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The Classical Seven Planets by Charles Obert
The Classical Seven Planets by Charles Obert
by
Charles Obert
Foreword by
Nina Gryphon
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Dedication
To Master Astrologer,
Teacher
and Student in Astrology
William Lilly
Acknowledgments
I want to give special acknowledgments and thanks to my mentor and
friend Ben Dykes, who vary graciously granted me permission to use
the descriptions of the planets from his forthcoming translation of Abu
Ma'shar.
Thanks to the people who took the time to read and critique a pre-
release version of this book, including Rebecca Bihr, Madeleine
Youngstrom and Darleen Yuna.
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Also by Charles Obert
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Table of Contents
Foreword..............................................................11
Introduction - the Purpose of this Book................13
Planetary Meaning - General Context...................22
The Traditional Order of the Planets..................................22
The Four Elements...............................................................24
Sect........................................................................................29
Thema Mundi and Rulerships..............................................31
Exaltation.............................................................................32
The Joys of the Planets........................................................33
The Source Texts..................................................35
Reading the Traditional Texts.............................................37
The Source Texts - Introduction.........................................40
The Moon - Source Texts......................................42
The Moon - Valens...............................................................42
The Moon - Abu Mashar......................................................47
The Moon - Al-Biruni...........................................................49
The Moon - William Ramesey.............................................52
The Moon - William Lilly.....................................................54
The Moon - General Notes...................................................57
Mercury - Source Texts........................................60
Mercury - Valens..................................................................60
Mercury - Abu Mashar.........................................................65
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Mercury - Al-Biruni..............................................................67
Mercury - William Ramesey................................................69
Mercury - William Lilly........................................................71
Mercury - General Notes......................................................75
Venus - Source Texts............................................78
Venus - Valens......................................................................78
Venus - Abu Mashar.............................................................83
Venus - Al-Biruni.................................................................85
Venus - William Ramesey....................................................87
Venus - William Lilly...........................................................89
Venus - General Notes.........................................................93
Sun - Source Texts...............................................96
The Sun - Valens..................................................................96
Sun and Other Planets.........................................................97
Sun - Abu Mashar..............................................................100
The Sun - Al-Biruni............................................................102
The Sun - William Ramesey...............................................104
The Sun - William Lilly......................................................109
The Sun - General Notes.....................................................113
Mars - Source Texts............................................116
Mars - Valens......................................................................116
Mars - Abu Mashar.............................................................120
Mars - Al-Biruni..................................................................123
Mars - William Ramesey....................................................125
Mars - William Lilly............................................................127
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Mars - General Notes..........................................................131
Jupiter - Source Texts.........................................134
Jupiter - Valens...................................................................134
Jupiter - Abu Mashar.........................................................138
Jupiter - Al-Biruni..............................................................140
Jupiter - William Ramesey.................................................143
Jupiter - William Lilly........................................................145
Jupiter - General Notes......................................................149
Saturn - Source Texts..........................................151
The Planet Saturn - Prefatory Note....................................151
Saturn - Valens...................................................................152
Saturn - Abu Ma'Shar.........................................................157
Saturn - Al-Biruni...............................................................159
Saturn - William Ramesey..................................................161
Saturn - William Lilly.........................................................164
Saturn - General Notes.......................................................168
Conclusion - Going Further................................174
Bibliography.......................................................177
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Foreword
Foreword
One of the challenges facing students of traditional astrology is the
absence of a sufficient number of hands with which to keep multiple
books open for easy comparative reading. I am joking, of course, but
with a grain of truth. Texts comprehensively collating ancient
planetary associations have been scarce despite a growing number of
traditional texts available to modern readers. Perhaps one reason has
been the incredible pace of translations published by Dr. Benjamin
Dykes in the last decade; simply assimilating the new (to us) material
has been a full-time job for even experienced traditional astrologers.
Yet, in addition to expanding our own understanding, we need to help
the next generation of astrologers. Astrology students have needed a
contemporary comparative text that combined the best of traditional
sources, and ideally, provided a modern commentary on sometimes
obscure astrological attributions.
Until Charlie Obert had asked me to review the manuscript for The
Classical Planets, I had wondered why no one had yet written such a
text. When I read the draft, I understood - selecting the right sources
and providing thoughtful commentary takes insight and a substantial
amount of work. Charlie’s book is a model for the creation of
comparative texts; one must approach the sources with humility, care,
and humor. At times, ancient authors may not align, or may disagree
outright, and it takes patience and insight to tease apart the sometimes
tangled textual clues. I am happy to report that Charlie’s book does all
this masterfully.
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Foreword
Nina Gryphon
May 2020
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Introduction - the Purpose of this Book
At least for learning purposes this means leaving out the three modern
outer planets, Uranus, Neptune and Pluto. It means leaving out the
asteroids. It means leaving out any modern planetoids or dwarf
planets. It means leaving out any hypothetical points like Uranian
astrology's Trans-Neptunian Planets.
I want to make very clear that I am NOT saying that all of those
modern factors are not valid or meaningful or that they do not work in
practice. I do not mean this book to be an attack on modern astrology,
so please do not take it as such.
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Introduction - the Purpose of this Book
First of all, many modern astrologers rely very heavily on the three
outer planets, leaving the classical seven to be a kind of a secondary
background. It is very often the case that, when I put up a chart to be
studied, modern astrologers will tend to jump first to the three outer
planets, and there seems to be a special fascination with Pluto.
I find that modern astrologers who use asteroids tend to jump right to
the specific asteroids they are interested in and make those the
primary focus of the reading. The asteroids become the meat of the
interpretation, and the seven classical planets are either ignored or
serve as a kind of neutral background.
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news reporting that takes sound bites out of context and makes them
the focus of a story; the danger of bias and distortion is common and
widespread. This has been particularly evident in astrology
interpretation of political subjects that I have been seeing recently,
which overwhelmingly follow the opinions and bias of the person doing
the reading.
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You will see the single core concept approach very commonly used in
modern beginner's astrology texts. This simplified keyword approach,
going from generals to particulars, is not how traditional astrology is
organized, nor is it how it needs to be learned.
In the traditional source texts we will look at, the listed meanings of
each of the planets are not consistent. They are not organized around a
single concept or keyword. You will see that the descriptions of the
planets are more like catalogs, descriptions of attributes, of the kinds
of items that are under that planet's jurisdiction. Each planet does have
its main themes and characteristics, but they are complex and varied.
The organizing concepts and understanding need to come AFTER you
have been wrestling with all that detail, and not before. The system
starts with learning particular meanings and moves toward the general
concepts, not the other way around. It is a different way of learning,
and I think it produces a much richer end result.
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For instance, as parts of the attributions you will often see catalogs of
different kinds of plants, food, places, animals, stones, weather, and so
on. Which list you would look at would depend on the topic of the
question being asked. There is no single, one-size-fits-all keyword that
can be applied to all situations.
The way we are presenting the source texts here is to present the texts
with their details first, and the commentary and summary at the end.
For instance, traditionally the planet Venus has little to do with money
or wealth or possessions; it is at most a minor theme. That is a modern
innovation that comes from strongly identifying the meanings of
planets and houses. Venus gets identified with the second house so it
must have to do with money. In traditional astrology that does not
apply. Money and commerce show up most often with Mercury, and
wealth is best attributed to Jupiter.
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My Own Experience
I want to talk a little bit about my own experience, my own history
working with astrology. I started out many years ago - many, many
years ago - many, many, many years ago... as a modern astrologer,
largely because that was what was available when I was learning. When
I began to get serious about learning traditional astrology, I went cold
turkey and cut out all of the modern planets and asteroids altogether.
For three or four years I restricted myself to only the traditional
planets, and only traditional meanings and techniques. I immersed
myself in traditional astrology on its own terms.
After that, I went through a period where I added the three modern
planets back in, experimented with modern techniques like the use of
the asteroids and with analysis methods like Uranian and harmonic
astrology. It was a very good learning period, and it gave me a great
deal of respect for what is good about modern astrology.
The first four books that I wrote prior to my recent book on Saturn all
came from that period in which I used the modern planets. In those
books I tried to use a combination of charts where some were limited
to the traditional seven and some included the modern outer planets. I
did this partly to provide a kind of bridge for modern astrologers to
approach traditional astrology, and in that respect I think they serve a
useful purpose.
Earlier in this essay I talked about the reasons why I decided to return
to heavily emphasizing the classical seven planets. In my current
astrology work I now use only the traditional seven planets. My plan is
to continue using only the classic seven in any new books and classes I
do. That is based on my experience both in reading and client sessions
and in my teaching classes and leading study groups. I find there are
some things about the traditional seven planets that modern
astrologers just do not catch if they continue to use the modern
planets.
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Even during my period of using the modern outer planets, I could tell
that I did not think about them in the same way most of my students
seemed to. For me they were peripheral, secondary to the classical
seven, and for a good portion of my students they were the most
heavily emphasized, the first points in the chart to be looked at. It now
seems best to me as a teacher to emphasize the importance of the
classical seven planets by removing the outer planets altogether. The
seven classical planets will return to center stage since they will be the
only actors on the stage, and this forces you to look at them in a new
way.
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own terms, you can then decide for yourself how to proceed with your
further practice. Whether or not you decide to use the modern outer
planets and other bodies, I think you will find that the classical seven
planets will take on greatly increased importance and richness of
meaning.
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Planetary Meaning - General Context
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The Traditional Order of the Planets
Within the sphere of the fixed stars, there were spots in the sky that
changed their position over time. These are the planets, from the Greek
phrase aster planetes, meaning wandering star. Each of the seven
classical planets, including the two Lights, the Sun and Moon, has their
own sphere or orbit around the earth. The planets are like lesser gods
or mediator beings that transmit the will of deity from the primum
mobile down into our sphere of the earth. Each planet has its own
domain of responsibility and its own way of acting. Each of the planets
inhabits its own ring or heaven counting outward from the earth, with
Saturn being the seventh heaven, the outermost before the realm of the
fixed stars.
In the realm of the stars and planets all is eternal. The movement is
orderly, regular and predictable.
The planet closest to the earth is our Moon. Within the Moon's orbit, is
the sublunary sphere, the realm of change, of birth, growth, decay and
death. This is the realm of the four ancient elements, fire, air, water
and earth. The elements are in four rings inside the Moon's orbit, with
fire outermost, then air, then water, and finally earth, the densest of
the elements, at the center. It is the interaction and transformation of
the elements that causes change on earth. The planets act on and affect
the realm of the elements, and each planet has its own elemental
affinity.
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The Traditional Order of the Planets
The order of the planets also relates to the periods in human life - the
Moon rules over birth and infancy, Mercury gets childhood, and so on
out to Saturn which rules old age.
As you consider the meanings of the planets, keep this Chaldean order
in the back of your head, as it will often shed further light on why
planets have the attributions they do.
When we talk about the world of the elements, we are in that realm
called sublunary, within the orbit of the Moon. Outside of the ring of
the Moon all is ordered and stable; within that order all is shifting
instability and change, the mutable world of earth.
Hot and cold are considered to be active qualities, moist and dry are
considered passive.
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The Four Elements
Hot Cold
moves up moves down
expands contracts
active passive
moves forward retreats
speeds up slows down
advances withdraws
adventurous, cautious,
optimistic pessimistic
diurnal nocturnal
Hot and cold are the two opposite kinds of motions, like the rhythm of
breathing out and breathing in. Hot is a motion that moves up, forward
and outward, and cold retreats, pulls in, and retracts. It's like the
difference between summer and winter - our bodies open and expand
into the heat, and withdraw and contract to protect from the chill.
Moist Dry
connects separates
flexible rigid
softens hardens
receptive unreceptive
blurs distinctions accentuates
distinctions
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The Four Elements
Moist and dry are a different kind of pair. They are related to the
movement of coming together and of separating. We talk of bare bones
or dry facts when we want to look at things distinctly, to separate them.
Adding moistness connects, but it also blurs. When things dry up they
are lifeless; we need to add moisture to reconnect and form new life or
sustain existing life.
Now take those two pairs, combine them in the 4 possible ways, and
you get the 4 elements.
Elements by Quality
Dry Moist
Hot fire air
Cold earth water
Given those basic qualities, we will now examine the four elements in
turn.
Fire is active, but it needs but it needs air, and it needs earth, the most
passive of elements, to feed on. Fire signs can provide energy, but they
can also feed on, and burn up, the people around them.
Fire is active but not reflective, not self-aware. Also, fire moves quickly.
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The Four Elements
Air - hot and moist - combines some of the activity of fire with the
connectivity of water. Air also 'flows' but outward rather than
downward, and tends to escape out of containers. Air connects by
moving sideways, blowing where it will. Air is associated with intellect,
communication, exchange of ideas. Air, being warm and active, is
considered diurnal. Air is a social and mental element.
Earth - cold and dry - rigid, stable, passive, unyielding, but also
supportive. Provides the shape, the container - without earth the other
elements would have no way to keep a shape. When completely dry,
earth is hard. It takes water to soften and loosen the earth, make it
pliable. Too much water and earth loses its dry quality and its shape
altogether, and it can be washed away. Earth is associated with
material reality, practicality. Earth can also be sensual, in touch with
the body. Earth also slows down any planets in it. Earth, being passive,
is considered nocturnal.
The elements are not stable and static conditions. They are continually
mixing, blending, changing into each other. The four seasons are an
image of the four elements set into cyclic motion, transforming one
into the other. They seasons take the elements and combine them with
the process of time.
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The Four Elements
The basic definitions of the planets are partly derived from their
elemental structure. The elemental makeup of a planet helps to explain
how it functions. The planet is not reducible just to its elemental
quality, but that quality is an important part of the planet's identity. It
says a lot about how that planet functions in the realm of the elements,
what its affinities are.
Planets by Element
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The Four Elements
Jupiter and Venus are both moderate, and both moist. Jupiter is moist
and moderately hot, Venus is moist and usually described as cold, or
rather, cool. Jupiter is moist in an expansive, outgoing way. Venus is
moist in a cool, receptive way.
Some traditional sources show Jupiter as cool and moist, and Venus as
warm and moist. Both are considered as moderate either way. I think it
makes more sense to make Jupiter warm since it goes with the
expansiveness, and Venus cool since it goes with a more passive
receptiveness. Also, Jupiter is a warm day planet, and Venus is a cool
night planet.
Mars and Saturn are both extremes - Mars is extreme hot and dry,
Saturn is extreme cold and dry. Both are threatening because of their
very imbalance and extremeness.
Sect
Sect is built on the most basic two-fold division of astrology into day
and night, diurnal and nocturnal. The planets are divided into two
groups by sect along these lines, as shown in the following table and
diagram.
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Sect
Each of the two sects contains three planets - one light, one benefic
(beneficial and easy) and one malefic (harmful, challenging, difficult).
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Thema Mundi and Rulerships
The Thema Mundi diagram shows rulerships. Sun and Moon, the two
lights, are on the left side of the diagram in Leo and Cancer. Cancer to
Aquarius is the Lunar half of the circle, Leo to Capricorn is the Solar
half. The other planets each have two signs, moving out from the lights
in the order of their distance from the earth. Mercury takes the two
signs adjacent to the lights, Gemini and Virgo, and so on out through
to Saturn which takes the signs opposite the lights.
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Exaltation
Exaltation
The diagram above shows the signs in which each planet has the
dignity of exaltation. It is likely that this was derived from a separate
rulership scheme than the rulerships we see in the Thema Mundi
shown previously.
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The Joys of the Planets
The diagram above shows the houses in which each of the planets is in
their joy. In considering this diagram, note the following patterns.
• The two lights, the two benefics and the two benefics are
opposite each other.
• All of the diurnal planets are in houses above the horizon, and
all of the nocturnal planets are in houses below the horizon.
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The Joys of the Planets
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The Source Texts
The astrologers range from Vettius Valens in the second century A.D.
up through William Ramesey and William Lilly in England in the
1600's, near the end of what is considered the age of traditional
astrology. What is noteworthy is the consistency of meaning
throughout that period spanning around 1500 years. This consistency
of meaning gradually fell apart after that period with the decline of
traditional astrology, and the meanings changed drastically in our
modern era from the early 20th century and beyond.
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The Source Texts
As of this writing the source texts that I use here are in print and
widely available in inexpensive editions, or will be published and
available soon.
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Reading the Traditional Texts
As you read the traditional texts I think you will find that they do not
read like modern prose. The structure is different, and you need to go
at a different pace and pay very careful attention. You need a different
reading strategy to make sense of them.
To give you an example, the following quote from Abu Mashar on the
planet Mars is a single sentence in the original source text.
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Reading the Traditional Texts
[END OF QUOTE]
In the section on Mars in this book I break this single sentence up into
separate clauses on the page to make it easier for modern eyes to scan.
If you are reading traditional texts for yourself you will often need to go
through the text word by word, clause by clause, and not expect
smooth, quick reading modern prose.
Reading the source texts you will catalogs or lists of meanings that are
not always related to each other. The task of digesting them, of coming
up with the integrating factors, is something that needs to be done by
the student. This is practically the inverse of the style of learning in
modern astrology, which starts with single keywords and core concepts
and then branches out from there. In traditional astrology you have the
catalogs of varying attributes, and you have to distill out the
integrating factors for yourself. Those integrating factors are not
always simple and neat, nor are they easy to boil down to a few key
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concepts. It is worth resisting the urge to boil them down too far or
make them too neat.
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The Source Texts - Introduction
At the end of each group of texts I will share some of my own thoughts
on the planets and their attributes. The purpose of my interpretive
comments is not to be definitive or inclusive, but to give some ideas for
starting to think about them. Part of the purpose of this book is to give
you an opportunity to work with drawing meaning from the source
texts for yourself, and hopefully entice you to explore further within
the original texts.
I comment the two earlier texts, Vettius Valens and Abu Mashar, more
heavily than later authors since there is so much overlap in meaning. I
will only comment on the later texts where a specific meaning stands
out or needs clarification. For most of the examples, the sections from
William Ramesey and William Lilly will have little or no commentary.
You will note that there is a great deal of overlap in the subjects
assigned to the various planets. For example, knowledge and learning
are attributed to Mercury, to the Sun, to Jupiter and to Saturn. Each of
those relate to knowledge, yet each relates in a somewhat different
way, with a different flavor. Some planets have a great deal of affinity
in meaning, like Jupiter and the Sun. The planets Mercury and Venus
take some of their meaning from being close to the Sun, so each
overlaps in meaning with the Sun.
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The Source Texts - Introduction
For many of the planets I will be including quotes from writers in the
Platonist tradition. That will often add the meaning of each of the
planets in a higher spiritual sense, where each planet fits in what you
could call the divine economy. There is a spiritual dimension to the
planets in Platonist tradition, and astrology in that sense becomes a
link to the divine. Astrology is a religion in the root meaning of the
term, re-ligare, re-linking us to divine unity and underlying order.
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The Moon - Source Texts
The Moon, lit by the reflection of the sun’s light and possessing a
borrowed light, in a nativity indicates man’s life, body, the mother,
conception, <beauty>, appearance, sight, living together (i.e. legitimate
marriage), nurture, the older brother, housekeeping, the queen, the
mistress of the house, possessions, fortune, the city, the assembly of
the people, gains, expenses, the household, voyages, travel and
wanderings (it does not provide straight pathways because of Cancer).
The Moon rules the parts of the body as follows: the left eye, the
stomach, the breasts, the breath, the spleen, the dura mater, the
marrow (as a result it causes dropsy/moist syndromes).
[COMMENT]
All the main themes of the Moon are already here in one of the earliest
surviving texts we have. The key point is the fact that the Moon's light
is borrowed or reflected light from Sun; the Moon has no light of its
own.
Moon is associated with the physical life and the body. The Moon is
also our mortality, life within the changeable world where everything is
born, grows, fades and dies like the Moon's phases. Moon is also the
mother, woman, and anything to do with birth or rearing, or with
woman's traditional roles. Being physical, Moon relates to possessions,
physical things we own. This is likely related to the fact that fortune
waxes and wanes like the Moon.
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The Moon - Valens
[COMMENT]
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The Moon - Valens
Jupiter and the Moon are good, acquisitive: they cause men to be
masters of adornments and slaves, and they bestow distinguished
offices and ranks. They cause men to benefit from women and
distinguished individuals, to be treated well by family and children,
and to be thought worthy of gifts and honors. They make treasurers,
men who lend much, who are trusted, and who find treasures and
become wealthy.
[COMMENT]
Both Moon and Jupiter relate to belongings and treasure; put those
two together and you get wealth.
Venus and the Moon are good with respect to rank, acquisitions,
and the inception of business, but they are unsteady with respect to
living together, friendships, and marriage, bringing rivalry and
hostility, as well as ill-treatment and upset from relatives and friends.
Likewise with respect to children and slaves, these stars are not good:
they cause possessions to be fleeting and bring mental anguish.
[COMMENT]
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The Moon - Valens
Mercury and the Moon are good with respect to the union and
status of men and women, with respect to the power of speech and
education, and concerning commerce and other enterprises. They
make men who act in common, who are resourceful, experienced,
inquisitive. They also cause men to advance by great expenditures, to
be very changeable, not persevering in their activities or intentions for
the future. <These men are> noble in the face of adversity, but are
subject to ups and downs in their livelihood.
[COMMENT]
The Sun and the Moon are good. They are productive of
associations with the great and of high rank, as well as possession of
estates, property, money, and adornment. These stars cause men to be
successful in business enterprises and to receive profit. If the basis <of
the nativity> is found to be great, men become leaders of cities, in
charge of affairs, preeminent among the masses, gifted with a very high
public image, munificent, governing, ruling, unsurpassed, and
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The Moon - Valens
Sun adds the connection with greatness and high rank, somewhat
similar to what we see with Jupiter or Saturn. Moon is repeatedly
linked to businesses and wealth, and will benefit from good
connections with the Sun. The reference to being great men and
leaders are mostly connected with the Sun. The Moon adds an
unstable, fluctuating quality that does not persevere.
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The Moon - Abu Mashar
33 And as for the Moon, she is the luminary of the night, and her
nature is cooling, moist, phlegmatic (and in her is incidental heat,
because her glow is from the Sun), and she is light, suitable in every
affair, craving joy and beauty of character, and being praised.
34 And she indicates the inception of all works, and kings, the nobles,
good fortune in [one’s] way of life, success in the things she wants,
decency in religion, the higher sciences, wonders and sorcerers, an
abundance of thought about things, and premonition; engineering, the
science of lands and waters (and their assessment), calculation and
accounting, and the weakness of reason.
35 And she indicates women who have nobility, and marriage, every
pregnant woman, upbringing and its conditions, mothers, maternal
aunts, wet nurses, and older sisters; and messengers, the postal
service, reports, runaways, and lying and slander; [such a man is] a
king with kings, a slave with slaves, and with every man he is like his
nature; very forgetful, cowardly, without guile, cheerful towards
people, honored among them, [but then] cast out from them, not
concealing his secret.
[COMMENT]
Moon here shares some of the same group of attributes with Mercury -
religion, sciences, sorcerers, engineering. Sorcery here might connote
any magic that works on appearance since Moon has a lot to do with
appearance, what we might think of as hypnosis or illusion. Weakness
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The Moon - Abu Mashar
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The Moon - Al-Biruni
[COMMENT]
These are themes we have seen before - cold and moist, changeable.
For the taste think of seawater or the taste of blood - most human body
fluids are salty. Both of the lights, Moon and Sun, can be either benefic
or malefic depending on condition.
[COMMENT]
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The Moon - Al-Biruni
[COMMENT]
Much of this has to do with the Moon changing according to the other
planets it contacts.
[COMMENT]
CLASSES OF PEOPLE
[COMMENT]
This is interesting since it associates the Moon with what are usually
Solar sorts of connotations - royalty, fame, wealth. These associations
are not as common in the tradition as a whole. It could mean being
part of royal society.
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The Moon - Al-Biruni
Adherents of the prevailing religion. Man with javelin in his right hand,
in his left thirty, you would think there were three hundred, on his
head a crown, seated in a chariot drawn by four horses.
[COMMENT]
Again we see the Moon associated with Mercurial sorts of activities like
business, trade and accounting, and also various sciences. Many of the
other connotations have to do with food, luxury, nourishing, sensation
and physical enjoyment. Hair is mentioned as a part of the body that
grows very quickly.
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The Moon - William Ramesey
Moon Lady of the year, and strong in any Revolution, denotes there
shall be no want of rain in its due season, both former and latter; men
shall be generally healthy, fortunate, safe and punctual in all their
actions and promises, especially if she be in reception with her
dispositor, or good Aspects therewith, &c. but if she be weak and
unfortunate, you are to judge the contrary.
Of Trees and Plants: The Palm-tree, for that sends forth a twig every
time the Moon riseth, and all such trees and plants as participate or
sympathize with her, and are juicy and full of sap.
All Stones that are white and green, the Marchasite, the Crystal, the
Senenite, and soft stones.
Of Minerals, Silver.
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The Moon - William Ramesey
Of Beasts, such Beasts as use and delight in water, as the Otter, &c.,
and such as sympathize any wise with the Moon, as the Chameleon,
Dog, Hog, Frog, Hind, Goat, Baboon, Panther, Cat, the Civet Cat, all
monstrous beasts, Mice, Rats. Of the Baboons passions I forbear here
to speak, since you have had it related in the chapter (on the Sun),
being caused by the secret influence of Sol and Luna.
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The Moon - William Lilly
[HOUSE.] She hath the Sign Cancer for her house, and Capricorn for
her detriment; she is exalted in 3. Taurus, and hath her fall in 3.
Scorpio.
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The Moon - William Lilly
[HERBS, PLANTS AND TREES.] Those Herbs which are subject to the
Moon have soft and thick juicy leaves, of a waterish or a little sweetish
taste, they love to grow in watery places, and grow quickly into a juicy
magnitude; and are, The Colwort, Cabbage, Melon, Gourd, Pompion,
Onion, Mandrake, Poppy, Lettice, Rape, the Linden-tree, Mushrooms,
Endine, all Trees or Herbs who have round, shady, great spreading
Leaves, and are little Fruitful.
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The Moon - William Lilly
[BEASTS OR BIRDS.] All such Beasts, or the like, as live in the water;
as Frogs, the Otter, Snails, &c. the Weasel, the Cunny, all Sea Fowl,
Coockoo, Geese and Duck, the Night-Owl.
[FISHES.] The Oyster and Cockle, all Shell-fish, the Crab and Lobster,
Tortoise, Eels.
[MINERALS.] Silver.
[WEATHER.] With Saturn cold Air; with Jupiter Serene; with Mars
Winds red Clouds; with the Sun according to the Season; with Venus
and Mercury Showers and Winds.
[ANGEL.] Gabriel.
[DAY OF THE WEEK.] Her day is Monday the first hour and the eight,
after the rise of the Sun.
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The Moon - General Notes
"This divinity then has the relation of nature and of a mother with
respect to generation, or the sublunary region. For all things are
convolved and co-increased by her when she increases; but are
diminished when she diminishes. This Goddess, too, benevolently
leads into light the unapparent productive principles of nature. She
likewise gives perfection to souls through a life according to virtue; but
imparts to mortal animals a restitution of form."
The Moon is the opposite or partner of the Sun. The Moon is the lesser
light of night as the Sun is the greater light of day. When we consider
Vettius Valens and the other source texts, the key point is the fact that
the Moon's light is borrowed or reflected light from Sun; the Moon has
no light of its own. As the Sun is hot and dry, so the Moon is cold and
moist. After the Sun sets and it gets dark is when things cool off, and
moisture starts to condense out of the air. Much of the Moon's
meaning comes from its pairing with the Sun, and its having
complementary characteristics. It is dark, it is cold and wet, especially
wet, and it has only a cool reflected light. If the Sun is the King then the
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The Moon - General Notes
The Moon is associated with the physical life and the body. It indicates
people as physical beings. Since the Moon is physical life, the Moon is
the first place to check whenever you are dealing with health issues.
The Moon is the physical body while Sun is more like overall vitality
and energy. The Moon is also our mortality, life within the changeable
world where everything is born, grows, fades and dies like the Moon's
phases. Moon is also the mother, woman, who gives of her body to
create the physical bodies of her children. She rules anything to do
with birth or rearing, or with the woman's traditional role in
housekeeping. Being physical, the Moon also relates to possessions,
physical things we own. This is likely related to the fact that fortune
waxes and wanes like the Moon.
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Mercury - Source Texts
Mercury - Valens
Mercury makes weight lifters and mimes, those making their livelihood
with displays of skill, deception, gambling, or sleight of hand. It also
rules those skilled interpreters of the heavens, those who by using
pleasure or winning charm, earn fame for their amazing feats—all for
the sake of gain.
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Mercury - Valens
Of the parts of the body, it rules the hands, the shoulders, the fingers,
the joints, the belly, the sense of hearing, the arteries, the intestines,
the tongue. Of materials, it rules copper and all coins used in buying
and selling—for the god makes exchanges. …<It is blue in color, sharp
in taste.>
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Mercury - Valens
[TEXT] Mercury and the Moon are good with respect to the union
and status of men and women, with respect to the power of speech and
education, and concerning commerce and other enterprises. They
make men who act in common, who are resourceful, experienced,
inquisitive. They also cause men to advance by great expenditures, to
be very changeable, not persevering in their activities or intentions for
the future. <These men are> noble in the face of adversity, but are
subject to ups and downs in their livelihood.
[TEXT] Mercury and Mars are not good. They cause hostility,
lawsuits, reversals, malice, betrayals, wrongs from superiors or
inferiors. These stars make some men athletic, martial, commanding,
beneficent, inquisitive <of the occult>, getting a livelihood in a varied
manner. They resort to forgery in order to embezzle, steal, and loot,
and having fallen into debt and expenses, they bring on themselves
infamy and hot pursuit. If the configuration is afflicted, men meet with
accusations and imprisonment, and they suffer loss or confiscation of
goods.
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Mercury - Valens
[COMMENT] Mercury with Mars is bad, and brings out the unstable,
untrustworthy, sly and deceitful side of both planets.
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Mercury - Valens
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Mercury - Abu Mashar
23 As for Mercury, his nature inclines to the natures of the planets and
signs he combines with, [although] an equal balance of dryness and
coldness is in him.
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31 And he indicates cupping, and one working with razors and combs.
[COMMENT]
Mercury also has a craft side. There is skillfulness in language, but also
skillfulness with the hands.
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Mercury - Al-Biruni
Mercury - Al-Biruni
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Mercury - Al-Biruni
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Mercury - William Ramesey
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Mercury - William Ramesey
Of Stones: the Emerald, Agates, Red marble, Topaz, and such as are of
diverse colors, Millstone, Marchasite.
Of Fishes: the Trochius, the Fox-fish, the Mullet, the Pourcontrell, the
Fork-fish.
Of Beasts: the Dog, and such as are of quick sense, ingenious,
inconstant, swift, and such as are easily acquainted with man, Apes,
Foxes, Weasels, the Hart and Mule, the Hare, the Civet-cat, Squirrel,
Spider, the Hyena, &c.
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Mercury - William Lilly
[HOUSE.] He hath Gemini and Virgo for his Houses, and is exalted in
the 15. of Virgo: he receives detriment in Sagittarius and Pisces, his fall
is in Pisces.
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Mercury - William Lilly
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Mercury - William Lilly
[COLOURS AND SAVORS.] Mixed and new colors, the Gray mixed
with Sky-color, such as is on the Neck of the Stock-dove, Linsie-woolsie
colors, or consisting of many colors mixed in one. Of Savors an hodge-
podge of all things together, so that no one can give it any true name;
yet usually such as do quicken the Spirits, are subtle and penetrate,
and in a manner insensible.
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Mercury - William Lilly
Lungwort, Anniseeds, Cubebs, Marjoran. What herbs are used for the
Muses and Divination, as Vervine, the Reed; of Drugs, Treacle, Hiera,
Diambra.
[BEASTS.] The Hyaena, Ape, Fox, Squirrel, Weasel, the Spider, the
Grayhound, the Hermaphrodite, being partaker of both sexes; all
cunning creatures.
[BIRDS.] The Lynnet, the Parrot, the Popinian, the Swallow, the Pye,
the Beetle, Pifinires, Locusts, Bees, Serpent, the Crane.
[MINERALS.] Quicksilver.
[ORB.] His Orb is seven degrees before and after any aspect.
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Mercury - General Notes
Mercury is the most slippery, the most elusive planet, the most difficult
to pin down and get a handle on. Like quicksilver, Mercury is a shape
shifter. Mercury is also hermaphrodite, bisexual or non-sexual like
children, or switching sexes depending on its position. All of the other
planets come in pairs. There are two lights, two benefics, two malefics.
Mercury is the exception.
House-wise, Mercury has its Joy in the first house, where the
Ascendant is, right on the border of the horizon. The border is where
consciousness happens. Mercury is a mediator, a messenger, a trader,
exchanging across the border. Mercury is liminal, on a border, crossing
the border, and in some ways Mercury is related to the border itself.
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Mercury - General Notes
Mercury the messenger conveys news and information, but also convey
goods and services, so we see the association with commerce, business,
marketing, and money as a medium of exchange. Mercury is not so
much the goods themselves but the act of exchanging them and the
markets where the exchange takes place.
Mercury never gets very far from the Sun - its maximum distance is
around 29 degrees - so it spends a lot of time going in and out of
visibility. It also goes retrograde 3 or 4 times a year for around 3 weeks
at a time. Its movement is rapidly changing and very unstable. Mercury
conceals but also reveals, goes into and out of hiding, goes rapidly back
and forth. Given this closeness there is a connection between Mercury
and the Sun, and that leads to some overlap in their meaning. Mercury
is conveying what comes from the Sun, and there is a connection
between the Sun, consciousness and communication.
Like the Moon, another planet which is rapidly changing and unstable,
Mercury takes on the color of whatever planets most closely aspect it.
The two are rapidly changing in different ways. The Moon moves
rapidly in a single direction but has phases, waxing and waning.
Mercury's change consists of rapidly moving back and forth, frequently
changing directions, and also going behind the Sun and out of
visibility, then re-emerging on the other side, pausing and going back
the other directions. The Moon's phase movement is a waxing and
waning, Mercury's phase movement is an oscillation, more like a
pendulum.
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Mercury - General Notes
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Venus - Source Texts
Venus - Valens
Venus is desire and love. It indicates the mother and nurture. It makes
priesthoods, school superintendencies, high offices with the right to
wear a gold ring or a crown, cheerfulness, friendship, companionship,
the acquisition of property, the purchase of ornaments, agreements on
favorable terms, marriages, pure trades, fine voices, a taste for music,
sweet singing, beauty, painting, mixing of colors both in embroidery,
dyeing, and unguent making. <Venus makes> the inventors and
masters of these crafts, as well as craftsmanship or trade, and work in
emeralds, precious stones, and ivory. Within its terms and degrees in
the zodiac,
Of the parts of the body, it rules the neck, the face, the lips, the sense of
smell, the front parts from the feet to the head, the parts of
intercourse; of the inner parts it rules the lungs. It is a recipient of
support from others and of pleasure. Of materials it rules precious
stones and fancy jewelry. Of fruits it rules the olive. It is of the night
sect, white in color, very greasy in taste.
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Venus - Valens
[COMMENT]
Many of the main themes for Venus are related to beauty, to women
and to desire, including love and sex. There is an overlap with the
Moon here concerning women and their roles including nurture.
We also see an overlap with the other benefic Jupiter, and also with the
Sun since Venus is so close to the Sun. There is an association with
priesthood & high offices. Valens mentions the 'right to wear a gold
ring or crown', so there is an emphasis on jewelry, beauty and
decoration with the high office.
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Venus - Valens
[COMMENT] The good fortune and power of Jupiter mixes here with
the adornment and beauty of Venus. Jupiter's palaces just got prettier
and more gilded, more decorated. Interestingly there is the effect of
swings of fortune in the Venusian areas of marriage and children.
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Venus - Valens
Venus and the Moon are good with respect to rank, acquisitions,
and the inception of business, but they are unsteady with respect to
living together, friendships, and marriage, bringing rivalry and
hostility, as well as ill-treatment and upset from relatives and friends.
Likewise with respect to children and slaves, these stars are not good:
they cause possessions to be fleeting and bring mental anguish.
Venus and Mars are at odds. They make men unsteady and weak of
mind; they cause rivalry and murder; they cause men to have many
friends, but to be blameworthy, shameless, fickle, and equally prone to
intercourse with men or women; to be malicious, and plotters of
murder by poison. These stars cause men to remain with neither the
good nor the bad, to be slandered and reviled because of their
friendships, to be spendthrift, flitting from one occupation to another,
to be eager for many things, to be wronged by women and because of
them to suffer crises, upsets, and debts.
Venus and Mercury are in harmony. They make men sociable and
gracious, gregarious and hedonistic, paying attention to education and
sensibility, receiving honors and gifts. For those of mediocre fortune,
these stars bring about the receiving of goods, selling, and exchanges,
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Venus - Valens
and they bring a base livelihood. These stars make men unsteady and
fickle with respect to women, changeable in their agreements <with
them>.
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Venus - Abu Mashar
21 And she indicates a love for children and a love of people, and
showing love towards them, tranquility towards everyone, tolerance,
generosity, kindliness, liberality, freedom, a good character, beauty
and handsomeness, ingratiation, reception, brightness, splendor,
pleasantness of speech, the feminine, flirtation, passion, ridicule,
wishing good health, strength of the body (but weakness of the soul),
much flesh in bodies, an abundance of craving for everything, joy in
everything, making demands for every thing (being eager for it).
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[COMMENT]
Not surprisingly these attributes are mostly in line with what we saw in
Valens. There is a heavier emphasis in Abu Ma'shar on pleasure,
pastimes and indulgence, especially all varieties of sexual indulgence.
There is abundance as in Jupiter, but it is more about abundance of
pleasure and of beautiful or pleasant objects and pastimes. The
aesthetic quality predominates over the quality of just wealth as
abundance of money. Money and wealth show up with multiple
planets; we see Jupiter associated with good fortune including
financial fortune, and Mercury is related to everything to do with
money, commerce, trading, business, buying and selling, while Venus
relates to buying beautiful, decorative Venusian things.
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Venus - Al-Biruni
Venus - Al-Biruni
Venus is moderately cold and moist, especially the latter. The lesser
benefic. Female. Nocturnal. Fat and sweet flavor. Pure white tending to
straw color, shining, according to some greenish. Most pungent, most
agreeable and delicious, most beautiful, softest and ripest things.
BUILDINGS
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Venus - Al-Biruni
CLASSES OF PEOPLE
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Venus - William Ramesey
I come now to Venus, who is next under Sol; she is the lesser Fortune,
transparent, bright and shining; she is very well known by the Country
people by the name of the Evening Star, when she sets after the Sun;
and she is sometimes by them called the morning Star when she riseth
before the Sun, Feminine and Nocturnal. And again, by some she is
called the Shepherds Star.
All such herbs and plants as are odoriferous, pleasant, sweet and
delectable, and such as invite to Venery, viz., the Satyrian, Daffodil,
Cuckoo-Pintle, Maiden-hair, the Violet, Valerian, Vervin Thyme, the
Rose, Lilly, &c. All such spices as are fragrant and sweet, &c.
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Venus - William Ramesey
In Journeys, she causes good success, mirth, and sport by the way.
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Venus - William Lilly
[HOUSES.] She hath Taurus and Libra for her houses, she is exalted in
27 Pisces, she receiveth detriment In Aries and Scorpio, and hath her
fall In 27 Virgo.
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Venus - William Lilly
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Venus - William Lilly
[HERBS AND PLANTS.] Myrtle always green; all herbs which she
governeth have a sweet flavor, a pleasant smell; a white flower; of a
gentle humor, whose leaves are smooth and not jagged. She governeth
the Lilly white and yellow, and the Lilly of the Valley, and of the Water.
The Satyrion or Cuckoe-pintle, Maidenhair, Violet; the white and
yellow Daffadil.
[TREES.] Sweet Apples, the white Rose, the Fig, the white Sycamore;
wild Ash, Turpentine-tree, Olive, Sweet Oranges, Mugwort, Ladies-
mantle, Sanicle-Baim, Veryin, Walnuts, Almonds, Millet, Valerian,
Thyme, Ambre, Ladanum, Civet or Musk, Corriander, French Wheat,
Peaches, Apricots, Plums, Raisins.
[BEASTS.] The Hart, the Panther, small cattle, Coney, the Calf, the
Goat.
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Venus - William Lilly
[DAY OF THE WEEK.] Her day of the week Friday, of which she rules
the first and eighth hour; and in conception the first Month. Her
Friends are all the Planets except Saturn.
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Venus - General Notes
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Venus - General Notes
The connection of Venus with wealth, or with high offices and honors,
are minor themes that show up in Valens, the earliest writer, but don't
continue on into the later texts. By the time of Lilly they are mostly
gone. Venus as related to wealth is not a main emphasis as it is in
modern astrology. Regarding connection with wealth there is a lot of
overlap between planets; you see such references to wealth with
Saturn, Jupiter, the Sun, the Moon and also with Mercury.
Like all the planets, Venus has a positive and a negative side, and we
have just considered the highest, most benefic connection of Venus
with divinity. Where Venus becomes malefic and negative is where that
attraction becomes fixated or trapped in something lower, where
higher is sacrificed to lower than the other way around. Then love
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Sun - Source Texts
In a nativity the all-seeing sun, nature’s fire and intellectual light, the
organ of mental perception, indicates kingship, rule, intellect,
intelligence, beauty, motion, loftiness of fortune, the ordinance of the
gods, judgment, public reputation, action, authority over the masses,
the father, the master, friendship, noble personages, honors consisting
of pictures, statues, and garlands, high priesthoods, <rule over> one’s
country <and over> other places.
Of the parts of the body, the sun rules the head; of the sense organs, it
rules the right eye; of the trunk, it rules the heart; of the spiritual (i.e.
the perceptive) faculties, the nerves.
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Sun and Other Planets
Saturn and the Sun are at odds, giving and taking away possessions
and friendships maliciously. Therefore those born under such a
juncture suffer secret enmities and threats from great persons and are
plotted against by some and live hated to the end. Playing their part
well, they outlive most <of their enemies>. They are, however, not
without resources, but are disturbed and long-suffering. They are self-
controlled in this onslaught of reversals.
[COMMENT] Sun and Saturn are opposites in many ways. They rule
opposite signs, rule light and darkness, warmth and cold, life and
death. Saturn threatens and takes away everything the Sun bestows. In
a good way, Saturn adds duration and age, so you see references to
outliving enemies, being long-suffering, patient and self controlled.
Saturn and Sun gives problems and reversals, but also gives the
patience and endurance to deal with them
When Jupiter and the Sun are together, they produce noble and
distinguished men, rulers, governors, dictators, vigorous men, honored
and blessed by the crowd. These men are wealthy, rich, living with
much spectacle. Sometimes however they are involved in uncertainties
and hostility. Especially if the star <Jupiter> is found to be setting,
they resort to greater showiness and make a pretense of the truth.
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Mercury and the Sun make adaptable men with many friends, those
flexible and self-controlled men who spend their careers in public
places. These stars make pure, sensible men, men of good judgment,
lovers of beauty, learned men, initiates into divine matters, beneficent,
fond of their associates, independent, braggarts. These men endure
reversals nobly, but are ineffective, suffering ups and downs in their
livelihoods, experiencing vicissitudes. They are not poverty-stricken,
but find a success proportional to the basis of their nativities.
The Sun and the Moon are good. They are productive of associations
with the great and of high rank, as well as possession of estates,
property, money, and adornment. These stars cause men to be
successful in business enterprises and to receive profit. If the basis <of
the nativity> is found to be great, men become leaders of cities, in
charge of affairs, preeminent among the masses, gifted with a very high
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Sun - Abu Mashar
15 And he indicates the animal soul, light and glowing, the intellect,
knowledge, understanding, and the middle of the lifespan.
[COMMENT] Notice verse 17, how those close to the Sun are treated
badly and insulted, those far away are treated better. That is about the
Sun and combustion - people too close to the Sun get burnt. The Sun is
much more benefic when you are far enough from the rays that they
are moderated somewhat.
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Sun - Abu Mashar
Sun is the middle lifespan, the early mature years, since it is the middle
of the seven planets in the Chaldean order.
Here Sun shares some of the connections with religion that we see in
Jupiter, and shares the emphasis on knowledge with Mercury. With
Mercury it is knowledge from an active, rapidly moving mind, a kind of
commerce of ideas. With Sun it is knowledge as light, clarity,
understanding. The metaphor is different so the meaning is a bit
different.
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The Sun - Al-Biruni
Sun is hot and dry, the heat predominant. Maleficent when near,
beneficent at a distance. Male. Diurnal. Penetrating. Pungent, shining
reddish-yellow, its colour is said to be that of the lord of the hour. Most
expert, noble, well-known and generous things.
BUILDINGS
CLASSES OF PEOPLE
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The Sun - Al-Biruni
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The Sun - William Ramesey
[TEXT] We are by God's blessing come now to the Sun,... placed in the
midst of all the Planets, being the chief light and president of them all,
sitting as a Judge or King among his nobles; For as Saturn, Jupiter and
Mars are placed above his sphere, so are Venus, Mercury and Luna
beneath him; wherefore some of the Ancients have ascribed to him
chief rule, and made him, as it were, an Emperor among the Stars.
Saturn is his Vice-roy, for that all Planets give unto him their light, or
do homage and reverence unto him, by reason of his slowness.
[NOTE] Since Saturn is the slowest moving planets, all other planets
make aspects by applying to Saturn, and that is what Ramesey is
talking about here.
[TEXT] Jupiter hath assigned him chief rule and dominion in the
Realm, for that he is of a temperate, sober, good, honest and religious
inclination.
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When his is well dignified, the King and Nobles shall exceed and
increase in glory and renown; Corn, Beasts and Birds shall be plentiful;
the people generally prosperous and successful, and all things in good
condition, whereof the Sun hath any signification: All this is meant, if
he be Lord of the year in any annual Revolution; but if he be weak,
judge the contrary.
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The Sun - William Ramesey
Of Stones, Aetites, the stone called the eye of the Sun, because it is like
the apple of the eye in forms, the Carbuncle, the Chrysolate, the stone
called Iris, the stone Heliotropion, the Hyacinth, the stone Pyrophylus,
the stone Pantaurus, Pantherus or Pantochras, in the Scripture it is
called Evanthum; the Topaz, Ruby, Diamond.
The learned and most famous Cornelius Agrippa, Lib 1. Chap. 23 of his
Occulta Philosophia saith, that Albertus Magnus and William of Paris
gave to these stone these virtues as followeth.
Aetites, or the stone that is found in the Eagle's Nest, cureth the
Falling-sickness, and poisons.
The eye of the Sun, is singular good for comforting the brain, and
strengthening the eye-sight.
The Iris, it is like the Crystal in color, it commonly having six Corners;
it being part held in the shadow and part in the rays or beams of the
Sun, it gathereth the rays of the Sun unto itself, and reflecteth them
again in the form of a Rainbow.
The Heliotropion, is in color green like a Jasper, speckled with red; this
causeth the bearer to be constant, renowned, famous, and conduceth to
long life; it is said to turn the beams of the Sun into the color of blood,
viz., when it is joined to the juice of the herb of the same name and put
into water, it dazzleth the sight so much that the bearer can hardly see
it by the help of the aforesaid herb.
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The Sun - William Ramesey
Of Beasts, all such Beasts as are stately, furious, bold, strong and
invincible, as the Lion, Crocodile, Wolf, Ram, Boar, Bull, Horse, and
Baboon, of the which it is recorded, that he barketh every hour in the
day, viz. twelve times in a day, and that in the Equinoctial times of the
year he pisseth twelve times, viz, every hour, also as often in the night.
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The Sun - William Ramesey
passion; in like manner the Female at that time sendeth forth blood
out of her womb of Conception; for which cause the Egyptians signify
by a Baboon the Moon, and her rising by his standing upright, holding
his hands up toward heaven.
Of Places, Prince's Palaces, Courts, Houses, all magnificent Buildings,
Halls, Dining-rooms, Parlors &c.
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The Sun - William Lilly
[SOL.] The Sun is placed in the middle of all Planets, and is called
amongst the Ancients, both Poets and Historians, Sol, Titan, Ilioa,
Phebus, Apollo, Pean, Osyris, Diespiter: It’s needless to mention his
Colour, being so continually visible to all mortal men: He passeth
through all the twelve Signs of the Zodiac in one year, or 365 days and
certain hours:
[HOUSE.] He hath only the Sign of Leo for his House, and Aquarius for
his Detriment. He is Exalted in the 19 degree of Aries, and receives his
Fall in 19 Libra.
The Sun is always direct, and never can be said to be Retrograde, it’s
true, he moveth more slowly at one time then another.
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The Sun - William Lilly
[WHEN ILL DIGNIFIED.] Then the Solar man is Arrogant and Proud,
disdaining all men, cracking of his Pedigree, he is Pur-blind in Sight
and Judgment, restless, troublesome, domineering; a mere vapour,
expensive, foolish, endued with no gravity in words, or soberness in
Actions, a Spend-thrift, wasting his Patrimony, and hanging after an
other men's charity, yet thinks all men are bound to him, because a
Gentleman born.
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[HERBS AND PLANTS.] Those Plants which are subject to the Sun do
smell pleasantly, are of good flavor, their Flowers are yellow or
reddish, are in growth of Majestical form, they love open and Sunshine
places, their principal Virtue is to strengthen the Heart, and comfort
the Vitals, to clear the Eye-sight, resist Poison, or to dissolve any
Witchery, or Malignant Planetary Influences; and they are Saffron, the
Laurel, the Pomecitron, the Vine, Enula Campana, Saint johns-wort,
Amber, Musk, Ginger, Herb grace, Balm, Marigold, Rosemary,
Rosafolis, Cinnamon, Celendine, Eye-bright, Peony, Barley,
Cinquefoile, Spikenard, Lignum Aloes, Arsenic.
[BEASTS.] The Lion, the Horse, the Ram, the Crocodile, the Bull, Goat,
Night-worms or Glow-worms. [COMMENT - I wonder if glow-worms
are solar because they give light.]
[BIRDS.] The Eagle, the Cock, the Phoenix, Nightingale, Peacock, the
Swan, the Buzzard, the Slye Cantharis, the Goshawk.
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[WINDS.] He loves the East part of the World; and that wind which
proceeds from that quarter.
[ORB.] Is 15. degrees before any aspect; and so many after separation.
[ANGEL.] Michael.
[DAY OF THE WEEK.] He ruleth Sunday the first hour thereof, and
the eight; and in numbers the first and fourth; and in conceptions the
fourth month. His friends are all the Planets except Saturn, who is his
Enemy.
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The Sun - General Notes
Notice that there is nothing here about the Sun standing for you, the
person. That use of the Sun likely traces back to the Theosophist Alan
Leo, who started what we think of as Sun sign astrology around the
beginning of the twentieth century. In traditional astrology you look to
the rising sign and its ruler, and to planets in the first house, to
represent the person.
The Sun has less to do with identity and more with glory, honor and
power. In traditional astrology the Sun has much more to do with
public standing and reputation than it does with identity. The Sun
overall is related to honor, rulership, reputation, public standing,
ranking in society and government. Sun and Jupiter have some
similarities here, as do Sun and Mercury. Traditional astrology is not
centered on the individual human and their welfare; it is centered on
the society, the cosmos. Cosmos is from a Greek word meaning
something like city or political unit, and it has the same connotation as
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our modern word cosmopolitan. A person's natal chart has much more
do with how the person will fit in the overall order. Individual identity
is much less heavily emphasized. The universe in traditional astrology
does not revolve around the individual; it revolves around the King
who is the center of the collective whole. Recall the section from
William Ramesey where he speaks of the Sun as Emperor, and then
assigns each of the other planets a role within the King's realm.
The Sun in its daily and yearly movement defines the measure of time
for us; the measure of day and year would have no meaning without
the Sun. Because of that the Sun is also related to overall measure and
structure, and to cycles of time.
Like the other light, the Moon, the Sun can be either benefic or malefic
according to its overall condition. The Sun when benefic is the source
of warmth, light and life, and makes things grow. The Sun malefic can
burn, scorch, destroy, cause fires and droughts.
The Sun also has a connection with perception and understanding. The
Sun gives light, sheds light, and light has the connotations of
understanding, of consciousness, and of divinity. There is quite a bit of
overlap in meaning with Mercury in this area, and that makes sense
when you consider that Mercury stays so very close to the Sun, and is
continually crossing back and forth behind it.
Consider the quote from the Platonist writer Proclus at the start of this
section. In the Platonic tradition each of the planets of astrology exist
on multiple levels, and the physical planet is like the garment or vessel
of a divine being, a god on a higher spiritual level. The planets are not
just planets, they are divine expressions, and the gods work in our
world. This means that, along with the physical attributions of the Sun,
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In Platonic tradition the gods of the planets are at a high spiritual level
characterized by unity, by a oneness with the One and the Good that is
the underlying source of all. Because of this, any one of the gods can be
the one god, the expression of the one. Any one of the gods can connect
us to the highest divinity. While this is true of the gods in general, it is
particularly applicable to the Sun as the source of light and life. In that
sense, worshiping the Sun as the supreme God and Father of all is not
simple idolatry, glorifying a physical body in the sky. The Sun in that
sense is a window to the divine, so worshiping the Sun is a valid way to
connect to worshiping the one source of all. I find that meditations on
the Sun as an emblem of the One God can be very powerful and
immediate.
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Mars - Valens
Of the body parts, Mars rules the head, the seat, the genitals; of the
internal parts, it rules the blood, the sperm ducts, the bile, the
elimination of excrement, the parts in the rear, the back, and the
underside. It controls the hard and the abrupt. Of materials, it rules
iron, decoration of clothing (because of Aries), as well as wine and
beans. It is of the night sect, red in color and acid in taste.
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[COMMENT] Mars and Saturn are opposites and both are malefic, so
the combination is predictably violent and destructive. On the positive
side, if Saturn and Mars are well dignified - I suspect the sentence
should read, 'are in their own signs', rather than 'are not', which is why
I added the question mark - then the distinguished and noble nativities
could relate to respect or honor, but coming from power and force
rather than cooperation. Even the reference to noble nativities talks
about dangers and treachery - it might be respect, but it is based on
power, mutual hostility and distrust.
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[COMMENT] Combine Jupiter and Mars and you have people who are
powerful, respected, but also likely feared. The high honor comes from
Jupiter, the uncertainty and instability from Mars. By 'campaigns' I am
pretty sure he means military campaigns.
[TEXT] Venus and Mars are at odds. They make men unsteady and
weak of mind; they cause rivalry and murder; they cause men to have
many friends, but to be blameworthy, shameless, fickle, and equally
prone to intercourse with men or women; to be malicious, and plotters
of murder by poison. These stars cause men to remain with neither the
good nor the bad, to be slandered and reviled because of their
friendships, to be spendthrift, flitting from one occupation to another,
to be eager for many things, to be wronged by women and because of
them to suffer crises, upsets, and debts.
[TEXT] Mercury and Mars are not good. They cause hostility,
lawsuits, reversals, malice, betrayals, wrongs from superiors or
inferiors. These stars make some men athletic, martial, commanding,
beneficent, inquisitive <of the occult>, getting a livelihood in a varied
manner. They resort to forgery in order to embezzle, steal, and loot,
and having fallen into debt and expenses, they bring on themselves
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infamy and hot pursuit. If the configuration is afflicted, men meet with
accusations and imprisonment, and they suffer loss or confiscation of
goods.
Final note - in the Valens text that I have, in the section on the
combinations of two planets, there is no text on the combination of
Mars and the Moon.
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11 As for Mars, his nature is heating, drying, fiery, yellow bile, and its
taste bitter.
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jokes, liveliness,
the movement which happens at the time of a woman giving birth, the
labor pains of a pregnant woman, the death of women in pregnancy,
the cutting of a child in the womb, and the miscarriage of a fetus.
[COMMENT]
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Mars - Al-Biruni
Mars is extremely hot and dry. The lesser malefic. Male (some say
female). Nocturnal. Bitter. Dark red. Hot, hard, sharp and red things.
Length, dryness and coarseness. Waste, hard and stony land.
[COMMENT] All of this aligns with main themes we have seen. Land
that is hot and dry would be a stony wasteland. This is the only
instance I am aware of where Mars is said to possibly be female.
BUILDINGS
Brothers of middle age. Tall large head, small eyes and ears and fine
forehead, sharp grey eyes, good nose, thin lips, lank hair, reddish, long
fingers, long steps.
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CLASSES OF PEOPLE
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When he is Lord of the Year, strong and well placed, all such as belong
to arms, as soldiers, and the like, shall be fortunate and in good
condition, and shall overcome their enemies; there shall be also,
during that Revolution, sufficient and plenty of rain, and at such times
(and no other) as convenient and requisite; and the people shall be
prosperous and happy; but if he be weak, judge the contrary.
Herbs, all such herbs as are hot and dry, and such as have sharp-
pointed leaves, and are red, and usually grow on dry places and such as
are barren and hard stony places; the thistle, Devils-milk, brambles,
briers, nettles, onions, radish, mustard-seed, ginger, pepper, garlic,
hemlock, tamarind, horehound, leeks.
Birds, The Hawk, Kite, Raven, Vulture, Owl, Crow, Magpie and all
ravenous birds or birds of prey.
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Of Beasts, the Mastiff, Wolf, Tiger, Cockatrice, Panther, and all such
beasts as are ravenous and bold.
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He hath Aries for his Day-house, and Scorpio for his Night-house; he is
exalted in 28 degr. of Capricorn, and is depressed in 28 Cancer, he
receiveth detriment in Libra and Taurus; he is retrograde 80 days;
stationary before direction two days; after, but one day.
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[DISEASES.] The Gall, the left Ear, tertian Fevers, pestilent burning
Fevers, Migraines in the Head, Carbuncles, the Plague and all Plague-
sores, Burnings, Ring-worms, Blisters Phrensies, mad sudden
distempers in the Head, Yellow-jaundices, Bloody-flux, Fistulaes, all
Wounds and Diseases in mens Genitories, the Stone both in the Reins
(kidney) and Bladder, Scars or small Pocks in the Face, all hurts by
Iron, the Shingles, and such other Diseases as arise by abundance of
too much Choler, Anger or Passion.
[COLOUR AND SAVORS.] He delighteth in Red colour, or yellow, fiery
and shining like Saffron; and in those Savors which are bitter, sharp
and burn the Tongue; of Humors, Choler.
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[HERBS.] The Herbs which we attribute to Mars are such as come near
to a redness, whose leaves are pointed and sharp, whose taste is caustic
and burning, love to grow on dry places, are corrosive and penetrating
the Flesh and Bones with a most subtle heat: They are as followeth.
The Nettle, all manner of Thistles, Rest-harrow or Cammock, Devils-
milk or Petty spurge, the white and red Brambles, the white called
vulgarly by the Herbalists Ramme, Lingwort, Onion, Scommony,
Garlick, Mustard-seed, Pepper, Ginger, Leeks, Ditander, Hore-hound,
Hemlock, red Sanders, Tamarindes, all Herbs attracting or drawing
choler by Sympathy, Radish, Castoreum, Arsolarr, Assarum, Carduus,
Benedictus, Cantharides.
[FISHES.] The Pike, the Shark. the Barbel, the Fork-fish, all stinking
Worms, Scorpions.
[BIRDS.] The Hawk, the Vulture, the Kite or Glead, (all ravenous Fowl)
the Raven, Cormorant, the Owl, (some say the Eagle) the Crow, the
Pye.
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[ORB.] His Orb is only seven degrees before and after any of his
aspects.
[YEARS.] In man he governeth the flourishing time of Youth, and from
41 to 56.
[ANGEL.] Samael. His friends are only Venus; Enemies all the other
Planets.
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Mars - General Notes
Mars is associated with the faculty of anger, and anger here has a wider
connotation than our modern sense of the term. The faculty of anger
was thought to reside in the heart, between the gut or lower emotions
and appetites below, and the head or higher thoughts and guidance.
The faculty of anger includes a sense of courage, the willingness to be
able to stand up and fight for what is morally right.
The positive sides of Mars are the virtues of the warrior, the soldier.
There is strength, bravery, the ability to act decisively. It can relate to
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Many of the qualities now associated with the outer planet Uranus
would be better assigned traditionally to Mars. Mars can be the
outcast, the rebel, the revolutionary, the pioneer, bringing abrupt
change, shaking up the established order. Add in some of the qualities
of Mercury and you have covered pretty much all of the meanings of
Uranus.
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men being willing to serve as the warriors. As part of that, some people
were considered as born to be warriors, and a professional warrior
class is part of the ideal civilization presented by Plato in the Republic.
That is not a uniquely Western assumption; the great Hindu classic
that inspired Mohandas Gandhi, the Bhagavad-Gita, is a dialog
between the avatar Krishna, and Arjuna, who is of the kshatriya or
warrior class. The entire dialog takes place in the middle of a battlefield
right at the commencement of perhaps the most horrible and bloody
war in the Mahabharata, the long epic which is the setting of the Gita.
Arjuna was a professional warrior; that was his duty, and there is a
frequent refrain in the Gita of a set of instructions from Krishna ending
with the words, therefore fight, O Arjuna. The avatar Krishna isn't
there to make peace, he is there to assist Arjuna to fight and win.
Two of the earliest classic texts in the Greek tradition are the epic
poems by Homer, the Iliad and the Odyssey. Both are records of wars.
The planet Mars and his often violent characteristics are not a
temporary aberration; they are a basic part of our world order. That is
well worth thinking about, long and hard.
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Jupiter - Valens
Of the external body parts it rules the thighs and the feet.
(Consequently in the games Jupiter governs the race.) Of the internal
parts it rules the sperm, the uterus, the liver, the parts of the right side.
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Jupiter in Combination
When Saturn and Jupiter are together, they are in agreement with
each other, and they bring about benefits from legacies and adoptions,
and they cause men to be masters of property consisting of land, to be
guardians, managers of others’ property, stewards, and tax gatherers.
When Jupiter and the Sun are together, they produce noble and
distinguished men, rulers, governors, dictators, vigorous men, honored
and blessed by the crowd. These men are wealthy, rich, living with
much spectacle. Sometimes however they are involved in uncertainties
and hostility. Especially if the star <Jupiter> is found to be setting,
they resort to greater showiness and make a pretense of the truth.
Jupiter and the Moon are good, acquisitive: they cause men to be
masters of adornments and slaves, and they bestow distinguished
offices and ranks. They cause men to benefit from women and
distinguished individuals, to be treated well by family and children,
and to be thought worthy of gifts and honors. They make treasurers,
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men who lend much, who are trusted, and who find treasures and
become wealthy.
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9 And he indicates prosperity, success, defeat for all who resist him,
dignity, leadership, authority, kings, the nobles and the mighty, the
greatness of [one’s] good luck, comfort and delight, desire for assets
and collecting them as well as exploiting them for profit, riches and the
goodness of [one’s] condition in luxury and wealth, and his spirit will
be lucky in every matter, and [his] character good, [and it indicates]
charitable giving, generosity, granting, being open-handed (as well as
boasting [about it]), being unrestrained [in his] soul, sincerity of
affection, a love of leadership over the people of cities, and a love of
those having importance as well as great people, and an inclination
towards them, and assisting the people in things.
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love of the good and hatred of evil, making peace between people,
commanding what is beneficial and forbidding what is detestable.
[COMMENT]
This verse also includes enjoyment in large and lavish ways, indulging
in fun and pleasurable activities including an abundance of sex.
As we saw before, there is the moral side of Jupiter, siding with moral
and religious law and righteousness, hence love of good and hatred of
evil. Jupiter harmonizes and brings together, so being peacemaker is
included.
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Jupiter - Al-Biruni
BUILDINGS
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[COMMENT] Along with the good moral qualities we again see the
possibility of recklessness, getting carried away, not taking things
seriously. This is Jupiter's expansiveness out of balance.
CLASSES OF PEOPLE
Kings, viziers, nobles, lawyers, magnates, merchants, the rich and their
sycophants.
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Jupiter when he is Lord of the year and well dignified, the King shall do
Justice, and it shall be happy for those that are Noblemen, Judges,
Councellors of the Law, and men of all sorts of religious orders shall be
in a successful, happy, pleasant and good condition, and shall live
pleasantly and contentedly, in honor, and also great esteem; and the
people shall also be in a good and prosperous condition, and shall
receive good from the King and Superiors, and they from the people,
and the year shall be healthy, plentiful and good, a temperate air, rain,
fair weather, and frost in due season, &c.
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Of Beasts, the Sheep, Unicorn, Doe, Hart, Stag, Ox, Elephant, and all
such beasts as are beneficial and useful to mankind.
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[HOUSES.] He hath two of the twelve Signs of the Zodiac for his
houses, viz. Sagittarius his Day-house, and Pisces his Night-house. He
receives Detriment in Gemini and Virgo. He is Exalted in Cancer, hath
his Fall in Capricorn.
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[BEASTS.] The Sheep, the Heart or Stag, the Doe, the Ox, Elephant,
Dragon, Tyger, Unicorn, those Beasts which are Mild and Gentle, and
yet of great benefit to Mankind, are appropriate to him.
[BIRDS.] The Stork, the Snipe, the Lark, the Eagle, the Stock-dove, the
Partridge, Bees, Pheasant, Peacock, the Hen.
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[ORB.] His Radiation or Orb, is nine degrees before and after any of
his aspect.
[GENERATION.] He governeth the second and tenth month; his
proper seat in man is the Liver; and in the Elements he ruleth the Air.
[ANGEL.] Zadkiel.
[DAY OF THE WEEK.] Thursday, and rules the first hour after Sun
rise, and the eighth; the length of the Planetary hour you must know by
the rising of the Sun, and a Table hereafter following.
All Planets except Mars are friends to Jupiter. In gathering any Herb
appropriate to Jupiter, see that he be very powerful either in Essential
or Accidental Dignities, and the Moon in some manner in good aspect
with him, and if possible, let her be in some of his Dignities, &c.
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Jupiter - General Notes
Jupiter is the planet just below Saturn. Along with the Sun they are the
largest planets, so each of them has an association with rulership,
power, control. In the mythology as it was interpreted by Plato, Proclus
and others in the Platonic tradition, Jupiter or Zeus is the Demiurge,
the creator or architect god who formed the manifest universe along
the lines of patterns revealed from higher levels through Saturn.
Jupiter is also referred to as a fabricator, working with existing
materials to shape and order them. In terms of the planetary
mythology you can think of Saturn as giving creator and architect
Jupiter the laws and patterns that Jupiter looks to as the template for
his work.
This means that Jupiter is not just expansion but creation, giving
order, bringing things together to make a harmonious whole. This is
not creation out of nothing, but rather creation as giving shape, order,
form and harmony. Given that context, Jupiter as expansion, creation
and rulership all connect conceptually. Jupiter creates and sustains a
benevolent order. Jupiter is associated with Kings, with creation, and
with controlling, ruling and directing, and also with law.
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Being a benefic and concerned with harmonious order, Jupiter also has
associations with grace and beauty, but not quite in the same way as
the other benefic Venus. Venus is more about beauty, harmony and
grace for its own sake, while with Jupiter has connotations of luxury,
wealth, abundance which goes with his powers of creation and
expansion. There is a largeness and sometimes an ostentatiousness to
Jupiter that you do not have with Venus.
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The comments in this section are more extensive than in the earlier
sections of this book, especially the General Notes section. I find
Saturn to be among the most interesting and complex of the planets,
and it has a particular fascination for me. In that General Notes
chapter for this section I am also casting a wider net, and spending
time on the overall context of traditional astrology. That chapter
touches on themes that apply to traditional astrology in ways that are
wider than the specific planet Saturn.
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Saturn - Valens
Saturn makes those born under him petty, malignant, care-worn, self-
depreciating, solitary, deceitful, secretive in their trickery, strict,
downcast, with a hypocritical air, squalid, black-clad, importunate,
sad-looking, miserable, with a nautical bent, plying waterside trades.
Saturn also causes humblings, sluggishness, unemployment, obstacles
in business, interminable lawsuits, subversion of business, secrets,
imprisonment, chains, griefs, accusations, tears, bereavement, capture,
exposures of children.
Saturn makes serfs and farmers because of its rule over the land, and it
causes men to be renters of property, tax farmers, and violent in action.
It puts into one’s hands great ranks and distinguished positions,
supervisions, management of others’ property, and the fathership of
others’ children.
Of materials, it rules lead, wood, and stone. Of the limbs of the body, it
rules the legs, the knees, the tendons, the lymph, the phlegm, the
bladder, the kidneys, and the internal, hidden organs. Saturn is
indicative of injuries arising from cold and moisture, such as dropsy,
neuralgia, gout, cough, dysentery, hernia, spasms. It is indicative of
these syndromes: possession, homosexuality, and depravity. Saturn
makes bachelors and widows, bereavements, and childlessness. It
causes violent deaths by water, strangulation, imprisonment, or
dysentery. It also causes falling on the face. It is the star of Nemesis; it
is of the day sect. It is like castor in color and astringent in taste.
[COMMENT]
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color black, and with bad fortune. Another cluster of meanings relates
to deceiving, hiding, tricking or being hypocritical. If you think of being
in the light as honest, then being in the darkness of Saturn is deceiving,
hiding, dishonest.
This section includes problems, bad fortunes, death and events that
block or limit. There are connections with things that take a long time
or stretch on, and connections with secrecy, things that are hidden or
in the dark.
We see the connection of Saturn with land, with what is hard and
physical. This includes people who work with the land, as renters, as
servants or as owner.
All of these Saturn associations are bad fortune related to death, and
again the association with water.
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matters and money. On the other hand, these stars make men who are
not without resources and not unintelligent, with much experience and
awareness, and who are curious, far-seeing scholars, seekers after
mystic lore, revering the gods, but with much on their consciences.
[COMMENT] Combining Saturn with Mercury's rulership of
commerce and we get control of money. Mercury is also associated
with learning, which combines with Saturn to give depth, profundity, a
mystic side, a researcher into hidden truths. Overall Saturn and
Mercury together is seen as a positive combination.
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[TEXT] Saturn and the Sun are at odds, giving and taking away
possessions and friendships maliciously. Therefore those born under
such a juncture suffer secret enmities and threats from great persons
and are plotted against by some and live hated to the end. Playing their
part well, they outlive most of their enemies. They are, however, not
without resources, but are disturbed and long-suffering. They are self-
controlled in this onslaught of reversals.
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3 As for Saturn, his nature is cooling, drying, black bile, dark, harsh in
coarseness; but sometimes it is cooling [and] moist, heavy, stinking air.
5 And he indicates old men, and the weighty (among people), fear,
hardships, anxieties, sorrows, dejection, confusion, complications,
difficulty, adversity, restriction, the ancestors, the dead, inheritances,
lamentation, orphanhood, old things, grandfathers, fathers, older
brothers, slaves, stable workers, misers, people who have a bad
reputation, disgraced people, robbers, gravediggers, murdaqshes,
body-snatchers, tanners, people who make things faulty, sorcerers,
masters of social unrest, the riffraff, eunuchs, long thought but little
speech, the knowledge of secrets (and no one knows what is in his soul,
nor does he disclose it to [anyone]), being acquainted with every
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abstruse matter, and it indicates leading an ascetic life and the devout
people of religious communities.
[COMMENT]
Here we have the primary association of Saturn with dark and cold.
Sometimes Saturn is cold and dry, sometimes cold and moist. Saturn is
stinking as in something unpleasant or poisonous or rotting. Things
which are rotting or decay are in the process of dying, and Saturn is
associated with death.
Saturn relates to earth, and people who work the earth, and earth near
water, so again we see the connection with moisture. The connection
with measuring associates with limiting, dividing, delimiting or setting
boundaries or frameworks.
We also see more connections with Saturn as clever, wise, crafty, action
that is not overt and blunt but covert, in the darkness, hidden.
There are positive traits that can come with age here, qualities like
perseverance and experience. We also have the wisdom that comes
with age. This is Saturn as profundity, as deep rather than shallow.
Saturn is deep in multiple senses of the term. We also have Saturn as
hidden, taciturn, withdrawn, quiet, secretive. Saturnian religious traits
are severe, self-limiting, and monastic. Saturn when reliable is truth
and wisdom, Saturn when unreliable is falsehood, craftiness and
deception.
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Saturn - Al-Biruni
[COMMENT] These associations are mainly from the cold dry humors,
and associations with darkness and rotting.
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[COMMENT] The ways listed here that Saturn gains wealth and
control are negative - deception, violence, treachery.
[COMMENT] Here are associations with land, or again land and water
together, with death, and with lowly people. Again we see the
connection with corrupt motives; Saturn is a corrupt or oppressive or
evil ruler who causes pain and malice.
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[TEXT] Saturn well fortified, and Lord of the year in any annual
revolution, signifies that the people shall that year, or during that
revolution, build and erect houses; shall make many alterations in
Fabrics, and shall abound in all things: the earth shall be fruitful, and
the people shall be in esteem and honor with all their neighbors; the
husbandman shall exceedingly increase his store and wealth, and be
successful in his labors
[NOTE] Fabrics is used in a wider sense here, not just as cloth, but as
things which are fabricated or constructed, hence different kinds of
physical structures that last.
[TEXT] But if Saturn be Lord of the year and weak, there shall be much
cold during that Revolution, great and grievous infirmities, and men
shall sustain much sorrow, losses and crosses, and great damage by
storms, wind and rain... and old men and women shall die.
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Stones subject to him are the Sapphire, Lapis Lazuli, or that stone of
which Azure is made, unpolished black and bluish stones.
Beasts, the Ass, Cat, Hare, Mouse, Mole, Dog, Wolf, Bear, Elephant,
Basilisk, Crocodile, Scorpion, Serpent, Adder, Toad, Hog, all manner of
creeping creatures breeding in putrefaction.
[NOTE] Sinks refers to holes in the earth with water, and not just our
household fixture.
[TEXT] Weather, cloudy, dark, obscure air, cold and hurtful, thick,
black and condense clouds.
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[MOTION] Finishing his Course through the twelve signs of the Zodiac
in 29 years, 157 days, or thereabouts; his middle motion is two minutes
and one second; his diurnal motion sometimes is three, four, five, or
six minutes, or seldom more.
[HOUSES] In the Zodiac he hath two of the twelve Signs for his
Houses, viz. Capricorn his Night-house, Aquarius his Day-house; he
has his Exaltation in Libra, he receives his Fall in Aries; he rejoiceth in
the sign Aquarius.
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[CORPORATURE] Most part his Body more cold and dry, of a middle
stature; his complexion pale, swartish or muddy, his Eyes little and
black, looking downward, a broad Forehead, black or sad Hair, and it
hard or rugged, great Ears; hanging, lowring Eye-brows, thick Lips and
Nose, a rare or thin Beard, a lumpish, unpleasant Countenance, either
holding his Head forward or stooping, his Shoulders broad and large,
and many times crooked, his Belly somewhat short and lank, his
Thighs spare; lean and not long; his Knees and Feet indecent, many
times shoveling or hitting one against another, &c.
[OCCIDENTAL] The man is more black and lean, and fewer Hairs; and
again, if he want latitude, the body is more lean, if he have great
latitude, the body is more fat or fleshy; if the latitude be Meridionall or
South, more fleshy, but quick in motion. If the latitude be North, hairy
and much flesh.
Saturn in his first station, a little fat. In his second station, fat, ill
favoured Bodies, and weak; and this observe constantly in all the other
Planets.
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[BEASTS, &c.] The Ass, Cat Hare, Mouse, Mole, Elephant, Bear, Dog,
Wolf, Basilisk, Crocodile, Scorpion, Toad, Serpent, Adder, Hog, all
manner of creeping Creatures breeding of putrification, either in the
Earth, Water or Ruins of Houses.
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[ORB.] His Orb is nine degrees before and after; that is, his influence
begins to work, when either he applies, or any Planet applies to him,
and is within nine degrees of his aspect, and from that aspect.
His friends are Jupiter, Sun and Mercury, his enemies Mars and
Venus. We call Saturday his day, for then he begins to rule at Sun rise,
and ruleth the first hour and eighth of that day.
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A lot of the meanings of Saturn come from its opposition to the lights,
primarily the Sun, but also the Moon. The cluster of meanings for
Saturn come from its position in the Thema Mundi and the primary
aspect of opposition in that diagram. There is a geometrical
underpinning to the meanings of the planet. If we take a table of
opposites and put the Sun in one column across from Saturn, we see
several of the most important dimensions of Saturn's meaning.
Sun Saturn
light dark
day night
summer winter
revealed concealed
high low
height depth
Both Sun and Moon are related to physical vitality, and Saturn is
opposite both. Some meanings are from the opposition aspect itself -
whatever blocks, delays, opposes.
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There are several other core principles that are derived from the
physical characteristics of the planet and its location in the traditional
cosmos. Some of the meanings come from Saturn being the planet
furthest from the heat of the Sun, thus the extreme of cold and of dark.
Saturn being the coldest, darkest and most distant planet is related to
the opposition aspect and its place opposite the lights in Thema
Mundi.
Combine age plus cold plus damp and you get associations with
decaying, rotting, unhealthy, diseased, dying. Some of the other
meanings come from Saturn being the slowest moving planet, hence
associated with things that take a long time, move slowly, or are
associated with age.
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Time - Many of the meanings come from Saturn's being on the border
of eternity and time. Hence Saturn is associated with the passage of
time. This has other related themes.
• Old age, which is the effect of time, and an age where you are
very aware of time. In turn, Saturn is also associated with the
elders, the aged, and with previous generations.
• The wisdom of old age, when you have the perspective on cycles
that comes from time passage.
• Saturn and suffering can relate to moral law, and then you get
suffering well, or enduring suffering for others.
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• Law plus age gives tradition passed down. Thus, for instance,
Saturn strong in the ninth house can indicate interest in
traditional philosophy and astrology.
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Here are other meanings of Saturn, with some thoughts as to how they
were derived from the core meanings we looked at.
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aren't quite the same thing, and we will look at those concepts in more
detail in a later essay.
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Conclusion - Going Further
Source Texts
The first and most obvious place to go is to the full source texts which
are excerpted in this book. I recommend all of them, and there is full
information on them in the bibliography. If you do nothing else, I very
strongly urge you to get hold of a copy of William Lilly's Christian
Astrology. I particularly like the two volume edition edited by the
late David Roell and published by Astrology Classics. You will live with
and learn from that book for all of the rest of your astrology career.
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For advanced students and the Truly Ambitious, Ben Dykes plans to
release his course in Traditional Astrology in the second half of 2020.
See his site, https://BenDykes.com for details.
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Bibliography
Bibliography
Abu Ma'shar, The Great Introduction, translated by Dykes, Benjamin
N. PhD. D. Minneapolis, Cazimi Press, Forthcoming 2020.
Lilly, William, Christian Astrology. Edited by David Roell, Bel Air MD,
Astrology Classics, 2004.
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Bibliography
(Note that all of my books listed above are available in pdf download
form at my website, https://studentofastrology.com.)
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