2023-05-01 RHJ CEG To Sec. Blinken (Dec 2020 Transcript)
2023-05-01 RHJ CEG To Sec. Blinken (Dec 2020 Transcript)
On December 22, 2020, you provided false testimony to Congress during your voluntary
transcribed interview.1 As part of our ongoing investigation into the Bidens’ business dealings,
you agreed to participate in an interview with our staff to discuss your relationship with Hunter
Biden, among other topics.2 At the start of that interview, our staff reminded you of the statute
that makes it a crime to lie to Congress.3 You acknowledged your understanding of that statute
and stated that there is no reason you would be unable to provide truthful answers during the
interview:4
Blinken: I do.
Blinken: I do.
Question: Mr. Blinken, is there any reason that you are unable to provide truthful
answers in today’s interview?
1
Transcript of Interview, S. Comm. on Fin. and S. Comm. on Homeland Sec. and Governmental Aff. Interview of
Antony Blinken (Dec. 22, 2020), available at https://www.hsgac.senate.gov/wp-
content/uploads/imo/media/doc/2020-12-22-Blinken%20Interview%20with%20Exhibits%20-%20updated%20-
%20reduced.pdf [Hereinafter Antony Blinken Testimony].
2
At the time of the December 2020 interview, Senator Johnson was Chairman of the Homeland Security and
Governmental Affairs Committee and Senator Grassley was Chairman of the Committee on Finance.
3
Antony Blinken Testimony at 14.
4
Id.
5
Id.
The Honorable Antony Blinken
May 1, 2023
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Despite this clear warning that it is a crime to make false statements to Congress and
congressional staff, you did not provide truthful testimony during the interview when you denied
corresponding with Hunter Biden via email when you served as Deputy Secretary of State under
the Obama administration:6
Question: Did you ever talk with [Hunter Biden] on the phone?
Question: Did you have any other means of correspondence with him—emails,
texts?
Blinken: No.7
Based on evidence now available, your above statement is patently false. Emails
contained on Hunter Biden’s laptop and recent reports have revealed that you did in fact email
Hunter Biden on at least two occasions, contradicting what you told congressional investigators.
The May 22, 2015, communication below shows Hunter Biden emailing your personal email
address requesting to meet to get your “advice on a couple of things.” You responded,
“Absolutely.”8
6
Id. at 30.
7
Id. at 30. Blinken added, “The only other times I would have seen Hunter Biden, I think were two. One, I spent a
lot of time with his father, the President-elect, sometimes at their—at his home in Delaware or when he was Vice
President at the Naval Observatory or in his office at the White House, and on probably a handful of occasions, I
would see Hunter Biden or when he was still alive, Beau Biden, or actually Biden and his children either at his home
in Delaware, the Naval Observatory, or sometimes in his office at the Office of the Vice President. So those were
the other occasions in which I would have seen Hunter, and of course, I saw him at the funeral of his brother.” Id. at
30-31.
8
Jessica Chasmar and Cameron Cawthorne, Blinken and wife emailed frequently with Hunter Biden, raising
questions about role in laptop cover story, Fox News, Apr. 25, 2023, https://www.foxnews.com/politics/blinken-
wife-emailed-frequently-hunter-biden-raising-questions-role-laptop-cover-story. Based on State Department
documents obtained during Senator Johnson’s and Grassley’s investigation, Hunter Biden was scheduled to meet
with Blinken on May 27, 2015. See Antony Blinken testimony at 33, 110-111. Blinken told congressional
investigators that this meeting did not occur due to Beau Biden’s worsening health. Id. at 33. When asked what
Hunter Biden wanted to discuss at the May 2015 meeting, Blinken responded that he does not know. Id. at 36.
The Honorable Antony Blinken
May 1, 2023
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Another reported email from Hunter Biden’s laptop shows that on July 15, 2016, an
individual from Hunter Biden’s firm instructed him and his business associate, Eric Schwerin, to
“please call Evan Ryan . . . Hunter – she tried your cell earlier and it went straight to vm[.]”18
You told congressional investigators that you did not meet with Tramontano or Painter during
this time period.19 When asked if either of them informed you that they were representing
Burisma, you said, “To the best of my recollection, no.”20
It seems highly unlikely that you had no idea of Hunter Biden’s association with Burisma
while your wife was apparently coordinating with Hunter Biden to potentially connect you with
Burisma’s U.S. representatives.
The public recently learned through congressional testimony from former CIA official
Michael Morell, that you allegedly were the catalyst of an October 2020 information operation
aimed to deceive Americans about the authenticity of Hunter Biden’s laptop.21 It is now evident
that your apparent willingness to deceive the public continued through December 2020 when you
failed to tell the whole truth to congressional investigators about your contacts with Hunter
Biden.
Because your testimony is inaccurate, Congress and the public must rely on your records
as the source for information about your dealings with Hunter Biden. As such, you must
preserve and provide all records, referring or relating to Hunter Biden, his business dealings, or
his family’s business dealings, including but not limited to correspondence sent or received from
your personal email accounts and phones, to include those of Ms. Ryan.22 These records will
help provide the public a complete picture and understanding of the extent of your apparent
deceptions. We request you and Ms. Ryan produce these records no later than May 15, 2023.
18
Email from Joan Mayer to Hunter Biden and Eric Schwerin, Jul. 15, 2016, https://bidenlaptopemails.com/biden-
emails/email.php?id=20160715-144649_111821.
19
Antony Blinken Testimony at 94.
20
Id.
21
Letter from Jim Jordan, Chairman, H. Comm. on the Judiciary, and Michael Turner, Chairman, H. Permanent
Select Comm. on Intelligence, to Antony Blinken, Apr. 20, 2023, https://judiciary.house.gov/sites/evo-
subsites/republicans-judiciary.house.gov/files/evo-media-document/2023-04-20-jdj-mt-to-blinken-re-public-
statement-on-hunter-biden-emails_0.pdf; Natasha Bertrand, Hunter Biden story is Russian disinfo, dozens of former
intel officials say, Politico, Oct. 19, 2020, https://www.politico.com/news/2020/10/19/hunter-biden-story-russian-
disinfo-430276. According to recent testimony from Michael Morell, the former Deputy Director of the Central
Intelligence Agency, Blinken was the catalyst of the October 19, 2020 letter signed by 51 former Intelligence
Agency officials which was designed to convince the American public that Hunter Biden’s laptop had “all the
classic earmarks of a Russian information operation.” Id. At the time of the letter’s release, Blinken was a senior
advisor to the Biden campaign. Kristen Hinman, These Are the Most Influential Operatives on the Biden Campaign,
Washingtonian, Oct. 26, 2020, https://www.washingtonian.com/2020/10/26/these-are-the-most-influential-
operatives-on-the-biden-campaign/.
22
“Records” include any written, recorded, or graphic material of any kind, including letters, memoranda, reports,
notes, electronic data (emails, email attachments, and any other electronically-created or stored information),
calendar entries, inter-office communications, meeting minutes, phone/voice mail or recordings/records of verbal
communications, and drafts (whether or not they resulted in final documents).
The Honorable Antony Blinken
May 1, 2023
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Sincerely,