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THE PEACE CONFERENCE OF LAUSANNE, 1922-1923
JOSEPH C. GREW
(Read November12, 1953)
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2 JOSEPH C. GREW [PROC. AMER. PHIL. SOC.
My own recollectionstake the formof a series the ground was laid for futurehealthydevelop-
of cliches. Far back, in 1905, I attended,as a ment.
visitor,the Selamlik,and saw the Sultan Abdul To go back to the originsof the Lausanne Con-
Hamniddrive throughthe narrowstreetsof Con- ference,thereoccurred,duringthe war, the Brit-
stantinopleto attendthe Friday rites. Pictures- ish invasionof Gallipoli. If myhistoryis correct,
quenessand beautyweretherein fullmeasure,the the BritishCommandingGeneral,afterhis troops
fascinationof the mosques and bazaars in old had swarmedashoreon the beaches,allowed them
Stambul,the perenniallovelinessof the Bosporus. some twenty-four hoursto wash theirclothesand
How keenlyI rememberthe five summerslater rest, before proceedingto the attack. At that
spenton that ineffably beautifulwaterway. But criticalmoment,the storyhas it,and I believethe
in those days of the OttomanEmpire,it was not storvis accurate,the Turkishline across the Gal-
the beautyof a freesociety. The Turkishpeople lipoli peninsulahad in its centera dangerousun-
were stillin shackles. filledgap throughwhichany invadingarmycould
Then came theFirstWorld War and eventually have poured. This situationwas reportedto the
the Lausanne Conference. Afterthe Allies had German General, Liman von Sanders, in com-
completedtheirpeace treaty,GeneralIsmet Pasha mand of the defenseof Constantinople,louthis
and I sat down at a small table and together ordersappear to have been delayed. And thenit
negotiated a treaty between Turkey and the was that a comparatively youngTurkish Colonel
United States. on his own initiativehimselfgave the orderto fill
It was a good treaty,fromboth the American the gap and moved his regimentinto the unfilled
and the Turkishpointsof view. Even today,that area to completethe Turkish line. WNhen the
treaty,althoughit is now as dead as a door-nail, Allies arrivedthe next day, it was too late. The
is commemorated by a bronzeplaque in the Beau gal) had been filled. Those twenty-four hours of
Rivage Hotel at Ouchy, Lausanne. In some re- rest and clothes-washinghad been fatal to the
spects,indeed,it was morefavorableto American attack. Perhaps I need hardlysay thatthe name
interestseven than the treatynegotiatedby the of the TurkishColonelwho had takenthe respon-
Allies was to their interestsbecause I simply sibilityand given the commandto fillthe line of
outsatGeneralIsmet. I broughtit hometo Wash- defense was Mustapha Kemal, later President
ington,well pleased and expectingthe accolade Kemal Atatuirk,the George Washingtonof the
"WNell done thougood and faithful servant." But, TurkishRepublic.
alas, alas, domestic politics intervened. There I will not take up your time by a detailedac-
were stillin our countryelementswhichwere dis- countof the developments of the next fouryears.
satisfiedthatI had notbeenable to pull impossible Sufficeit to say that in the Armisticeof Mudros
rabbitsfromimpossiblehats. I was openly ac- in 1918, afterTurkev had capitulated,and in the
ctusedin the lUnitedStates Senate of havingsold grim Peace Treatyof Sevres in 1920.Turkey,with
nmy- nation'sbirthright fora imessof pottage. The two governmentsfunctioning, one in Constanti-
Americans of Armenian origin in the United nople and the otherin Angora,was reducedto a
States wantedto obtainall of Armeniaas a sort helpless fractionof its formerself. The Allies,
of independentfatherland. The debate in the beingbusywithotherthings,thenapparentlyfor-
Senate was close butmytreatywas finallydefeated got all about Turkeyand overlookedthe factthat
bv six votes. Then, a fewyears later,I was sent the Sultan had refusedto ratifythe Treaty of
as the firstAmerican Ambassador to the new Se'vres and that the nationalists had simiply re-
TurkishRepublicto negotiatea new treaty. 1)tldiatedit. Thus Turkey and the Allies were
Ah, but timeshad changedthen. By thattime still at war.
the Turks were ridinghigh. My new treatywas In the meantime, the Greeks, incited largely by
duly negotiatedin Angora. By that time the Lloyd George, had in 1919 invaded Anatolia and
Armeniansin our countryhad shot their bolt, destroyed Smyrna. But the Turks, magnificent
and, while this second treatywas not one-halfas fightersthat they were, led by Mustapha Kemal
favorableto Americaninterestsas the firstone, and General Ismet Pasha, drove the Greeks from
it I)assed the Senate viva voce withouteven a tal- Asia Minor in September, 1922, and the Armistice
lied vote. Such are politics!But I was satisfied. of Mudanva was signed on October 11, 1922. by
The relationsbetween Turkey and the United which Turkey retained all of Anatolia and Eastern
States were thenon a firmtreatvfoundationand Thrace. It was in that situation ain(l atmosphere
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VOL. 98 NO. 1, 1954] THE PEACE CONFERENCE AT LAUSANNE 3
that the Lausanne Conferencewas called in the me the story,said he found Mussolini quietly
autumnof 1922. By thenthe Turks were fullof readingin his roomand, whenhe told himthathe
confidence, as theyhad good reason to be. Some was twentyminuteslate forhis appointmentand
of the Allies failedto recognizethe great change that the two other statesmenwere waiting for
thathad comeaboutin TurkeysincetheArmistice him,Mussolinisaid: "Oh! they'rethere,are they?
of Mudros and the Treaty of Sevres. They Very well, I'll come." On anotheroccasion, he
pounded the conferencetable and demandedone senta representative to Lord Curzon to announce
concessionafter another. General Ismet Pasha thathe woulddinewithhimthatevening. Curzon
sat quietlyand simplysaid "no" to almostevery- sentback wordthathe wouldbe veryglad to have
thing. He was in the driver'sseat and knew it. Mussolinidine withhim at 8 :30. The messenger
The Allies had no stomachto fightso soon again. remarkedthat he was sorrythat he had instruc-
Today a strongTurkeystandsout as a forcefor tionsto say thatMussoliniwould dine withLord
stabilityin the Eastern Mediterraneanarea. This Curzon at 7:30. Curzon threwup his arms in
is a Turkey determinedto maintainits national despairand agreed to splitthe difference and call
integrity, to co- it 8 :00. But quiteapartfromtheselittleby-plays,
but mindfulof its responsibilities
operatewithotherfreedom-loving nationsto cre- I was deeply impressedby Mussolini's quiet re-
ate the kind of world in whichit can surviveas servedforceand thegreatpowerofhis personality.
a free nation and proceed with its national A storyis told that when Claire Sheridan,the
development. authoressand sculptress,turnedup at Lausanne,
The announcement in 1945 by PresidentIn6nii Mussolinijokinglyinvitedher to come to see him
that new politicalpartiesto supersedethe single in Rome and thatshe promptlyacceptedthe sug-
Governmentpartywould be permittedin Turkey gestion,traveledby thesame trainand tookrooms
was a tangibleindicationof the consolidationof in the hotelwherehe was staying. Mussolinistill
the Republic. In recent years, the multi-party regardedthe matteras a joke untilthe day after
systemhas come to be recognizedas a permanent their arrival several men appeared at his room
featureof Turkishpoliticallife. While unitedon withmanypails of plaster,boards,nails,etc.,and
foreignpolicy,the various partiesare expressing whenhe asked what in thundertheywere for,he
themselvesopenly in the Grand National As- was informedthat Mrs. Sheridan was about to
sembly,in thepressand in publicmeetings,on the make a bust of him. Mussolini forciblyput the
differenceswhich separate them in internalaf- men to flightand is said to have writtenMrs.
fairs. They, as well as the Turkishpeople,have Sheridana letterin whichhe refusedpositivelyto
been gaining valuable experience in democratic be sculped adding that busts were made only of
processes,learningthe necessityof gettingalong dead men and thathe himselfwas stillverymuch
with each other, even though holding opposing alive.
views, in such a way as to promoteratherthan There was the late Mr. Stamboliski,the Prime
endangerthe national security. The world will Ministerof Bulgaria,hairy,enormous,withfierce
watch withgreat interestfurtherevidenceof the upturnedmoustaches,looking far more like a
maturityof the Turkishpeople. brigandthan a statesman,sittingstolidlyat the
THE LAUSANNE CONFERENCE conference tablewithhis secretary, Mlle Stancioff,
of the Bulgarian diplomaticservice,just behind
At the verybeginninginterest,of course,cen-
himinterpreting his wordsand, I imagine,also his
teredon Mussolini,the new hero,untriedand un-
thoughts, because fora halfdozen wordsfromher
known. He himselfevidentlyhad a view to the
chiefMiss Stancioffwould talk perfectFrenchor
dramaticand was anxious to impressthe people
perfectEnglish for ten or fifteenminutes. She
at home with his independenceamong foreign
was wittyand had manypassages of armswiththe
statesmen. Instead of coming straight to
Lausanne, he stopped at Territet and made other delegates. One day, when pleading for
Poincare and Lord Curzoficometo see himthere. Bulgaria's outletto the sea, she said to Venizelos
In the course of the eveninghe agreed to meet "How can you, with your hundredsof harbors,
themin Lord Curzon'sroomat Lausanne thenext object to the legitimatedesiresof poor littleBul-
morningpunctuallyat teno'clock. At 10:20, after garia, whichhas but threemiserableportson the
Poincareand Curzonhad fumedup and down the Black Sea?" Venizelos, as quick as a flash,re-
roomwaitingforhim,theysenta secretaryto see plied "God put Greece in the middleof the sea;
what was the matter. The Secretary,who told it is not myfault!"
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Turkey deed to England the ground where the I mentioned Signor Montagna, the second
Britishdead lay buriedat Gallipoli,and Ismet re- Italian delegate,as one of the outstandingfigures
marked that there was no precedentfor such of the conferencebecause he understoodthe men-
actionin history,Curzon immediately repliedthat talityof the Turk and the propermethodof deal-
the BritishGovernmenthad deeded to France in ing withhim betterthanany otherdelegate; and,
perpetuity the house and groundwherethe Great not onlydid he bringtheworkof his sub-commit-
Napoleon died on the Island of St. Helena and tees to a satisfactory conclusionwhile othercom-
thattheFrenchflagperpetually flewfromthestaff mitteeswere stilldeep in acrid debate,but at the
of the building. criticalmomentsof the conferenceit was always
As to Venizelos,he was the fire-brand through- he who, in a quiet and unobtrusivemanner,man-
out and, althoughoftenillogical and frequently aged to smoothmattersover by his sensibleand
inaccuratein his argumentsand remarks,every- conciliatory tactics. At the end of the conference,
one paid attentionwhenhe spoke. He would be- after Montagna had, in my opinion contributed
gin gentlyand in a soft ingratiatingvoice, but more than any otherdelegatetoward reachinga
little by little would work himselfinto a fury, finalagreement,old Marquis Garroniinsistedon
bellowat the top of his lungsand wildlywave his comingup fromRome to sign for Italy,although
arms in the air, which,as I was seated next to he was the onlyone of the originalfirstdelegates
him, was not always conducive to my personal to do this. And thus Montagnawas deprivedof
comfort. On one occasion during one of these theprestige,if it could be regardedas such,which
transports offurytheChairmansaid "I beg ofyou he had earned by indefatigablework. In the
Mr. Venizelos to be tranquil." Whereup Mr. darkest hours of the conferenceMontagna was
Venizelosbeat thetablewithhis fistsin redoubled always optimistic,and I am convincedthat on
violenceand shoutedat thetop of his lungs"I am morethanone occasionhe personallypreventeda
tranquil,I am tranquil." Riza Nour Bey, the rupture.
Turk, then turnedthe solo into a duet and pro- As for Ismet Pasha, my opinionof him under-
ceeded to shout at Venizelos across the table. went several changes during the course of the
Montagna,the Chairman,pounded on the table conference,but my finaljudgmentis that,while
withbothfiststryingto restoreorder,but finding lackingany of the adaptabilityor finesseof his
it impossiblehe declaredthe meetingadjourned. opponents,he played a straightand honestgame
This howeverhad no effecton Venizelos who had throughout.He was oftenaccused of givinghis
worked himselfinto a frenzy. Indeed his pas- word and then withdrawingit, but it must be
sionateduels across the tablewithRiza Nour Bey remembered thathe was continuallysubjectto in-
were the delightof the conference. structionsfromAngora,whichI have everyrea-
One day a dramaticincidentwas provokedwhen son to believewere frequently more intransigeant
Tchitcherinesaid he hoped Rumania would be thanhe himselfwishedto be, and, at least in our
carefuland not allow herselfto get into the posi- own negotiations,when, from time to time, he
tion of Greece whichhad sufferedso severelyat tentativelyaccepted a certain formula or pro-
the hands of the Turks. Venizelos immediately visionforour treatyand laterwithdrewhis agree-
challengedhimsayingthatit was notcustomaryat ment,he alwaysmade it clearin advancethatthese
such international conferences to make crypticre- provisionalagreementswere subject to instruc-
marks of this nature and that he demanded an tions fromhome. In the course of our negotia-
explanation. Tchitcherineshuffledhis papers, tions,when we were debatingsome complicated
consultedhis expertsand made a ratherlame reply point,he would frequently say to me "Mr. Grew,
thathe was referring onlyin generaltermsto the you are a diplomatwhile I am nothingbut a
international situation,at whichVenizelos shrug- soldier and I am not versed in the finesse of
ged his shouldersand said thathe wouldnotpress diplomacy"; to which I always replied "Every
the point as he did not wish to delay the pro- day of my twentyyears' experiencein diplomacy
cedure. Whetherwe sympathizedor not, we all has shown me the advantageof expressingone's
listenedwhen Venizelos spoke. He was a man mindopenly,candidly,and honestly,and you will
who would commandattentionin any situation never findany other kind of diplomacyon my
and his free,self-confident, clear deliverywas a part." Afterall, in Ismet's position,it was the
blessed reliefafterthe haltingindistinctspeeches bluffqualities of the soldierand not the subtlety
of some of the otherdelegates. of the old-schooldiplomatwhich he needed and
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6 JOSEPH C. GREW [PROC. AMER. PHIL. SOC.
which he exercised throughout. He was in a not been fullydiscussed,and he also drew uipa
besiegedstrongholdand all he had to do was to timetable mappingout each day's procedureand
hold out against all assaults and he did it with ending with his definitedetermination to leave
conspicuous success. In actual debate he was Lausanne on Februarysecond, which was later
hopelesslyoutclassed,partlythroughthe handi- extendedto Februaryfourth. To make a long
cap of his deafness,whichnecessitatedeveryword storyshort,I can perhapsnot do betterthanread
thatwas said at theconference beingwrittendown to you the entriesin my diary for that last day
for him by the secretaryat his side, and, also, I of the firstphase of the conference.
believe,because he was neitherquick-wittednor
Sunday,February4, 1923.
keenof comprehension; nor did he appear to have
a thoroughgrasp of the details of the subjects A fatefulday. None of us had any idea what it
underdebate,and manya timeat the conference would bring forth. We simplyknew that the Allied
drafttreatywas to be on the conferencetable at 4 P.M.
tablehe missedan admirableopportunity to score
for the Turks to sign or leave, and that Curzon had
offLord Curzon and otherswhen being attacked sworn to departat 9 P.M. whateverthe result. Duca,
and browbeaten. I rememberonce when Lord the Rumanian Minister for Foreign Affairs,said to
Curzon was attackingIsmet's objection to the Mrs. Grew just beforelunch,in a particularlychoice
continuanceof the foreignstationnaireships in metaphor: "The abscess is going to break today but
Constantinopleon the ground that they were a we don't know whetherthe result will be good or
relic of the capitulations,Lord Curzon said "But bad."
our only reason for keepingthe stationnairesis At 1 :30 while we were all at lunch the firstim-
forthe purposeof obtainingtransportation to and portant developmentoccurred. I saw Arlotta, the
fro like cabs or taxi automobiles." What a hit Italian secretary,hurry into the dining room and
Ismet would have made if he had replied"Then, hand a documentto Garroni who immediatelyarose
It proved to be a draft treaty
Lord Curzon,I assume thatyou will have no ob- and left the room.
drawx~n up by the Turkish delegation and handed to
jectionto our maintaininga Turkish stationnaire the Allies in reply to their draft, containing only
in London,whichis also a portand wheretrans- those clauses which had been discussed and agreed
portationis equally as necessaryas in Constanti- to by both sides in committeeand omittingall others.
nople." Ismet accompaniedit by a note in which he said that
The element of intrigue and international he felt the clauses already agreed to constituteda
rivalrywhich went on at Lausanne, of which I sufficient basis for peace, and that othersubjects still
had occasion to observe many instancesand il- under controversycould be settled later. It was a
lustrations,opened my eyes to the sorrystate of clever move.
old worlddiplomacyand caused me to realizethat The delegates of the Inviting Powers immediately
even the plots of E. Phillips Oppenheimare not went into conferencein Lord Curzon's room. At
of 3 :30 they summonedIsmet who came down fromhis
all of themso far-fetched.During the course
hotel with a large group of his experts. At 7
the firstphase of the conference a roomof one of
Bentinck, the British secretary,called me on the
our secretarieswas entered,his locked trunk telephone and said that the Turks wvere probably
brokenopen and an envelopebearingthe titleand going to sign in a few momentsand suggested that
seals of the Departmentof State was stolenand I get our delegates togetherto be ready to go to
never found. Fortunately,it containednothing Lord Curzon's room to witness the ceremony. I
more comprehensive thanthe laissers-passers and collectedAmbassador Child and Admiral Bristol and
personal accounts of the secretaryin question. we went into the hall at the foot of the staircase in
But, fromthatmoment,we arrangedto have one the old part of the hotel leading fromCurzon's floor.
of our staffin the Chanceryday and night,with- The hall was packed with members of (lelegations
out exception. and newspaper correspondentswaiting for the final
denouement. The air was full of electricity;hardly
But I must not dally with these various side-
anyone talked; we simplylistened and waited. The
lightsand musttell you somethingof the working hall upstairs was litteredwith the packed trunksof
of the conference. On Januarythirty-first Lord the Britishdelegation; in factwhen Ismet was calling
Curzon decided that drastic measures must be on Curzon yesterday.the British made a point of
taken to conclude negotiationsand he not only bustling about and removing various trunks under
presentedthe Turks witha completedrafttreaty Ismet's nose so that he could not fail to be impressed
based in part on the agreementsalready reached, withthe definiteplans fordeparture.Thus we waited,
but containingmany otherprovisionswhich had expectingany momentto be summonedto watch the
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signing of the treaty. Suddenly, at 8 o'clock, the asked him if he would make furtherconcessions on
sound of a door opening above; everyonegot up and the judicial clauses provided we should obtain con-
moved toward the staircase. In a momentIsmet ap- cessions fromthe Allies in other respects. He asked
peared, descendingthe stairs followedby his delega- what we suggested. We said that firstof all the
tion; he took offhis bowler hat, bowed rightand left foreignjudicial advisers should be admittednot only
to the crowd in the hall, smilingbroadlyand leftthe to the courts of Constantinopleand Smyrna but to
hotel. CertainlyI shall never forgetthatscene. The those of Samsun and Adana as well. The argument
Conferencewas broken; there would be no signing. continuedforabout halfand hour; Ismetkeptrubbing
AfterBentinck'smessagean hourbeforewe had hardly his foreheadas if almost dazed. He said in Turkish
doubted that a settlementwould be made. Child, "My heart is squeezing me." Finally he got up and
Bristol and I almost immediatelywent to Lord went into the adjoining room,stayed there for three
Curzon's room. Everyone had left. In a moment minutes,then returned. It was evident that he had
Curzon appeared; he burst into the room like an gone to consult his experts, but he continued the
angry bull, glared at us and began to pace up and discussion without a sign that he had seen them.
down waving his fistin the air. He was perspiring Then quite suddenlyhe said, "All right,I will con-
and looked all in. He shouted,"We have been sit- cede." We said "Samsun and Adana?" He replied,
ting here for four mortal hours and Ismet has re- 'No, only Samsun." We said: "That is not enough
plied to everythingwe have said by the same old to justify our retaining Lord Curzon." Another
banalities-independence and sovereignty. We have twentyminutesof discussion. Again Ismet left the
all done our best. Even Bompard (the French dele- roomi-for we were pushing him hard-returned and
gate) beat his fiston the table and told Ismet that seated himselfagain. He looked awfullytired. Then
he was simplystirringup war. Bompard made the aftera decent interval,so as not to give us the im-
strongestspeech I ever heard him make." We asked pressionthathe had talkedwith his experts,he said:
Curzon what Ismet had broken on. Curzon said it 'All right,I will give you both Samsun and Adana,
was the judicial clauses. (This was only partially but you must give me your word of honor that you
correct as it was the economic clauses too.) He will not reveal these concessions to the Allies before
said that at the last momentIsmet had withdrawnto you have secured theirs." We agreed, arose, shook
another room with his experts and that they had hands and said we hoped and believed thatthis would
fullyexpected him to come back and sign. Instead be a fair basis for renewed negotiationsand hurried
he returned,refusedto sign, bowed and leftthe room. to the station in the car. We were elated for these
It was all over. Curzon was in a fearfulstate. We concessions that we had obtained were by no means
asked him if we could do any good by seeing Ismet, unimportant,Ismet having obstinatelystood out on
for as impartialobserversit was withinour province them with the Allies. We felt sure at that moment
while safe-guardingAmerican intereststo contribute that Curzon would remain.
in every properway to the cause of peace. He said At the station I saw Bompard gettinginto his car
that Bompard and Montagna had gone up to see him and wondered why he was leaving just as Curzon
but that it could do no good. We said we would try was about to start. Other people appeared to be en-
and again asked him if the judicial clauses were the teringtheir cars also and I saw some of the Italians
real stumblingblock. He answeredin the affirmative. coming out of the station. I went up to McClure
Child, Bristol and I then hurried downstairs. I who was near our car as we got out and asked him
had the Hudson at the door in a minuteand we drove how soon Lord Curzon's train was starting. "He's
quicklyto the Palace Hotel. Bompard and Montagna just gone," he said; "The train has just pulled out.
were with Ismet but we were shown into Hussein's They've all gone-the whole delegation." And that's
room. The concierge told us that Lord Curzon's that.
train,the OrientExpress, was an hour late and would
not leave before ten o'clock. This proved to be It is idle to speculate upon whether the Con-
wrong. Curzon himself had had the train held back ference of Lausanne could have been saved by our
for half an hour in order to hear the result of arriving five minutes earlier at the station. It is
Bompard's and Montagna's talk with Ismet, but as not impossible; in fact I hardly see how Curzon
soon as theyreportedno resultsthe trainwas released would have dared to leave after what we had to
and actuallyleftat 9:25 or thereabouts. tell him, for it showed that the Turks had not got
A momentafter we were seated Ismet came in, to the end of their
rope in the matter of conces-
Bompard and Montagna having just left. We were
sions and that with a sufficientamount of patience
with him approximatelyan hour. We went over
mlch ground with regard to the judicial clauses, but still other concessions might be gained. Patience
Ismet told us at once that the economic clauses were was the necessary element which Curzon lacked
no less the cause of the break as they would place and now I know that without that quality it is use-
Turkey in "financial and industrial slavery." We less to try to deal with the Turk.
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The second phase of the Conference, whichbe- Instead,however,of comingto me and tellingme
gan on April 23 and ended on July24, was in franklyof his changeof attitude,as I should cer-
manyrespectsfar more interesting than the first tainlyhave done in a similarcase, he had to save
phase, but I do not wish to weary you with too his faceat all costsand merelysenthis legal expert
long an account and shall thereforelimitmyself to break the news to me. About the same time
to speakingof onlytwo or threeof theoutstanding he called upon me withgreat ceremonyand, tak-
features. The firstdifficult problemwe had on ing a documentout of his pocket,he said thathe
our hands was, strangeas it may seem,the neces- had been instructedby his Governmentto read
sity of establishingfriendlyrelations with our to me the followingmessage:
Britishcolleagues. ApparentlyLord Curzon had
gained the impression,duringthe firstphase of His Majesty'sGovernment values the friendship
and cooperation of theAmerican Delegationan(1will
the Conference, thatour delegationhad been dis-
be gladto learnitsviewsandto inform itofourviews
tinctlypro-Turkand had aided and abetted the duringthecourseof theConference.
Turkish delegationin their Machiavellianman-
oeuvres. It is true that one or two membersof This was theonlycall thatRumboldmade upon
our delegation,who had lived long in Constanti- me duringthe entirethreemonthsthat we were
nople, were somewhatpro-Turkishin their at- colleagues at Lausanne, although we had been
titudeand wereperhapsseen too frequently in the young secretariestogetherin Cairo some twenty
companyof membersof the Turkish delegation, years ago and were again colleagues in Berlin
whichmay have given rise to these unwarranted beforethe war when we togethersealed up the
suspicions. But the chargethatour delegationit- archivesof theBritishEmbassy. The Frenchand
selfwas pro-Turk,or took any step,or said any Italian delegates,on the contrary,came to see me
word contraryto the interestsof the Western as oftenas I went to see them,and we were in
Powerswas whollywithoutfoundation.Through- the habitof droppingin on each otherat any time
out the entireConferencewe lived up to the pur- of day or nightto comparenotes and discuss de-
pose of our mission,whichwas (1) to safeguard velopments. In spite of the message from the
Americaninterestsand (2) to contribute in every BritishGovernment,Sir Horace Rumbold never
properway towardsthe conclusionof peace. once duringthe Conferenceconsultedme or gave
Be thatas it may,we learnedthroughvarious me his own opinion or information on his own
channels that the British Government was not initiativewhile we were in Lausanne. .\s a re-
anxious that we should be presentat the second sulthe miissedmuchthatmighthave been of value
phase of the Conference. The Frenchand Italian to him,whilethe information he could have given
Governments, however,took a different view of me I was able to obtain equally well fromother
the matterand, when the noticesfor the second sources. These thingscountin the long run. It
meetingwere sentout by the SecretariatGeneral, makes one inclinedto agree witha remarkmade
we dulv receivedour noticewiththe rest,and, to to me one day by one of my othercolleaguesat
my considerableapprehension,I was appointedto Lausanne that "the French are clever in little
representthe United States alone. At the very thingsbut stupidin great ones, while the British
beginningI made a point of seeing each of my are clever in great ones and immenselystupidin
Allied colleaguesand tellingthemexactlywhere the small things."
we stoodand whatwe proposedto do at the Con- The miostserious developmentin the second
ference,and that I should take no step without phase of the Conferenceof Lausanne was unques-
givingthemfull information.Thereafter,when- tionablytheTurco-Greekdisputeoverreparations.
ever I saw Ismet,whichwas, of course,promptly There is no doubt whateverthat at one moment
knownto all, I took immediateoccasionto see my the Conferencehung on the brinkof ruptureand
Allied colleagues and tell them exactlywhat we Europe on thebrinkof war, forifthe Greekarmy
talked about. To make a long storyshort,this had invaded Eastern Thrace, as it was certainly
policyhad its desiredeffect,because,afterhaving on the pointof doing,therewould withoutques-
strenuously opposed our requestto be admittedto tion have been a general conflagrationin the
the deliberationsof the various sub-committees Balkans,and thereis no tellinghow far thatcon-
and groups of experts,Sir Horace Rumbold,the flagrationmighthave extended. The dangerbe-
British representative,finallywithdrewhis ob- came evident about Mav 10 on which date I
jectionsometimeafterthe Conferencehad started. learnedthatthe GreekGovernment was consider-
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VOL. 98, NO. 1, 19541 THE PEACE CONFERENCE AT LAUSANNE 9
ing an ultimatumto Turkey on the following Italian delegates I worked in constantcoopera-
grounds: (1) Maltreatmentof Greek prisoners; tion.
(2) theopeningbytheTurks ofsafedepositvaults aboutthistime
Pelle, the Frenchrepresentative,
in the Greek banks in Constantinople,and (3) proposedto IsmetthattheTurks shouldacceptthe
the alleged expulsionof GreeksfromAsia Minor. town of Karagach fromthe Greeks in lieu of re-
Venizelos,however,consideredthesepointsweak parations.
and recommended to his Government thattheulti- On May 25 1 called on each of the Allies and
matum,if issued, should be based on the Turkish said I couldnotsee war intervenewithoutexerting
claimsforreparationsfromGreece. Shortlyafter- the impartialinfluenceof the United States as a
wards Venizeloscalled on Ismetand talkedto him totallydisinterestedpower, and that I proposed
in a mostthreatening and bellicosemanner. Ismet on myown initiativeto extendmy unofficial good
said, "Do you mean you are threatening me with officesfor mediation. Each of the Allies agreed
war?" Venizelos calmeddown somewhatand of- heartilyto this proposal.
feredto agree to the principleof payingrepara- In spite of continualinsistenceon the part of
tions, but with the understandingthat no cash Venizelos and Alexandris that a final meeting
shouldbe paid, as Greece was incapableof doing should be held, and, in spite of repeatedthreats
it. Ismet proposedeitherarbitrationor the pay- on their part to leave Lausanne and to invade
mentof a lump sum, both of which suggestions Eastern Thrace unless satisfactionwere immedi-
Venizelosrefused. At thisstageIsmetwas visibly atelygiven,everyeffortwas made to postponethe
anxious and asked permissionof theAllies to send meetinguntil Ismet should have had time to re-
Turkish troops into Eastern Thrace to meet the ceivean answerfromAngoraregardingKaragach.
threat of war, which was, of course, refused. On thetwenty-fifth of May it was evidentthatthe
About this time Alexandris,the Greek Minister meetingcouldbe no longerpostponed. I spentthe
of Foreign Affairs,arrivedin Lausanne and took greaterpart of the nightbeforethe meetingwith
an even more bellicose attitudethan Venizelos Venizelos and Ismet separately,using everypos-
had done. He said that Greece was absolutely sible argument to induce a peaceful solution.
determinedto go to war ratherthan pay, and he Venizelos told me that he would accept the
remarkedto Montagnathat,as theAllies had sup- Karagach proposaland I so informedIsmet.
portedthe Greek offensivebefore,theycould not The meetingwas held at five o'clock on the
now deserther. Montagnacorrectedhimby say- followingday withone delegatefromeach country
ing "certainAllies" and added that "victorywas present. It took place in a small room at the
oftenmore costlythan defeat." Alexandris said Chateau and was intenselydramatic. We all sat
that the Greek army was the strongholdof the close togetherat a small table; Pelle, the Presi-
Allied position at the conferenceand was now dent, and Ismet sitting opposite one another.
at the zenithof its efficiency,
but thatif timewent Diamandy placed himself between Ismet and
by withoutits attackingthis efficiency would de- Venizelos with a view to separatingthe princi-
crease. Montagna indignantlyrefutedthe sug- ples in the controversy.The meetingbegan with
gestionthat the Greek armyhad anythingwhat- theutmostsolemnity.Each delegatein turnmade
ever to do with supportingthe Allied position. a speechemphasizingthe seriousnessof the situa-
Alexandris then went so far as to say that the tionand callingforconciliationand moderationon
Greekarmyhad been deprivedof victoryand that both sides. Rumboldused calm logic, Montagna
now demandedsatisfaction
its officers by invading made an impassionedplea, whilePelle summedup
Eastern Thrace. There is no doubt that this thesituationin a masterful addressfollowedby the
whole questionwas one of internalGreekpolitics. Japanese,the Serbian,the Rumanian,and myself.
The militarypartywas literallychampingat the Ismet thenbegan to talk and it was evidentat
bit while Venizelos' partyalso needed some con- once thathe was tryingto dodge the issue. Dia-
creteasset to retainpower and theywere clearly mandy slipped a note across the table to Pelle
pushinghim towardwar. begginghim to pin Ismet down to facts. Pelle
DuringthesedaystheAllies had continualmeet- thenasked Ismet whetherhe had telegraphedthe
ings to determinewhat should be done. I called Karagach proposal to Angora. Ismet repliedin
on Rumboldat this timeto ascertainhis opinion, the affirmative.Pelle said, "Have you receiveda
and he said he consideredthe situationdangerous reply?" Ismet answered,"Yes." "Do you ac-
but not necessarilycritical. With the Frenchand cept?" Ismet again tried to ramble off on
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10 JOSEPH C. GREW [PROC. AMER. PHIL. SOC.
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