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FULTON COUNTY BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS

REGULAR MEETING
November 4, 2020
10:00 AM

Fulton County Government Center


TELECONFERENCE
141 Pryor Street SW
Atlanta, Georgia 30303

MINUTES-RATIFIED
This document has been ratified or approved by the Board of Commissioners,
and is not binding on the County or any officer.
Ratification date: December 2, 2020

CALL TO ORDER: Chairman Robert L. Pitts 10:00 a.m.

ROLL CALL: Tonya R. Grier, Clerk to the Commission

Robert L. Pitts, Chairman (At-Large) PRESENT


Liz Hausmann, Commissioner (District 1) PRESENT
Bob Ellis, Commissioner (District 2) PRESENT
Lee Morris, Commissioner (District 3) PRESENT
Natalie Hall, Commissioner (District 4) PRESENT
Marvin S. Arrington, Jr., Vice-Chairman (District 5) PRESENT
Joe Carn, Commissioner (District 6) PRESENT

INVOCATION: Reverend Clifton Dawkins, Jr., County Chaplain

PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE: Recited in unison

ALSO PRESENT: Dick Anderson, County Manager; Patrise Perkins-Hooker, County


Attorney; Anna Roach, Chief Operating Officer; Sharon Whitmore, Chief Financial Officer;
Ellis Kirby, Deputy COO; Pamela Roshell, Deputy COO; Alton Adams, Deputy COO; Harriet
Thomas (Office of Chairman Pitts); Hakeem Oshikoya, Finance Director; Felicia Strong-
Whitaker, Purchasing Director; Jessica Corbitt, Director of External Affairs; and Nikki Peterson
(Office of the Clerk to the Commission)
TABLE OF CONTENTS

ITEM # SUBJECT PAGE #

20-0771 Adoption of the Consent Agenda - All matters listed on the Consent Agenda
are considered routine by the County Commission and will be enacted by
one motion. No separate discussion will take place on these items. If
discussion of any Consent Agenda item is desired, the item will be moved to
the Regular Meeting Agenda for separate consideration. (ADOPTED AS
AMENDED) 1

20-0772 Proclamations for Spreading on the Minutes (SPREAD ON THE


MINUTES UPON ADOPTION OF THE CONSENT AGENDA) ................. 3

20-0773 FULTON COUNTY ARTS COUNCIL (APPROVED UPON ADOPTION


OF THE CONSENT AGENDA) ................................................................. 4

20-0810 HOUSING AUTHORITY OF FULTON COUNTY (APPROVED UPON


ADOPTION OF THE CONSENT AGENDA) .............................................. 4

20-0774 Request renewal of a Sub-Recipient Agreement between the Fulton


County Sheriff's Office and Justice Solution, as the research evaluator to
develop strategic plan and project planning and implementation for the
Department of Health and Human Services SAMSHA Grant. Effective
September 30, 2020 - September 29, 2021 with one renewal option
remaining. The cost of the contract shall not exceed $56,250.00. This
contract is 100% grant funded. No County funding is required.
(APPROVED UPON ADOPTION OF THE CONSENT AGENDA) ............ 4

20-0775 Request approval to renew existing contracts - Medical Examiner's Office,


19ITB465167C-BKJ, Forensic Postmortem Toxicology Testing in the
amount of $94,670.00 with Phoenix Laboratories LLC (Indianapolis, IN) to
provide toxicology testing services. This is the second of two renewal
options. No renewal optionS remain. Effective dates: January 1, 2021
through December 31, 2021. (APPROVED UPON ADOPTION OF THE
CONSENT AGENDA)................................................................................ 5

20-0776 Request approval of renewal of an MOU - Office of the Public Defender in


the amount $60,000.00 with United Way of Greater Atlanta (UWGA) and
Fulton County Atlanta, Georgia (from FY2020 Budget appropriation) within
thirty (30) days of signing the MOU. To support a select group of
chronically homeless individuals released from Fulton County Jail
providing transitional housing with case management. To provide
assistance to clients suffering with substance abuse and physical and or
mental concerns as well as placing some clients with mental health or
substance abuse issues in transitional facilities. (APPROVED) ............... 5

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20-0777 Request approval of an Intergovernmental Agreement between Fulton
County and the City of Palmetto, for the provision of 9-1-1 Emergency
Communications Services, effective January 1, 2021 through December
31, 2021 with three (3) automatic renewals commencing January 1 of
each successive year, in the amount of $57,000.00. This amount is a
revenue increase to Fulton County for services provided. (APPROVED
UPON ADOPTION OF THE CONSENT AGENDA) .................................. 8

20-0778 Request approval to enter into a Memorandum of Understanding between


Fulton County, Georgia, on behalf of its Department of Community
Development, for Emergency Solutions Grants CARES Act (ESG CV 2)
total amounts— ESG CARES ACT II to be used for the provision of
Emergency Shelter, Outreach, Rapid Rehousing to prevent, prepare for,
and respond to the coronavirus pandemic for Fulton County’s low to
moderate income citizens with the following service providers:
(Partnership Against Domestic Violence (PADV) - $152,000, Community
Assistance Center - $152,000.00, City of East Point- $152,000.00, North
Fulton Community Charities (NFCC) - $152,000.00, Chris 180 -
$152,000.00, The Drake House - $152,000.00, Young Adult Guidance
Center -$152,000.00, Gateway Center - $302,000.00, GA Department of
Community Affairs - $12,649.14). The approval of this agenda item will
also authorize the Chairman to execute future documents related to this
specific grant and this Agenda Item. (APPROVED) .................................. 8

20-0779 Request approval to enter into a Memorandum of Understandings


between Fulton County, Georgia, on behalf of its Department of
Community Development, for Emergency Solutions Grants (ESG) total
amounts— (A) ESG 2019 ($300,803.00) ) for Emergency Shelter, Rapid
Rehousing, Homeless Prevention with the following service providers -
Travelers Aid of Metropolitan Atlanta dba Hope Atlanta - $50,803.00,
Gateway Center - $75,000.00, City of East Point - $50,000.00, North
Fulton Community Charities (NFCC) - $50,000.00, The Drake House -
$25,000.00, Youth Empowerment - $25,000.00, and Community
Assistance Center - $25,000.00); and (B) ESG 2020 ($308,286.00) for
Emergency Shelter, Outreach, Rapid Rehousing, Prevention, with the
following service providers (Partnership Against Domestic Violence
(PADV- $50,000.00, Travelers Aid of Metropolitan Atlanta dba Hope
Atlanta - $50,000.00, Gateway Center - $,50,000.00, City of East Point -
$50,000.00, Society of Saint Vincent DePaul, GA - $33,286.00, Latin
American Association - $50,000.00, and Youth Empowerment -
$25,000.00):. The approval of this agenda item will also authorize the
Chairman to execute future documents related to this specific grant and
this Agenda Item. (APPROVED) ............................................................ 12

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20-0780 Requested approval of a contract without competition for media services
in an amount not to exceed $250,000 per year for each of five years with
Henry J. Kaiser Family Foundation (Menlo Park, CA) to provide a targeted
outreach campaign using Greater Than AIDS. The purpose is to raise
public awareness to inform low-income Persons Living with HIV in Fulton,
DeKalb, Cobb, and Gwinnett Counties of the importance of accessing care
and treatment services in an effort to reach viral suppression, the
availability of Ryan White Services, and connection to Ryan White service
providers. Effective upon BOC approval through February 28, 2025. The
contract is 100% grant funded through the Health Resources and Services
Administration (HRSA) Ending the HIV Epidemic funding (1
UT8HA339330100). Request authorization for the Chairman to execute
contract with Kaiser Family Foundation. To protect the interest of the
County, the County Attorney is authorized to approve the contracts as to
form and substance and make any necessary modifications thereto prior
to execution by the Chairman. (APPROVED) ........................................ 13

20-0781 Request approval of a Resolution approving a License Agreement


between Fulton County, Georgia, and the Georgia Department of Human
Services, Division of Family & Children Services, for the use of County
owned real property for the purpose of distributing toys and economic
assistance from within a Fulton County-owned real property; to authorize
the Chairman or the County Manager to execute the License Agreement;
to authorize the County Attorney to approve the License Agreement as to
form and to make necessary modifications thereto prior to execution.
Effective upon execution through March 4, 2021, unless amended.
(APPROVED) .......................................................................................... 14

20-0782 Accept and file the Fulton County Capital Program Quarterly Update for
the period July 1, 2020 – September 30, 2020. (APPROVED) ............... 15

20-0783 Request approval to revise the Lactation Accommodation Policy (105-16)


to reflect recent legislative changes to O.C.G.A. 45-1-7. (HELD) ............ 18

20-0784 21Request to temporarily promote William Yates to Interim Chief of Police,


effective November 4, 2020, at the rate of $135,000.00 per year.
(APPROVED) .......................................................................................... 21

20-0785 Request approval to make routine modifications to the classification


section of the Classification and Compensation plan, by adding new titles,
revising existing titles and/or changing assigned grades. (APPROVED) 23

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20-0786 Request approval of a Resolution approving a Third Amendment to Master
Lease Agreement for Facilities between Fulton County, Georgia (tenant),
and KDI ATLANTA MALL, LLC (landlord), for the purpose of extending the
lease term for the operations of the Fulton County Tax Commissioner at
2841 Greenbriar Parkway Atlanta in the amount of $97,119.16; to
authorize the Chairman to execute a Third Amendment to Master Lease
Agreement for Facilities and related documents; to authorize the County
Attorney to approve the Third Amendment to Master Lease Agreement for
Facilities and related documents as to form and to make any modifications
thereto prior to execution. The term of the Third Amendment runs from
January 1, 2021 and ends on December 31, 2021. (APPROVED UPON
ADOPTION OF THE CONSENT AGENDA) ............................................ 24

20-0787 Adoption of the Regular Meeting Agenda. (ADOPTED AS AMENDED) . 25

20-0788 Ratification of Minutes. (RATIFIED) ........................................................ 29

20-0789 Presentation of Proclamations and Certificates (NONE).......................... 30

20-0790 Public Comment - (CONDUCTED/READ INTO THE RECORD) ............. 30

20-0791 Request approval to renew existing contracts - Department of Real Estate


and Asset Management, Bid#18ITB113816C-GS, Modular Workstations
and Free Standing Furniture Countywide in the total amount of
$1,200,000.00 with: (A) Office Creation (Norcross, GA) in the amount of
$500,000.00; (B) 5 Star Office Furniture, Inc./State Office Furniture, LLC a
Joint Venture (Avondale Estates, GA) in the amount of $500,000.00, and
(C) Beltmann Relocation (Stone Mountain, GA) in the amount of
$200,000.00, to provide all labor for breaking down and reconfigurations of
existing workstations and office relocation by requested user departments
on an “as needed” basis for Fulton County agencies. This action exercises
the second of two renewal options. No renewal option remains. Effective
dates: from January 1, 2021 through December 31, 2021. (HELD)........ 33

20-0792 Request approval to renew existing contract - Department of Public


Works, Bid#18ITBC115044A-YJ, Water Meter Vaults in the amount of
$200,000.00 with Bartow Precast, Inc. (Cartersville, GA), to provide water
meter vaults. This action exercises the second of two renewal options. No
renewal options remain. Effective dates: January 1, 2021 through
December 31, 2021. (APPROVED) ........................................................ 37

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20-0793 Request approval to renew existing contracts - Department of Public
Works, Bid# 18ITB112052K-DB, Standby Miscellaneous Construction -
Wastewater System Services in the total award amount of $9,000,000.00
with: (A) Kemi Construction Company, Inc. (Atlanta, GA) in an amount of
$3,127,902.57; (B) Sol Construction Company, LLC (Atlanta, GA) in an
amount of $3,030,006.53; and (C) Site Engineering, Inc. (Atlanta, GA) in
an amount of $2,842,090.90, to provide standby construction services in
support of the efforts to reduce the ongoing inflow and infiltration as
required by Georgia Environmental Protection Division. This action
exercises the second of two renewal options. No renewal options remain.
Effective dates: January 1, 2021 through December 31, 2021.
(APPROVED) .......................................................................................... 38

20-0794 Presentation of COVID-19 Operational Response Update. (PRESENTED)


................................................................................................................. 39

20-0795 Request ratification of emergency procurement – County Manager,


Countywide Emergency Procurements. (APPROVED) ........................... 61

20-0796 Request approval to award contract without competition – Department of


Real Estate and Asset Management, #20SS127131C-MH, Countywide
Postage Services in the amount of $1,220,000 with the United States
Postal Services (Atlanta, GA), to provide postage services for Countywide
agencies. Effective dates: January 1, 2021 through December 31, 2021.
(APPROVED) .......................................................................................... 62

20-0797 Request approval of recommended proposals - Department of Real Estate


and Asset Management, RFP# 20RFP124968K-DB, Standby Professional
Services for Mechanical, Electrical, Plumbing and Fire Protection in the
total amount of $1,500,000 with: (A) Engineering Design Technologies,
Inc. (Atlanta, GA) in the amount of $375,000; (B) Wood Environmental &
Infrastructure Solutions, Inc. (Atlanta, GA) in the amount of $375,000; (C)
S. L. King & Associates (Atlanta, GA) in the amount of $375,000; and (D)
KHAFRA Engineering Consultants, Inc. (Atlanta, GA) in the amount of
$375,000; to provide standby professional services for facilities related
design, engineering and assessments in the areas of mechanical,
electrical, plumbing and fire protection on an “as needed-task assignment”
basis. Effective dates: January 1, 2021, through December 31, 2021, with
two renewal options. (APPROVED) ......................................................... 63

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20-0798 Request approval of lowest responsible bidder - Department of Real
Estate and Asset Management, Bid# 20ITB125925C-CG, Septic Tank and
Grease Trap Maintenance Services Countywide in the amount of
$45,000.00 with Darling Ingredients, Inc.- Dar Pro Solutions (Atlanta, GA),
to provide septic tank and grease trap maintenance services on an “as
needed” basis for Fulton County. Effective dates: January 1, 2021 through
December 31, 2021, with two renewal options. (APPROVED) ............... 65

20-0799 Request approval of lowest responsible bidders - Department of Real


Estate and Asset Management, Bid# 20ITB125598C-GS, HVAC On Call
Maintenance Services Countywide in the amount of $1,200,000, with: (A)
Mechanical Services, Inc. (Hapeville, GA) in the amount of $300,000; (B)
Trane U.S., Inc. (Atlanta, GA) in the amount of $300,000; (C) Johnson
Controls, Inc. (Roswell, GA) in the amount of $300,000; and (D) Daikin
Applied Americas, Inc. (Marietta, GA) in the amount of $300,000, to
provide standby on-site HVAC on call maintenance services of air
conditioning systems on an “as needed” basis for all Fulton County
facilities. Effective dates: January 1, 2021 through December 31, 2021,
with two renewal options. (APPROVED) ................................................ 66

20-0800 Request approval of recommended proposal - Department of Real Estate


and Asset Management, RFP# 20RFP123434K-BKJ, Standby Landscape
Design and Installation Countywide, in the amount of $300,000.00 with Ed
Castro Landscape, Inc. (Roswell, GA), to provide professional landscape
design, maintenance, and installation of landscaping and maintenance of
irrigation systems for Countywide facilities on an “as needed” basis.
Effective dates: January 1, 2021, through December 31, 2021, with two
renewal options. (APPROVED) .............................................................. 67

20-0801 Request approval of lowest responsible bidder - Department of Real


Estate and Asset Management, Bid# 20ITB126179K-JAJ, Atrium Painting
for Fulton County Government Center in the amount of $199,961 with
Benise-Dowling & Associates, Inc. (Decatur, GA), to provide prepping,
painting, cleaning and refinishing existing areas in the Fulton County
Government Center Atrium located at 141 Pryor Street, Atlanta Georgia
30303. Effective for a period of 120 calendar days upon issuance of the
Notice to Proceed. (APPROVED) ........................................................... 68

20-0802 Request approval of lowest responsible bidder – Police Department, Bid


#20ITB126459B-YJ, Automobile Repair Services in the amount of $75,000
with Moon’s Service Center (Mableton, GA) to provide automobile repair
services for the police fleet. Effective January 1, 2020 through December
31, 2021 with two renewal options. (APPROVED) ................................. 69

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20-0803 Request approval of Cooperative Purchasing contract - Department of
Public Works, Sourcewell Contract No. 122017-SCA (formerly known as
NJPA), Sewer Vacuum, Hydro-Excavation and Street Sweeper Equipment
with related Accessories and Supplies in the amount of $64,559.63 with
Jet-Vac Equipment Company, authorized dealer for Sewer Equipment
Company of America (Atlanta, GA), to purchase one (1) Sewer Equipment
JAJ-600WH Work Horse Easement Machine. This is a one-time
procurement. (APPROVED) ................................................................... 71

20-0804 Request approval of Cooperative Purchasing contract - Department of


Public Works, Houston-Galveston Area Council of Governments (H-GAC)
Contract No. SC01-18, Sewer Cleaning, Hydro-Excavating, Inspection
Equipment & Miscellaneous Service in the amount of $55,897.00 with
Aries Industries, Inc. (Waukesha, WI), to purchase one (1) Aries Mobile
Pathfinder All-in-One Controller Inspection System. This is a one-time
procurement. (APPROVED) ................................................................... 72

20-0805 Request approval of lowest responsible bidder - Department of Public


Works, Bid# 20ITBC072920A-FB, Mechanical and Flanged Fittings for
Ductile Iron Pipes and Discount to Catalog Items not listed in the amount
of $35,330.15 with Fortiline, Inc. dba Fortiline Waterworks (Suwanee, GA),
to provide mechanical and flanged fittings for ductile iron pipes and
discount to catalog items not listed. Effective upon execution of contract
through December 31, 2020 with two renewal options. (APPROVED) ... 73

20-0806 Request approval to increase spending authority – Department of Senior


Services, RFP# 17RFP109210A-FB –Comprehensive Nutrition Care in the
amount not to exceed $445,335.35 with Open Hand Atlanta
(Atlanta, GA), to provide congregate and home delivered meals, meal
delivery, nutrition education and nutrition counseling for Fulton County
residents aged 60 and above. Effective upon BOC approval.
(APPROVED) .......................................................................................... 74

20-0807 Request approval of lowest responsible bidder - Department of Public


Works, Bid# 20ITB126597K-JAJ, Airfield Lighting & Rehabilitation at
Fulton County Executive Airport at Charlie Brown Field in the amount of
$983,014.00 with Precision Approach, LLC, (Eatonton, GA), to provide
Airfield Lighting and Signage Rehabilitation Runway 8/26 and Taxiway
India. Effective upon Issuance of Notice of Proceed for a contract period of
sixty (60) calendar days. (REMOVED).................................................... 75

20-0808 Request approval to accept a Local Maintenance and Improvement Grant


(LMIG) from the Georgia Department of Transportation (GDOT) in the
amount of $67,914.28 and submit the required application to GDOT to be
used as part of the 2021 resurfacing program within the Fulton Industrial
District; (APPROVED) ............................................................................ 76

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20-0809 Request approval of a Resolution authorizing the County Manager and the
County Attorney to negotiate a Lease Agreement for the purpose of
providing space for the Fulton County Registrations and Elections
Department to store elections equipment if required for the November 3rd
Elections; and for other purposes. (Pitts) (APPROVED) ........................ 77

20-0811 DEPARTMENT OF BEHAVIORAL HEALTH AND DEVELOPMENTAL


DISABILITIES REGIONAL ADVISORY COUNCIL (APPROVED) .......... 80

20-0812 Presentation of 2021 Legislative Agenda. (PRESENTED) ..................... 81

20-0813 Executive (CLOSED) Sessions regarding litigation (County Attorney),


real estate (County Manager), and personnel (Pitts). (APPROVED) ... 86

20-0816 ANIMAL WELFARE HEARING BOARD (APPROVED) ........................... 92

20-0817 Discussion: Election Update (DISCUSSED) .......................................... 93

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CONSENT AGENDA

Board of Commissioners

20-0771 Board of Commissioners


Adoption of the Consent Agenda - All matters listed on the Consent Agenda
are considered routine by the County Commission and will be enacted by
one motion. No separate discussion will take place on these items. If
discussion of any Consent Agenda item is desired, the item will be moved
to the Regular Meeting Agenda for separate consideration.
(ADOPTED AS AMENDED)

A motion was made by Commissioner Morris and seconded by


Commissioner Hall to adopt the Consent Agenda as amended by
a removing items # #20-0776, #20-0778, #20-0779 and #20-0780
through #20-0785 for separate consideration as requested by
Commissioner Hall; and adding Commissioners Morris and Carn
as cosponsors on the Proclamation recognizing "Carolyn L.
Banks Appreciation Day.”

The motion passed by the following voice vote:

Yeas: 6 - Hausmann, Ellis, Morris, Hall, Arrington, Carn


Absent: 1 - Pitts

CLERK GRIER: "On page 2, Consent Agenda. 20-0771, adoption of the Consent
Agenda. All matters listed on the Consent Agenda are considered routine by the
County Commission and will be enacted by one motion. No separate discussion will
take place on these items. If discussion of any Consent Agenda item is desired, the
item will be moved to the regularly agenda consent for consideration. Vice Chair and
members of the Board, we have items removed from today's Consent Agenda for
separate consideration as requested by Commissioner Hall. First item found on page 3,
20-0776, public defender. Request approval of renewal of a MOU with United Way of
Greater Atlanta to support and select a group of chronically homeless individuals
released from Fulton County Jail. On page 4, 20-0778, community development.
Request approval to enter into an MOU for emergency solution grant CARES Act to be
used for the provision of emergency shelter [Inaudible] record re-housing to prevent,
repair for this response to the coronavirus pandemic for Fulton County's low-to-
moderate income citizens. On page 5, 20-0779, community development. Request
approval to enter into MOUs for emergency shelter, record re-housing, homeless
prevention. Also, on page 5, 20-0780. Department of HIV elimination. Request
approval of a contract without competition for media services to raise public awareness
to low -- to inform low income persons living with HIV in Fulton, Dekalb, Cobb, and
Gwinnett Counties. On page 6, 20-0781, Real Estate and Asset Management.
Request approval of a resolution approving a licensed agreement for the Georgia
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Department of Human Services Division of Family and Children Services with the use of
county-owned real property for the purpose of distributing toys and economic
assistance. 20-0782, Real Estate and Asset Management. Accept the file -- accept
and file the Fulton County Capital Program quarterly update for the period of July 1,
2020 through September 30th, 2020. 20-0783, human resources management.
Request approval to revise delectation accommodations policy. 20-0784, human
resources management. Request to temporarily promote William Yates to interim chief
of police effective November 4. And the last item, 20-0785, human resource
management. Request approval to make the same modifications to the classification
section and compensation plan."

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "Were those -- were those the removals or that was
the entire agenda?

COMMISSIONER HAUSMANN: "Good question."

PATRISE PERKINS-HOOKER, COUNTY ATTORNEY: "That's two -- [Inaudible]"

COMMISSIONER HAUSMANN: "They were removed for separate consideration from


the consent."

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "Okay."

COMMISSIONER MORRIS: "Mr. Vice Chair --"

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "Yes."

COMMISSIONER MORRIS: "I have one item as well. On the proclamations, if it's not
too late, I would be honored to be included as a sponsor on the Carolyn Long-Banks
Appreciation Day. I've served for four years with her on the Atlanta City Council."

COMMISSIONER CARN: "I would like to -- I would like to as well, Vice Chair."

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "So I don't think this will be a problem. I guess we
just need staff to -- to make sure to accommodate the request to add Commissioner
Morris and Commissioner Carn to the Carolyn Long-Banks proclamation."

CLERK GRIER: "So noted."

COMMISSIONER MORRIS: "If there are no others, Vice Chair, I'd move approval of
Consent Agenda and with those amendments."

COMMISSIONER HALL: "Second."

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "Okay. We got a motion and a second. Let's vote.
Commissioner Hausmann."

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COMMISSIONER HAUSMANN: "Yes."

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "Commissioner Ellis."

COMMISSIONER ELLIS: "Yes."

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "Commissioner Morris."

COMMISSIONER MORRIS: "Yes."

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "Commissioner Hall."

COMMISSIONER HALL: "Yes."

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "I vote yes. Commissioner Carn."

COMMISSIONER CARN: "Yes."

CLERK GRIER: "And the motion -- and the motion passes six yeas, zero nays.

20-0772 Board of Commissioners


Proclamations for Spreading on the Minutes (SPREAD ON THE MINUTES
UPON ADOPTION OF THE CONSENT AGENDA)

Proclamation recognizing "Chief Darryl Halbert Appreciation Day.” (BOC)


October 27, 2020

Proclamation recognizing "Carolyn L. Banks Appreciation Day."


(Arrington/Hall/Morris/Carn)
October 30, 2020

Proclamation recognizing "Donnie Marie Jones Sartor Remembrance Day.”


(Hall)
October 31, 2020

Proclamation recognizing "Dr. Lester Butts Remembrance Day."


(Arrington)
November 4, 2020

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Commissioners' District Board Appointments

20-0773 Board of Commissioners


FULTON COUNTY ARTS COUNCIL (APPROVED UPON ADOPTION OF
THE CONSENT AGENDA)

Term = 2 years

Term below expires: 12/31/2020


Mtamanika Youngblood (Hall)

Commissioner Hall nominated Onaje Henderson to replace Mtamanika


Youngblood for a District appointment to a term ending December 31,
2022.

20-0810 Board of Commissioners


HOUSING AUTHORITY OF FULTON COUNTY (APPROVED UPON
ADOPTION OF THE CONSENT AGENDA)

Term = 5 Years for BOC Appointees


1 Year for Resident Members

Term below expired: 7/13/2017


Mr. Keith I. Milner (Eaves)

Chairman Pitts nominated Claudia E. Colichon for a District


appointment to a term ending July 13, 2022.

Justice and Safety

20-0774 Sheriff
Request renewal of a Sub-Recipient Agreement between the Fulton County
Sheriff's Office and Justice Solution, as the research evaluator to develop
strategic plan and project planning and implementation for the Department
of Health and Human Services SAMSHA Grant. Effective September 30,
2020 - September 29, 2021 with one renewal option remaining. The cost of
the contract shall not exceed $56,250.00. This contract is 100% grant
funded. No County funding is required. (APPROVED UPON ADOPTION
OF THE CONSENT AGENDA)

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20-0775 Medical Examiner
Request approval to renew existing contracts - Medical Examiner's Office,
19ITB465167C-BKJ, Forensic Postmortem Toxicology Testing in the
amount of $94,670.00 with Phoenix Laboratories LLC (Indianapolis, IN) to
provide toxicology testing services. This is the second of two renewal
options. No renewal options remain. Effective dates: January 1, 2021
through December 31, 2021. (APPROVED UPON ADOPTION OF THE
CONSENT AGENDA)

20-0776 Public Defender


Request approval of renewal of an MOU - Office of the Public Defender in
the amount $60,000.00 with United Way of Greater Atlanta (UWGA) and
Fulton County Atlanta, Georgia (from FY2020 Budget appropriation) within
thirty (30) days of signing the MOU. To support a select group of
chronically homeless individuals released from Fulton County Jail providing
transitional housing with case management. To provide assistance to
clients suffering with substance abuse and physical and or mental concerns
as well as placing some clients with mental health or substance abuse
issues in transitional facilities. (APPROVED)

A motion was made by Commissioner Morris and seconded by


Chairman Pitts to approve.

The motion passed by the following voice vote:

Yeas: 6 - Hausmann, Ellis, Morris, Hall, Arrington, Carn


Did not vote: 1 - Pitts

CLERK GRIER: "Okay, Vice Chair and Members of the Board, going back to the
Consent Agenda. Items moved for separate consideration by Commissioner Hall. First
item on the bottom of page 3, 20-0776, public defender request approval a renewal of
an MOU with United Way of Greater Atlanta to support a select group or chronically
homeless individuals released from the Fulton County jail."

COMMISSIONER MORRIS: "I move approval."

CHAIRMAN PITTS: “Second.”

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "Commissioner Hall, did you have -- you know, want
to make a statement? I know you had it removed. Is there any other -- or does anyone
else have any comments or discussion?"

COMMISSIONER HALL: "I just thought it was a really good resolution and that it
deserved a little more information for the public, that's all. It's very good."

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VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "Is there anyone on staff that has more information
about this item or they can provide more information for the public's benefit?"

DR. PAMELA ROSHELL, DEPUTY COO, HHS: "Good afternoon, Vice Chair
Arrington. Pamela Roshell, Deputy Chief Operating Officer. This item is the result of
additional funding from HUD specifically to address homeless issues during the
pandemic. The County received two rounds of funding from HUD for the constituents
who are experiencing homelessness or are at risk of experiencing homelessness, and
this funding was awarded to nonprofit organizations in addition to the municipalities
were offered the opportunity to apply for funding as well."

ANNA ROACH, CHIEF OPERATING OFFICER: "I think this is a public defender item."

DR. PAMELA ROSHELL, DEPUTY COO, HHS: "Okay."

ANNA ROACH, CHIEF OPERATING OFFICER: "I’m not sure. Madam Clerk, could
you clarify for us whether this is the public defender's item, the United Way item?"

CLERK GRIER: "Yes. 0776."

ANNA ROACH, CHIEF OPERATING OFFICER: "This one's a standard -- a standing


agreement we've had with the United Way for several years. I believe Public Defender
Pitts and his staff is on, if they would like to provide additional information."

VERNON PITTS, PUBLIC DEFENDER DIRECTOR: "That is correct. Yeah, this is a


program based on the memorandum of understanding that we've done with the United
Way. This is the fifth year of this program, and what it provides is transitional housing
for Fulton County inmates who are being released from the Fulton County Jail. They
can stay in that housing for up to 90 days, and then they are transitioned into permanent
housing. While they're in this program, they are assigned an ACT team, you know,
Grady Hospital, which is an assertive community treatment team who provides services
and case management for -- for each of the persons in there -- in the program. What
this does is save the County a lot of -- a lot of money in housing inmates with mental
health issues in the Fulton County Jail. It costs approximately $17 a day to keep people
in the program whereas it costs anywhere from $85 to $100 a day to keep them in the
Fulton County Jail. It also gets people into the permanent housing where they also
receive case management and treatment counseling. And it keeps people from going
back to the jail committing crimes. So it's a program that works in the five years that
we've been doing it, I think I am fully aware of maybe two people who dropped out of
the program. In addition to the beds that we provide for mental health clients who are
the toughest people to get out of jail because finding housing is really, really difficult to
get them out. This provides that plus services, and its program that really works, but I
only recall maybe two people in the entire period of this program who dropped out of the
program at the time of COVID virus when the jail has been overcrowded when the
courts have slowed down processing the cases. It is a program that helps everybody
involved in the justice system, and it's one of the things that is mentioned in the

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legislative update regarding the criminal justice system. That's a program that works. It
saves money. I can get some numbers. Last year we had 58 people come through the
program for the $60,000. We also had got some additional beds that were provided for
free for people with drug problems who would stay up to six months in that program.
But if the person stayed in jail, 58 people staying in jail at $85 per day, it would come
out to be $4,938 a day to keep those people in jail. Over a period of 90 days, it would
be $443,700. And we're doing this for $60,000. So it's a program that basically pays for
itself. It helps the clients and -- with the mental health problems and it helps the
community to be better at providing housing for homeless people with mental health
issues, and it also keeps them from coming back and committing crimes and going back
into the jail. So it's one that works and we'd like to thank the United Way for working
with us on this program. In addition to having those bids, it's opened up another
number of programs and housing for us outside of this program for our other clients. So
thank you for giving me an opportunity to talk about this program. It's one that works. It
saves money, and it helped save the community, so are there any questions."

COMMISSIONER HALL: "You are very welcome. No, thank you. My constituents pay
very close attention to the agenda and they ask a lot of questions, especially about
those consent items, and so I can do no extra justice for a program that doesn't belong
to me, and so I'm thankful, Mr. Pitts, for you speaking about your program. It is an
awesome one, and the details were welcomed by my constituents. Thank you so
much."

VERNON PITTS, PUBLIC DEFENDER DIRECTOR: "Thank you, Commissioner."

PATRISE PERKINS-HOOKER, COUNTY ATTORNEY: "Vice Chairman, the


Chairman's out, so you need to call the matter to a vote."

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "Okay. We have a motion and a second?"

COMMISSIONER MORRIS: "We already had that, I believe."

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "All right. Commissioner Hausmann."

COMMISSIONER HAUSMANN: "Yes."

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "Commissioner Ellis."

COMMISSIONER ELLIS: "Yes."

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "Commissioner Morris."

COMMISSIONER MORRIS: "Yes."

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "Commissioner Hall."

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COMMISSIONER HALL: "Yes."

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "I vote yes. Commissioner Carn."

COMMISSIONER CARN: "Yes."

CLERK GRIER: "And the motion passes six yeas, zero nays.”

20-0777 Emergency Services


Request approval of an Intergovernmental Agreement between Fulton
County and the City of Palmetto, for the provision of 9-1-1 Emergency
Communications Services, effective January 1, 2021 through December 31,
2021 with three (3) automatic renewals commencing January 1 of each
successive year, in the amount of $57,000.00. This amount is a revenue
increase to Fulton County for services provided. (APPROVED UPON
ADOPTION OF THE CONSENT AGENDA)

Health and Human Services

20-0778 Community Development


Request approval to enter into a Memorandum of Understanding between
Fulton County, Georgia, on behalf of its Department of Community
Development, for Emergency Solutions Grants CARES Act (ESG CV 2)
total amounts— ESG CARES ACT II to be used for the provision of
Emergency Shelter, Outreach, Rapid Rehousing to prevent, prepare for,
and respond to the coronavirus pandemic for Fulton County’s low to
moderate income citizens with the following service providers: (Partnership
Against Domestic Violence (PADV) - $152,000, Community Assistance
Center - $152,000.00, City of East Point- $152,000.00, North Fulton
Community Charities (NFCC) - $152,000.00, Chris 180 - $152,000.00, The
Drake House - $152,000.00, Young Adult Guidance Center -$152,000.00,
Gateway Center - $302,000.00, GA Department of Community Affairs -
$12,649.14). The approval of this agenda item will also authorize the
Chairman to execute future documents related to this specific grant and this
Agenda Item. (APPROVED)

A motion was made by Commissioner Hall and seconded by


Commissioner Carn to approve items #20-0778, #20-0779 and
#20-0780.

The motion passed by the following voice vote:

Yeas: 5 - Hausmann, Ellis, Hall, Arrington, Carn


Did not vote: 2 - Pitts, Morris

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CLERK GRIER: “Next item on page 4, removed for separate consideration by
Commissioner Hall item 20-0778, community development. Request approval to enter
into a MOU for emergency solutions grant CARES Act to be used for the provision of
emergency shelter, outreach, record, re-housing to prevent, prepare for responding to
the coronavirus pandemic for Fulton County’s low to moderate income citizens."

COMMISSIONER HALL: "Thank you. Is there anyone that can speak to this particular
item? It might have been the one that -- I think this might have been the one that Dr.
Roshell was speaking of before, right?"

ANNA ROACH, CHIEF OPERATING OFFICER: "It was, Commissioner Hall, and Dr.
Roshell is here. I also wanted to ask you if you were interested in hearing 0779 and
0780 together since they're related. I'm sorry --"

COMMISSIONER HALL: "Yes. I was going to ask if that could be done. Thank you."

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "It sounds like a motion to reconsider the agenda."

COMMISSIONER HALL: "Absolutely, and just hear those together, if you want."

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "Motion to hear those three items together. I'll
second it. All right. Let's have a vote. Motion to hear these three items together.
Commissioner Hausmann."

COMMISSIONER HAUSMANN: "Yes."

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "Commissioner Ellis."

COMMISSIONER ELLIS: "Yes."

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "Commissioner Morris."

COMMISSIONER MORRIS: "Yes."

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "Commissioner Hall."

COMMISSIONER HALL: "Yes."

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "I vote yes. Commissioner Carn."

COMMISSIONER CARN: "Yes."

CLERK GRIER: "And the motion passes six yeas, zero nays."

ANNA ROACH, CHIEF OPERATING OFFICER: "Dr. Roshell."

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DR. PAMELA ROSHELL, DEPUTY COO, HHS: "Good afternoon again. Pamela
Roshell, Deputy Chief Operating Officer. The first two items are related to our homeless
division and our ESG funding. The first wave of funding is related to our HUD cares
funding that the County received, and this item provides awards to non-profit
organizations and the City of East Point with the Division of Homeless Services related
to the pandemic. The second item is also ESG funded; however, it is our regular or
routine allocation from HUD, and this allocation provides the same type of service
provision for homeless constituents and those constituents that may be on the brink of
experiencing homelessness. The third item is the HIV elimination item. This item is to
provide a best practice and media campaign and will allow the Department of HIV
Elimination to engage in the greater than AIDS public information campaign related to
the HIV epidemic."

COMMISSIONER HALL: "Move approval."

COMMISSIONER CARN: "I have a second with discussion. I definitely think obviously
this is something that's greatly and sorely needed. I see the Gateway Center is
included in this -- some of this funding. You know one of the things I see around
downtown here in between our office of the government center, the Atlanta City Hall, as
well as our state capital, obviously, when we pull into work here, some of us see the
homeless population underneath the bridges and viaducts and thoroughfares there
connecting I-20 to 85 and 75 both north and south. I visit the state capital frequently,
and I remember a couple of weeks ago myself and Commissioner Hall went up for
Commissioner Darnell's dedication to her interchange, which was a great event, by the
way. We literally were almost walking over homeless individuals there. This is a
heartbreaking situation where I pull in here, you know, throughout the week and pass by
so many homeless folks. I guess I want to ask Dr. Roshell, can we ask some of these
organizations to directly address those individuals in and around our government
complexes in particular? You know, I know some people choose not to have any
homeless services or don’t want shelter, but that's not always necessarily the case. I
guess my question is how do we reach those people that we see every day literally
blocks from here or how do we get these organizations to go and see about these folks
specifically around here at our doorstep that obviously need help, and you're looking at
millions of dollars of funds here and, again, those two blocks up the road, you know,
they may not know with passing this or they may not benefit from this funding. So how
can we direct some of these organizations to go see about those folks in our immediate
surroundings and the immediate surrounding of the Gateway Center in particular?"

DR. PAMELA ROSHELL, DEPUTY COO, HHS: "Thank you for the question,
Commissioner Carn. A partner organization that we work with closely is Partners for
Home. They receive funding. They also receive the same ESG funding that the County
receives and they provide the services immediately surrounding the Fulton County
Government Center and within the City of Atlanta. We do partner with them on a variety
of homeless initiatives. For example, we partner with them on the weather initiative
where we provide transportation for homeless individuals during cold months, and we
also work with them on our permanent supportive housing, and have worked with them

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also on our isolation hotel. But the immediate area surrounding the Government Center
and the capital is within the purview of the City of Atlanta who did receive ESG COVID
funding and an ESG allocation as well."

COMMISSIONER CARN: "Well, I --"

ANNA ROACH, CHIEF OPERATING OFFICER: "They do have a homeless outreach


team, much like Fulton County does, and that team does go around and engage with
individuals that are under the underpass that you see out there as well as around the
buildings. That responds -- again, sometimes, it's not lasting. They do go and engage
with those homeless individuals. But as Dr. Roshell stated, they are funded and have
matching services like us. But one thing we could do, Commissioner Carn, is identify
the specific need you're talking about with our partners in the City of Atlanta at Partners
for Home and ask them to address those specific needs."

COMMISSIONER CARN: "Yeah, yeah. And I -- and I do see the partners address
them at times. I see the vans that pull up on the side of the road that do feedings, and
that's a great thing. But I don't think this is a jurisdictional issue. This is just an issue of
need, and all of these organizations, if we're giving them this funding, I want us to make
sure we let them know specifically that there are individuals that we see every day here
that -- and from what I've seen, you know, we put money into this stuff, but it doesn't
seem like that problem gets any better. And I’m not a homeless expert, but I know what
I see and whatever's being done, it doesn't seem to be effective enough, or obviously
it's not because there's still homelessness and there's still a need. And obviously, -- I
know money doesn't resolve all of our issues, but I'd like us to -- when we hand this
money over to all of these groups, jurisdiction or not, I want us to point that out and
mention that and see if they can do something more direct there in those surrounding
areas. So I want us to make a concerted effort and if we are making an effort, I want us
to double those efforts. So that's all I got on that.

ANNA ROACH, CHIEF OPERATING OFFICER: "Thank you, Commissioner Carn."

PATRISE PERKINS-HOOKER, COUNTY ATTORNEY: "Vice Chair, you need to call


those votes."

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "I'm sorry. I was on mute. It’s been properly moved
and seconded. Commissioner Hausmann."

COMMISSIONER HAUSMANN: "Yes."

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "Commissioner Ellis."

COMMISSIONER ELLIS: "Yes."

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "Commissioner Morris. Commissioner Morris.


Commissioner Hausmann – I mean Commissioner Hall."

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COMMISSIONER HALL: "Yes."

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "I vote yes. Commissioner Carn."

COMMISSIONER CARN: "Yes."

CLERK GRIER: "And the motion passes five yeas, zero nays.”

20-0779 Community Development


Request approval to enter into a Memorandum of Understandings between
Fulton County, Georgia, on behalf of its Department of Community
Development, for Emergency Solutions Grants (ESG) total amounts— (A)
ESG 2019 ($300,803.00) ) for Emergency Shelter, Rapid Rehousing,
Homeless Prevention with the following service providers - Travelers Aid of
Metropolitan Atlanta dba Hope Atlanta - $50,803.00, Gateway Center -
$75,000.00, City of East Point - $50,000.00, North Fulton Community
Charities (NFCC) - $50,000.00, The Drake House - $25,000.00, Youth
Empowerment - $25,000.00, and Community Assistance Center -
$25,000.00); and (B) ESG 2020 ($308,286.00) for Emergency Shelter,
Outreach, Rapid Rehousing, Prevention, with the following service
providers (Partnership Against Domestic Violence (PADV- $50,000.00,
Travelers Aid of Metropolitan Atlanta dba Hope Atlanta - $50,000.00,
Gateway Center - $,50,000.00, City of East Point - $50,000.00, Society of
Saint Vincent DePaul, GA - $33,286.00, Latin American Association -
$50,000.00, and Youth Empowerment - $25,000.00):. The approval of this
agenda item will also authorize the Chairman to execute future documents
related to this specific grant and this Agenda Item. (APPROVED)

A motion was made by Commissioner Hall and seconded by


Commissioner Carn to approve items #20-0778, #20-0779 and
#20-0780.

The motion passed by the following voice vote:

Yeas: 5 - Hausmann, Ellis, Hall, Arrington, Carn


Did not vote: 2 - Pitts, Morris

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20-0780 Department for HIV Elimination
Requested approval of a contract without competition for media services in
an amount not to exceed $250,000 per year for each of five years with
Henry J. Kaiser Family Foundation (Menlo Park, CA) to provide a targeted
outreach campaign using Greater Than AIDS. The purpose is to raise
public awareness to inform low-income Persons Living with HIV in Fulton,
DeKalb, Cobb, and Gwinnett Counties of the importance of accessing care
and treatment services in an effort to reach viral suppression, the
availability of Ryan White Services, and connection to Ryan White service
providers. Effective upon BOC approval through February 28, 2025. The
contract is 100% grant funded through the Health Resources and Services
Administration (HRSA) Ending the HIV Epidemic funding (1
UT8HA339330100). Request authorization for the Chairman to execute
contract with Kaiser Family Foundation. To protect the interest of the
County, the County Attorney is authorized to approve the contracts as to
form and substance and make any necessary modifications thereto prior to
execution by the Chairman. (APPROVED)

A motion was made by Commissioner Hall and seconded by


Commissioner Carn to approve items #20-0778, #20-0779 and
#20-0780

The motion passed by the following voice vote:

Yeas: 5 - Hausmann, Ellis, Hall, Arrington, Carn


Did not vote: 2 - Pitts, Morris

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Open and Responsible Government

20-0781 Real Estate and Asset Management


Request approval of a Resolution approving a License Agreement between
Fulton County, Georgia, and the Georgia Department of Human Services,
Division of Family & Children Services, for the use of County owned real
property for the purpose of distributing toys and economic assistance from
within a Fulton County-owned real property; to authorize the Chairman or
the County Manager to execute the License Agreement; to authorize the
County Attorney to approve the License Agreement as to form and to make
necessary modifications thereto prior to execution. Effective upon
execution through March 4, 2021, unless amended. (APPROVED)

A motion was made by Commissioner Hall and seconded by


Vice-Chairman Arrington to approve.

The motion passed by the following voice vote:

Yeas: 5 - Hausmann, Ellis, Hall, Arrington, Carn


Did not vote: 2 - Pitts, Morris

CLERK GRIER: “Next item removed from this Consent Agenda for separate
consideration by Commissioner Hall are on page 6, 20-0781, Real Estate and Asset
Management. Request approval of a resolution approving a lease agreement with the
Georgia Department of Human Services, Division of Family and Children Services for
the use of County owned real property for the purpose of distributing toys and economic
assistance."

COMMISSIONER HALL: "Yes. I asked for this one to be pulled because it is absolutely
a great thing that Fulton County is doing, but the public had asked, you know, for details
on what it is and why."

JOE DAVIS, DIRECTOR, D.R.E.A.M.: "Hello, Commissioner Hall. This particular item
is a use agreement between Fulton County Department of Family and Children Services
in Fulton County for the use of our -- the currently vacant 475 Fairborn Road property.
That property is literally a few blocks up the street from Fulton County DFCS offices on
Fairborn Road. They have an annual toy drive where they are distributing toys to needy
children and families across the County, and they need a staging location where all the
toys can be brought, donated toys could be brought to one central location and then
subsequently distributed to the public. So they need a place. They need a building.
And we have one up the street from them, so it makes it logistically easy for them. This
will be our third year that we have partnered with DFCS to do this. And with your
approval, we'll continue."

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COMMISSIONER HALL: "Absolutely. Thank you so much. I know that Lydia has
been at the helm of this all three years and I just think the continuation of it is awesome.
So thank you for that. And I move approval.

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "I'll second that. Anymore discussion? If not, we'll
vote. Commissioner Hausmann?"

COMMISSIONER HAUSMANN: "Yes."

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "Commissioner Ellis."

COMMISSIONER ELLIS: "Yes."

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "Commissioner Morris." Commissioner Hall."

COMMISSIONER HALL: "Yes."

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "I vote yes. Commissioner Carn."

COMMISSIONER CARN: "Yes."

CLERK GRIER: "The motion passes five yeas, zero nays.”

20-0782 Real Estate and Asset Management


Accept and file the Fulton County Capital Program Quarterly Update for the
period July 1, 2020 – September 30, 2020. (APPROVED)

A motion was made by Commissioner Hall and seconded by


Commissioner Carn to approve.

The motion passed by the following voice vote:

Yeas: 6 - Hausmann, Ellis, Morris, Hall, Arrington, Carn


Did not vote: 1 - Pitts

CLERK GRIER: “20-0782, Real Estate and Asset Management rent and filed with
Fulton County Capital Program Quarterly Report for the period of July 1st through
September 30th, 2020."

COMMISSIONER HALL: "Yes. I asked for this to be pulled because generally we do


get sort of a presentation on capital improvement updates and I just wanted to get a
quick overview for the public on what's being covered in this particular update."

JOE DAVIS, DIRECTOR, D.R.E.A.M.: "Commissioner, this particular report is intended


to cover our very large capital projects across multiple program areas. Those areas

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being the Urban Redevelopment Bond. It also covers capital projects owned by
DREAM, building construction as well as DREAM's HVAC unit. So ultimately, we have
multiple projects related to infrastructure under the urban redevelopment bond that will
complete major mechanical, electrical, and plumbing upgrades in all our downtown
facilities. We also have several HVAC projects throughout the county that we're actually
finalizing where we have either upgraded the mechanical equipment and/or the controls
giving us the ability to more efficiently regulate temperature in facilities. And lastly,
there is also the way finding project that's included in this that we'll see a significant
improvement in the overall branding of the justice center as well as the juvenile justice
center as it relates to way finding in and around those facilities, which has been proven
to be very difficult over the years."

COMMISSIONER HALL: "Thank you. Because when I was out and about over the past
couple of weeks, I consistently got questions about the libraries and what's opened and
what's closed and I couldn't find a recent update on that particular -- on those particular
renovations. Can you just briefly tell us quickly about what libraries are being renovated
still and what the expected opening date might be?"

JOE DAVIS, DIRECTOR, D.R.E.A.M.: "The final round of library renovations will
include those -- the Ponce de Leon library. It will also include, which is -- and like I said
before, we're finishing this up. We're actually starting to plan the reopening’s of multiple
facilities. And if you can bear with me for a second, I can give you the specific facilities.
All libraries have been completed with the exception of the Hapeville library, which is
still under construction as well as the central library. We just received an update on the
central library late last week in which there will be a staggered reopening by floor. We
anticipate those reopening’s to start within the second to third week of November
concluding in the first week or second week of December, at which point, the entire
central library will be reopened. The Hapeville library is projected to be completed --
bear with me, the third week of November."

COMMISSIONER HALL: "Thank you so much. I move approval."

JOE DAVIS, DIRECTOR, D.R.E.A.M.: "Thank you, ma'am."

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "All right. So properly moved and seconded. Any
more discussion?"

COMMISSIONER HALL: "Who seconded it?"

PATRISE PERKINS-HOOKER, COUNTY ATTORNEY: "There's not a second, Vice


Chairman."

COMMISSIONER CARN: "I seconded it. I may have been on mute."

PATRISE PERKINS-HOOKER, COUNTY ATTORNEY: "Okay."

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VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "Anymore discussion? All right, Commissioner
Hausmann."

COMMISSIONER HAUSMANN: "This is motion is to approve for it?"

CLERK GRIER: "The motion is to accept and file."

COMMISSIONER HAUSMANN: "Yes."

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "Commissioner Ellis."

COMMISSIONER ELLIS: "Yes."

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "Commissioner Morris."

COMMISSIONER MORRIS: "Yes."

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "Commissioner Hall."

COMMISSIONER HALL: "Yes."

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "I vote yes. Commissioner Carn."

COMMISSIONER CARN: "Yes."

CLERK GRIER: "The motion passes, six yeas, zero nays.”

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20-0783 Human Resources Management
Request approval to revise the Lactation Accommodation Policy (105-16) to
reflect recent legislative changes to O.C.G.A. 45-1-7. (HELD)

a. A motion was made by Commissioner Hall and seconded by


Commissioner Carn to approve.

b. A substitute motion was made by Commissioner Hall and


seconded by Commissioner Carn to hold.

The motion passed by the following voice vote:

Yeas: 5 - Hausmann, Morris, Hall, Arrington, Carn


Did not vote: 2 - Pitts, Ellis

CLERK GRIER: “Continuing on page 6, 20-0783, Human Resources Management.


Requests approval to revise the lactation accommodation policy."

COMMISSIONER HALL: "I pulled this because it's policy, and so it was a little odd to
me that it was on the Consent Agenda and also, because there was nothing showing
the exact changes that were being made to the policy. But I did see -- I did finally
receive the changes from Mr. Hermon and thank you for that. I think I see you on there,
Mr. Hermon. Thank you for providing the changes to show what had been revised in
this. But my question was about why was it on consent when it's actually a policy
change?

PATRISE PERKINS-HOOKER, COUNTY ATTORNEY: "Commissioner Hall, there was


no requirement for any mention of the Board to be on one plot of the agenda or the
other. Any matter can be taken up by consent. There was just a thought process that
no one would have any objection to this particular matter since it was just coming
current with legislative, you know, changes. And so it was just placed on the Consent
Agenda because that's where you place things that are not controversial or that meets
certain dollar limits. So it's not -- there is no magic formula to where things that are
policy considerations go for the Board."

COMMISSIONER HALL: "Okay. Well I believe that if you're making change to policy,
that it does not need to be on a Consent Agenda because it's not discussed. We do
need to discuss any policy change because, as Board of Commissioners, we are
responsible for those changes, and we should also know exactly what changes are
being made to the policy because we are the Board of Commissioners, and it is our
responsibility to make those changes. So that's just my input on that. And since I do
now know what the changes are because Mr. Hermon did provide that, I'll go ahead and
move approval."

COMMISSIONER CARN: "I'll second that with a quick discussion. I agree. Obviously,
we want to follow proper procedure. I think this is a great bill that was passed. I

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personally want to thank my state representative Kim Scofield, who was very
instrumental in making sure this legislation was available and helped to make it happen,
I was told. But I'll definitely second, second that."

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "All right, properly moved and seconded. Let's vote.
Commissioner Hausmann"

COMMISSIONER HAUSMANN: "I don't know that if I was provided with the policy."

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "Mr. Hermon, do you want to perhaps speak briefly on
this item for the sake of the public?"

KENNETH HERMON, CHIEF HR OFFICER: "Yes, I do. All Commissioners were


provided information on that vote last Thursday or Friday. But I have Lanna Hill here,
who can -- who's the policy administrator for the HR department that can dive into the
details behind the state law and why we're making a change, Lanna."

LANNA HILL, HR POLICY ADMINISTRATOR: "Good afternoon, Commissioners. So


essentially Fulton County's current policy is based primarily on federal law and, up until
now, federal law and state law have been pretty consistent, but the Georgia Legislature
did make those changes, which makes their requirements of state law more robust than
the requirements of the federal law. Under the federal law, which again, our current
policy is based on, employers had to pay -- had provided unpaid lactation time to
nonexempt employees for the first four months after childbirth. Under Georgia law, it
covers all employees and is a paid break time, and then there is no time limitation on
the number of years that a mother can lactate. So those are the three main differences
between state and federal law. And again, we'll try to approve our policy into
compliance with state law."

COMMISSIONER HALL: "Okay. Well let me just say this because Mr. Hermon alluded
to having sent something on Thursday or Friday. When I asked Mr. Hermon to send me
was the redline version so that I can actually know what the actual changes were to the
policy because that was not provided. So thank you, Mr. Hermon."

COMMISSIONER HAUSMANN: "So my internet went out for a moment and I


apologize. I missed the entire discussion. I haven't reviewed the policy. I may -- I have
no issues with it whatsoever, but I agree that policy should not be on a Consent
Agenda. They should be discussed with the Commissioners. I would like the
opportunity to look at it. If this is crucial, somebody needs to tell me that. Otherwise, I
would appreciate just holding it to allow everybody the opportunity to really look at it."

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "Commissioner Hausmann, if I can just briefly update
you on what they said. Basically, our current policy mirrors the federal policy. There
was a change in state law. The federal policy and our current policy basically allowed
for unpaid lactation time. The new Georgia law requires for paid time for lactation and

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removes the 12-month limit, you know, so. I don't know if it's crucial, but it certainly will
bring our current policy into compliance with the new state law."

COMMISSIONER HAUSMANN: "And I can appreciate that. I'm not opposed to, you
know, making a change to conform with state law. I am opposed to having policy slid
under, you know, without any sort of review or discussion or even, you know, attention
paid to it. So I'm not going to vote for it if we're going to rush it through like that without
any, you know, attention paid to it."

KENNETH HERMON, CHIEF HR OFFICER: "Commissioner, the policy change is not


crucial. We can take limit until the next Board meeting. I will ensure to recirculate the
communication to include a redline, and a clean version which was part of the original
document so that everyone can have it and then we can take -- we can address it at the
next Board Meeting."

COMMISSIONER HAUSMANN: "I would appreciate that in this case and I would
appreciate it in every case, thank you."

COMMISSIONER HALL: "So I'll take that as a friendly amendment and remove my
motion to approve so that we can hold it."

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "Okay. I think, Commissioner Carn, do you still want
to second?"

COMMISSIONER CARN: "Yes, I will remove that as well."

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "All right. But are you seconding a new motion?"

COMMISSIONER HALL: "Let's second the new motion."

COMMISSIONER CARN: "Yes, yes. Yes."

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "All right. So motion -- on the motion to hold,
Commissioner Hausmann."

COMMISSIONER HAUSMANN: "Yes."

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "Commissioner Ellis. Commissioner Ellis,


Commissioner Morris."

COMMISSIONER MORRIS: "Yes."

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "Commissioner Hall."

COMMISSIONER HALL: "Yes."

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VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "I vote yes. Commissioner Carn."

COMMISSIONER CARN: "Yes."

CLERK GRIER: "And the motion passes to hold, five yeas, zero nays.”

20-0784 Human Resources Management


Request to temporarily promote William Yates to Interim Chief of Police,
effective November 4, 2020, at the rate of $135,000.00 per year.
(APPROVED)

A motion was made by Commissioner Hall and seconded by


Commissioner Ellis to approve.

The motion passed by the following voice vote:

Yeas: 6 - Hausmann, Ellis, Morris, Hall, Arrington, Carn


Did not vote: 1 - Pitts

CLERK GRIER: “20-0784, Human Resources Management. Requests to temporarily


promote William Yates to interim police chief effective November 4th."

DICK ANDERSON, COUNTY MANAGER: "Mr. Vice Chair, would you like for me to
comment on this?"

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "Thank you, Mr. Manager."

DICK ANDERSON, COUNTY MANAGER: "Yes, sir. Commissioners, as you recall, in


executive session, we discussed the necessity to backfill Chief Halbert upon his
announced retirement, which was October 26th. We had a very nice session
recognizing Chief Halbert along with Fulton County Police Department last week. Now,
we are bringing this forward which puts Deputy Chief Yates into this position as interim.
He's been deputy chief since 2017. He has been with the department over 25 years
starting in patrol, being a lieutenant in the patrol division, a captain in the criminal
investigations' division and then a major over our special operative SWAT team. So as
we move forward, we would be looking at the appropriate timing and process for a
search as I've done several times with the Board, and then narrowing down a list of
candidates to bring back to the Board for your consideration and ultimate approval for
the Chief of Police of Fulton County."

COMMISSIONER HALL: "Thank you. Move approval."

COMMISSIONER ELLIS: "Second."

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VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "Properly moved and seconded. Is there -- unless
there's more discussion, we'll take a vote. Commissioner Hausmann.”

COMMISSIONER HAUSMANN: "Well, I want to just say congratulations in advance to


Interim Chief Yates. Appreciate your willingness to step into this role and I vote yes."

KENNETH HERMON, CHIEF HR OFFICER: "Mr. Chair, Mr. Vice Chair, before -- I
heard Tonya say November 4th. My agenda item says October 28th. So I just wanted
to get confirmation on the date."

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "I think it would have to be effective as of today
unless we were ratifying something that was done previously.

COMMISSIONER HALL: "Mine says November 4th as well."

COMMISSIONER HAUSMANN: "Which is today; is it not?"

COMMISSIONER HALL: "Yeah, yeah, exactly.

COMMISSIONER ELLIS: "My suggestion, Mr. Vice Chair, we leave it November 4th."

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "Okay. Commissioner Ellis."

COMMISSIONER ELLIS: "Yes."

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "Commissioner Morris."

COMMISSIONER MORRIS: "Yes."

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "Commissioner Hall."

COMMISSIONER HALL: "Yes."

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "I vote yes. Commissioner Carn."

COMMISSIONER CARN: "Yes."

CLERK GRIER: "And the motion passes. Six yeas, zero nays."

COMMISSIONER HAUSMANN: "Congratulations."

DICK ANDERSON, COUNTY MANAGER: "Thank you, Commissioners."

COMMISSIONER HALL: "Congratulations."

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20-0785 Human Resources Management
Request approval to make routine modifications to the classification section
of the Classification and Compensation plan, by adding new titles, revising
existing titles and/or changing assigned grades. (APPROVED)

A motion was made by Commissioner Hall and seconded by


Vice-Chairman Arrington to approve.

The motion passed by the following voice vote:

Yeas: 6 - Hausmann, Ellis, Morris, Hall, Arrington, Carn


Did not vote: 1 - Pitts

CLERK GRIER: "Okay, last item for separate consideration. 20-0785, Human
Resource Management. Request approval to make routine modifications with
participation section for the classification and compensation plan."

COMMISSIONER HALL: "I pulled this because I saw that it said it was a chief of staff
title change, and I just wanted to know was this change going to impact all chief of staff
positions across the board for all elected official staff or I wasn't sure. Because I noticed
that this is -- I think it's in the DA's office?"

STACEY JONES, DEPUTY CHIEF HUMAN RESOURCES OFFICER: "Good


afternoon Commissioners, deputy chief human resources officer. This change, yes,
you're correct. It is a title change of the chief of staff district attorney that would be
changing to a chief of staff appointed and essentially, we currently have multiple
department specific chief of staff titles in our classification plan, and this change would
really create one general chief of staff title that could be shared among other elective
official offices. I would like to say and clarify though that this change does not have any
impact on any current occupied position or any positions in the commissioner's office."

COMMISSIONER HALL: "Thank you so much. Move approval."

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "I have a question. Have we spoken with, I guess the
current and/or the incoming DA about this change?"

KENNETH HERMON, CHIEF HR OFFICER: "We've had conversations with the


incoming DA and was active to facilitate her transition as well, as well as the incoming
sheriff to make this -- this chief of staff title generic so that they could fill that role without
having to create a chief of staff sheriff's office, a chief of staff DA's office, a chief of staff
solicitor's office. It just keeps our classification plan a little cleaner, Commissioners."

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "All right. I mean, I'm happy to support this. I just
don't, you know -- I get weary about routine things because what's routine for someone
may not be routine for someone else. But I'm happy to support this. All right properly
moved and seconded."

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PATRISE PERKINS-HOOKER, COUNTY ATTORNEY: "[Inaudible]. It doesn't have a
second one."

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "I'll second it. Any discussion? If not, let's vote.
Commissioner Hausmann"

COMMISSIONER HAUSMANN: "Yes."

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "Commissioner Ellis."

COMMISSIONER ELLIS: "Yes."

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "Commissioner Morris."

COMMISSIONER MORRIS: "Yes."

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "Commissioner Hall."

COMMISSIONER HALL: "Yes."

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "I vote yes. Commissioner Carn."

COMMISSIONER CARN: "Yes."

CLERK GRIER: "The motion passes, six yeas, zero nays.”

20-0786 Real Estate and Asset Management


Request approval of a Resolution approving a Third Amendment to Master
Lease Agreement for Facilities between Fulton County, Georgia (tenant),
and KDI ATLANTA MALL, LLC (landlord), for the purpose of extending the
lease term for the operations of the Fulton County Tax Commissioner at
2841 Greenbriar Parkway Atlanta in the amount of $97,119.16; to authorize
the Chairman to execute a Third Amendment to Master Lease Agreement
for Facilities and related documents; to authorize the County Attorney to
approve the Third Amendment to Master Lease Agreement for Facilities
and related documents as to form and to make any modifications thereto
prior to execution. The term of the Third Amendment runs from January 1,
2021 and ends on December 31, 2021. (APPROVED UPON ADOPTION
OF THE CONSENT AGENDA)

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REGULAR MEETING AGENDA

Board of Commissioners

20-0787 Board of Commissioners


Adoption of the Regular Meeting Agenda. (ADOPTED AS AMENDED)

a. A motion was made by Commissioner Morris and seconded


by Commissioner Carn to adopt the Regular Meeting Agenda as
amended by removing item #20-0807 as requested by the County
Manager; by a supermajority vote adding items #20-0816 and as
requested by Vice-Chairman Arrington, #20-0817 as requested
by Vice-Chairman Arrington and Commissioner Hausmann.

The motion passed by the following voice vote:

Yeas: 6 - Hausmann, Ellis, Morris, Hall, Arrington, Carn


Absent: 1 - Pitts

LATER IN THE MEETING:

b. A motion was made by Commissioner Hall and seconded by


Vice-Chairman Arrington to reconsider the Agenda to hear
together items #20-0778, #20-0779 and #20-0780.

The motion passed by the following voice vote:

Yeas: 6 - Hausmann, Ellis, Morris, Hall, Arrington, Carn


Did not vote: 1 - Pitts

CLERK GRIER: “There's an item to be added, as requested by Vice Chair Arrington to


today's Regular Meeting Agenda on page 4 of the add-on memo. 20-0816, animal
welfare hearing board, Vice Chairman Arrington has nominated Jessica Hamby for a
district appointment to a term ending December 31, 2022."

ANNA ROACH, CHIEF OPERATING OFFICER: "Mr. Chairman?"

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "Yes."

ANNA ROACH, CHIEF OPERATING OFFICER: "Vice Chair Arrington, this is Anna
Roach, the Chief Operating Officer. I also have an additional request with respect to the
regular agenda. Item number 20-0807. It is a public works item for the lowest
responsible bidder on the air field lighting project. We received some information from
GDOT that will require us to update this item, so we're asking that this item be removed
from this agenda, and we will bring back in two weeks."

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CLERK GRIER: "What was that item?"

ANNA ROACH, CHIEF OPERATING OFFICER: "Yes, ma'am. That's 20-0807 on


page 12.

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "Do we have an election update on the regular
agenda?"

ANNA ROACH, CHIEF OPERATING OFFICER: "Mr. Chairman, the elections update
is part of the first item, the COVID response."

COMMISSIONER HAUSMANN: "There is an update included in that for elections?"

ANNA ROACH, CHIEF OPERATING OFFICER: "Yes, Commissioner Hausmann. It's


on the last page, but given the lateness of the election, we were reserving the slides
until this morning."

COMMISSIONER HAUSMANN: "But someone will be here to answer questions?"

ANNA ROACH, CHIEF OPERATING OFFICER: "Yes, ma'am. That is my


understanding.”

COMMISSIONER HAUSMANN: "Thank you. Well if not, I wanted to make an


amendment as well to do that. So I know that Vice Chair's speaking on it too, but –"

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "So I think we'll just add a specific item for elections
update. I mean it's fine if you include it in the COVID update, but I want to make sure
that we do at least get that --”

ANNA ROACH, CHIEF OPERATING OFFICER: "Yes, sir."

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "-- added to the specific items. So --"

COMMISSIONER HAUSMANN: "I'll second that."

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "Thank you."

COMMISSIONER CARN: "Is Rick going to be here, because I'd like to hear from Rick.
Is he going to -- I'm assuming he's presenting."

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "Plus he's going to be here now, but hopefully
someone can give us an update. I know the Chair is at the Georgia World Congress
Center. I'm not sure if he's with Rick and/or County Manager or not. But let's go back.
We had the one item, Animal Welfare Board, as well as the elections. Was there
another item to be added? So Commissioner Hausmann, are you seconding both of
those items or just the elections item?"

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COMMISSIONER HAUSMANN: "I don't know if procedurally we can do them together.
If we can, that's fine, to do them together."

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "I guess what I'm asking though is as far as putting
both of those items onto the agenda."

COMMISSIONER HAUSMANN: "No, I'm fine with putting them together, if it's allowed
procedurally."

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "I don't think we have to put them together, but I think
we can vote to add both of them to the Agenda at the same time."

COMMISSIONER HAUSMANN: "That's what I was referring to. Thank you for that
clarification."

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "Okay. So we've got a -- I guess a motion to add
those two items. Is there a second?"

CLERK GRIER: "This is a motion to add the Animal Welfare Hearing Board. We can
also do a motion to do the elections item."

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "Let's just do them separately so that it's clean and
clear."

PATRISE PERKINS-HOOKER, COUNTY ATTORNEY: "Yes, yes. Let's do it, Vice


Chair."

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "So I'll make the motion on the Animal Welfare Board.
Is there a second?"

COMMISSIONER ELLIS: "Second."

COMMISSIONER CARN: "Second."

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "All right. Properly moved and seconded.
Commissioner Hausmann"

COMMISSIONER HAUSMANN: "Yes."

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "Commissioner Ellis."

COMMISSIONER ELLIS: "Yes."

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "Commissioner Morris."

COMMISSIONER MORRIS: "Yes."

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VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "Commissioner Hall."

COMMISSIONER HALL: "Yes."

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "I vote yes. Commissioner Carn."

COMMISSIONER CARN: "Yes."

CLERK GRIER: "And the motion passes six yeas, zero nays."

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "Okay. And then there's a second motion to add a
separate elections update item."

COMMISSIONER HAUSMANN: "I'll second that."

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "All right. I'll make the motion. Commissioner
Hausmann seconded it. Let's vote. Commissioner Hausmann."

COMMISSIONER HAUSMANN: "Yes."

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "Commissioner Ellis."

COMMISSIONER ELLIS: "Yes."

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "Commissioner Morris."

COMMISSIONER MORRIS: "Yes."

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "Commissioner Hall."

COMMISSIONER HALL: "Yes."

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "I vote yes. And Commissioner Carn."

COMMISSIONER CARN: "Yes."

CLERK GRIER: "And the motion passes six yeas, zero nays."

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "All right. Next item, Madam Clerk."

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20-0788 Clerk to the Commission
Ratification of Minutes. (RATIFIED)

Regular Meeting Minutes, October 7, 2020


Recess Meeting Post Agenda Minutes, October 21, 2020

A motion was made by Commissioner Ellis and seconded by


Commissioner Carn to ratify the meeting minutes.

The motion passed by the following voice vote:

Yeas: 6 - Hausmann, Ellis, Morris, Hall, Arrington, Carn


Absent: 1 - Pitts

CLERK GRIER: “20-0788, ratification of minutes, Regular Meeting minutes October 7th
and Recess Meeting Post Agenda minutes October 21, 2020."

COMMISSIONER ELLIS: "Move approval."

COMMISSIONER CARN: "Second."

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "All right. Any discussion? Commissioner


Hausmann."

COMMISSIONER HAUSMANN: "Yes."

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "Commissioner Ellis."

COMMISSIONER ELLIS: "Yes."

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "Commissioner Morris."

COMMISSIONER MORRIS: "Yes."


VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "Commissioner Hall."

COMMISSIONER HALL: "Yes."

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "I vote yes. Commissioner Carn."

COMMISSIONER CARN: "Yes."

CLERK GRIER: "And the motion passes six yeas, zero nays.”

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20-0789 Board of Commissioners
Presentation of Proclamations and Certificates (NONE)

PUBLIC HEARINGS

Board of Commissioners

20-0790 Board of Commissioners


Public Comment - Citizens are allowed to voice County-related opinions,
concerns, requests, etc. during the Public Comment portion of the
Commission meeting. Speakers will be granted up to two minutes each.
Members of the public will not be allowed to yield or donate time to
other speakers. The Public Comment portion of the meeting will not
exceed 30 minutes at the Regular Meeting, nor will this portion exceed
thirty minutes at the Recess Meeting. Those who could not speak during
Public Comment will be allowed to speak first at a subsequent Board
meeting. For more information or to arrange a speaking date, contact the
Clerk’s Office. (CONDUCTED/READ INTO THE RECORD)

5 Speakers: Donna Renfro Lawson (Voting Rights); Sheila Hamilton


(Inmate COVID-19 Testing); Theodore Mikell (Fulton County Board of
Health Employees Transition); Darryl (Fulton County Board of Health
Employees Transition) and Ben Howard (Public Policy-on Boards &
Authorities Participation).

CLERK GRIER: “There are no presentations or proclamations this morning. Next item
on page 8, public hearings, 20-0790, public comment. Citizens wishing to participate in
public comment register online to join the public comment portion of the ZOOM call
[Inaudible] may submit public comment and by e-mail or by filling out the form located
on the county website www.fultoncountyGA.gov. Speakers will be granted up to two
minute each. The public will not be allowed to yield or donate time to other speakers.
The public comment portion of the meeting will not exceed 30 minutes."

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "Do we have any public comment this morning?"

MARCELLE ENGLISH, EXTERNAL AFFAIRS: "Good morning, I have four that were
submitted via e-mail. The first one is from Donna Renfro Lawson. Good morning --
God morning and peace be selected, elected, and rejected. Fulton County leadership
subordinate and those listening. Employee County Attorney Patrise Perkins Hooker
and the elective Fulton County Commissioners selected to reject responding to my
request for assistance with my voting rights. Therefore, I stand as one resident who did
not vote because of the lack of leadership and sensitive and out of control management
at minimum that expresses suppression, disenfranchisement, actions threatening --
threats and harassment. My question is why the evil? Attorney -- County Attorney
Hooker is in the legal profession. Does she not understand that she is accountable for

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her actions on behalf of the constituents of Fulton County? Are the commissioners blind
to what is going -- what she is doing to hurt or stop the progress of having their goals
met by hooking them into ferocious issues. Commissioner Arrington, one would think
you should know better and to dig deeper into the concerns that I have brought forth.
You and your staff have been e-mailed communication directly from me and to your
inbox. Where is the response? Your replies are awaited. This second comment is
from Daryl, a public care provider. Dear Commissioners: As a community-based health
care provider, I am requesting that the Board of Commissioners to honor and abide by
the original agreement of allowing Fulton County Board of Health employees to remain
Fulton County employees and not to transition these employees to the district board of
health. I am disheartened that these Fulton County health employees who are essential
workers and who have sacrificed and worked during this pandemic selfishly and with
risks to themselves and their family that just be reward to them is to dishonor the
commitment to have them remain as Fulton County employees. I am shocked and
dismayed and expect the Commissioners make ethical and just decision. Please follow
and abide by this agreement. Thank you. The third comment is from Sheila Hamilton of
College Park. A blessed morning to all commissioners. As a result of watching the
October 24, 2020 commission meeting and hearing the report from Dr. -- from Mr.
Adger representing the Fulton County Jail, I was elated that the commission mandated
that any detainee in the jail who requested a COVID-19 test be given the test. This was
after an advocate spoke who advised the Commission this was not happening.
Unfortunately, Commissioners, your request was not being respected nor fulfilled. I
spoke with my loved one who is at the Rice Street Jail on Thursday, October 22nd, after
the meeting advising him to the requested task. That Thursday, paperwork was turned
in to a white older stout nurse there at the jail. I will not use her name, but she can be
readily identified. My loved one asked that the test Friday, October 23rd, replied by the
nurse, "I do not have the paperwork for you." He again filled out the paperwork request
for the test given at that time. The older white, stout, short nurse speaking to my loved
one again advised to him to let the nurse know that the Fulton County Commission
advised Mr. Adger to let Dr. Paxton know that upon request, any detainee requesting
the COVID-19 test be given to -- be given. My loved one advised the nurse that he was
being scheduled for release in six days. On the sixth day of the release, still no COVID-
19 test from request October 22nd to release October 28th. If the staff does not want to
do her job and disrespect orders made by the governing body, she should be fired for
such a simple task where the money is there for the test. An unjailed citizen can get a
test generally in 24 to 48 hours. Additionally, upon my loved one's release, we were still
trying to get his test -- his contact lens that are in the hands of the young white nurse
and also a record of medications that were begun and high blood pressure and high
cholesterol while at the jail. Thanks, Commissioners, for the opportunity to speak and
thanks for your tireless work on behalf of the citizens of Fulton County. The final public
comment is from Theodore Mikell of Atlanta, Georgia as a long-term resident of Fulton
County and the voter in this community. "I am requesting that you preserve the Fulton -
- the public health delivery in the community. The vote to dishonor the agreement to
keep Fulton County Health employees as Fulton County employees will have an
adverse impact on our public health system. I am requesting you to honor the original
agreement to maintain the Fulton County Health employees moving the employees to

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the Stateside will cause mass leaving of dedicated professionals who have served this
community. During this pandemic, you and all of us depend on these heroes and now
will consider dishonoring the agreement and allow them to remain as Fulton County
employees. I have been following the meeting, and this issue has been hell.
Transitioning these employees will negatively impact the community, not increase
service delivery, disenfranchisement. Many of the employees with lower salary
adjustments and be detrimental to our public health future. This act will create
marginalization to our heroes who have been on the frontline of COVID testing, HIV and
TB prevention in our community. Respectfully honor that voted-upon agreement. There
is no true value to this employee transaction. This may only be a money grab at the
expense of our heroes." That was the final submitted public comment."

DARREN SMITH, IT DEPARTMENT: "We also have a public comment from Ben
Howard. If I can get it right, okay. You can see Mr. Howard. Mr. Howard, can you
unmute yourself?"

BEN HOWARD, PUBLIC SPEAKER: "Did that do it?"

DARREN SMITH, IT DEPARTMENT: "Yeah, we can hear you."

BEN HOWARD, PUBLIC SPEAKER: "Thank you. Greetings, Vice Chairman Arrington
and Commissioners. And greetings also to you citizens of Fulton County who are
watching and/or listening to your county government in action. Ben Howard, Senior
Advocate, Public Policy Analyst. Fulton County Board, Commissioners, and authorities
such as the Commission on elderly affair -- elderly affairs, also known as the
Commission on Elderly Affairs and the Commissioner on Disability Affairs and our Youth
Commission as well as organizations like the Council on Aging, the South Fulton Senior
Services need to know that you, [Inaudible]. One way you can show that you actually
do care is to ensure that the public is made aware of the virtual meetings for each of
these entities and let the public know that they, the public, have the right, the privilege,
and perhaps even the obligation to sit in on some of these meetings sometime. Civic
engagement works a whole lot better when those in authority help to promote it. With
your guidance and support, each of these entities as well as the other boards,
authorities, commissioners and organizations ought to be sending out information to the
citizens of this county as to when and how they meet, what they are discussing, and
how they are abiding by the requirements of the Georgia Open Meetings Act. Please
send them some help so they can help our citizens. I thank you."

CLERK GRIER: "No further speaker."

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "All right. We got no further speakers. I am going to
take a point of personal privilege to let our Board of Health employees know that the
Board of the Commissioners, in fact, denied the request by the Board of Health to
convert the employees and all Fulton County Board of Health employees will, at least at
this point, will be remaining Fulton County health employees. Our managers' meeting
with the Board of Health so that they hopefully can come up with a plan that will make

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sense and one that complies with the request of commissioners. Let's go to the next
item."

COUNTY MANAGER'S RENEWAL ITEMS

Open and Responsible Government

20-0791 Real Estate and Asset Management


Request approval to renew existing contracts - Department of Real Estate
and Asset Management, Bid#18ITB113816C-GS, Modular Workstations
and Free Standing Furniture Countywide in the total amount of
$1,200,000.00 with: (A) Office Creation (Norcross, GA) in the amount of
$500,000.00; (B) 5 Star Office Furniture, Inc./State Office Furniture, LLC a
Joint Venture (Avondale Estates, GA) in the amount of $500,000.00, and
(C) Beltmann Relocation (Stone Mountain, GA) in the amount of
$200,000.00, to provide all labor for breaking down and reconfigurations of
existing workstations and office relocation by requested user departments
on an “as needed” basis for Fulton County agencies. This action exercises
the second of two renewal options. No renewal option remains. Effective
dates: from January 1, 2021 through December 31, 2021. (HELD)

a. A motion was made by Commissioner Morris and seconded


by Commissioner Ellis to approve.

b. A substitute motion was made by Commissioner Hausmann


and seconded by Commissioner Hall to hold.

The motion passed by the following voice vote:

Yeas: 6 - Hausmann, Ellis, Morris, Hall, Arrington, Carn


Absent: 1 - Pitts

CLERK GRIER: "Continuing on page 8, County Managers' renewal items under open
and responsible government, 20-0791, Real Estate and Asset Management. Request
approval to renew existing contracts to provide all labor for breaking down and
reconfiguration of existing workstations and office relocation on an as-needed basis."

COMMISSIONER MORRIS: "Approval, Mr. Vice Chair."

COMMISSIONER ELLIS: "Second."

COMMISSIONER HAUSMANN: "I have a -- I have a question, please. Does this


include moving services or just -- what's included in this particular item?"

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VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "Do we have anyone on staff that can speak to this
item?"

ANNA ROACH, CHIEF OPERATING OFFICER: "We do, Mr. Chairman. Joe is here.
He is going to provide some additional information and answer Commissioner
Hausmann's question."

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "Thank you."

JOSEPH DAVIS, DIRECTOR, DREAM: "Good morning, Commissioners.


Commissioner Hausmann, to answer your question, while modular furniture services as
a major component of this contract, it does include relocation services as well. That we
made that a part of this many years ago so as to give us the greatest flexibility in the
event we had large moves."

COMMISSIONER HAUSMANN: "Okay. Thank you for that. So tell me in light of the
issue we had just this week with a moving company, is that in any way related to this
item?"

JOSEPH DAVIS, DIRECTOR, DREAM: "The issue does involve one of the companies
being recommended for renewal under this item. The company you're referencing has
been in contract for the county for several years. While they did perform work for us
over the weekend, we did have the incident as it relates to the delivery of voting
machines, but this particular renewal item obviously done well in advance of the
incident, but they do have a great track record prior to this incident."

COMMISSIONER HAUSMANN: "Okay, well I, you know -- this one is a big issue
publicly. It caused a lot of issues for us, as you know and then, you know, you were
instrumental in fixing all that and that's greatly appreciated, but I've concerns with
proceeding at this time with this particular company so shortly after a major issue
without some thorough discussion and review of what happened and what our
expectations are going forward. So, Mr. Vice Chairman, I would like for us to hold this
item in order to thoroughly vet this particular company with any --"

COMMISSIONER HALL: "Second."

COMMISSIONER HAUSMANN: "-- further use of their services."

COMMISSIONER HALL: "Second."

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "All right. Substitute motion to hold has been made
and seconded. Any discussion?"

COMMISSIONER ELLIS: "You know, perhaps Vice Chair Arrington?"

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "Yes, sir."

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COMMISSIONER ELLIS: "Perhaps it may make sense to even bifurcate this if we do
hold it and bring it back -- have that the component of and then question would be
separated out and voted on separately."

COMMISSIONER HAUSMANN: "Well is it time sensitive? Would two weeks make a


difference if it's a renewal? When would the renewal begin? The beginning of the
year?"

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "Yes, ma'am."

ANNA ROACH, CHIEF OPERATING OFFICER: "Yes. It begins January 1st,


Commissioner."

COMMISSIONER HAUSMANN: "Yeah, I would prefer, you know, not to undo it unless
it's absolutely necessary to undo it, but I want it reviewed first, please."

COMMISSIONER CARN: "Mr. Vice Chair, is there any way to pull out that one
particular company that dropped the ball and approve the rest, because I agree with
everyone else. I certainly would love to hear an explanation from them in terms of what
happened and I mean -- I don't know if I would be comfortable with using that kind of an
outfit again, you know, if they just canceled for no reason at all or if it was
miscommunication or whatever happened. So, could we just pull them out and approve
the others?"

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "I think we may want to get more input from staff. I
don't know the effect of pulling one out and approving others --"

COMMISSIONER CARN: "Okay. And I'm fine -- I'm fine with holding out the whole
thing."

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "Okay."

COMMISSIONER HALL: "Question. Did we not have any vendors from -- that are in
Fulton County that could do this work?"

JOSEPH DAVIS, DIRECTOR, DREAM: "I would have to defer to the Director of
Purchasing for that question to answer that."

FELICIA STRONG-WHITAKER, DIRECTOR, PCC: "Good morning, Commissioners,


this is Felicia Strong-Whitaker, Purchasing. Commissioner, this was a low bid and so
we have to award based on -- this is a lowest responsive and responsible price only
solicitation. So these were the low bidders at that time."

COMMISSIONER HALL: "Okay. So there were -- so there were no Fulton County


companies that bid on this?"

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FELICIA STRONG-WHITAKER, DIRECTOR, PCC: "Commissioner, I will have to get
back with you on this. This is the last renewal of this contract. This is the prior years. I
would have to go back and pull the original contract, the original source dissertation to
see how many bidders were received and if any were Fulton County bidders at that
time. So I'll --"

COMMISSIONER HALL: "Thank you."

FELICIA STRONG-WHITAKER, DIRECTOR, PCC: "I will have it when we bring this
item back."

COMMISSIONER HALL: "Thank you."

FELICIA STRONG-WHITAKER, DIRECTOR, PCC: "Sure."

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "All right. On the substitute motion to hold,
Commissioner Hausmann."

COMMISSIONER HAUSMANN: "Yes, I'd like to make a quick comment though. I'm
not trying to accuse this company of any wrongdoing or anything of that sort by this
motion to hold this item. There have been conflicting reports in the media on what
happened. I just think, before we move forward, we need to have a clear understanding
of -- of what exactly did happen and make sure that we're very clear on how we proceed
in the future. But I don't want to give the impression to the public that we made any
decisions or proclamation about this particular vendor. But so, motion to hold, is that
what you need from me or just a yes or no?"

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "I think we've already got the motion to hold that you
made. Commissioner Hall second this, but we just -- if there's no more discussion, then
we'll take your vote."

COMMISSIONER HAUSMANN: "Yeah, yes, is my vote."

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "Commissioner Ellis?"

COMMISSIONER ELLIS: "Yes."

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "Commissioner Morris?"

COMMISSIONER MORRIS: "Yes."

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "Commissioner Hall?"

COMMISSIONER HALL: "Yes."

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "I vote yes. Commissioner Carn?"

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COMMISSIONER CARN: "Yes."

CLERK GRIER: "And the motion passes six yeas, zero nays.

Health and Human Services

20-0792 Public Works


Request approval to renew an existing contract - Department of Public
Works, Bid#18ITBC115044A-YJ, Water Meter Vaults in the amount of
$200,000.00 with Bartow Precast, Inc. (Cartersville, GA), to provide water
meter vaults. This action exercises the second of two renewal options. No
renewal options remain. Effective dates: January 1, 2021 through
December 31, 2021. (APPROVED)

A motion was made by Commissioner Morris and seconded by


Commissioner Hall to approve.

The motion passed by the following voice vote:

Yeas: 5 - Hausmann, Ellis, Morris, Hall, Carn


Abstained: 1 - Arrington
Absent: 1 - Pitts

CLERK GRIER: “Bottom of page 8 under Health and Human Services, 20-0792, public
works. Request approval to renew an existing contract to provide water meter vaults."

COMMISSIONER MORRIS: "Move approval, Mr. Vice Chair."

COMMISSIONER HALL: "Second."

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "Any discussion? Hearing none, we'll go and have a
vote. Commissioner Hausmann?"

COMMISSIONER HAUSMANN: "Yes."

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "Commissioner Ellis."

COMMISSIONER ELLIS: "Yes."

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "Commissioner Morris."

COMMISSIONER MORRIS: "Yes."

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "Commissioner Hall."

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COMMISSIONER HALL: "Yes."

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "I abstain. Commissioner Carn."

COMMISSIONER CARN: "Yes."

CLERK GRIER: "And the motion passes five yeas, one abstention

20-0793 Public Works


Request approval to renew existing contracts - Department of Public Works,
Bid# 18ITB112052K-DB, Standby Miscellaneous Construction - Wastewater
System Services in the total award amount of $9,000,000.00 with: (A) Kemi
Construction Company, Inc. (Atlanta, GA) in an amount of $3,127,902.57;
(B) Sol Construction Company, LLC (Atlanta, GA) in an amount of
$3,030,006.53; and (C) Site Engineering, Inc. (Atlanta, GA) in an amount of
$2,842,090.90, to provide standby construction services in support of the
efforts to reduce the ongoing inflow and infiltration as required by Georgia
Environmental Protection Division. This action exercises the second of two
renewal options. No renewal options remain. Effective dates: January 1,
2021 through December 31, 2021. (APPROVED)

A motion was made by Commissioner Ellis and seconded by


Commissioner Hall to approve.

The motion passed by the following voice vote:

Yeas: 5 - Hausmann, Ellis, Morris, Hall, Arrington


Abstained: 1 - Carn
Absent: 1 - Pitts

CLERK GRIER: “On page 9, 20-0793, Public Works. Request approval to renew
existing contract to provide standby construction services in support of the efforts to
reduce the ongoing inflow and infiltration as required by Georgia Environmental
Protection Division."

COMMISSIONER ELLIS: "Move approval."

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "Is there a second?"

COMMISSIONER HALL: "Second."

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "All right. Any discussion? Hearing none, we'll have
a vote. Commissioner Hausmann."

COMMISSIONER HAUSMANN: "Yes."

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VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "Commissioner Ellis."

COMMISSIONER ELLIS: "Yes."

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "Commissioner Morris."

COMMISSIONER MORRIS: "Yes."

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "Commissioner Hall."

COMMISSIONER HALL: "Yes."

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "I vote yes. Commissioner Carn."

COMMISSIONER CARN: "Abstain."

CLERK GRIER: "And the motion passes, five yeas and one abstention.

COUNTY MANAGER'S ITEMS

Open and Responsible Government

20-0794 County Manager


Presentation of COVID-19 Operational Response Update.
(PRESENTED/APPROVED)

A motion was made by Vice-Chairman Arrington and seconded


by Commissioner Carn to accept the recommendation of staff to
continue to hold Board of Commissioners’ Meetings virtually
until Assembly Hall renovations are complete.

The motion passed by the following voice vote:

Yeas: 5 - Ellis, Morris, Hall, Arrington, Carn


Nays: 1 - Hausmann
Absent: 1 - Pitts

CLERK GRIER: “Added agenda item. Under open and responsible government, 20-
0794. Presentation of the COVID-19 operational response update."

DICK ANDERSON, COUNTY MANAGER: "Good morning, Mr. Vice Chair and
Commissioners. I think for this introduction, I could simply say elections, elections,
elections and as well as a huge sigh of relief. I think we were very pleased with the
results of the early voting period as well as the voting yesterday despite the challenges

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with finalizing the absentee votes, which we'll talk about later in that report. I do think
it's important to just note that setting new standards of excellence in Georgia with the
use of State Farm Arena as well as mobile voting and then the dramatic recovery efforts
after the COVID outbreak in the warehouse and the loss of a moving company
represent perhaps true clutch plays in delivering a great experience for our citizens.
And I would say as we did use Qualtrics to measure customer satisfaction with folks
coming out of the poles, I've never seen a more dramatic turnaround in 35 years of
management of customer satisfaction in that as we surveyed folks, 95 percent said they
were very satisfied and five percent said they were satisfied with their pole experience.
And again, I think that is just an enormous tribute to the team effort that went into this,
and I'll say just a little bit about that at the end of my remarks. The COVID trends that
you'll see today remain troubling, but stable in some respects. The average new cases
have doubled from a low point on a seven-day moving average to per-day new cases
being now 131 versus a low point of 64. And the positive test rate now when taking a
test is over five percent. Both of those are moving in the wrong direction. But most of
the country is facing these exact same trends. The continued desire to test and test at
a level of about 35,000 per week as well as having overall response continues to inform
our efforts and will inform our 2021 budget preparation as you'll see as well as the use
of the CARES funds that we have now expended 68.5 million of. We'll outline today a
series of steps that will be taken to successfully close out the use of that CARES fund
balance by end of year. We will also recommend staying in the current virtual Board of
Commissioners model and giving quite of bit details on that, given now a December
16th date when Assembly Hall will be complete and ready for occupancy. It doesn't
make much sense to take a half step into an environment which offers limited ability for
social distancing as well as limited ability for public and/or staff participation. And I think
from Dr. Paxton's perspective as well as senior staff, we recommend that you simply
delay another couple of meetings for a much better alternative when we move back into
Assembly Hall. I hope today that we can celebrate the elections experience and the
total team effort. I want to just call out a few folks personally. I want to applaud Rick
and his team's dedication to this task because in many cases, they were putting
themselves in harm's way as well as working extraordinary hours on behalf of citizens.
Also, I want to recognize what I call the gang of three, that's Bridget Bailey, Mike
Rowicki, and April Pye who really stepped up and assumed ownership of an overall
planning effort that we engaged post June. And in folks like Joe Davis, Glenn
Melendez, and Ellis Kirby were rock solid and, quite frankly, saved the day with their
midnight ride of Paul Revere in terms of equipment delivery on that final day. Dr.
Paxton and Dr. Holland, we wouldn't have thought of normally when we think of
elections that they truly helped avert a worse-case scenario in terms of the COVID
outbreak at the warehouse. Absent their involvement, I think that could have gone
much, much worse and would have resulted in a voter experience that none of us would
have been proud of. Jessica Corbitt did her usual masterful job of managing what is
really worldwide PR interest when it's Fulton County and really set new standards with
the delivery of our Fulton County vote tap and the voter media effort, which I think
helped push early voting to an all-time high and certainly relieved the pressure on
Election's Day. And then I would have to say there's another gang of three which is
Sharon, Anna, and Patrise. And they were there every step of the way both informing,

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supporting, and empowering our staff to do what I thought was just great, great work.
And then, of course, without your support approving an extraordinary amount of
resources, 34 million, which was double the original estimates when we entered this
season of elections, none of this would have been possible, and I would hasten to say
the use of that 34 million was greatly dependent upon Felicia Strong-Whitaker being
able to procure the goods and services and Ken Hermon and his team being able to
procure the people resources necessary, both internal and external. So I hope that you
can see that it was a complete and total team effort in the -- I think both the quantified
results, but also your observations lend credence to the fact that this again was a -- was
a tremendous success. However, at the same time, we know and have already begun
talking about how to use a similar process management approach that we did with the
property tax, appraisal process to look for improvements as well as pain points and
weaknesses probably with particular focus on the absentee ballot process which, of
course, now may be a new standard going forward as well as the intense logistical
challenges that are involved in supplying equipment across 255 locations. So we'll be
looking at that at the appropriate time as we get through the runoffs and support again
Rick Barron and his team moving forward. So today, we're going to move through
pretty rapidly, I think our normal updates, although you may have questions certainly
about the trends and specifically with Dr. Paxton's involvement in terms of the outlook.
We want to cover this board of -- excuse me, Board of Commissioner's location decision
and get -- get that done and then certainly get into the elections update. So Mr. Vice
Chair, we're ready to step through the presentation as we normally do with Chief
Operating Officer Anna Roach taking the lead."

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "Awesome, I think just before you begin, Madam
COO, a big round of applause to County Manager, elections teams, all of the gang of
three's and everyone that helped volunteer and helped make [Inaudible] a huge
success."

ALTON ADAMS, DEPUTY COO, PUBLIC SAFETY SVS: "Thank you, Mr. Vice Chair."

ANNA ROACH, CHIEF OPERATING OFFICER: "Thank you, Mr. Vice Chair. We
enjoy that. I think we're going to adopt that name, the gangs of three's. As the
manager stated, we are experiencing an increase in our positivity rate. I'm going to
hand it right over to Matt Kallmyer and his team to walk us through that. And again, this
week we do have the benefit of Dr. Paxton who's here not just with slides of her own but
to answer any questions. Matt."

MATTHEW KALLMYER, DIRECTOR, AFCEMA/ANIMAL CONTROL: "Good morning,


ma'am. Thank you so much. We'll go ahead and get this started. Doug Schuster is
going to start with an overview of our statistics, Doug?"

DOUG SCHUSTER, EMSI: "Next slide. All right. So good morning. I'd like to start off
with kind of a perspective slide and we get so focused on Fulton County. I'd like to start
in the bottom right with COVID in the world. As you can see, both hemispheres, both
north and southern hemispheres have significant COVID case rates. The difference

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from the last time I showed you this two weeks ago is that Europe countries have gotten
darker orange, and there's some new orange in South America. And per perspective,
the United States case rate, we were two weeks ago 30th in the world on case rate and
we're 34th this week. Actually, the opposite. We were 34th two weeks ago, 30th this
week. So more intensity in COVID is unchecked around the world. If you look in the
top right, not much change but more intensity. Generally, the Midwest and the northern
Midwest have darker red or more case spread. There is a new hot spot on the I-25
corridor between Colorado and Nebraska that they're watching for a new hotspot. And
then if you move to Georgia, it's mostly the same as two weeks ago. As you can see,
Fulton County is a lighter orange, and it will bear that out in the numbers I'm about to
present, but there are some new along the border with Alabama, the darker counties
that you see have changed since the last time we talked. So the border between
Georgia and Alabama has gotten more intense with cases per 100,000.
Next slide. Okay. We'd like to talk about cases now. Since September 30th, our
seven-day average for cases has gone from 64 to 131. It is trending upward, that as
you see in the -- in the -- it's the top Fulton County cases. You look at the chart on the
right. It's been kind of an up and down but a gradual increase in cases that we've seen
over the last six weeks. The seven-day average for percent positive tests has
increased from a low of 3.4 on the 19th to actually 5.2 as of yesterday. Once again,
kind of slow increase but 5.0 is the metric which the World Health Organization and
most epidemiologists agree that it is uncontrollable spread at that point and makes it
harder to do contact tracing. So we've been hovering around five percent for ten days.
We're at 5.2 as of yesterday. And then the caseload has exhibited a plateau for almost
three weeks now of 8.8 of Fulton County's percent of the state's total. Even attempts
makes a great big difference, and so the fact that we're maintaining 8.8 percent of the
state's total with ten percent of the state's population is very important. One thing I do
want to point out, if you look at the very bottom right-hand corner, the United States is
pushing close to a seven-day average of 80,000 cases. And this weekend surpassed
the summer high for a seven-day average for cases. Next slide. So this is comparative
chart of deaths with Fulton County, Georgia, the United States. We have been on quite
a long plateau somewhere between 0.5 to two deaths per day in Fulton County, and
that's exhibited in the chart on the right. Actually, had a drop in the overnights to 1.28
percent deaths per day average. And then Georgia has seen a sharp, not a sharp, but
an incline/decline in deaths per day, as you see in the middle chart. And then the
United States really has been at a plateau with a slight rise if you look in the bottom
right-hand corner in deaths per day. The thing from the top part of this slide that I really
want to bring attention to is we continue to see a slow, but steady drop in Fulton
County's percent of the state's deaths, and we're down to 7.83 at this time. And I
believe actually we're at 7.78 as of yesterday. So that is pretty significant. Each 100
represents two deaths per week. So that's pretty, pretty significant. Next slide. On this
slide, I'm going to talk about hospitalizations. As you can see in the graph on the
bottom left, the very sharp incline this summer to a 600 patient high happened very
quickly, a little bit slower decline to where we bottom out about a month ago. The trend
has gone from 164 to 208. We've seen a gradual increase in hospitalizations over the
last six weeks; like I said, from 164 to 208, and you can see it graphically on the bottom
left. The one thing I want to point out is two weeks ago, I told you the seven-day

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average of non-COVID patients was 300 more than it was observed this summer during
the peak. That's actually gone up. We were seeing a continual increase in non-COVID
patients, and we're averaging 350 more than we saw this summer, and that's
represented in the blue bars on the right-hand side, which those non-COVID patients
has really made us tight on general beds within Fulton County, which you see
represented in the red at the top. I've told you before that we're generally red during the
week when elective type surgeries are going on. And then on the weekends, when they
discharge, we tend to be in a better position. And you can kind of see that wave action
on the bottom right. Next slide. As you can see on the top, I've got plateau arrows.
There has been a very, very slow increase since we've talked two weeks ago. But over
the last four or five days, we have hovered right around four percent within the
hospitals, right around five percent or just over within Fulton County on the percent
positives, and the state has hovered around 7.3 percent for about the last five days. I
believe Dr. Paxton is going to talk about the significance of being over five percent a
little bit later. And you can see the chart on the right that shows kind of graphically the
plateau and then the rise over the last couple weeks, so a very slow rise compared to
what happened in June. Next slide. I think this really kind of depicts the hospitalization
picture a little better. If you look at the black bar graph and you see the high of 600 on
June 20th about, and then the steady decline in cases through the end of September
and then a kind of slow gradual rise that you see to today. The new projection came
out. The projected high now is 472 beds on 8 January, and we're laying right on top of
that most probable line, and it's the same picture for critical care beds and ventilator use
right about the peak about the same time, first week in January. Next slide. And lastly,
what I want to point out here on the modeling for death projections through the end of
January. As you see that the green, the orange, and the red lines are now getting
closer together every time we see updates. And we are now trending once again just
below the green line, which is projected 847 deaths by the end of January. I just want
to point out one more time that, you know, by us having less than eight percent of the
state's death total, if we were at 11.5 percent like we did for three months early on, we
would have been at 922 deaths on Monday, which is almost 300 lives that have been
affected in the good direction. So I think it's a pretty -- I'd like to continue to track these
metrics and we will continue to do that going forward. Next slide."

MATTHEW KALLMYER, DIRECTOR, AFCEMA/ANIMAL CONTROL: "Thank you,


Doug. As we always do, I'd like to make sure that everyone's aware of our cumulative
testing numbers. We do have two additional days of that, and I'd be able to share with
you today. So the total that you'll see for the orange bars will actually read 875,282.
We're getting closer to our one million mark of individuals that we test. We think that
we'll be there based upon current projections in the middle of December, so we'll
continue to go in that trend. Yesterday, on Election Day, we still did see about 5,686
individuals at our different testing sites. So we're grateful that people took advantage of
us. And you'll see the breakdown along the bottom. The core contact tracing, Dr.
Paxton can go ahead and discuss a little bit more. One of the services they offer is
additional testing for individuals that are either in isolation or quarantine. And that's
something that has been working out quite well under Dr. Paxton's over -- purview and
her team's oversight of that program. So we commend them for that. Next slide,

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please. A new slide I would like to show you all is just looking over the weeks of our
response thus far, what our cumulative tests have been for each week in SPOC testing.
There is an anomaly on week seven, just so we draw everyone's attention to that.
That's when hospital data started to be reported. To just go ahead and keep it fair, we
applied it all to that particular week. We did smooth it onto some subsequent graphs,
but just to make sure everyone's aware, that is why that day has that high, excuse me,
numbers on it. When you look at the rest of it, if you look at week 15 through week 33,
the average there is about 34,000 tests that we have done each week. So I have a
couple of peaks, but we've been pretty much stabilized in the mid 30,000 range for tests
that we have actually accomplished per week in our jurisdiction. Next slide, please.
Finally, just giving you a snapshot of where we look. Once again, 875,000 compared to
our other jurisdictions that you see at the top. It still puts us just shy of 25 percent of the
state's total testing. And once again, folks, just reminding everyone that there is that
ability to go ahead and get tested and get your results within a 48-hour period. We're
continuing to have good capacity at our hospitals, and our testing labs, and we can
return those results around in a timely fashion. Two other things to draw attention to.
Dr. Paxton has been able to go ahead and procure a large sum of masks. We worked
closely with her team and we delivered about 250,000 masks to early voting and
election day sites. So what happens when people were getting their sticker, we've
actually got to give them a Board of Health mask to go ahead and be a part of the
Mask-On campaign. So we were very grateful that we were able to work with Dr.
Paxton on that initiative. I saw a lot of individuals posting their peach yesterday on
social media, also wearing a Board of Health mask, so I think that is a very positive
program that was able to be very successful for everyone yesterday. Two other things I
just wanted to go ahead and say is that there's a lot of silent sentinels that work on
election day. We do consequence management in our team. I have partners in the
police department with Fulton County Police underneath the direction of Interim Chief
Yates that are the crisis management folks, things you guys don't know about, but there
have been incredible amount of work that has happened behind the scenes to make
sure that election day went off without a hitch and it was safe for all individuals that went
out there. So I commend Chief Yates and his team for making sure that we have the
law enforcement support necessary to be successful. I commend my team for the
consequence side as well as our municipalities that work very closely with us to make
sure that we were ready to go ahead and respond to anything yesterday. As always,
our emergency operations center was open. The election command process is run out
of here. And I want to give a special thanks to Donny Reese, for the last two months
has built a custom process for elections to be able to go ahead and have that common
operational picture and situation awareness along with an ap that allows him to go
ahead and see what the polling sites are looking like, be able to manage the logistics
and research requests and something that I can assure you the secretary of state's
office was blown away when they were able to see how much we have done to that
end. So I commend our team for doing an incredible job, and I definitely commend
Fulton County Police for what they did to make sure that we're successful. I'll then pass
this over to Dr. Paxton for her comments."

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DR. LYNN PAXTON, DIRECTOR, FC BOH: "While I'll wait for the slide to come up.
Can you all hear me?"

ANNA ROACH, CHIEF OPERATING OFFICER: "Yes, Dr. Paxton, we can hear you."

DR. LYNN PAXTON, DIRECTOR, FC BOH: "Great, thanks. Well I just have some
very brief updates that we threw this together yesterday. I just wanted to let you know,
whenever we hit these, we follow closely the test positivity rate, because that is a trigger
for a number of activities that go on. So now that our community's percent positivity rate
has gone about the five percent trigger, we had moving -- we're moving into the phase II
precautions for our long-term care facilities. I will show you on the next slide what those
actual phases are in case you’re interested -- but also -- but essentially what that means
is that it's a stepped-up routine testing. And it -- it just determines what sort of what
things that we do with them. And for any long-term care facilities that have had one or
more cases among their staff or residents, then we move them back into phase I
precautions until that facility goes 14 days without any additional cases. Now in addition
to that, the Board of Health continues to work with the Fulton County and Atlanta public
schools, as I described last meeting. Tomorrow we'll be participating in the Fulton
County Schools executive task force meeting on Thursday. We always go over with
them all of the epi data and help them with their mitigation plans and the likes. So we'll
be having a meeting with them tomorrow to discuss what to do now that we've passed
this trigger point. The third thing to bring up is that one of the things, we've doing a lot
of initiatives at the SPOCs to try to improve all of our COVID response. And one thing
that I just want -- would mention today is that at our central SPOC, we have been doing
a pilot of asking for information from people who come for testing about their contacts
and asking them to write that down with the hope that, you know, if any of these people
turn out positive, that it would make the ability to do contact tracing that much better.
And so that pilot is going very well today. In the beginning, people didn't want -- didn't
want to really give us their names, but we've been given names of contacts, but we also
have refined the way we ask and now we're up to the point where we're getting about
65 to 70 percent of the clients that are actually giving us names of their contacts. And
so, if we find this actually leads to an increase in case contacts that we can actually
reach, then we’re gonna roll this out to all of our oldest SPOCs. Can I have the next
slide, please? Now this is just simply for those of you who are interested. This is for the
long-term care facilities. This shows what those different phases are that I alluded to.
And so, as I've mentioned, where all of the long-term care facilities are, we're moving
them into the phase II, which requires a change in their baseline testing, the frequency
of the baseline testing. And then for any facilities that have had any COVID tests
beyond the routine stuff that we do without being able [Inaudible] and all that, we will
move them actually into the phase I designation and act accordingly. So those are just -
- just some -- a few of the highlights that I had to bring up today about the Board of
Health. So thanks very much."

ANNA ROACH, CHIEF OPERATING OFFICER: "Okay. Thank you, Dr. Paxton. Mr.
Vice Chair, we're ready to take questions of the Board if you are ready at this time."

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COMMISSIONER HALL: "I have a question. This is Commissioner Hall."

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "Go ahead, Commissioner Hall."

COMMISSIONER HALL: "So first the presentation, thank you for them. It's unfortunate
that we continue to see these spikes in the numbers of COVID-19 cases. I am glad to
see that the death rate is not rising along with these spikes in the COVID-19 numbers.
But I did hear -- I think it was Matt -- I'm sorry?"

MATTHEW KALLMYER, DIRECTOR, AFCEMA/ANIMAL CONTROL: "I'm sorry,


ma'am, please go ahead."

COMMISSIONER HALL: "But I thought I heard Matt say during his presentation that
these numbers show an uncontrollable spread, which makes it hard to do contact
tracing; is that correct?"

MATTHEW KALLMYER, DIRECTOR, AFCEMA/ANIMAL CONTROL: "Doug, would


you like to go ahead and clarify that statement?

DOUG SCHUSTER, EMSI: "Yeah. For clarification, the World Health Organization
and most epidemiologists agree that anytime that we're over five percent positives on
cases, that it makes it harder to do contact tracing and the -- it's uncontrollable not -- it's
around the world. But five percent is generally the number for viable contact tracing.
Dr. Paxton might have more to add."

DR. LYNN PAXTON, DIRECTOR, FC BOH: "Well as of -- you know, I -- that is the
designation, I believe, from WHO. Practically speaking here at Fulton County, we are
able to keep up with this right now. We do have a number of contact tracers. In
addition, we have the program that we're doing with CORE for the boots-on-the-ground
contact tracing. So we are able to keep up with it as of now, of course. As has been
brought to everyone's attention, we are expecting, I think it's been referred to as a world
of hurt, to come in the coming months as we get into the winter. So we are currently
able to handle it and we are keeping our fingers on the pulse of this and just hoping for
the best.”

COMMISSIONER HALL: "Okay. So you said currently we are able to keep up with it
when, or should I say what percentage would put us at risk of not being able to keep up
with it?"

DR. LYNN PAXTON, DIRECTOR, FC BOH: "I can't give you a percentage. I mean I
can think back to what I consider the bad days that we had right after the Fourth of July
holiday when we were getting like upward to sometimes surpassing 300 cases a day.
And that was hard. And we were having a very -- a lot of difficulty keeping up with that
at the time. You know, we're now -- we've learned from that. We have a few more
contact tracers. We have CORE, but we're also still in the game about half that number
now. So as I said, we are just -- we're monitoring it right now. But I can't tell you what

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percent positively will -- you know, some pushes, you know, will be pushing us really
hard. It's more the numbers that come in every day.”

COMMISSIONER HALL: "Okay. Thank you. And just in lieu of everything that we've
heard on this -- the first part of this COVID-19 update, Madam County Attorney, I'd like
to revisit the vote that we did from the last BOC meeting where it was presented to us
that the Board of Commissioners should start coming back into the building and having
our meetings face-to-face in the confines of the building. And I'd like to ask if they're -- if
I can please rescind my vote on that, because with the -- everything that I'm reading in
the news and then the fact that this past weekend a very close friend of mine mother
just passed away suddenly from COVID-19. She had no major symptoms or anything.
She just got out the shower, got dressed, and fell to the floor and was dead from
COVID-19. I think that we need to take -- we need to continue to take precautions to
keep everyone safe, and I mean everyone, ourselves, employees, as well. Everyone
has to go home to their families, and that incident alone and these numbers are putting
me at the caution. You know, it's creating caution. So is there -- is there something that
I need to do in order to rescind my vote from the last board meeting?"

PATRISE PERKINS-HOOKER, COUNTY ATTORNEY: "Commissioner Hall, there's no


way to rescind your vote from a meeting -- I mean from a vote from a matter that was
taken from a previous meeting. However, there will be a discussion point. The County
Manager has told me that in his recommendations on how to proceed and that is the
recommendation from the staff and maybe approval of that recommendation is the way
to accomplish your objective."

COMMISSIONER HALL: "Yes. Thank you so much."

PATRISE PERKINS-HOOKER, COUNTY ATTORNEY: "You're welcome."

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "Are there anymore questions from any other
commissioners?"

COMMISSIONER CARN: "I have one, that we touched a little bit on the elections. Are
we going to hear from elections in another presentation as well?"

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "Yes. We did add a specific election item."

COMMISSIONER CARN: "Okay. I'll wait. I'll wait for that item to come up."

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "You may need someone from staff to communicate
to them that they do have an item, specific item on the agenda so that they can have
someone available."

ANNA ROACH, CHIEF OPERATING OFFICER: "They are trying to get them a
message, Mr. Vice Chair."

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VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "Thank you."

COMMISSIONER HAUSMANN: "Can I ask a question, please?"

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "Yes, go right ahead, and then I have a question
afterwards."

COMMISSIONER HAUSMANN: "Thank you. I thought that there was going to be


some elections related update in this presentation. Are we just holding all of that at this
point that there's nothing COVID related that y'all were going to update us on?"

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "I mean I think the manager opened up with his
elections."

COMMISSIONER HAUSMANN: "Okay. All right. Well we need to pick a time so that
they -- y'all know they're very busy today trying to get everything finalized so there's a
way to select a time to put that on the agenda, I think that would be helpful for them and
for us."

ANNA ROACH, CHIEF OPERATING OFFICER: "And Mr. Vice Chairman, if I can jump
in, it may be helpful as the Board is considering when to schedule that time for elections
that we put it for after executive session and our lunch break given the fact that Rick is
actually not at 141 at this time. He is at the warehouse. This would give him some time
to wrap that up and get here."

COMMISSIONER HAUSMANN: "That would be fine with me."

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "Yes. I think that will be great. I think everyone will
want to hear from him. Matt, I do have a question. You spoke about the million test
mark. Is that one million tests or is that one million individuals?"

MATTHEW KALLMYER, DIRECTOR, AFCEMA/ANIMAL CONTROL: "That would be


one million tests, sir. It would not be one million individuals because, of course, some
individuals do take more than one test, sir."

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "Okay. Okay. Do we have any way -- do we keep up
with the people that take more than one test? Do we know if someone's taking it 100
times or ten times?"

MATTHEW KALLMYER, DIRECTOR, AFCEMA/ANIMAL CONTROL: "I would not


have that data, sir, that it would be considered protected under the health care privacy
laws. Dr. Paxton's team would have access to that data, sir."

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "Okay. Okay. So I mean, I just -- I don't need access
to the data. I just wanted to make sure someone was tracking it."

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MATTHEW KALLMYER, DIRECTOR, AFCEMA/ANIMAL CONTROL: "Yeah, that is
not one of the points that we do track, sir. We can see if Dr. Paxton's team is tracking
that. If she's on the line still, she can go ahead and chime in, but that is not one of the
points that we're tracking at this time, sir."

DR. LYNN PAXTON, DIRECTOR, FC BOH: "Yeah, I'm still on the line. Every -- we do
get the point -- we do have -- we are able to match tests with, you know, with names,
but it's not something that we track per se, you know, to see how many people have
come back for multiple tests."

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "Okay. And is there -- is there a pattern to when, you
know, or suggested recommendations as to how many times or how often someone
might -- should be tested?"

DR. LYNN PAXTON, DIRECTOR, FC BOH: "No. There's no -- there's no specific


recommendation because it's all very -- it's all very dependent on what the person's
exposure might have been. So we encourage people to get a test anytime that they feel
that they might have been in contact with someone or whatever. So we don't -- we don't
have -- we don't publish, you know, these are the times you need to get tested or you
need to come in a certain number of times per month to -- or year to get tested. No it's -
- it's all really very dependent on each individual's risk."

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "Okay.. Thank you. Commissioners, any more
questions, discussion? All right. Hearing none, I guess we'll move to the next item."

ANNA ROACH, CHIEF OPERATING OFFICER: "Thank you, Mr. Vice Chairman. So
the next section of the COVID update is the reopening plan." I won't spend a lot of time
on slide 19. I think that between Matt Kallmyer's team and the Board of Health we have
sufficiently demonstrated -- next slide, please -- demonstrated why we have
downgraded our positive on the number of cases from green to yellow. We are still on
track on our other two gating criteria, but we do believe that the -- the trajectory in the
number of positive cases within a 14-day period warrants a yellow indicator. Next slide.
The main thing I'd like to draw your attention to on this page, Commissioners, is the
continued focus on elections as well as the limited grand jury services that will begin
either next week or the following week consistent with the Superior Court's plans. They
do plan to prioritize jail cases and are planning for significant safety measures including
using courtrooms on the first floor of the Justice Center so there is not a need for the
use of elevators, social distancing, and other CDC protocols will be adhered to, and
more significantly, the chief judge plans to and has been quite liberal with requests from
jurors to be excused from services while, and so again, they will be starting two limited
grand jury panels in the coming weeks, and I believe that the superior court is planning
for limited jury trials at the top of 2021. Next slide. On a biweekly basis,
Commissioners, we do provide you an update on new positive cases among our
employees. Since the last time you received this report, we have had, as you can see
on the screen, eight new cases across the departments that are listed here. There were
two in the superior court, and the rest of the departments had one positive infection, one

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positive case. Next slide. Those positives bring our cumulative total of employee
positives, since we've been tracking this information, to 140 employees within our work
force. Next slide. The cleanings by department have been updated consistent with the
positive cases that require cleaning. Again, the predominance of our cleanings are
appearing in the enhanced janitorial space, and I believe that within the tax
commissioner's office, there was a need for an enhanced barrier cleaning as requested.
Next slide. Commissioner Hall, this section of the presentation is related to your
request from your previous question. We wanted to provide an update on the
construction and renovation of our assembly hall space, which I'm happy to report is
going very well. As you can recall, this is a project that we started earlier this spring and
is a part of our FCURA bond investment for the improvement of our downtown
properties, and it is on schedule to complete before the December 16th meeting. As an
aside, as you're also aware, we plan to upgrade our -- from the use of our SIRE system
to a new agenda management system, Granicus. That is also going very well, and we
are training employees as we speak on this new system. While if we are in person on
December 16th, Granicus may or may not be ready, I do want to make the Board aware
that that system implementation is going well in conjunction with IT as well as DREAM,
and that we hope to use our new system as soon as training is complete and everyone,
including the Board of Commissioners, feels comfortable with switching over to the new
system. Next slide. That said, at the last meeting, the Board asked us to come back
with recommendations for meeting in person for those two meetings that would remain
in between now and when Assembly Hall would be ready for in-person meetings. We
did explore alternatives, and the one located on the third floor, which is the new
communications boardroom space or meeting room space is the one we thought might
meet the needs if we were -- if we were pursuing the option to do that. I'd like to begin
my remarks by saying we did go over this option with the Board of Health and, overall, it
is not recommended by the Board of Health that the Board go back to in-person
meetings for a number of reasons, which we'll go through. But if we were going to do
that, or if we were directed to do so by the Board, there are some safety measures that
were recommended and in they're in the third bullet on there. So that was the first point
I'd like to make with respect to the recommendation of the Board of Health. The second
is that the meeting would be in person for commissioners, but still be largely virtual
since the public would not be entering the room and directors who were presenting
items or otherwise required to be present would not be in person either. It would also
be virtual. And so this would achieve a very limited in-person meeting in that the
commissioners would be here, but virtually all other participants would be, be virtual.
And again, if we are directed by the Board to pursue it, we would implement the five
recommendations that are there by the Board of Health to minimize the possibility of
infection but, of course, we wouldn't be able to guarantee that it would completely
eliminate that possibility. Next slide. We also wanted to provide a view of what the
citizens' room setup would be again the public comment section or citizens who wish to
view the meeting would not be allowed in the first space, so we would set up a second
space on the -- in the HR training room. We would have to, and this is an important
point, Commissioners. We would have to limit the number of citizens that we allow in
to between 15 and 18. . And so when we hit that number, we would be turning any
constituent who comes in person to the announced meeting away. In that room for

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constituents, we would set up a screen and again, they would participate in a semi-
virtual way to interact with the Board. The speakers -- the podium for public comment
would be there as well as the screen to project what was going on within the board
meeting. Again, the Board of Health strongly encourages that we participate in virtual
meetings until we have a larger space that could accommodate the board meeting. But
again, if we were -- if we were directed to pursue it, the following safety measures
outlined in the last bullet is what we would put in place for constituents who are
participating in person. Next slide. So the pros of moving to the third floor space would
be that it would need the Board of Commissioners' desire to meet in person, but as you
can see, Commissioners, there are several cons to that notion that we've outlined there
including safety concerns with the duration of the meeting. We are typically going for
several hours and then so the length of time for the exposure is a particular concern to
the Board of Health. The meeting for staff and citizens is still virtual. So it's not a full in-
person, wouldn't achieve full in-person meetings. We're also concerned that it would be
perceived negatively from a citizen's perspective and also has the potential to expose
citizens who would be encouraged to come and attend, attend in person. Last slide.
The final slide, Commissioners, provides the recommendation of staff. Given the fact
that we are only talking about two meetings before a larger space that could
accommodate even more CDC recommendations for safety will be available. Our
recommendation is that we would continue virtual meetings as we have been doing until
that space is available and resume in-person meeting in consultation with the Board of
Health at such time as when Assembly Hall -- a much larger space with much more
accommodations would be ready. So Commissioner Hall, I believe this is where the
County Attorney suggested that if the Board wanted to reverse its decision to go in
person, we could entertain a motion to do so based on this recommendation. That
concludes my summary, Mr. Vice Chair, and I am available for questions if the Board
has any on these sections."

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "So moved to accept the recommendations of staff to
have the meetings remain virtual until such time that the larger space is available to
accommodate more CDC requirements. But I do have a question. Has the Board of
Health been in consultation with the Chief Judge and the judges? Did they make
recommendations, similar recommendations to them?"

DR. LYNN PAXTON, DIRECTOR, FC BOH: "Yes, we have. Dr. Swancutt is our official
liaison to the judiciary, and he's been over there many times to go over the setups. He
just recorded a PSA for them as well to be for the jurors when they come back. So yes,
we do have, to answer your question, we do have a liaison with the judiciary."

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "Okay, thank you."

COMMISSIONER HAUSMANN: "Can I follow up on that, please?"

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "Yes, please go right ahead, Commissioner


Hausmann."

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COMMISSIONER HAUSMANN: "So you do have -- you are working with them. What
are your recommendations?"

DR. LYNN PAXTON, DIRECTOR, FC BOH: "You know what, I don't have them right
up in front of me right now. I don't know. I think that for the moment, they're still
remaining closed, but what I can do is I can look them up and I can have them, we
could send them to you."

COMMISSIONER HAUSMANN: "So, but they are getting ready to start working in
person, correct?"

DR. LYNN PAXTON, DIRECTOR, FC BOH: "I am not sure, because that has been
going -- as far as I know it's been going back and forth depending on what the -- as our
rates are going up. So I would have to confirm that with Dr. Swancutt to find out exactly
what they're thinking at this moment."

COMMISSIONER HAUSMANN: "Did you also consult with the school systems on their
-- you know, we've got one school system that's doing in-person instruction and one that
is delayed until January. Can you just speak to us about any involvement you've had
with them as they develop their plans for instruction?"

DR. LYNN PAXTON, DIRECTOR, FC BOH: "Yes. As I've mentioned, I think last time
we've had very extensive involvement. We have literally been meeting with both Fulton
County Schools and the Atlanta Public Schools for months. We have an established
task force with them. And so I think they meet weekly. And then tomorrow, as I
mentioned in my update today, I'll actually be on this call tomorrow with the executive
task force for Fulton County Schools because they are quite concerned with the uptick
in cases and so they have requested a special meeting and so we'll be taking part with
that on that with them tomorrow."

COMMISSIONER HAUSMANN: "So are they reconsidering or thinking about making


alterations to their current plan."

DR. LYNN PAXTON, DIRECTOR, FC BOH: "I presume so, but I'll know more
tomorrow."

COMMISSIONER HAUSMANN: "What do you attribute or can you attribute the uptick
to any event or conditions or what do y'all think is going on here at the moment?"

DR. LYNN PAXTON, DIRECTOR, FC BOH: "Well, you know, I think a lot of it is, as I
think I've mentioned on a couple of calls before, is that this is some of the natural history
of a respiratory virus as you go into -- as you go into the fall season. So we also know
that, although we've been making strides with getting masks out and hopefully more
people wearing them. We still have a lot of people who are not, you know, wearing
them. We still have a lot of people who are attending super-spreader events. We still
have a lot of people who are going to places where they're unable to, you know,

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maintain social distancing. And I think -- and we anticipate there will be more of that as
we -- as, you know, as the weather gets colder and the like and as we do open up more
things like, for example, in other districts where the entire school system has opened
up, we have seen more cases. Some of the colleges here in Fulton -- in the Fulton
County area are now also revisiting their plans; and as I understand, some are
considering closing after Thanksgiving. So I mean it's all very much in flux right now.
And so I think that it's -- the next couple of weeks people are going to be -- these
various entities will having -- will be making some hard decisions and so they -- we try to
help him. We don't tell -- I just want to make it very clear. It's not the Board of Health
that determines what any school does or wouldn’t. So it's just that we just offer data
and we offer consultation."

COMMISSIONER HAUSMANN: "Well, you offer recommendations. You know, you


can't make someone take your recommendation as we all know, but you do offer
recommendations, so that's really where I was, you know, going with this. I mean I still
personally feel like that, you know, we're asking thousands of employees to come to
work every day to serve the citizens of Fulton County and I think the message for us as
a board to not meet, you know, twice a month as a group sends a conflicting message.
I recognize things are changing, I recognize that the will of the Board may not agree
with my thoughts on this. But that's still my position. I still think if schools are open we
should have our libraries open. The community continues to ask for that, but you know,
I’m one vote, that I do want to just state for the many, many citizens that have inquired
and asked me, especially about our libraries that, you know, I think we're ready to at
least have partial service in a host of areas. And so we're just working on it. That's
what I would say. We're continuing to work on that. Thank you."

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "Thank you. I know we do have drive-up service
available in some of our libraries. Any other comments, discussions from any
commissioners?"

PATRISE PERKINS-HOOKER, COUNTY ATTORNEY: "Vice Chairman?"

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "Yes, ma'am."

PATRISE PERKINS-HOOKER, COUNTY ATTORNEY: "You don't have a second on


the motion."

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "Is there a second on the motion?"

COMMISSIONER CARN: "I’ll second it."

COMMISSIONER HALL: "Can you repeat the motion?"

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "The motion was to adopt the recommendation of
staff to not to return to in-person meetings until such time that the modifications that

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have been made to the room and when there could be -- there will be more room for the
public and to follow the CDC guidelines."

COMMISSIONER HAUSMANN: "And that was for the December 16th meeting,
correct?"

ANNA ROACH, CHIEF OPERATING OFFICER: "Yes, ma'am."

COMMISSIONER HALL: "Thank you."

COMMISSIONER ELLIS: "Mr. Vice Chair?"

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "Yes, yes. Commissioner Ellis."

COMMISSIONER ELLIS: "Just a comment, not necessarily only about the meeting
stuff, but where are we -- I thought we were going to hear a little bit more about potential
options for certain aspects of library reopening."

ANNA ROACH, CHIEF OPERATING OFFICER: "So Commissioners, I'm not sure if
you want to dispose of the motion, and then I can definitely answer the questions about
libraries."

COMMISSIONER ELLIS: "Why don't we do that. We can dispose of the motion then."

ANNA ROACH, CHIEF OPERATING OFFICER: "Okay."

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "Okay. Anymore comments, questions, discussion.


Okay, well, Commissioner Hausmann, we have a vote then. Commissioner
Hausmann."

COMMISSIONER HAUSMANN: "No."

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "Commissioner Ellis."

COMMISSIONER ELLIS: "Yes."

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "Commissioner Morris."

COMMISSIONER MORRIS: "Yes."

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "Commissioner Hall."

COMMISSIONER HALL: "Yes."

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "I vote yes. Commissioner Carn."

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COMMISSIONER CARN: "Yes."

CLERK GRIER: "And the motion passes five yeas, one nay."

ANNA ROACH, CHIEF OPERATING OFFICER: "Okay. And Mr. Vice Chair, if it's okay
with you I'll answer Commissioner Ellis' question now?"

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "Yes, please. Go right ahead."

ANNA ROACH, CHIEF OPERATING OFFICER: "On the matter of the libraries,
Commissioner Ellis, I was just -- I actually just reached out to the director, Gayle
Holloman, to see if I could get some statistics about how many librarians participated in
this last election and how many are anticipated to participate in early voting. And just
for everyone's awareness, I believe we only have about a week and a half before early
voting starts again, assuming we have a runoff, and many of those locations are likely to
be located within our libraries. So again, we have not presented a plan and we have no
plan today to present for the reopening of libraries because we believe that there will be
continued use of the libraries as well as use of library employees to support our ongoing
efforts with respect to the elections. And again, we do believe that our posture on
libraries is consistent with what is happening regionally, what is happening nationally
with library systems of our size. And I think the last point I would make on that is that
particularly given the rise in the number of cases and the uncertainty about where we
are going with the virus, we continue to feel comfortable with curbside service being our
primary way that we deliver library service."

COMMISSIONER ELLIS: "Well, I got the impression at the last meeting that we were
going to come back and have more of a detailed conversation around that. So that was
a misunderstanding and I apologize. But the -- that was the impression that I was left
with, you know, they had -- and I would continue to encourage discussion around that. I
recognize that we're utilizing them as sites for elections and stuff, but, you know, to
have them as being just reserved for election sites, I don't know that that's necessarily
in all our citizens' best interest. But I just hope that we would look at reconsidering
some aspects of that whether they were even just opportunities for designated groups
to come in, children, you know, et cetera. On some level of capacity, I just would have
encouraged us to continue to look at that and not just take the posture that because
we're using the libraries for early voting that we can't utilize them for anything else, so."

COMMISSIONER HAUSMANN: "Mr. Vice Chair, I have a comment when you're done,
Mr. Ellis."

COMMISSIONER ELLIS: "I'm done, Commissioner Hausmann."

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "Go ahead, Commissioner Hausmann."

COMMISSIONER HAUSMANN: "I agree with that. I think that we've proven --
because we have conducted elections that we can operate safely and interact with the

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public. We've historically held elections in libraries when they were opened. And I
know COVID has changed a lot of our natural operations, but we managed to do that
before. And then I'll just say that as if someone that went around and checked a lot of
precincts during the voting process, we did a really good job with poll workers. I don't
know that we necessarily need to rely on our library staff to do the bulk of that. We had
so many poll workers in the precinct, so yesterday a lot of times at the ones I visited, we
had more poll workers than we had voters. So, you know, we've got an engaged public
now that's willing to help us probably do it again. I don't think we'll have the turnout, for
one thing, that we had for the presidential race. So I think that there's a way that we
can do a hybrid as Commissioner Ellis has suggested and phase in the reopening of
some of our libraries to prepare for a major opening. And I continue to ask that you
please consider that, please plan for that, and let's see how we can serve the public
once again in a deeper way with our library services because they've asked for it over
and over again."

COMMISSIONER CARN: "Vice Chair, I had a comment."

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "Okay, go right ahead, Commissioner Carn."

COMMISSIONER CARN: "I too toured over a dozen polling sites myself and Chairman
Pitts as well. And I think we did a very good job on election day, the librarians, us. The
library staff definitely helped supplement all of the precincts. The turnout, you know,
obviously was not as high as expected. So things went very smoothly. However, in
terms of opening up these libraries, you know, you want to -- you know, you want to do
things slow and right, not fast and wrong. We are in the middle of a spike, and this is,
according to Dr. Paxton, a record spike here we're talking about. So one of the things,
Anna, if you could ask our library, I guess, director, what's going on? You know, we
serve Fulton County in terms of libraries of 15 cities and Atlanta being a major city.
What's going on in the other major cities in the United States? You know, is the Los
Angeles County library system open or closed, for instance? And our Apple to Apples
comparable. It's like Mecklenburg County and so on and so forth. Are they open or
closed? Are they partially open? I'd like to get a list of what's going on around us and
in comparable counties and cities in terms of policy. Who else is open if -- you know.
And that doesn't necessarily mean that if they're open that we should be open."

ANNA ROACH, CHIEF OPERATING OFFICER: "So, Commissioner --"

COMMISSIONER CARN: "So I'd like to get some information on that. If someone get
that to all of us, I think that would great to look at. But I'm not supporting opening right
now unless I hear from the library board, and they're saying they can do it in a safe
manner, which I haven't -- unless we hear that, I'd like to get -- I'd like to hear from the
experts."

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "I also would like to know where do we have the
drive-thru libraries right now? How many locations do we have that -- because, you
know, maybe middle ground is expanding the number of drive-thru locations."

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ANNA ROACH, CHIEF OPERATING OFFICER: "So thank you for that question, Vice
Chairman Arrington. We have all of our locations providing curbside service at this
time. We expanded our hours for curbside service in, I believe that was the beginning
of October or late September. And so all of the libraries have curbside service."

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "All right. So I guess it will be good to know, you
know, what are the numbers looking like on that curbside service? Obviously, it's better
if people can go in and access the computers and the actual books that are there, but
I'd also like to see, you know, what the numbers are looking like as far as the number of
people that are currently being serviced and all the libraries being curbside servers."

ANNA ROACH, CHIEF OPERATING OFFICER: "Mr. Vice Chair, we will provide that
number on the -- on the service rates for curbside service and Commissioner Carn will
also provide the report on what systems across the nation, as well as our neighbors,
have been doing. We have been looking at that system. I believe that you and the
board will find that it's a very mixed bag, and library systems are making adjustments
based on what is going on their community? But again, we do feel like we are not out of
line in our decision to remain a primary curb -- primarily a curbside service system. But
I will provide all the information that is requested."

COMMISSIONER CARN: "Vice Chair, one last thing. This is about discussing libraries,
and I'm glad we're discussing this because I have gotten a call or two about the libraries
and what's happening. There are a lot of residents that are not aware that the drive-thru
library system is available. Anna, the one thing I would additionally suggest that we do
is perhaps, when I recommended that election's video, in terms of the steps, in terms of
the options to vote, I think that was a big help in terms of early voting and made people
feel a lot more comfortable. I think a simple two-minute video explaining to folks that
the libraries are open that you can drive through and check out a book just like your
drive-thru at McDonalds. But the simple steps of reserving a book and when to drive up
to pick up that book. If you can drive up, if you can walk up, and you can ride a bicycle
up. A simple video explaining how it works, what you have to do that any citizen can do
again is understandable. People are used -- people are familiar with our libraries, but
they're used to dealing with them in one way only. A lot of times new things are kind of
hard to digest unless you have some simple instructions for them, in terms of how to
reserve that book. So I think the library department may want to consider that, so I think
the library --"

ANNA ROACH, CHIEF OPERATING OFFICER: "Yes."

COMMISSIONER CARN: "-- department may want to consider that, so we could get
that out to our constituents and let them know, hey, the libraries are open. I mean they
drive by them and they may look closed to them. So and the few people that go on the
Fulton library website are far fewer than even bother to go on our official website. So
there may not be a lot of awareness out there about it."

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ANNA ROACH, CHIEF OPERATING OFFICER: "And that's a fair point,
Commissioner. Actually, I do believe that Jessica's team created a video on how to
access curbside service. I will confirm that with her, and you made a good point. When
I provide the information that was requested, I’ll also provide lengths so that we can
leverage all of the commissioners' constituents faces on how to access curbside
services as well. But I'll check with Jessica, but I believe we already do have video."

COMMISSIONER CARN: "Well, if they made the video, I sure would like to get it so I
could get it out to my folks. That'd be great."

ANNA ROACH, CHIEF OPERATING OFFICER: "We'll provide that, sir."

COMMISSIONER CARN: "All right."

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "All right. Is there a next -- are we on the next item or
is there a next portion of this presentation?"

ANNA ROACH, CHIEF OPERATING OFFICER: "The next portion of the presentation,
Mr. Vice Chair is the CARES Fund update."

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "Thank you."

SHARON WHITMORE, CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER: "Good morning,


Commissioners. Sharon Whitmore, Chief Financial Officer. So we do have our
standard update report for you today. As the manager indicated in his opening remarks,
as of last Friday, we have expended a total of 68.4 million of the 104 million in CARES
funds that have been made available to the County. And we currently still maintain a
$1.6 million unallocated second-wave reserve. Next slide, please. In providing you with
the update on changes from the last reporting cycle, from a budgetary perspective on
the left-hand side of this slide, you'll see that we allocated 200,000 out of the second-
wave reserve into operational stability. That allocation was primarily to support some
additional incremental costs in our allocation to election support. About an additional
400,000 was needed in that category. We also provided some additional funding for
childcare for employees who are required to report to work while their children are
potentially still in a virtual learning environment. So those were the primary changes on
the budget and the commitment side. We also did reduce our commitment and
purchase order obligation under some of our cleaning contracts by about 300,000. Next
slide, please. This slide is the list of open purchase orders that we currently have. On
the right-hand side at the bottom of the -- at the bottom of the screen, you'll see the
totals. Currently, we have total open purchase orders of 37.5 million. We've made
payments of 16.5 against those open purchase orders. We have completely closed out,
issued and closed out 8.1 million in purchase orders. And year to date, we’ve issued a
total of 45.6 million in purchase orders and paid out a total of 24.6 against those PO's.
Of note, still within the purchase orders that have been issued, the largest purchase
order, of course, is with Bakotic Pathology Associates for the lab services related to our
testing sites that we have. We currently have an open PO with them of 5.4 million. And

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we have expended 3.1 million against that PO. Other large POs of note, Dominion
Voting System, this was a purchase order for additional equipment, the ballot marking
devices, scanners, poll pads, and such, and we have received the invoice for those and
should be processing that invoice this week. That was about $2 million. We should be
closing that out in the very near future. The other large items over on the right-hand
side of screen, we still have our $4.5 million encumbrance with Goodwill Industries. We
are seeing invoices come in on that. We've actually paid out a little less than 500,000
against that. At this point, we do not expect that we will fully utilize those funds and will
be looking to reallocate those for another purpose sometime in the month of November.
The next large item is the contract that we have with CORE. It's a $3 million purchase
order of which we've paid out 1.5 million and we received another invoice. So we are
making payment on that particular contract and expect that we will have that one fully
paid out by the end of the year. Those were the highlights on the details for the
purchase orders. Next slide, please. This slide is the view of our placeholders, what we
call our placeholders, commitments and then the other payments that have been made
outside of the purchase order process. On the left-hand of the screen under
placeholders, you see the amount for placeholders is 5.5 million. The largest
components of that relate to the balance available for us to acquire PPE of 1.6 million.
We have recently, in fact, identified another supplier for gloves and will be reducing that
placeholder this week, as a matter of fact, putting that order in with the vendor. And
then the next largest item in that category is the balance remaining with the Board of
Health for the execution of the testing plan about 3.4 million. They have recently
submitted a request for some additional temporary support -- temporary staffing support
for the specimen collection sites. And so that balance should be coming down as well
as we fulfill those orders on their behalf. In the commitment section, the two largest
items outstanding in the commitment section is the balance that we have for our
municipal relief program. That balance sits now at 3.8 million. And an additional 1.4
million is still remaining for the community relief package that the Board has approved.
This is the final amount that will be expended, and this is primarily still related to the
payments for the artist program that the Board approved in the second community relief
fund. On the right-hand side of this screen, you'll see the total payments, wires and
other disbursements now sits at 47 -- I mean 43.7 million. The largest component of
that is now the 21.1 million that has been paid out to our municipalities as they have
submitted their reimbursement request for funds that they have expended. Of note, in
that particular area is, and you'll see it on -- on a later slide is that most of the cities
have now been fully reimbursed for any cost that they have submitted to the finance
department. The total amount that we've paid between the wires and disbursements
listed here as well as the payments against purchase orders on the previous slide totals
the 68.4 million identified on the summary slide at the beginning. Next page, please.
The community relief package update, you'll see on this slide that we've allocated a total
of 21.8 million. We have expended 15.2 of that. The two components of that that
remain unexpended are in the job training area and in the second pass of the small
business assistance, which is what I've been calling the artist program. Next slide,
please. This slide provides you the information by city of the cities that have been fully
paid out, their CARES allocation. We will have -- we are doing weekly payments for
those cities that submit reimbursement requests, 3.8 remaining. The largest component

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of that rests with the city of Johns Creek at 2.3 million and the other cities all have much
smaller balances remaining. And they're continuing to submit their requests for
reimbursement against these balances. On this slide, of the 21 million that's been
reimbursed, about 20 million of that actually related to reimbursement of personnel-
related costs. Next slide, please. In the manager's opening remarks, he also
mentioned that we would share with you our closeout plans, if you will, for the CARES
fund. And so that's what the information on this slide is providing. We will begin the
final push to secure invoices for all of the items that we have purchase orders
outstanding on as well as continue. Felicia and her team will continue to work with all of
the vendors to ensure that all of the goods and services that we are looking for will be
delivered. As we're doing that process, we'll be doing that pretty much all of the month
of November. Next week, we intend to finalize a review, an internal review with the
County Attorney and the human resource department of all of our own public safety,
payroll-related costs that would be CARES eligible that we could use to offset any of the
current allocation that may not be expended. And then starting the middle of the month
running really from the middle of November through the middle of December, we will
begin de-obligating any purchase orders that we become aware of that will not be
fulfilled or have been fulfilled and there is some, you know, small residual that remains.
We will start de-obligating those PO's and reprograming those funds against our own
public safety payroll-related costs. And then the last two weeks of the year, we will be
working again mostly internally making sure that we have met all of the accounting and
financial reporting requirements associated with the CARES Act funds so that when we
roll into December 31st, we will have finalized our spend against the $104 million that
we've been provided. And with that, I'll take any questions that you may have on the
update."

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "I'll start out with -- it's not a really question for you,
Sharon, but the CORE updates, how frequently are we getting those and how many,
you know, people have they served -- and I don't necessarily need the answer now, but
if someone could just forward it."

SHARON WHITMORE, CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER: "Yes. Vice Chairman


Arrington, Matt Kallmyer would probably be the best person to answer that question.
I'm not sure if he's still on the call, but we'll coordinate with him to get an update
specifically on their activities for the Board."

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "Okay, thank you. Any other questions,
Commissioners? Hearing none, is there a next question of this section, of this item?"

COMMISSIONER HAUSMANN: "What was the elections?"

ANNA ROACH, CHIEF OPERATING OFFICER: "Just the election section, so we are
going to eliminate that section in lieu -- in light of the item that was added to agenda."

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "Okay. I know you said there was a report, so I guess
we'll just review that report at that time."

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ANNA ROACH, CHIEF OPERATING OFFICER: "Yes. I'll go check with Jessica, but it
will be presented when Rick is present."

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "Okay, perfect. All right. Are there any action item?"

ANNA ROACH, CHIEF OPERATING OFFICER: "Not for this report, Commissioner."

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "Okay. All right. Next item, please."

20-0795 County Manager


Request ratification of emergency procurement – County Manager,
Countywide Emergency Procurements. (APPROVED)

A motion was made by Commissioner Ellis and seconded by


Commissioner Morris to approve.

The motion passed by the following voice vote:

Yeas: 6 - Hausmann, Ellis, Morris, Hall, Arrington, Carn


Absent: 1 - Pitts

CLERK GRIER: "Continuing on page 9. 20-0795, County Manager requests


ratification of county-wide emergency procurement."

COMMISSIONER ELLIS: "Move approval."

COMMISSIONER MORRIS: "Second."

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "For purposes of the public, can we just have -- you
know, run through with the items are on total amounts?" [external noise]. Is that
someone answering the question? Or if not, we need everyone to mute while you're not
speaking."

FELICIA STRONG-WHITAKER, DIRECTOR, PCC: "Commissioner, Vice Chair, this is


Felicia Strong-Whitaker. For the emergency procurement related to COVID, it was
$169,201.82. For the emergency purchases related to registration and election, it was
$1,685,744.23. The total emergency total was $1,854,946.05."

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "All right. It's been properly moved and seconded.
Any discussion or questions? All right, Commissioner Hausmann?"

COMMISSIONER HAUSMANN: "Yes."

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "Commissioner Ellis."

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COMMISSIONER ELLIS: "Yes."

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "Commissioner Morris."

COMMISSIONER MORRIS: "Yes."

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "Commissioner Hall."

COMMISSIONER HALL: "Yes."

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "I vote yes. Commissioner Carn."

COMMISSIONER CARN: "Yes."

CLERK GRIER: "And the motion passes six yeas, zero nays.

20-0796 Real Estate and Asset Management


Request approval to award a contract without competition – Department of
Real Estate and Asset Management, #20SS127131C-MH, Countywide
Postage Services in the amount of $1,220,000.00 with the United States
Postal Services (Atlanta, GA), to provide postage services for countywide
agencies. Effective dates: January 1, 2021 through December 31, 2021.
(APPROVED)

A motion was made by Commissioner Morris and seconded by


Vice-Chairman Arrington to approve.

The motion passed by the following voice vote:

Yeas: 6 - Hausmann, Ellis, Morris, Hall, Arrington, Carn


Absent: 1 - Pitts

CLERK GRIER: “20-0796, Real Estate and Asset Management. Request approval to
award a contract without competition to provide postage services for county-wide
agencies."

COMMISSIONER MORRIS: "Move approval."

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "Second."

COMMISSIONER ELLIS: "Second."

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "Commissioner Hausmann."

COMMISSIONER HAUSMANN: "Yes."

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VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "Commissioner Ellis."

COMMISSIONER ELLIS: "Yes."

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "Commissioner Morris."

COMMISSIONER MORRIS: "Yes."

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "Commissioner Hall."


COMMISSIONER HALL: "Yes."

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "I vote yes. Commissioner Carn."

COMMISSIONER CARN: "Yes."

CLERK GRIER: "And the motion passes six yeas, zero nays.

20-0797 Real Estate and Asset Management


Request approval of recommended proposals - Department of Real Estate
and Asset Management, RFP# 20RFP124968K-DB, Standby Professional
Services for Mechanical, Electrical, Plumbing and Fire Protection in the total
amount of $1,500,000 with: (A) Engineering Design Technologies, Inc.
(Atlanta, GA) in the amount of $375,000; (B) Wood Environmental &
Infrastructure Solutions, Inc. (Atlanta, GA) in the amount of $375,000; (C)
S. L. King & Associates (Atlanta, GA) in the amount of $375,000; and (D)
KHAFRA Engineering Consultants, Inc. (Atlanta, GA) in the amount of
$375,000; to provide standby professional services for facilities related
design, engineering and assessments in the areas of mechanical, electrical,
plumbing and fire protection on an “as needed-task assignment” basis.
Effective dates: January 1, 2021, through December 31, 2021, with two
renewal options. (APPROVED)

A motion was made by Commissioner Ellis and seconded by


Commissioner Morris to approve.

The motion passed by the following voice vote:

Yeas: 6 - Hausmann, Ellis, Morris, Hall, Arrington, Carn


Absent: 1 - Pitts

CLERK GRIER: “On page 10, 20-0797 Real Estate and Asset Management. Request
approval of recommended proposals to provide standby professional services for
facilities related to design, engineering in areas of mechanical, electrical, plumbing, and
fire protection on an as-needed basis."

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COMMISSIONER ELLIS: "Move approval."

COMMISSIONER MORRIS: "Second."

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "All right. Is there any discussion or any questions
regarding this item? All right, Commissioner Hausmann."

COMMISSIONER HAUSMANN: "Yes."

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "Commissioner Ellis."

COMMISSIONER ELLIS: "Yes."

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "Commissioner Morris."

COMMISSIONER MORRIS: "Yes."

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "Commissioner Hall."

COMMISSIONER HALL: "Yes."

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "I vote yes. Commissioner Carn."

COMMISSIONER CARN: "Yes."

CLERK GRIER: "And the motion passes six yeas, zero nays.”

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20-0798 Real Estate and Asset Management
Request approval of the lowest responsible bidder - Department of Real
Estate and Asset Management, Bid# 20ITB125925C-CG, Septic Tank and
Grease Trap Maintenance Services Countywide in the amount of
$45,000.00 with Darling Ingredients, Inc.- Dar Pro Solutions (Atlanta, GA),
to provide septic tank and grease trap maintenance services on an “as
needed” basis for Fulton County. Effective dates: January 1, 2021 through
December 31, 2021, with two renewal options. (APPROVED)

A motion was made by Commissioner Morris and seconded by


Commissioner Hausmann to approve.

The motion passed by the following voice vote:

Yeas: 6 - Hausmann, Ellis, Morris, Hall, Arrington, Carn


Absent: 1 - Pitts

CLERK GRIER: “20-0798, Real Estate and Asset Management. Request approval of
the lowest responsible bidder to provide septic tank and grease trap maintenance
services."

COMMISSIONER MORRIS: "Move approval."

COMMISSIONER HAUSMANN: "Second."

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "All right. Properly moved and seconded. Any
questions or discussion? Commissioner Hausmann."

COMMISSIONER HAUSMANN: "Yes."

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "Commissioner Ellis."

COMMISSIONER ELLIS: "Yes."

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "Commissioner Morris."

COMMISSIONER MORRIS: "Yes."

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "Commissioner Hall."

COMMISSIONER HALL: "Yes."

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "I vote yes. Commissioner Carn."

COMMISSIONER CARN: "Yes."

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CLERK GRIER: "And the motion passes six yeas, zero nays.”

20-0799 Real Estate and Asset Management


Request approval of the lowest responsible bidders - Department of Real
Estate and Asset Management, Bid# 20ITB125598C-GS, HVAC On Call
Maintenance Services Countywide in the amount of $1,200,000, with: (A)
Mechanical Services, Inc. (Hapeville, GA) in the amount of $300,000; (B)
Trane U.S., Inc. (Atlanta, GA) in the amount of $300,000; (C) Johnson
Controls, Inc. (Roswell, GA) in the amount of $300,000; and (D) Daikin
Applied Americas, Inc. (Marietta, GA) in the amount of $300,000, to provide
standby on-site HVAC on call maintenance services of air conditioning
systems on an “as needed” basis for all Fulton County facilities. Effective
dates: January 1, 2021 through December 31, 2021, with two renewal
options. (APPROVED)

A motion was made by Commissioner Hall and seconded by


Commissioner Morris to approve.

The motion passed by the following voice vote:

Yeas: 6 - Hausmann, Ellis, Morris, Hall, Arrington, Carn


Absent: 1 - Pitts

CLERK GRIER: “20-0799, Real Estate and Asset Management. Request approval of
the lowest responsible bidders to provide standby on site HVAC On Call Maintenance
Services air conditioning system."
COMMISSIONER HALL: "Move approval."

COMMISSIONER MORRIS: "Second."

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "Properly moved and second. Any discussion or
questions? If not, let's vote. Commissioner Hausmann."

COMMISSIONER HAUSMANN: "Yes."

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "Commissioner Ellis."

COMMISSIONER ELLIS: "Yes."

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "Commissioner Morris."

COMMISSIONER MORRIS: "Yes."

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "Commissioner Hall."

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COMMISSIONER HALL: "Yes."

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "I vote yes. Commissioner Carn."

COMMISSIONER CARN: "Yes."

CLERK GRIER: "And the motion passes six yeas, zero nays.”

20-0800 Real Estate and Asset Management


Request approval of a recommended proposal - Department of Real Estate
and Asset Management, RFP# 20RFP123434K-BKJ, Standby Landscape
Design and Installation Countywide, in the amount of $300,000.00 with Ed
Castro Landscape, Inc. (Roswell, GA), to provide professional landscape
design, maintenance, and installation of landscaping and maintenance of
irrigation systems for Countywide facilities on an “as needed” basis.
Effective dates: January 1, 2021, through December 31, 2021, with two
renewal options. (APPROVED)

A motion was made by Commissioner Hausmann and seconded


by Commissioner Ellis to approve.

The motion passed by the following voice vote:

Yeas: 6 - Hausmann, Ellis, Morris, Hall, Arrington, Carn


Absent: 1 - Pitts

CLERK GRIER: “On page 11, 20-0800, Real Estate and Assessment Management.
Request approval of the recommended proposal to provide professional landscape,
design, maintenance, irrigation systems for county-wide facilities."

COMMISSIONER HAUSMANN: "Move approval."

COMMISSIONER ELLIS: "Second."

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "Properly moved and second. Any questions or
discussions? If not, let's vote. Commissioner Hausmann."

COMMISSIONER HAUSMANN: "Yes."

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "Commissioner Ellis."

COMMISSIONER ELLIS: "Yes."

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "Commissioner Morris."

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COMMISSIONER MORRIS: "Yes."

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "Commissioner Hall."

COMMISSIONER HALL: "Yes."

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "I vote yes. Commissioner Carn."

COMMISSIONER CARN: "Yes."

CLERK GRIER: "And the motion passes six yeas, zero nays.”

20-0801 Real Estate and Asset Management


Request approval of the lowest responsible bidder - Department of Real
Estate and Asset Management, Bid# 20ITB126179K-JAJ, Atrium Painting
for Fulton County Government Center in the amount of $199,961 with
Benise-Dowling & Associates, Inc. (Decatur, GA), to provide prepping,
painting, cleaning and refinishing existing areas in the Fulton County
Government Center Atrium located at 141 Pryor Street, Atlanta Georgia
30303. Effective for a period of 120 calendar days upon issuance of the
Notice to Proceed. (APPROVED)

A motion was made by Commissioner Hall and seconded by


Commissioner Ellis to approve.

The motion passed by the following voice vote:

Yeas: 6 - Hausmann, Ellis, Morris, Hall, Arrington, Carn


Absent: 1 - Pitts

CLERK GRIER: “20-0801, Real Estate and Asset Management. Request approval of
the lowest responsible bidder to provide prepping, painting, cleaning, and refinishing
existing areas in Fulton County Government Center Atrium."

COMMISSIONER HALL: "Move approval."

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "Is there a second?"

COMMISSIONER CARN: "Second."

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "All right. Commissioner Morris, did you have a
discussion?"

COMMISSIONER MORRIS: "No, I was moving approval while Commissioner Hall was
moving approval, that's all."

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VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "All right. Sorry, I had a call. Commissioner
Hausmann."

COMMISSIONER HAUSMANN: "Yes."

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "Commissioner Ellis."

COMMISSIONER ELLIS: "Yes."

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "Commissioner Morris."

COMMISSIONER MORRIS: "Yes."

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "Commissioner Hall."

COMMISSIONER HALL: "Yes."

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "I vote yes. Commissioner Carn."

COMMISSIONER CARN: "Yes."

CLERK GRIER: "And the motion passes six yeas, zero nays.”

Justice and Safety

20-0802 Police
Request approval of the lowest responsible bidder – Police Department, Bid
#20ITB126459B-YJ, Automobile Repair Services in the amount of
$75,000.00 with Moon’s Service Center (Mableton, GA) to provide
automobile repair services for the police fleet. Effective January 1, 2020
through December 31, 2021 with two renewal options. (APPROVED)

A motion was made by Commissioner Morris and seconded by


Commissioner Ellis to approve.

The motion passed by the following voice vote:

Yeas: 6 - Hausmann, Ellis, Morris, Hall, Arrington, Carn


Absent: 1 - Pitts

CLERK GRIER: “Under justice and safety, 20-0802, police request approval of the
lowest responsible bidder to provide automobile repair services for the police fleet."

COMMISSIONER MORRIS: "Move approval."

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COMMISSIONER ELLIS: "Second."

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "Properly moved and seconded. Any discussion?"

COMMISSIONER HAUSMANN: "What was that item number, please?"

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "0802, police."

COMMISSIONER HAUSMANN: "Thank you."

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "All right, we'll have the vote. Commissioner
Hausmann."

COMMISSIONER HAUSMANN: "Yes."

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "Commissioner Ellis."

COMMISSIONER ELLIS: "Yes."

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "Commissioner Morris."

COMMISSIONER MORRIS: "Yes."

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "Commissioner Hall."

COMMISSIONER HALL: "Yes."

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "I vote yes. Commissioner Carn."

COMMISSIONER CARN: "Yes."

CLERK GRIER: "And the motion passes six yeas, zero nays.”

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Health and Human Services

20-0803 Public Works


Request approval of a Cooperative Purchasing contract - Department of
Public Works, Sourcewell Contract No. 122017-SCA (formerly known as
NJPA), Sewer Vacuum, Hydro-Excavation and Street Sweeper Equipment
with related Accessories and Supplies in the amount of $64,559.63 with Jet-
Vac Equipment Company, authorized dealer for Sewer Equipment
Company of America (Atlanta, GA), to purchase one (1) Sewer Equipment
JAJ-600WH Work Horse Easement Machine. This is a one-time
procurement. (APPROVED)

A motion was made by Commissioner Hall and seconded by


Commissioner Morris to approve.

The motion passed by the following voice vote:

Yeas: 6 - Hausmann, Ellis, Morris, Hall, Arrington, Carn


Absent: 1 - Pitts

CLERK GRIER: “Under health and human services, 20-0803, Public Works. Request
approval of a cooperative purchasing contract for sewer equipment."

COMMISSIONER HALL: "Move approval."

COMMISSIONER MORRIS: "Second."

COMMISSIONER HAUSMANN: "Second."

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "All right. Properly moved and seconded. Any
discussion? Here and now we'll have a vote. Commissioner Hausmann."

COMMISSIONER HAUSMANN: "Yes."

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "Commissioner Ellis."

COMMISSIONER ELLIS: "Yes."

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "Commissioner Morris."

COMMISSIONER MORRIS: "Yes."

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "Commissioner Hall."

COMMISSIONER HALL: "Yes."

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VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "I vote yes. Commissioner Carn."

COMMISSIONER CARN: "Yes."

CLERK GRIER: "And the motion passes six yeas, zero nays.”

20-0804 Public Works


Request approval of a Cooperative Purchasing contract - Department of
Public Works, Houston-Galveston Area Council of Governments (H-GAC)
Contract No. SC01-18, Sewer Cleaning, Hydro-Excavating, Inspection
Equipment & Miscellaneous Service in the amount of $55,897.00 with Aries
Industries, Inc. (Waukesha, WI), to purchase one (1) Aries Mobile
Pathfinder All-in-One Controller Inspection System. This is a one-time
procurement. (APPROVED)

A motion was made by Commissioner Hausmann and seconded


by Commissioner Morris to approve.

The motion passed by the following voice vote:

Yeas: 6 - Hausmann, Ellis, Morris, Hall, Arrington, Carn


Absent: 1 - Pitts

CLERK GRIER: “On page 12, 20-0804, Public Works. Request approval of a
cooperative purchasing contract to purchase one Aries Mobile Pathfinder all-in-one
controller inspection systems."

COMMISSIONER HAUSMANN: "Move approval."

COMMISSIONER MORRIS: "Second."

COMMISSIONER HALL: "Second."

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "Properly moved and seconded. Any discussion? If
not, we'll vote. Commissioner Hausmann."

COMMISSIONER HAUSMANN: "Yes."

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "Commissioner Ellis."

COMMISSIONER ELLIS: "Yes."

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "Commissioner Morris."

COMMISSIONER MORRIS: "Yes."

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VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "Commissioner Hall."

COMMISSIONER HALL: "Yes."

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "I vote yes. Commissioner Carn."

COMMISSIONER CARN: "Yes."

CLERK GRIER: "And the motion passes six yeas, zero nays.”

20-0805 Public Works


Request approval of the lowest responsible bidder - Department of Public
Works, Bid# 20ITBC072920A-FB, Mechanical and Flanged Fittings for
Ductile Iron Pipes and Discount to Catalog Items not listed in the amount of
$35,330.15 with Fortiline, Inc. dba Fortiline Waterworks (Suwanee, GA), to
provide mechanical and flanged fittings for ductile iron pipes and discount to
catalog items not listed. Effective upon execution of contract through
December 31, 2020 with two renewal options. (APPROVED)

A motion was made by Commissioner Morris and seconded by


Commissioner Hall to approve.

The motion passed by the following voice vote:

Yeas: 6 - Hausmann, Ellis, Morris, Hall, Arrington, Carn


Absent: 1 - Pitts

CLERK GRIER: “20-0805. Public Works. Request approval of the lowest responsible
bidder to provide mechanical and flanged fittings for ductile iron pipes and discount to
catalog items not listed."

COMMISSIONER MORRIS: "Move approval."

COMMISSIONER HALL: "Move approval."

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "All right. Properly moved and seconded. Let's vote.
Commissioner Hausmann."

COMMISSIONER HAUSMANN: "Yes."

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "Commissioner Ellis."

COMMISSIONER ELLIS: "Yes."

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "Commissioner Morris."

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COMMISSIONER MORRIS: "Yes."

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "Commissioner Hausmann."

COMMISSIONER HALL: "Commissioner Hall, yes."

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "I'm sorry. Commissioner Hall."

COMMISSIONER HAUSMANN: "I don’t think they'll let me vote twice, but thank you."

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "I vote yes. Commissioner Carn."

COMMISSIONER CARN: "Yes."

CLERK GRIER: "And the motion passes six yeas, zero nays.”

20-0806 Senior Services


Request approval to increase spending authority – Department of Senior
Services, RFP# 17RFP109210A-FB –Comprehensive Nutrition Care in the
amount not to exceed $445,335.35 with Open Hand Atlanta (Atlanta, GA),
to provide congregate and home delivered meals, meal delivery, nutrition
education and nutrition counseling for Fulton County residents aged 60 and
above. Effective upon BOC approval. (APPROVED)

A motion was made by Commissioner Hall and seconded by


Commissioner Carn to approve.

The motion passed by the following voice vote:

Yeas: 6 - Hausmann, Ellis, Morris, Hall, Arrington, Carn


Did not vote: 1 - Pitts

CLERK GRIER: “20-0806. Senior Services. Request approval to increase spending


authority to provide congregate and home-delivered meals, meal delivery, nutrition
education, and nutrition counseling for Fulton County residents age 60 and above."

COMMISSIONER HALL: "Move approval."

COMMISSIONER CARN: "Second."

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "All right. Properly moved and seconded. Any
discussion? If not, let's vote. Commissioner Hausmann."

COMMISSIONER HAUSMANN: "Yes."

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VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "Commissioner Ellis."

COMMISSIONER ELLIS: "Yes."

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "Commissioner Morris."

COMMISSIONER MORRIS: "Yes."

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "Commissioner Hall."

COMMISSIONER HALL: "Yes."

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "I vote yes. Commissioner Carn."

COMMISSIONER CARN: "Yes."

CLERK GRIER: "And the motion passes six yeas, zero nays.”

Infrastructure and Economic Development

20-0807 Public Works


Request approval of the lowest responsible bidder - Department of Public
Works, Bid# 20ITB126597K-JAJ, Airfield Lighting & Rehabilitation at Fulton
County Executive Airport at Charlie Brown Field in the amount of
$983,014.00 with Precision Approach, LLC, (Eatonton, GA), to provide
Airfield Lighting and Signage Rehabilitation Runway 8/26 and Taxiway
India. Effective upon Issuance of Notice of Proceed for a contract period of
sixty (60) calendar days. (REMOVED)

ITEM REMOVED FROM THE REGULAR MEETING AGENDA AS


REQUESTED BY THE COUNTY MANAGER

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20-0808 Public Works
Request approval to accept a Local Maintenance and Improvement Grant
(LMIG) from the Georgia Department of Transportation (GDOT) in the
amount of $67,914.28 and submit the required application to GDOT to be
used as part of the 2021 resurfacing program within the Fulton Industrial
District. (APPROVED)

A motion was made by Commissioner Carn and seconded by


Commissioner Ellis to approve.

The motion passed by the following voice vote:

Yeas: 6 - Hausmann, Ellis, Morris, Hall, Arrington, Carn


Absent: 1 - Pitts

CLERK GRIER: “On page 13, 20-0808, Public Works. Request approval to accept a
local maintenance and improvement grant from the Georgia Department of
Transportation."

COMMISSIONER CARN: "Motion."

COMMISSIONER ELLIS: "Second."

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "Properly moved and seconded. Let's vote.
Commissioner Hausmann."

COMMISSIONER HAUSMANN: "Yes."

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "Commissioner Ellis."

COMMISSIONER ELLIS: "Yes."

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "Commissioner Morris."

COMMISSIONER MORRIS: "Yes."

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "Commissioner Hall."

COMMISSIONER HALL: "Yes."

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "I vote yes. Commissioner Carn."

COMMISSIONER CARN: "Yes."

CLERK GRIER: "And the motion passes six yeas, zero nays.”

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COMMISSIONERS' ACTION ITEMS

Board of Commissioners

20-0809 Board of Commissioners (Pitts)


Request approval of a Resolution authorizing the County Manager and the
County Attorney to negotiate a Lease Agreement for the purpose of
providing space for the Fulton County Registrations and Elections
Department to store elections equipment if required for the November 3rd
Elections; and for other purposes. (APPROVED)

A motion was made by Commissioner Morris and seconded by


Vice-Chairman Arrington to approve.

The motion passed by the following voice vote:

Yeas: 7 - Pitts, Hausmann, Ellis, Morris, Hall, Arrington, Carn

CLERK GRIER: “Commissioner Action Items 20-0809, sponsored by Chairman Pitts.


Request approval of a Resolution authorizing the County Manager and the County
Attorney to negotiate a lease agreement for the purpose of providing space for the
Fulton County Registration Elections Department to store election equipment if required
for the November 3rd elections and for other purposes."

COMMISSIONER MORRIS: "I'm going to move approval."

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "I will second. This is a ratification though, right?

PATRISE PERKINS-HOOKER, COUNTY ATTORNEY: At the time we prepared it,


Commissioner Arrington, there was a whole bunch of issues with regard to timing. They
are waiting on this lease right now. It has not been signed to my knowledge by the
County Manager, but they need it in order to move some of the 3,000 equipment to that
warehouse. The warehouse manager would not allow it to proceed without it being
signed. And since we were so close to the meeting, we just decided to leave the first
version, which was authorization rather than thinking we had to sign it yesterday. And
so we were trying to get into a ratification, but he has not signed it as of yet."

COMMISSIONER HAUSMANN: "Can I ask what the purpose of this is? Have we been
-- is there -- is there a legal matter that we're responding to? What's going on here?"

DICK ANDERSON, COUNTY MANAGER: "Is Ellis Kirby there? I'll allow him to give
just a brief overview of what our plans are for the elections warehouse space needs."

ELLIS KIRBY, DEPUTY COO, INFRASTRUCTURE SERVICES: "Ellis Kirby. Thank


you, Commissioner Hausmann. In short, this space is to bridge us until we can have a

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long-range plan for our comprehensive warehouse for all of our elections' equipment
and other warehouse space needs in the future. We were using 4700 North for a lot of
the materials and also with State Farm over the past few months. We were able to
store the carriers and elections equipment within our existing facilities. But as you --
what -- the imminent opening of facilities next year along with wanting to move forward
with 4700, we're in dire need. We cannot fit -- we cannot fit I think half of the equipment
into our current warehouse, and we've got to have this warehouse space actually
tomorrow to get -- to get some of this equipment coming back into a space, into a
condition space for future use and for future management. So -- but we are -- we will be
-- this will be a bridge space as the county manager mentioned, for us to get to
developing options and locations for warehouse space that will meet the needs of
elections for the future given all the new equipment that we have."

COMMISSIONER HAUSMANN: "So it's not necessarily tied to any legal matter. It's
just a space issue and potentially there might be some limits to how long we have our
current facility and things like that. Is that -- is that what this is addressing or is this --
I've left it in my notes somewhere around here, I see that it mentioned a legal matter, is
the only reason I was asking."

ELLIS KIRBY, DEPUTY COO, INFRASTRUCTURE SERVICES: "Right. You're


correct. We need the space -- we need it for the space and for the equipment."

COMMISSIONER HAUSMANN: "Okay. So it has nothing to do with lawsuits?"

ELLIS KIRBY, DEPUTY COO, INFRASTRUCTURE SERVICES: "No."

COMMISSIONER HAUSMANN: "All right, thank you."

COMMISSIONER HALL: "I have a question. So why didn't DREAM just put this on the
agenda instead of the chairman?"

PATRISE PERKINS-HOOKER, COUNTY ATTORNEY: "Yeah, the reason that they


didn't is because the chairman had been sitting in the meetings when we were going
through the discussions about how we were going to store the extra machines, and he
said that he would go ahead and pass the resolution to allow us to get it onto the
agenda because this issue only came up as being critical on Thursday, and so he would
act rapidly to try to get it on the agenda so we can have the authority to get the
equipment and there was a timing issue, Commissioner Hall."

COMMISSIONER HALL: "So you're treating it as an emergency? You keep saying


critical and urgent. So you're treating --"

PATRISE PERKINS-HOOKER, COUNTY ATTORNEY: "[Inaudible] urgent in that we


have no place to put the extra machines. If you recall, the elections warehouse --

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COMMISSIONER HALL: "I’m just saying because we only approve for the chairman
and the county manager to put to move forward with like emergency type things.
Normally, this type of thing would be put on the agenda by the department that's
requesting it. So that's why I'm asking the question of why the chairman did it, and the
only thing that you responded is that it's critical and urgent and he was sitting in
meetings. So he took it upon himself to put it on the agenda; is that correct?"

PATRISE PERKINS-HOOKER, COUNTY ATTORNEY: "Because of the timing -- the


timing for the cutoff of a submission of the items on the agenda had already occurred.
So he put it on because he knew that we might need it to change it to a ratification as
the vice chairman indicated, or go forward with the authorization if we can -- if we could
wait until today, then it would be authorization. So he just moved forward with it to allow
it to be flexibly put on the agenda, but everybody's behind it, Commissioner Hall.
Everybody was at the table."

COMMISSIONER HALL: "Okay. Thank you."

COMMISSIONER HAUSMANN: "We want to follow up in that. Is there something in


our rules that we passed that prohibits the County Manager for putting on an item that
might need to have a majority vote to get it on the agenda? I don't recall that. It seems
not good business practice if there is an emergency or a critical time factor to an
administrative function or a facility function that, you know, we have the ability for our
county manager to put something or request something to be put on the agenda. Can
we not do it that way? Just curious."

PATRISE PERKINS-HOOKER, COUNTY ATTORNEY: "It could have been done that
way. The issue was it might have been a request for the ratification of an action if he
had to sign that lease yesterday. And at this -- we -- we didn't decide who needed to
put it on the agenda except it needed to be put on the agenda and this was the way it
was decided to be done. That's all."

COMMISSIONER HAUSMANN: "It did cause confusion, obviously, and questions. So


I guess I just agree then in the future for consistency and just so everybody just
understands what we're doing that it's, you know, renting a warehouse doesn't seem
like it needs to be sponsored by any of it by the commissioners. It just seems like a
facility matter that would come from the administration."

COMMISSIONER HALL: "I agree."

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "All right. Properly moved and seconded. [Inaudible]
I see the Chair is back. Mr. Chair, welcome."

CHAIRMAN PITTS: "Thank you. Continue, Vice Chair."

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "Commissioner Hausmann."

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COMMISSIONER HAUSMANN: "Yes."

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "Commissioner Ellis."

COMMISSIONER ELLIS: "Yes."

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "Commissioner Morris."

COMMISSIONER MORRIS: "Yes."

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "Commissioner Hall."

COMMISSIONER HALL: "Yes."

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "I vote yes. Commissioner Carn."

COMMISSIONER CARN: "Yes."

CHAIRMAN PITTS: "And I vote yes."

CLERK GRIER: "And the motion passes unanimously.”

Commissioners' Full Board Appointments

20-0811 Board of Commissioners


DEPARTMENT OF BEHAVIORAL HEALTH AND DEVELOPMENTAL
DISABILITIES REGIONAL ADVISORY COUNCIL (APPROVED)

Term = 3 years (No more than two consecutive terms)

Term below expired: 8/1/2017


Vacant (Member 1)

Commissioner Ellis nominated Dave Ake (Member 1) for a Full Board


appointment to a term ending August 1, 2023

A motion was made by Commissioner Ellis and seconded by


Commissioner Morris to approve.

The motion passed by the following voice vote:

Yeas: 7 - Pitts, Hausmann, Ellis, Morris, Hall, Arrington, Carn

CLERK GRIER: “Commissioner’s Full Board Appointments, 20-0811. Department of


Behavioral Health and Developmental Disabilities Regional Adversary Council, Advisory

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Council. Commissioner Ellis has nominated Dave Ake for a full board appointment to
term ending August 1, 2023."

COMMISSIONER ELLIS: "Move approval." .

COMMISSIONER MORRIS: “Second.”

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "Properly moved and seconded. Pending no


discussion, Commissioner Hausmann."

COMMISSIONER HAUSMANN: "Yes."

CHAIRMAN PITTS: "Commissioner Ellis."

COMMISSIONER ELLIS: "Yes."

CHAIRMAN PITTS: "Commissioner Morris."

COMMISSIONER MORRIS: "Yes."

CHAIRMAN PITTS: "Commissioner Hall."

COMMISSIONER HALL: "Yes."

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "I vote yes. Commissioner Carn."

COMMISSIONER CARN: "Yes."

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "Chairman Pitts."

CHAIRMAN PITTS: "I vote, yes."

CLERK GRIER: "And the motion passes unanimously.”

COUNTY MANAGER'S PRESENTATION AND DISCUSSION ITEMS

Open and Responsible Government

20-0812 External Affairs


Presentation of 2021 Legislative Agenda. (PRESENTED)

CLERK GRIER: “On page 14, 20-0812, External Affairs. Presentation of the 2021
Legislative Agenda."

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JESSICA CORBITT, DIRECTOR, EXTERNAL AFFAIRS: "Good morning,
Commissioners. I'm Jessica Corbitt, Director of External Affairs. Today, we are
presenting a 2021 proposed legislative agenda. We have been reaching out to your
offices to schedule meetings to get additional input from you. As you all recall, the 2020
legislative session was extraordinary in that the COVID-19 pandemic began while the
legislative session was underway. The general assembly adjourned the day after
crossover day, and then reconvened in June for a special session. As a result, many of
the legislative priorities that we had worked on during this past session remain on the
table. However, the 2020 session was the second year of the biannual session, so
legislation will have to be reintroduced. So what you'll see in our proposed legislative
agenda are many items carried over from 2020 as well as a few priorities that we have
heard from our Fulton County departments. We have also, of course, wanted to make
sure we are aligned with the ACCG, Association of County Commissioners of Georgia,
legislative priorities. And you will see several of those reflected in here as well. So
again, today, is what, as we have done in years past, provided a presentation of an
initial or proposed legislative agenda, and we will be requesting your additional input in
the next few days and bringing this back for approval on November 18th. With that, we
can go through these, and I will be glad to take any questions or receive any comments
that you would like to share with us today. Next slide, please. So here is a summary of
these -- and one of the first things that you will see listed here is the COVID-19
response. As the -- as the General Assembly convenes in 2021, unfortunately, we
believe that our county government and our state and our nation and our world will still
be dealing with the ramifications of COVID-19, and we wanted to have language in our
package to address the ongoing impact of that pandemic. The other items here, as I
stated earlier, are generally carryovers from our previous session and unfinished
business that we still have remaining. Next slide, please. So as you see here, we have
provided again some general language as we're still observing what legislative trends
and wanting to hear some of the input over the coming days. But so since March 2020,
Fulton County has provided a robust public health, social service, and economic
response to COVID-19. And as the pandemic continues, Fulton County seeks ongoing
support from the State of Georgia to ensure that residents, businesses, schools, and
local governments within Fulton County receive equitable access to state and federal
resources. I'm going to just go through all of these and then come back to any
questions. Next slide, please. This is again, an item that we have worked on the last
couple of years. We did have two bills related to this item and this year's session, and
we would, with the Board's approval, seek to reintroduce that legislation. Fulton County
seeks local legislation to ensure that portion of the Fulton County Executive Airport
property currently in an unincorporated Fulton County remains so in perpetuity. Next
slide, please. Transit continues to be a major concern and something where Fulton
County has a unique role. And with the evolution in recent years with the creation of the
ATL, we want to ensure that Fulton County remains a leader in this area. So what you
see here, Fulton County supports the designation of a permanent seat on the ATL
Board to be filled by county-elected official to ensure the interests of citizens and
businesses of Fulton County are met. Fulton County continues its support for long-term
financing tools to help local governments address their transit capital and operational
needs to ensure appropriate integration and equitable connectivity. And Fulton County

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requests that the State of Georgia provide ongoing allocated funds for transit. Next
slide, please. We have also addressed the issue of behavioral health, which is one of
the critical issues that touches almost every other aspect of our service delivery. What
you see here and as you all are aware, we have had ongoing discussions with the
Georgia Department of Behavioral Health and Developmental Disabilities as well as our
own Fulton County Department of Developmental and -- Behavioral Health and
Developmental Disabilities. This is also related to funding allocations for permanent
supportive housing clients in partnership with the City of Atlanta. Fulton County seeks
1.5 million in annual funding to support Behavioral Health Services for formerly
homeless individuals and permanent supportive housing. This will allow Fulton County
to maintain and establish services that begin following the 2019 legislative session.
Fulton County supports policies and additional funding to create greater capacity related
to opioid and addiction prevention treatment and recovery programs. Fulton County
seeks to serve as the safety net provider for behavioral health services for uninsured
and underinsured residents in our county. Next slide, please. As you all may recall and
Commissioner Morris was part of these conversations, there was a task force or a panel
of individuals from within the justice system who created a series of legislative priorities
that were -- while they're aspirational, they are also foundational to lasting justice reform
and meaningful impact on improved operations and outcomes within our justice system.
Obviously, there have been some changes within our justice system with the new recent
elections, but we believe these are still important recommendations and would again
seek your input. Fulton County supports legislation that creates a more efficient and
effective justice system and improves outcomes for victims, defendants, and taxpayers
including additional long-term behavioral health treatment beds at Georgia Regional
Hospital, additional state funding to expand the scale of existing diversion programs,
and establishment of new diversion programs. Authorization for prosecutors to divert
detainees to accountability courts prior to indictments, aligning with current procedures
for pretrial diversion programs. Establishment of state supported transition center to
help offenders successfully reenter the community providing employment, preparation,
access to health care, housing, addiction treatment and case management.
Authorization to conduct certain judicial proceedings via video conferencing. State
funding for local law enforcement and justice agencies to provide gang prevention
training and appropriate intervention. State funding for training, prevention, and
intervention related to sex trafficking, and amendments to provide statutory rights to
children for child attorney and legitimation and termination cases. Those are all related
to the justice system. Next is elections and obviously very timely here with yesterday's
and really a major shift in our election procedures that we have observed this year. One
of these and, again, we are -- this is an area where we have aligned with ACCG. Fulton
County is committed to providing secure elections in compliance with state law and
requests state funding for implementation of new machines and associated costs. Also
supporting legislation that allows any -- allows electors within the County to vote at any
precinct in the County on election day. This was particularly timely considering the
number of election day polling place changes that we experienced yesterday. Fulton
County supports expanding early voting locations to include non-government buildings,
which would equalize with voter access currently afforded on election day. Fulton
County supports statutory authorization to locate absentee ballot drop boxes at quasi

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government sites including public transit facilities. I can give one example, the Carter
Center which is on State-owned property, sought to be an absentee ballot drop box site.
They felt that because they were owned by a government, they'll be in their [Inaudible]
owned by a government agency that they would be able to do so and they were not
because the law currently provides, or the regulations provide for those to only be on
city or county-owned properties. Also Fulton County supports submission of absentee
ballots at polling places as I think you are all aware a voter must surrender their ballot,
complete an affidavit, and it is a longer process, and many voters have told us that they
would like to be able to simply bring their absentee ballot to the polling place. Lastly,
Fulton County supports revising the deadline by which counties must receive and
accept absentee ballot applications in order to better ensure that voters absentee
ballots will be counted. Again, very timely. You may recall that the U. S. Postal Service
recommended a two-week turnaround time and the law provides for absentee ballots to
be requested up until the Friday before. And lastly, on our major policy areas is the
equity and appeals process. We did have legislation introduced this year by David
Dreyer who's the chairman of our delegation, of our house delegation, that would create
some reforms that would mitigate issues with commercial properties losing value in the
appeals process disproportionally so compared to residential properties. I am going to
really quickly just go over a couple, I'm just not going to read all the texts, but the last of
our -- these are some other policy areas. Next slide, please. Next slide, please. One is
support for creative industries including film, television, fashion, music, and E-sports.
Next slide, please. Simplification of homestead exemptions. Next slide, please.
Supporting housing solutions and affordability. Next slide, please. Homeowner
protections. And so that -- those are kind of the key areas within our proposed
legislative package. We look forward to having -- next slide, please, to having
conversation with each of you about your input and any additional items you would like
to see modified or added so we can bring those forward for the vote in two weeks. I
want to mention that November 16th is the first day to prefile 2021 legislation, so we will
be monitoring that very carefully. Obviously, with yesterday's election results, we do
expect a number of new members of our delegation, I believe up to 11 potential
changes within our 36-member delegation, so a significant number of new members to
get to know. So we will be setting up meetings with those in the coming days. And,
again, the legislative session, the 2021 session, will be here before we know it. It will
begin on January 11th. With that, Mr. Chairman, and Members, Ms. Calhoun is with me
on ZOOM as well, and we would be glad to take any questions."

COMMISSIONER HALL: "Thank you. I have a question."

JESSICA CORBITT, DIRECTOR, EXTERNAL AFFAIRS: "Yes, ma'am."

COMMISSIONER HALL: "Or I'd like to offer an addition to the legislative packet. You
may already know this, but up to 19 states plus the District of Columbia allow same-day
registration, and I'd like to add to our packet that we push for permitting voters to
register up to and on election day itself. And that is my ask, thank you."

JESSICA CORBITT, DIRECTOR, EXTERNAL AFFAIRS: "Thank you, Commissioner."

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COMMISSIONER HAUSMANN: "I have a comment to that."

JESSICA CORBITT, DIRECTOR, EXTERNAL AFFAIRS: "Yes, Commissioner."

COMMISSIONER HAUSMANN: "That's a political hot potato, Commissioner Hall, and I


appreciate you bringing it forward, but I think that has to be vetted and discussed before
we just add it to the list."

COMMISSIONER HALL: "That's why --"

COMMISSIONER HAUSMANN: "And add to the list of things to consider, but I don't
necessarily think that all of us would agree on adding it our package at this time."

COMMISSIONER HALL: "That's fine. Consideration, discussion, whatever you need is


fine with me."

COMMISSIONER HAUSMANN: "Okay, thank you."

COMMISSIONER HALL: "But I just want to put it out there."

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "Similarly, I would like to see other institutions of
higher education added to the list of where ballot boxes can be dropped. I'd love to see
one in the AU Center. Currently, you can only do it, I guess if maybe at Georgia Tech
or UGA because they're state owned, but I would love to have a -- have the opportunity
to have those ballot boxes also accessible in the Atlanta University Center.”

JESSICA CORBITT, DIRECTOR, EXTERNAL AFFAIRS: "Thank you, Commissioner


Arrington. I think that -- that would be a great expansion and we can include that as
well in our updated draft.

COMMISSIONER CARN: "I agree. Anything that expands voter access accessibility,
same-day voting, obviously, would be a gold standard that I would love to have in this
state. So at some point, I want us to talk about that as well in terms of the possibilities
of its passing, you know. Obviously with a Republican-led state, there's not that much
interest in all likelihood, but I think it's something we ought to take a look at as well, so."

JESSICA CORBITT, DIRECTOR, EXTERNAL AFFAIRS: "Thank you."'

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "All right. No action items presented for us, Jessica?"

JESSICA CORBITT, DIRECTOR, EXTERNAL AFFAIRS: "Yes, sir. Not today."

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "All right. Thank you. Next item.

JESSICA CORBITT, DIRECTOR, EXTERNAL AFFAIRS: "Thank you, everyone."

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EXECUTIVE (CLOSED) SESSION

Board of Commissioners

20-0813 Board of Commissioners


Executive (CLOSED) Sessions regarding litigation (County Attorney), real
estate (County Manager), and personnel (Pitts). (APPROVED)

PRESENT IN THE EXECUTIVE SESSION REGARDING LITIGATION,


REAL ESTATE AND PERSONNEL: Chairman Pitts, Vice-Chairman
Arrington, Commissioners: Hausmann, Ellis, Morris, Hall, and Carn;
County Manager Dick Anderson; County Attorney Patrise Perkins-
Hooker; and Interim Clerk to the Commission Tonya R. Grier.

PRESENT IN THE EXECUTIVE SESSION REGARDING PERSONNEL:


Chairman Pitts, Vice-Chairman Arrington, Commissioners: Hausmann,
Ellis, Morris, Hall, and Carn.

a. A motion was made by Commissioner Morris and seconded


by Commissioner Hall to enter into Executive Session.

The motion passed by the following voice vote:

Yeas: 6 - Hausmann, Ellis, Morris, Hall, Arrington, Carn


Did not vote: 1 - Pitts

b. A motion was made by Commissioner Morris and seconded


by Chairman Pitts to increase Settlement Authority from
$25,000.00 to $27,500.00 in the matter of Paris Patrick v. Fulton
County US District Court, Northern District of Georgia Atlanta
Division Civil Action 1:19-cv-02893 and authorize the Chairman
to execute the Settlement Agreement.

The motion passed by the following voice vote:

Yeas: 7 - Pitts, Hausmann, Ellis, Morris, Hall, Arrington, Carn

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c. A motion was made by Commissioner Carn and seconded by
Chairman Pitts to approve the appointment of Tonya Grier to the
position of Clerk to the Commission in accordance with Fulton
County Code Sec. 2-107 effective Wednesday November 4, 2020
at an annual salary of 105,000.00 and be entitled to all benefits
customarily afforded to Fulton County employees.

The motion passed by the following voice vote:

Yeas: 7 - Pitts, Hausmann, Ellis, Morris, Hall, Arrington, Carn

CLERK GRIER: “20-0817, Elections update."

PATRISE PERKINS-HOOKER, COUNTY ATTORNEY: "No, that's supposed be after


executive session."

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "After executive session. All right so; I've got 1:07
p.m. What time do we want to begin executive session, 1:30? Is that fine with
everyone?"

COMMISSIONER HAUSMANN: "Yes, with me."

COMMISSIONER MORRIS: "Mr. Vice Chair, I'll move that we recess for executive
session for the purposes of discussing litigation, real estate, and personnel matters."

COMMISSIONER HALL: "Second."

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "Properly moved and seconded. Let's vote.
Commissioner Hausmann?"

COMMISSIONER HAUSMANN: "Yes, and I expect that they'll be sending us materials


right now."

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "Commissioner Ellis."

COMMISSIONER ELLIS: "Yes."

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "Commissioner Morris."

COMMISSIONER MORRIS: "Yes."

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "Commissioner Hall."

COMMISSIONER HALL: "Yes."

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "I vote yes. Commissioner Carn."

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COMMISSIONER CARN: "Yes."

CLERK GRIER: "And the motion passes, six yeas, zero nays."

COMMISSIONER ELLIS: "Vice Chair, what time did you say again?"

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "I was thinking 1:30, it that's acceptable for
everyone."

COMMISSIONER ELLIS: "Okay. All right."

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "All right. We should assume we'll get the call-in
instructions and we'll start the executive session at 1:30."

COMMISSIONER HAUSMANN: "And any information we need."

PATRISE PERKINS-HOOKER, COUNTY ATTORNEY: "Everyone should have the


call-in instructions. Vice Chair, I did send that to you personally as well."

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "Okay, thank you. As well as the agenda?"

PATRISE PERKINS-HOOKER, COUNTY ATTORNEY: "Yeah, the agenda's coming


from Danette John."

COMMISSIONER HAUSMANN: "Can I just say that it's most helpful if we get that
information right when we're going into executive session rather than have to search for
it that came in hours ago?"

COMMISSIONER HALL: "It really is."

PATRISE PERKINS-HOOKER, COUNTY ATTORNEY: "I would forward it."

COMMISSIONER HALL: "Because I get a lot of e-mails. It would be at the top of the
e-mail for me."

PATRISE PERKINS-HOOKER, COUNTY ATTORNEY: "I will forward you Jessica's e-


mail right now. And we haven't sent the agenda before, unless it just came to you."

COMMISSIONER HAUSMANN: "Thank you very much."

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "Thank you. All right, so I suggest we leave this so
that I can make sure that no one -- there's no cross contamination of executive session
and the public meeting." .

CHAIRMAN PITTS: “Call the roll Madam Clerk.”

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CLERK GRIER: "Welcome back Commissioners. We’re going to call the roll please.
Chairman Pitts?

CHAIRMAN PITTS: “Present.”

CLERK GRIER: “Commissioner Liz Hausmann."

COMMISSIONER HAUSMANN: "Present."

CLERK GRIER: "Commissioner Bob Ellis."

COMMISSIONER ELLIS: "Present."

CLERK GRIER: "Commissioner Lee Morris."

COMMISSIONER MORRIS: "Present."

CLERK GRIER: "Commissioner Natalie Hall."

COMMISSIONER HALL: "Present."

CLERK GRIER: "Vice Chair Marvin Arrington, Jr."

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "Present."

CLERK GRIER: "Commissioner Carn."

COMMISSIONER CARN: "Here."

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "Commissioner Carn is in the room with me here. So
everybody's present?"

CLERK GRIER: "Yes."

CHAIRMAN PITTS: "All right. Madam County Attorney, items in executive session to
be approved?"

PATRISE PERKINS-HOOKER, COUNTY ATTORNEY: "The only matter from


executive session that I need approval for is to increase the settlement authorization in
the matter of Paris Frederick v. Fulton County, U. S. District Court for the Northern
District of Georgia, Atlanta Division Civil Action number 1.19.(CV).02893 and to
increase it from 25,000 to 27,500. And to authorize the chairman to execute the
settlement agreement."

CHAIRMAN PITTS: "All right, is there a motion?"

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COMMISSIONER MORRIS: "Move approval."

CHAIRMAN PITTS: "All right. I'll second. Any questions or comments? If not, let's
vote. Madam Clerk."

CLERK GRIER: "And the vote is open."

CHAIRMAN PITTS: "Commissioner Hausmann. Commissioner Ellis."

COMMISSIONER ELLIS: "Yes."

CHAIRMAN PITTS: "Commissioner Morris."

COMMISSIONER MORRIS: "Yes."

CHAIRMAN PITTS: "Commissioner Hall"

COMMISSIONER HALL: "Yes."

CHAIRMAN PITTS: "Vice Chair Arrington."

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "Yes."

CHAIRMAN PITTS: "Commissioner Carn."

COMMISSIONER CARN: "Yes."

CHAIRMAN PITTS: "And I vote, yes."

CLERK GRIER: "And the motion passes --"

COMMISSIONER HAUSMANN: "And I vote yes as well."

CHAIRMAN PITTS: "Thank you, Commissioner Hausmann."

CLERK GRIER: "And the motion passes unanimously."

CHAIRMAN PITTS: "All right. One other matter from executive session for a final
approval. The Board of Commissioners utilizing the executive search firm of Baker Tilly,
LLP has concluded its search for the clerk to the commission. I move that we approve
the appointment of Tonya Grier to the position of clerk to the commission in accordance
with F.C. section 2-107 effective Wednesday, November 4, 2020. Ms. Grier will be paid
a salary of $105,000 per annum and be entitled to all benefits customarily afforded to
Fulton County employees.

COMMISSIONER CARN: "Motion."

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CHAIRMAN PITTS: "All right, properly moved. Commissioner -- motion by Mr. Carn
and I'll second. Any questions or comments? Hearing none, let's vote. Commissioner
Hausmann."

COMMISSIONER HAUSMANN: "Yes."

CHAIRMAN PITTS: "Commissioner Ellis."

COMMISSIONER ELLIS: "Yes."

CHAIRMAN PITTS: "Commissioner Morris."

COMMISSIONER MORRIS: "Yes."

CHAIRMAN PITTS: "Commissioner Hall."

COMMISSIONER HALL: "Yes."

CHAIRMAN PITTS: "Vice Chair Arrington."

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "Yes."

CHAIRMAN PITTS: "And, Commissioner Carn, did you already vote?"

COMMISSIONER CARN: "Yes."

CHAIRMAN PITTS: "All right, Commissioner Carn. And I vote, yes."

CLERK GRIER: "And the motion passes unanimously."

COMMISSIONER MORRIS: "Thank you."

CLERK GRIER: "Thank you, Commissioners."

CHAIRMAN PITTS: "Any other -- any other matters in executive section?"

COMMISSIONER ELLIS: "Congratulations."

CLERK GRIER: "No. Thank you."

PATRISE PERKINS-HOOKER, COUNTY ATTORNEY: "Congratulations."

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ADDED TO THE MEETING

Items added to the Agenda

20-0816 Board of Commissioners


ANIMAL WELFARE HEARING BOARD (APPROVED)

Term = 2 years

Term below expired: 1/31/2017


Vacant (Arrington)

Vice Chairman Arrington nominated Jessica Hamby for a District


appointment to a term ending December 31, 2022.

a. A motion was made by Vice-Chairman Arrington and


seconded by Commissioner Ellis to approve adding item
#20-0816 to the Regular Meeting Agenda.

The motion passed by the following voice vote:

Yeas: 6 - Hausmann, Ellis, Morris, Hall, Arrington, Carn


Absent: 1 - Pitts

b. A motion was made by Vice-Chairman Arrington and


seconded by Commissioner Carn to approve item #20-0816.

The motion passed by the following voice vote:

Yeas: 6 - Hausmann, Ellis, Morris, Hall, Arrington, Carn


Absent: 1 - Pitts

CLERK GRIER: “Our first add-on item on page 4 of the Add-on memo, 20-0816.
Animal Welfare Hearing Board, Vice Chairman Arrington has nominated Jessica Hamby
for district appointment to a term ending December 31, 2022."

COMMISSIONER CARN: "Move approval."

COMMISSIONER MORRIS: "Seconded."

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "Any discussion. If not, let's vote. Commissioner
Hausmann."

COMMISSIONER HAUSMANN: "Yes."

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VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "Commissioner Ellis."

COMMISSIONER ELLIS: "Yes."

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "Commissioner Morris."

COMMISSIONER MORRIS: "Yes."

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "Commissioner Hall."

COMMISSIONER HALL: "Yes."

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "I vote yes. Commissioner Carn."

COMMISSIONER CARN: "Yes."

CLERK GRIER: "And the motion passes, six yeas, zero nays.”

20-0817 Board of Commissioners


Discussion: Election Update (DISCUSSED)

A motion was made by Vice-Chairman Arrington and seconded


by Commissioner Hausmann to approve adding item #20-0817 to
the Regular Meeting Agenda.

The motion passed by the following voice vote:

Yeas: 6 - Hausmann, Ellis, Morris, Hall, Arrington, Carn


absent: 1 - Pitts

CHAIRMAN PITTS: "Okay. Mr. Barron."

RICHARD BARRON, DIRECTOR, REGISTRATION AND ELECTIONS: "Yes, I'm here.


Good afternoon, Commissioners."

CHAIRMAN PITTS: "Mr. Barron is on. This is an election update. You have the floor,
Mr. Barron."

RICHARD BARRON, DIRECTOR, REGISTRATION AND ELECTIONS: "Okay. So we


had a --"

COMMISSIONER HAUSMANN: "Mr. Barron, you look like you're in a smoky room.
Are you in a nightclub?"

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RICHARD BARRON, DIRECTOR, REGISTRATION AND ELECTIONS: "Well, no. I
grabbed one -- there's a suite. I'm on the suite level at State Farm and I came -- I guess
it's the way this light is. I thought maybe it was just my computer. It's one of the suites
here right next to the room where we're counting."

COMMISSIONER HAUSMANN: "I thought you might deserve a little break, so I just
didn't know. Not time for a break yet, I guess."

RICHARD BARRON, DIRECTOR, REGISTRATION AND ELECTIONS: "I was -- I was


going to say that I wish I could get that break, but we actually have early voting starting
on Monday for the December 1st election. In case anyone’s forgotten."

COMMISSIONER MORRIS: "I know, that's amazing."

RICHARD BARRON, DIRECTOR, REGISTRATION AND ELECTIONS: "In case


anyone's forgotten. Okay. So we had a very successful early voting. We voted
315,418 people during early voting. We had 58,188 people vote on election day and, so
far, we have published 74,024 votes for absentee by mail. In addition to that, yesterday,
we scanned another 25,000 absentee-by-mail ballots. And those are -- there's vote
review panel scheduled for 2 p.m. today to adjudicate all of those ballots so that we can
publish those results. Currently, we are working on right now with absentee-by-mail.
We started this morning with four bins of ballots that are being opened and scanned.
There were another 24,000 ballots in that. We have an additional 12 ballot boxes that
are ready to open and scan -- that we're opening and scanning. That's another 9,600
ballots. We have 15 trays that we've transported over here from downtown, which is
another 6,000. And then we -- there are 2,800 ballots that we received with the drop
boxes yesterday that are in signature verification and getting credit for voting that we'll
get those done today. And the Ballot Review Community starts at 2:00 p.m., and we
have told them to be available for the remainder of the day in order to get all of those --
the ballots that we need adjudicated, to get those completed as well today. And so that
is -- we should scan about 42,000 -- approximately 42,400 ballots today. And in
addition, with the 25,000 that we had scanned yesterday that weren't adjudicated, there
are about approximately 67,000 to 68,000 that are going to be published through the
day today. In addition to that, we had a relatively successful election day. It was much
lighter turnout. We had -- it was much the same as 2016's presidential election on
election day, except a little bit slower, but that can be -- we can account for that
because our absentee by mail. We've voted more people through early voting and
absentee by mail this election than we did the entirety of the 2016 presidential election.
And, at this point, I can take any questions.”

CHAIRMAN PITTS: "Vice Chair Arrington?"

COMMISSIONER MORRIS: "I have some, Mr. Chairman?"

CHAIRMAN PITTS: "All right, Arrington, Morris, Carn."

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COMMISSIONER HAUSMANN: "Hausmann."

CHAIRMAN PITTS: "All right. Arrington, Carn, Hausmann, okay?"

VICE CHAIR ARRINGTON, JR.: "Mr. Barron, I just want to take this time to thank you
and your team for doing an awesome, excellent job in preparing and leading up through
early voting and in through yesterday. Obviously, we still have a few minor, you know,
issues to deal with, but, you know, again, I've said it before. When things didn't go well,
I spoke up, so I want to make sure that I speak up when things do go well. You did a
great job. Thank you so much."

RICHARD BARRON, DIRECTOR, REGISTRATION AND ELECTIONS: "Thank you


very much. My staff has been -- I think they're exhausted, but they are -- they're still
going."

CHAIRMAN PITTS: "Commissioner Morris."

COMMISSIONER MORRIS: "I'll add my congratulations, Rick. It's a mindboggling job


to think about. It worked well. So did I understand in effect that we have now reported
all votes except the possibility of these 67,400?"

RICHARD BARRON, DIRECTOR, REGISTRATION AND ELECTIONS: "Yes. That's


the case. And then we'll have provisional ballots. We are sorting all of the Provisionals
that came in. We'll have through Friday to do the research on that. We'll have to --
anything that's out of precinct, we have to remake those ballots and then scan those.
And then we can receive [Inaudible] ballots through Friday as well, from military."

COMMISSIONER MORRIS: "So the provisional ballots, about how many are those?
They're not in the 67,400."

RICHARD BARRON, DIRECTOR, REGISTRATION AND ELECTIONS: "I don't have


the exact figure yet. No, that -- this is going to be in addition to. I know that it's
somewhere in the 1,200 to 3,000 range, but I don't know the exact figure. As soon as --
we expect to have that later today."

COMMISSIONER MORRIS: "Okay. And I guess I need a little understanding about


this adjudication process. Who is on this committee or whatever you called it that does
--"

RICHARD BARRON, DIRECTOR, REGISTRATION AND ELECTIONS: "The Fulco --


democrats and the Fulco republicans appoint members to the vote review panel, and
any ballots -- we scan all the ballots through afterwards. If any of the ballots have a
contest that is flagged that where the -- somebody needs to make a decision on voter
intent because of whatever marks are on that ballot, those are then adjudicated by the
vote review panels that the political parties appoint."

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COMMISSIONER MORRIS: "Okay. So these folks only look at the ones that the
scanning alerts something."

RICHARD BARRON, DIRECTOR, REGISTRATION AND ELECTIONS: "Right. Right.


They get -- they get flagged and then a member of each party looks at that and then
they determine what the intent of the voter was."

COMMISSIONER MORRIS: "And if they disagree, what happens?"

RICHARD BARRON, DIRECTOR, REGISTRATION AND ELECTIONS: "Then there is


a tie breaker, and that's done by Ralph Jones on my staff."

COMMISSIONER MORRIS: "Okay. Staffer is the tie breaker?"

RICHARD BARRON, DIRECTOR, REGISTRATION AND ELECTIONS: "Yes."

COMMISSIONER MORRIS: "Okay. Well that's helpful. You know I -- I'm hoping that
we're not going to have a lot of disputes about not counting votes. I hope we're going to
count all the ones that are legitimate and --"

RICHARD BARRON, DIRECTOR, REGISTRATION AND ELECTIONS: "Yeah. And


we have had -- I think Ralph, throughout this election, he has only had to make a
decision on two."

COMMISSIONER MORRIS: "Oh really? Okay"

RICHARD BARRON, DIRECTOR, REGISTRATION AND ELECTIONS: "Yes."

COMMISSIONER MORRIS: "Good. All right. Thank you. My last question is about
the water because I've gotten, you know how it is. Most folks are happy and I think the
County Manager talked about the survey of satisfaction and voters leaving the process,
but like anything, I've gotten some e-mails and calls. Can't believe that we use water as
an excuse for not getting the, you know, getting the results out on a timely basis kind of
stuff, you know?"

RICHARD BARRON, DIRECTOR, REGISTRATION AND ELECTIONS: "So --"

COMMISSIONER MORRIS: "My question really is, if you can describe for us why -- I
mean there were reports that we stopped counting for four hours or something because
of the water. Can you describe for us what the nature of that problem was and why we
had to stop and whether all of that is actually accurate."

RICHARD BARRON, DIRECTOR, REGISTRATION AND ELECTIONS: "A pipe burst


in the ceiling above the room we are, we’re scanning ballots. Scanning and opening
ballots. And it looked really like there was rain coming out of the ceiling and the entire
carpeting was just covered in water. And so it didn’t -- there was -- I've got a video of it.

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It's actually pretty -- there was a lot of water in that room. Hawks came in really quickly
and they fixed that pipe leak and got the carpet cleaned up. We had the staff onsite."
[Inaudible].

COMMISSIONER MORRIS: "There some noise or something." [Inaudible].

CHAIRMAN PITTS: "Mr. Barron, hold on a second. The timeline might be important
here. The pipe broke at 6:07. It was repaired at 8:07."

RICHARD BARRON, DIRECTOR, REGISTRATION AND ELECTIONS: "Yeah, they


were -- the Hawks were very quick about getting that out, getting that whole situation
remediated for us."

COMMISSIONER MORRIS: "Which day? And a.m. or p.m.?"

RICHARD BARRON, DIRECTOR, REGISTRATION AND ELECTIONS: "That was


a.m."

COMMISSIONER MORRIS: "Of which day?"

RICHARD BARRON, DIRECTOR, REGISTRATION AND ELECTIONS: "Yesterday,


on election day."

COMMISSIONER MORRIS: "And so you all sort of grabbed up the ballots and got
them out of there?"

RICHARD BARRON, DIRECTOR, REGISTRATION AND ELECTIONS: "They were all


in -- they were all in boxes. No ballots were damaged and none of the equipment was
damaged. But it was -- there was what looked like -- there was a little pond on the floor
that had gathered up."

COMMISSIONER MORRIS: "And you -- and you had folks leave for a while; is that --
the four hour -- is the four-hour gap where you weren't working on them inaccurate?"

RICHARD BARRON, DIRECTOR, REGISTRATION AND ELECTIONS: "So the pipe --


yeah, and the pipe was reported. The pipe burst was reported, yeah, sometime around
what Chairman Pitts said and then it took a couple of hours for them to get that cleaned
up for us. I'm not sure about where the four-hour time period came in. But what
Chairman Pitts reported is more in line with what -- but I don't know how much work
they were able to get done as that car -- you know, the water was being sucked out of
the carpet. I mean, I can send you the video if you'd like to see it so you can get better
understanding of it."

COMMISSIONER MORRIS: "Well, I'm just trying -- trying to be able to respond to


these folks that have called me and bugged me about it. I'm just trying to understand
exactly what --"

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RICHARD BARRON, DIRECTOR, REGISTRATION AND ELECTIONS: "Yeah,
definitely. I mean it wasn't meant to be any sort of an excuse. It just said when you -- if
you see the video, it looks like there was rain coming out of the ceiling. There was no
way to go in there and perform work."

COMMISSIONER MORRIS: "Okay. All right. Thank you."

RICHARD BARRON, DIRECTOR, REGISTRATION AND ELECTIONS: "But I think the


responsiveness of the hawks and the personnel over at State Farm was exemplary in
getting that situation. And they were prepared to move us to a different part of the
arena, if necessary. But I think -- once the assessed it, they knew that they could just
get it. It would be better for them just to do what they did rather than move us to a
different part of the arena."

COMMISSIONER MORRIS: "Okay. Thank you."

CHAIRMAN PITTS: "Commissioner Carn."

COMMISSIONER CARN: "Thank you Richard, good job. You guys had a big job to do.
You took care of it, and I think you met most of the expectations, so we thank you. We
appreciate you and the hard work of all of your staff members, volunteers, and
additional departments that came in. Everybody grabbed a shovel and got to work on it,
so good job. You mentioned so -- you've got 42,000 more to finish up today and then
you'll have a full 67 to 67,400 of being done. So that will be all of the counting after
today, right?"

RICHARD BARRON, DIRECTOR, REGISTRATION AND ELECTIONS: "Yes. Except


for provisional and any UOCAVA that come in from overseas."

COMMISSIONER CARN: "What time would the 67 be finished? What would be your
guess?"

RICHARD BARRON, DIRECTOR, REGISTRATION AND ELECTIONS: "Well, I think


it's -- by the time the adjudication is done, it's probably going to be sometime in the 9:00
p.m. to midnight range."

COMMISSIONER CARN: "Okay. So [Inaudible] is 2:00 p.m. You guys are going to be
counting all through that and 9:00 p.m. tonight you'll have the 67 additional will be
added in."

RICHARD BARRON, DIRECTOR, REGISTRATION AND ELECTIONS: "Yes."

COMMISSIONER CARN: "Okay. And I think the other question was answered. So
total numbers; is that still a deadline? I heard 441 at one point."

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RICHARD BARRON, DIRECTOR, REGISTRATION AND ELECTIONS: "No. We were
at -- we were at 447,630."

COMMISSIONER CARN: "Okay. And that's without the 67,400?"

RICHARD BARRON, DIRECTOR, REGISTRATION AND ELECTIONS: "Correct, sir."

COMMISSIONER CARN: "Okay. So, we're looking, we're going to top 500,000. And
that's -- is that's everything, or that's not everything."

RICHARD BARRON, DIRECTOR, REGISTRATION AND ELECTIONS: "Well we still


have -- still have provisionals and will still have any military coming from overseas."

COMMISSIONER CARN: "Okay. We were looking, shooting at -- looking at 600,000 or


so."

RICHARD BARRON, DIRECTOR, REGISTRATION AND ELECTIONS: "I didn't -- we


were projecting that there would be an 80 percent turnout, which would be 620,000."

COMMISSIONER CARN: "Okay."

RICHARD BARRON, DIRECTOR, REGISTRATION AND ELECTIONS: "And we were


hoping to drive 80 percent of the voters who voted to absentee and early voting. So we
definitely succeeded in that -- in that aim because almost -- it was almost 60,000 voted
on election day and the remaining 300 and -- well, once we get done with absentee by
mail, we will have somewhere in the 142,000 range for absentee by mail and adding
that on to the 315,000 early votes. That is 457,000 will have voted before election day
and about 60,000 will have voted on election day."

COMMISSIONER CARN: "Okay. We're looking around 535, possibly total, something
like that."

RICHARD BARRON, DIRECTOR, REGISTRATION AND ELECTIONS: "Yes."

COMMISSIONER CARN: "Okay. All right. That's all I had. Okay, thank you."

CHAIRMAN PITTS: "Commissioner Hausmann."

COMMISSIONER HAUSMANN: "Yes, thank you. And Rick, thank you for all your hard
work. I went around yesterday to a lot of precincts. You had more than adequate
coverage of poll workers. Now there were some, you know, frantic, trying to get things
open on time because of the moving situation and whatnot. But most -- I think we only
had, what, one or two that had even a little bit of a delay, not long at all?"

RICHARD BARRON, DIRECTOR, REGISTRATION AND ELECTIONS: "Right."

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COMMISSIONER HAUSMANN: "And, you know, to had turned that situation into
virtually unnoticeable by the voters. You should be commended for that. So and
everybody's trying to be very enthusiastic about working and it was good. Some of the
precincts I went into though, you know, there were more workers than voters."

RICHARD BARRON, DIRECTOR, REGISTRATION AND ELECTIONS: "Yes."

COMMISSIONER HAUSMANN: "Turnout yesterday was pretty slim, which was


surprising and I do have some questions about numbers. So I'm trying to go through all
this methodically because, you know, the eyes of the nation really are on us here
because we're one of the last states to report and everything we're doing is going to be
scrutinized, so let's just, you know, talk about it, okay?"

RICHARD BARRON, DIRECTOR, REGISTRATION AND ELECTIONS: "Okay."

COMMISSIONER HAUSMANN: "We pride ourselves in trying to get reporting of the


day of the election. You know, all these absentees, of course. That's not -- wasn't
possible. But can you just tell us what time we reported the election day numbers?"

RICHARD BARRON, DIRECTOR, REGISTRATION AND ELECTIONS: "The election


day numbers, for the most part, I think we probably finished those up sometime around
2:00 a.m. The early voting numbers with the new system because our absentee by --
our early voting, the way we have to do it now, it took us a full eight hours to close-out
early voting. So what -- and I talked to a senator this morning and told him that I'd really
like his help about getting something done legislatively to close out early voting before
7:00 p.m. It took -- because we allocated 92 -- 92 scanners for early voting. Those
scanners only can hold a certain amount of ballots at a time. Once they get to a certain
point, we have to go out, we have to collect those ballots, and put in new -- new
compact flashcards. Once we do that, every one of those compact flashcards has to be
zeroed out and tapes have to be printed. And so it took us a full eight hours to close out
early voting, which is unlike anything we had to do in the past. We usually could get
early voting done on a big election sometime within 90, 90 to 120 minutes. But unless
we get a legislative change, every time we have a big election and we have massive
early voting program like we did this time, we're going to have very late early voting
reporting."

COMMISSIONER HAUSMANN: "Okay. So I think that's where the confusion came in,
because in one of your press briefings, you did say that you thought you'd have all of
that done by 8:30, and --"

RICHARD BARRON, DIRECTOR, REGISTRATION AND ELECTIONS: "Yes. And I


think that was based on, when we had the elections, when we had elections previously
this year, it just didn’t -- the early voting program wasn't that large in June, August for --
and part of it, we didn't have to switch out so many compact flashcards throughout the
entire early voting process. So if you have a lower turnout election, you can’t allocate it
and then you only have those cards to -- and I've already -- I've talked to someone at

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the state this morning and kind of expressed the frustration. If you have a big early
voting program, it's very hard to close that out."

COMMISSIONER HAUSMANN: "Well, I'm sure I know what senator you're referring to,
he called me at midnight last night looking for that information and I -- he asked me if he
call you, and I said absolutely, you can call him."

RICHARD BARRON, DIRECTOR, REGISTRATION AND ELECTIONS: "Yes. Yeah. I


spoke to him -- I think I spoke to him at 3:00 a.m. as well, so --"

COMMISSIONER HAUSMANN: "Yeah, I'm sure you did. But anyway, all right. And so
then all of the early voting has been tabulated and entered into the system, right?"

RICHARD BARRON, DIRECTOR, REGISTRATION AND ELECTIONS: "Yes."

COMMISSIONER HAUSMANN: "Okay. And then election day voting numbers, what
was our turnout for election day?"

RICHARD BARRON, DIRECTOR, REGISTRATION AND ELECTIONS: "It was 58,188


is --"

COMMISSIONER HAUSMANN: "Okay. 58,188?"

RICHARD BARRON, DIRECTOR, REGISTRATION AND ELECTIONS: "Yes."

COMMISSIONER HAUSMANN: "Yeah, see I got 57,330 in some e-mail here. I don't
know where that number came from, but."

RICHARD BARRON, DIRECTOR, REGISTRATION AND ELECTIONS: "What is it?


Oh, well, I'm going by the times cast, and so what that includes are ballots that have
votes on them, but they -- there may be undervotes. So there are 58,000 -- 58,188
Election Day ballots cast in the presidential race; 57,330 were the total ballots cast. So
some people under voted in that contest."

COMMISSIONER HAUSMANN: "Okay. And then at your 5:00 press briefing, you said
we only had 14,152 votes that had been casted at that point. So I'm assuming that was
an error of some sort because there's no way in that last hour, two hours, you would
have quadrupled that number."

RICHARD BARRON, DIRECTOR, REGISTRATION AND ELECTIONS: "At --"

COMMISSIONER HAUSMANN: "In your press briefing, I think Dwight gave an update
of the total --"

RICHARD BARRON, DIRECTOR, REGISTRATION AND ELECTIONS: "Oh, you know


where he got that. Okay. So we have -- if he did that at the Board of Registration and

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Elections Meeting, what -- the way to explain that is what that total is that he pulled off
of Web EOC, all that total is, the number of technicians we have in the field, they're
reporting -- if they don't report all of the total -- the total number of check-ins into Web
EOC, that figure actually shouldn’t -- shouldn't be for public consumption because it's
completely dependent on whether the techs in the field are updating accurately the
number of check-ins at every precinct."

COMMISSIONER HAUSMANN: "Well, okay. Just for future, I think that causes some
confusion --"

RICHARD BARRON, DIRECTOR, REGISTRATION AND ELECTIONS: "Yes."

COMMISSIONER HAUSMANN: "If you’re going to give a number, I mean we need to


make sure we're giving good numbers."

RICHARD BARRON, DIRECTOR, REGISTRATION AND ELECTIONS: "Right. I


agree."

COMMISSIONER HAUSMANN: "So, I just wanted to bring that to your attention. All
right. So, then on the reporting screen, you know, we've got 255 voting precincts, but
some of those are combined or they're just getting multiple scanners in some. So when
you look at the reporting, I believe it said up to 386. So that's just because they're --

RICHARD BARRON, DIRECTOR, REGISTRATION AND ELECTIONS: "We have a lot


of splits, yeah. And we have a zero --"

COMMISSIONER HAUSMANN: "Okay."

RICHARD BARRON, DIRECTOR, REGISTRATION AND ELECTIONS: "We have


some precincts in there that have zero voters. We have some that are splits. Yeah, so
there's 255 polls and I believe 300 and -- yeah, 388 precincts or 384 precincts, yes."

COMMISSIONER HAUSMANN: "Okay. So I'm just trying to -- you know, people have
a lot of questions and so when they don't -- I'm just trying for the benefit of the public, let
everybody know what we're -- how we're operating here. Okay. So then I did witness
also a lot of folks bringing back in their absentee ballot. They wanted to vote in person.
How many of those did we have yesterday; do you know?"

RICHARD BARRON, DIRECTOR, REGISTRATION AND ELECTIONS: "I do not have


that number. That's something that I can pull off of election net. But we -- you know,
we did -- we did have that. I didn't hear that there were a lot yesterday, but it's possible
that we had them throughout the County."

COMMISSIONER HAUSMANN: "Okay. Because I know you had people assigned in


every precinct to, you know, fill out the paperwork, the affidavit, and then make sure that
they were in the system, you know, correctly and, you know, you and I had a

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conversation about the ACLU doing that function. So I'm just curious how that worked
out and how many there were. If there were any issues, anybody rejected. I’d just like
to see that data, please."

RICHARD BARRON, DIRECTOR, REGISTRATION AND ELECTIONS: "Okay, yeah."

COMMISSIONER HAUSMANN: "Okay. And then on the absentee ballots themselves,


everything has been picked up. There's -- everything's in the system accounted for.
There's no ballots that are going to come in after what you're telling us today, correct?"

RICHARD BARRON, DIRECTOR, REGISTRATION AND ELECTIONS: "Only


UOCAVA."

COMMISSIONER HAUSMANN: "The military votes."

RICHARD BARRON, DIRECTOR, REGISTRATION AND ELECTIONS: "Yes."

COMMISSIONER HAUSMANN: "Okay. And there's been observers the entire time
watching the absentee ballot counting?"

RICHARD BARRON, DIRECTOR, REGISTRATION AND ELECTIONS: "Yes."

COMMISSIONER HAUSMANN: "Even last night between 11:00 p.m. and 1:00 a.m.?
Was there observers there?"

RICHARD BARRON, DIRECTOR, REGISTRATION AND ELECTIONS: "Now, I know -


- I know somebody from the secretary -- secretary of state's inspector came over there
during that time."

COMMISSIONER HAUSMANN: "Well, I'm getting -- I'm getting text messages right
now from some of the republican observers that said that they didn't know it was
happening. They were told that y'all were quitting and then they found out today that
the 11,000 had been scanned during that time period. So --"

RICHARD BARRON, DIRECTOR, REGISTRATION AND ELECTIONS: "Yeah. I'm not


positive how many were scanned. I'd have to get with Ralph on that. But, yeah, there
was -- there were -- some people were let go and when I found out they were letting
some people go, I told them they needed to stay, so."

COMMISSIONER HAUSMANN: "Well, you know, I hate to hear that people think that,
you know, they weren't allowed to observe when they're clearly legally allowed to do so
and so. I just wanted to make sure that you addressed that also to avoid any potential
problems. So you said none of the absentee ballots were damaged by the water
issue?"

RICHARD BARRON, DIRECTOR, REGISTRATION AND ELECTIONS: "Correct."

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COMMISSIONER HAUSMANN: "Okay. All right. I think that's all my questions about
the counting process, but I do want to talk about this moving company. There's been
discrepancies in the media about, you know, whether or not they actually didn't show up
as they were supposed to. They -- I think WSB's Twitter feed that they had fulfilled their
obligations, and do you have any comment on that?"

RICHARD BARRON, DIRECTOR, REGISTRATION AND ELECTIONS: "It's my


understanding that they canceled on us in midmorning on Monday. And I'm not sure -- I
think maybe the county manager might have the name of the moving company, Mike
Beltman, I believe it is."

DICK ANDERSON, COUNTY MANAGER: "Yes. It's Beltman."

COMMISSIONER HAUSMANN: "Well, they're disputing that, so I don't know what's


going to come of that. But they're definitely disputing it and then, you know, we were
asked to continue working with them. So I think that needs to be figured out before we
move forward on any future -- I mean if there's a dispute, are they going to do a good
job for us, you know. I just think that's an important thing that we need to figure out
what happened, how it happened. You know, that's a big deal. I would have thought
y'all would have been all over making sure that everything was lined up for that. So --

RICHARD BARRON, DIRECTOR, REGISTRATION AND ELECTIONS: "It's my


understanding -- we had both companies lined up at least a week ahead of time, is my
understanding."

COMMISSIONER HAUSMANN: "Okay. All right. Well, I hope you get your counting
done today as you think you are. Everybody's waiting, you know. There's a lot riding
on it, as you know, so."

RICHARD BARRON, DIRECTOR, REGISTRATION AND ELECTIONS: "Yes."

COMMISSIONER HAUSMANN: "All right. That's all I've got."

RICHARD BARRON, DIRECTOR, REGISTRATION AND ELECTIONS: "Thank you."

CHAIRMAN PITTS: "Any other comments -- I'm sorry, Commissioner Carn."

COMMISSIONER CARN: "I've got one additional question. Rick, so the 67,000, are
they going to show up in the tally at 9:00 p.m. tonight or is it going to -- are they going to
trickle in all day or what?"

RICHARD BARRON, DIRECTOR, REGISTRATION AND ELECTIONS: "We'll have an


update this afternoon -- the first vote -- when the vote review panel meets, once they
adjudicate what has been -- what they have on those thumb drives, they will adjudicate
that and we'll do an update at that point, and then there will be a subsequent update
tonight."

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COMMISSIONER CARN: "Okay. And so the 42,000 of this -- of the 67 -- 25 already --
already in the tab, in the total, right?"

RICHARD BARRON, DIRECTOR, REGISTRATION AND ELECTIONS: "Yes. And


then there will be some from this morning once we begin the opening process this
morning. And then so there will be some additional scans in there as well."

COMMISSIONER CARN: "Okay."

RICHARD BARRON, DIRECTOR, REGISTRATION AND ELECTIONS: "In that 25."

COMMISSIONER CARN: "And there should be an additional 42,000 between 9:00 and
9:00 p.m.; is that what you're saying?"

RICHARD BARRON, DIRECTOR, REGISTRATION AND ELECTIONS: "Yeah, at


sometime between -- yeah. I would say between 9:00 p.m. and midnight, yes."

COMMISSIONER CARN: "Those are 42 new votes, 42,000 new ones? Okay. I just
wanted to make sure that was clear. Okay.

RICHARD BARRON, DIRECTOR, REGISTRATION AND ELECTIONS: "Yes."

COMMISSIONER CARN: "And the moving company, they were supposed to deliver to
the schools down in Fulton between 10:00 a.m. and 2:00 p.m. You said they canceled
mid-afternoon. Did they cancel between that time? Did they deliver any at 10:00? Did
they start the delivery and stop or --

RICHARD BARRON, DIRECTOR, REGISTRATION AND ELECTIONS: "We have two


moving companies hired. One company was to handle certain precincts and another
company was to handle others. Midmorning is when the -- the one in question
canceled. The other company was fulfilling its duties the entire day. We got DREAM
and we had lots of support from DREAM to get many of the other -- the precincts
delivered."

COMMISSIONER CARN: "Did they give the County a reason why they canceled?"

RICHARD BARRON, DIRECTOR, REGISTRATION AND ELECTIONS: "My


understanding is that had -- they said they had the trucks but no staff."

COMMISSIONER CARN: "Okay, but that -- I mean --"

COMMISSIONER HAUSMANN: "It's not what they're saying in the media. "

COMMISSIONER CARN: "Okay, that's -- that's -- okay."

COMMISSIONER HAUSMANN: "It's determined."

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COMMISSIONER CARN: "Okay, got it."

CHAIRMAN PITTS: "Hold on, let's -- [Inaudible]. Just a minute, guys. Just a minute."

PATRISE PERKINS-HOOKER, COUNTY ATTORNEY: "I would rather us not try to go


through this type of analysis. And -- right, and besmirch the character of a particular
entity before we have even done any type of internal review of it, Commissioners,
because they may come back after us saying that, you know -- we're just talking here.
We haven't done any investigation in this. How about Mr. Barron giving you a report of
what he finds out."

COMMISSIONER HAUSMANN: "That's fine with me. I do have another comment,


though, Mr. Carn, when you're done."

COMMISSIONER CARN: "I'm done."

CHAIRMAN PITTS: "Commissioner Hausmann, you have the floor."

COMMISSIONER HAUSMANN: "I just have to say to find out, you know, Monday night
that there were still 30 precincts in North Fulton County that had no equipment. It sent
me into a tizzy. You know, just to have it that blatant that North Fulton was at risk of not
having, you know, the precinct set up, was very, very stressful. And I know it was
stressful on you too, Mr. Barron and your folks. I'm not suggesting that there was any
planned, you know, voter suppression type, you know, things that we always get
accused of."

RICHARD BARRON, DIRECTOR, REGISTRATION AND ELECTIONS: "Right."

COMMISSIONER HAUSMANN: "But it was very unsettling. So, I mean, I'm not happy
at all about it. I want to find out what in the world happened. This cannot happen again.
It just cannot happen again."

RICHARD BARRON, DIRECTOR, REGISTRATION AND ELECTIONS: "Yeah, and I


agree with that. It was -- yeah, it was stressful to say the least."

COMMISSIONER HAUSMANN: "And the poor poll workers that stayed there all day for
hours waiting and they didn't know what was going on and, you know, where they could
have been resting for the long day they had the next day rather than hanging out, you
know. So it was just -- it was just a really bad situation all the way around."

RICHARD BARRON, DIRECTOR, REGISTRATION AND ELECTIONS: "I agree."

COMMISSIONER HAUSMANN: "I did forget to ask you one thing though, too. You
know, at the end of the day, what's the closeout process like. I know that the -- the poll
workers are having to learn a new system. But after they do whatever they do at the

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precinct, then they have to transport everything. So can you just walk us through what
happens after the fact?"

RICHARD BARRON, DIRECTOR, REGISTRATION AND ELECTIONS: "Yeah, once


they transport -- once they get all of their paperwork done, they transport it to one of the
five check-in centers. They're assigned to go to a check-in center. Once -- once the --
everything is checked in at one of our five regional check-in centers, then we have a
relay that's done from those down to English Street which is where our warehouse is for
tabulation."

COMMISSIONER HAUSMANN: "Is there -- what sort of protocols are there? Does
one person take all the stuff by themselves? Is there an escort? How do we -- what do
we do?"

RICHARD BARRON, DIRECTOR, REGISTRATION AND ELECTIONS: "We have --


no, we have individuals -- it has to be at least two individuals that transport from the
check-in center down to -- down to the English Street and it's also the same procedure
that we have to have from the polling site to the check-in centers with two poll workers."

COMMISSIONER HAUSMANN: "In the same car or how does that work?"

RICHARD BARRON, DIRECTOR, REGISTRATION AND ELECTIONS: "Yeah, it's


supposed to be in the same car. In some instances, I think, because of the pandemic,
they can follow one another. But yeah, we need two that will go."

COMMISSIONER HAUSMANN: "But no police escort or anything of that nature?"

RICHARD BARRON, DIRECTOR, REGISTRATION AND ELECTIONS: "We usually


have the police that escort from the check-in centers down to English Street."

COMMISSIONER HAUSMANN: "Okay. But not from the precinct?"

RICHARD BARRON, DIRECTOR, REGISTRATION AND ELECTIONS: "No."

COMMISSIONER HAUSMANN: "Okay. All right, thank you."

CHAIRMAN PITTS: "Other questions or comments for Mr. Barron? Any --"

COMMISSIONER ELLIS: "Mr. Chair?"

CHAIRMAN PITTS: "Yes, sir. Commissioner Ellis?"

COMMISSIONER ELLIS: "Thank you. Mr. Barron, thanks for the report. Just -- I don't
want to get too retrospective because we're still in this process, but on the absentee
ballots, and I guess, you know, this is really probably a question I think that some of a
lot of folks might -- that are observing this; if we knew, sort of anticipated the volume

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that we were having come in. I know we had the two-hour delay. A lot of folks were still
asking the question, if we knew we were going to be able to start doing a lot of this work
early, why are we still at this position today. And is there anything here in terms -- well,
I guess I like you to answer that question and within it, are there -- I know we purchased
a lot more equipment and I think this also gets to maybe the issue of some of the stuff
you said on early voting, but is there any sort of lesson from either equipment or
manpower that could have expedited this process that we're not sitting in this position
today."

RICHARD BARRON, DIRECTOR, REGISTRATION AND ELECTIONS: "Yeah, and I


think -- we purchased five opener extractors, and I think talking with the vendor, just for
example up in the county in which Philadelphia sits, they have -- they're close to the
same size as us and they purchased 15 of them. And I think that is one place where
things bottlenecked. Those things open and extract pretty quickly. But I think for a
county our size, if we're going to continue to have this volume, we need to purchase
more of these. I think one of the -- but we have a limit of the amount of space in which
we can do that. I know that -- I saw last night on, you know, Orange County, Florida, I
saw the room in which they were operating everything and it is -- they have so much
equipment in there and it is -- I mean it's envious to look at that, at how -- how much
equipment they have in one space with the amount -- with enough people that can
operate in there. And I think that we probably should invest in another 10 of these
openers because I think anybody that's had a good experience voting by mail, that is
going to be something that they -- they're going be more likely to do in the future. And
so I don't think we're going to see any sort of regression in the ballot-by-mail numbers in
the future. And that is one the places where things get bottlenecked. And once there's
an extraction, then you have to have enough space with people to flatten those ballots,
because after they are -- they sit in those envelopes for a long time after going through
the mail and then they get compressed. They go through signature verification.
Because it's a long labor-intensive process. Once we get a ballot back, it is then we
scan it into Election Net to give credit for voting. From there, it is then -- goes through a
process of signature verification. And it can go -- that can be a two-step process
depending on whether the signature initially matches with DDS or whether asked to go
onto the voter registration, the original voter registration application. Then from there,
they're sorted into districts. Then they're batched up once they're sorted and then
they're sent along. So it is a -- it is a long process to get from the receipt of the ballot to
get it to the scanner. And these -- this is, you know, some of these procedures we're
going to have to do, we're going to need to refine them and make some changes going
forward. I've talked to -- you know, I've briefed the Fulton County delegation a few
weeks ago about some of the changes that I think need to be made in order to make
this process smoother. And I think that if the counties can get together and work with
some of the legislators, I think we can -- we can make this process much smoother in
Georgia going forward. But I think it's space and equipment are going to be the keys in
the future."

COMMISSIONER HAUSMANN: "[Inaudible] meeting, Mr. Ellis?"

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COMMISSIONER ELLIS: "What about manpower?"

RICHARD BARRON, DIRECTOR, REGISTRATION AND ELECTIONS: "Yeah, we will


need -- we will need probably more manpower. But the more openers we have, the
fewer -- there's probably another piece of equipment that we need to buy. It's like a
juggler and what it does is you can put a stack of ballots in it and it will space them out
because that -- one of the other issues is that once you have these ballots together that
have been folded and are compressed together in the envelopes, they can stick -- they
can stick when they're going through the scanners as well. And so that can -- that can
slow the processing time of the scanners."

COMMISSIONER ELLIS: "Okay."

COMMISSIONER HAUSMANN: "Can I ask one more question?"

CHAIRMAN PITTS: "Yes, go ahead."

COMMISSIONER HAUSMANN: "Okay. So we talked earlier about new warehouse


space and a lease. I don't know if anybody signed anything yet. I know we have a
situation where we have to house all this equipment now. But, you know, I've seen
those same videos of different operations that had things set up in the same room as an
assembly line type operation. And then I’ve heard, you know, we're going between
multiple floors and multiple buildings and, you know, have people that all they do is run
ballots back and forth between all these different areas where we've got this set up.
You know, we've invested what 37, 38 million dollars in this, this year. You think we
could have figured out a streamline way to do that. But since we didn't, and we know
we're going to have absentee ballots in the future, I hope we're looking at that. You
know, not just getting some warehouse now that's not going to serve our needs. We
need to figure this out and, you know, and come up with a solution that's going to work
for us, a big county like ours that has to -- we're going to be faced with this. I mean the
COVID's going to go away. I think people would prefer to vote in person, but I don't
know that. People may have decided they like this and not have to stand in line. So I
think we really need to look at how this -- how this is done. Have everything out in the
open and transparent and not have anybody think we're trying to hide any sort of activity
here. I mean I'm just telling you right now the Georgia GOP does not think we've
treated them fairly last night. I don't know who told them to go home, but you know, I'm
seeing things on social media about it already. So we just got to do better than this.
We can't even have the appearance that, you know, there's something that we don't
want them to see because we know that's not the truth, right?”

RICHARD BARRON, DIRECTOR, REGISTRATION AND ELECTIONS: "Right."

COMMISSIONER HAUSMANN: "And we're not hiding anything, right? We're doing
everything we're supposed to do the right way, right?"

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RICHARD BARRON, DIRECTOR, REGISTRATION AND ELECTIONS: "Yes. Yes.
And I do agree. I mean if it -- I think one of -- because of the pandemic, we were able to
get space in different areas. But what you said is correct that we had different things
going between, you know, we have two different call centers, actually three different call
centers, and we had things going between all three of those on different floors as you
described. And we have talked with County executive management and we're supposed
to have a budget meeting tomorrow to discuss some of these things like more space,
more warehouse space that would accommodate us in the future. I think one of the
things that we that we've learned throughout this whole process is to have a central
location and a space. I think we might need to look at some of the spaces in some of
these other counties and just to see what type of -- what type of operation they have
and how much space they have to do everything that they do because we're continuing
to grow and I would imagine -- we process -- we've got four and a half times the number
of absentee-by-mail than we did in 2016. So the landscape has really changed in that
regard."

COMMISSIONER HAUSMANN: "Well I just -- I just hope that we're not entering into
agreements right now with warehouses and various things that aren’t going fulfill our
needs and that we're being -- looking at the big picture long term as we figure out, you
know, what kind of space requirements we really need. So that's all I got to say about
that. Thank you."

CHAIRMAN PITTS: "Anyone else? Any other questions for Mr. Barron? All right.
Thank you very much, Mr. Barron."

RICHARD BARRON, DIRECTOR, REGISTRATION AND ELECTIONS: "Thank you,


Commissioners."

CHAIRMAN PITTS: "Madam Clerk, any other items that come before us?"

CLERK GRIER: "No further items."

CHAIRMAN PITTS: "All right. If there are no further items that come before us today,
I'll entertain a motion to adjourn. Without objection, we stand adjourned. Thank you."

ADJOURNMENT

There being no further business, the meeting adjourned at 2:39 p.m.

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Respectfully submitted,

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Tonya R. Grier, Clerk to the Commission

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Nikki Peterson, Chief Deputy Clerk to the Commission

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