. The fact that it's been two decades
23 don't have whatever their evidence is, but I can tell you a
24 little bit. And these are not secrets. This is well known
25 about Mr. Kelly and Mr. Kelly's business. Mr. Kelly had a
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2 had people who worked for him, other people working for him,
3 all of whom have a lot of money now. All of them have a lot
5 money.
9 the money tree, I don't know about that, and I haven't seen
11 it. And let me tell you why, even if the government says he's
16 McDavid was the guy who ran it, he was the business guy; he
17 was the accountant, but he was the business guy, he was the
18 guy who handled all Mr. Kelly's affairs -- and a guy named
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2 Derrel McDavid? And I'm sure they've got -- they've got their
7 happened that since Mr. Kelly has heard these rumors swirling
8 around which have been around now for probably a year and a
9 half, two years about criminal charges and so forth, that he's
13 charges were filed that Mr. Kelly has done anything wrong at
18 condition?
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8 consenting adults who never complained for years and years all
12 greatest hits tour since this first hit. They've been on TV.
13 They went to the awards in Las Vegas, the MTV awards, and got
15 show and they -- we've got this, they Tweet and they video and
16 they, "Oh, this is great. My mom has never been" -- the one
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7 of his notoriety.
10 Someone's going to have to sit down with him hour after hour
21 case, we went over there yesterday. What would you guys say?
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4 the man's going to have to prepare for trial, and the man's
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1 probably buried under the change. But they found nothing that
12 Mr. Brown that they have ever sexually abused a minor. They
14 and they are not charged with counts that carry that
15 presumption of detention.
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2 tapes with minors that the defendant was on. And so it's not
3 like they had an interest in minors. They were doing what the
16 sexually abusing Minor One. And the other two videos were not
21 the case, and he was not focusing on the minors. And I'd like
24 camera. Never have they been seeking fame and fortune. They
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2 the defendant.
14 grand jury, which means that the grand jury, after hearing
23 detention presumption.
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5 apparently there was one that was played, there were several
7 which apparently has not surfaced yet but must be out there
8 somewhere, had all three of them, who knows how the case could
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10 yes. We'll enter pleas of not guilty, and we'll waive formal
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19 restitution.
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12 charges already?
16 you feel that you understand the nature of the charges of the
17 indictment?
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1 guilty.
4 that correct?
11 conference.
15 THE COURT: Are you talking about two weeks for the
16 production?
19 because Mr. Brown's not even in town yet. We're not sure of
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4 I mean, what happens if Mr. Brown gets here and says he needs
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1 but then I've been here long enough to know that it isn't --
3 objections.
5 weeks?
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1 so excluded.
9 charges.
11 said he --
14 arraigned before --
18 give us enough time for him to have his appearance there and
20 work with the marshals on that to make sure that that's okay.
25 complication, Judge.
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