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TAURINE The Key To Restoring Metabolic Function?

 natedawggh ·  Apr 28, 2015 ·  amino acid copper supplemental taurine

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Apr 28, 2015  #1

I have been having a great time taking Taurine. At first it disturbed my sleep
and gave me intestinal difficulties because it was increasing my bile output by
quite a lot. But then I took my copper supplement around the same time I
took Taurine, and the excess bile secretion stopped immediately. I thought this
was really odd, so I started reading about Taurine's effects on copper and
natedawggh various minerals. It turns out that if you cannot process copper properly,
Member supplemental taurine fixes this issue, and Taurine is very specifically necessary
Joined: Aug 24, 2013 for repairing many liver conditions (I have had elevated Triglycerides for some
Messages: 649 time) It seems from a Peat point of view that the Taurine does not really
eliminate copper, but helps the body utilize it, and I theorize, transport it into
cells to make it viable for various enzymatic functions.
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Turns out that taurine is also crucial to maintaining proper electrolyte balance,
and basically without Taurine your electrolytes go haywire. Dr. Peat's work is
often focused on metabolic problems associated with loss of magnesium and
the inappropriate excitation of cells by calcium and sodium. Turns out Taruine
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is magnesium sparing and helps regulate calcium, sodium and potassium too!
I can only imagine that if you supplement these minerals while taking Taurine,
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Hypothyroid/obese/diabetics have naturally very low levels of Taurine. Taurine

supplementation helps prevent obesity and complications from diabetes.
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I recently discovered that amino acid ratios in my diet have more potent and
longer lasting effects on weight, sleep, libido, etc, and are all even further
supported by thyroid supplement. Taking Taurine, Lysine, and Glycine
specifically has had very positive improvements in my condition, and now I
seem to feel an even better improvement in taking Taurine in addition to
various mineral supplements, especially copper and potassium. I also take Zinc,
eggshell calcium, and sea salt.
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Here is a study that found a direct relation between platelet Taurine level and
thyroid status
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And last but certainly not least, Taurine increases testosterone production and
libido in males (and probably has a very similar positive hormone association if
females). This I can personally attest to.
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If anyone else has specific experience with Taurine, especially it's relation to
copper and liver function and/or other specific health issues, please post about
them.

Apr 28, 2015  #2

Sounds like it would be useful for my liver problems

S what brand are you taking and how much?

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Apr 28, 2015  #3

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I tried 3g of Taurine nearly a year ago to help with sleep. It didn't seem to have
any immediate affect on sleep, but it did on RA. I woke up the next morning
and the stiffness in my fingers had reduced by about 80%. I was amazed, tried
it again the next night, same result. Did some digging and came across this

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Member
Joined: Nov 14, 2013 I've been taking 5g at night since then, it stopped working at about month 7
Messages: 144 for some unknown reason, I took a break for a few weeks and then went back,
and it seems to be working again. It's pretty amazing stuff! I wonder if the
effect can be improved by anything else, and going to try combining it with
glycine to see what happens.

I must create a system, or be enslaved by another man's.

William Blake

Jul 22, 2015  #4

natedawggh said:

Taking Taurine, Lysine, and Glycine specifically has had very positive
improvements in my condition

Peata
Member Nate, were you taking taurine, lysine and glycine together? No interaction?
Joined: Jun 12, 2013
And are you still taking all three?
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Jul 24, 2015 Thread starter  #5

Peata said:

natedawggh said:

Taking Taurine, Lysine, and Glycine specifically has had very positive
natedawggh improvements in my condition
Member
Joined: Aug 24, 2013
Messages: 649 Nate, were you taking taurine, lysine and glycine together? No interaction? And
are you still taking all three?

Glycine I don't like taking at all. The synthetic form is strange and it makes me
feel weird, and one time I took too much and it made me very nauseous. I do
put gelatin in my casein protein shake, however, and have great effects with
that.

I took lysine for 3 months but have now tapered myself off it while still using
feverfew (which has a similar effect). From having used it for so long I can now
tell when I get high serotonin, because a migraine will start to happen, which I

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can short circuit with feverfew (the migraine will develop if I don't keep my
metabolism up with niacinamide, calcium, and proper foods).

I do take Taurine still and love it. I take 1000mg a day in two doses. I found it
keeps up my spirits, being useful to increase dopamine. It increases my energy
overall and continues to help regrow hair that I had lost (I'm aging backwards!)

Jul 26, 2015  #6

Could it also have something to do with the sulfur content? Taurine is

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apparently composed of a large portion of sulfur. In this podcast Dr. Garrett
Smith talks about an experiment where he took way too much and had some
really alarming side effects, but noticed a positive effect on body fat with a
smaller dose. http://180radio.com/180degreehealth-18- ... s-dangers/ Sulfur is
PeatMonster also commonly for osteoarthritis I believe, but might have some relation to
Member RA? Ray Peat mentions sulfur as a short term treatment here.
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Jul 26, 2015  #7

Is sulfur in an amino acid comparable to supplements?

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Jul 26, 2015  #8

natedawggh said:

Peata said:

Peata natedawggh said:

Member
Joined: Jun 12, 2013 Taking Taurine, Lysine, and Glycine specifically has had very positive
Messages: 3,402 improvements in my condition

Nate, were you taking taurine, lysine and glycine together? No interaction?
And are you still taking all three?

Glycine I don't like taking at all. The synthetic form is strange and it makes me
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feel weird, and one time I took too much and it made me very nauseous. I do
put gelatin in my casein protein shake, however, and have great effects with
that.

I took lysine for 3 months but have now tapered myself off it while still using
feverfew (which has a similar effect). From having used it for so long I can now
tell when I get high serotonin, because a migraine will start to happen, which I
can short circuit with feverfew (the migraine will develop if I don't keep my
metabolism up with niacinamide, calcium, and proper foods).

I do take Taurine still and love it. I take 1000mg a day in two doses. I found it
keeps up my spirits, being useful to increase dopamine. It increases my energy
overall and continues to help regrow hair that I had lost (I'm aging backwards!)

OK, thanks. I stopped Lysine by just taking one less pill per day this week (was
taking it 3 x day) and then when I started Taurine on Fri, I stopped Lysine
completely. No withdrawal of any kind.

Glycine hasn't been a problem, no effect that I can tell whatsoever, and I was
even afraid to start taking it at first, but now I take a pill of it if I'm having
meat. I just wonder if taking Taurine (instead of glycine) around meat would
have the same effect of balancing the amino acid. Anyone know?

Jul 26, 2015  #9

Why did you stop taking the lysine? I have started taking lysine 3 days ago and
it feels like it lowers serotonin. Did you quit it because it stopped working?

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Jul 28, 2015 Thread starter  #10

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Vinero said:

Why did you stop taking the lysine? I have started taking lysine 3 days ago and it
feels like it lowers serotonin. Did you quit it because it stopped working?

natedawggh
Member
I quit because it worked while I was taking it, and I was hoping I didn't need it
Joined: Aug 24, 2013 any more, but the other day I drank some milk and I got a terrible migraine
Messages: 649 and bloating within 12 hours, so I went back on lysine. I just like how I feel on
it better, even though at first it seemed to make me tire easily, I have NO
depression when i'm on it, NO bloating, and 2 months later I can be active
now without getting too tired (though there is a limit).

Jul 28, 2015 Thread starter  #11

Peata said:

natedawggh said:

natedawggh Peata said:

Member
Joined: Aug 24, 2013
Messages: 649 natedawggh said:

Taking Taurine, Lysine, and Glycine specifically has had very positive
improvements in my condition

Nate, were you taking taurine, lysine and glycine together? No

interaction? And are you still taking all three?

Glycine I don't like taking at all. The synthetic form is strange and it makes
me feel weird, and one time I took too much and it made me very nauseous.
I do put gelatin in my casein protein shake, however, and have great effects
with that.

I took lysine for 3 months but have now tapered myself off it while still using
feverfew (which has a similar effect). From having used it for so long I can
now tell when I get high serotonin, because a migraine will start to happen,
which I can short circuit with feverfew (the migraine will develop if I don't
keep my metabolism up with niacinamide, calcium, and proper foods).

I do take Taurine still and love it. I take 1000mg a day in two doses. I found it
keeps up my spirits, being useful to increase dopamine. It increases my
energy overall and continues to help regrow hair that I had lost (I'm aging
backwards!)

OK, thanks. I stopped Lysine by just taking one less pill per day this week (was
taking it 3 x day) and then when I started Taurine on Fri, I stopped Lysine
completely. No withdrawal of any kind.

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Glycine hasn't been a problem, no effect that I can tell whatsoever, and I was
even afraid to start taking it at first, but now I take a pill of it if I'm having meat. I
just wonder if taking Taurine (instead of glycine) around meat would have the
same effect of balancing the amino acid. Anyone know?

I lied. I'm taking Lysine again (see above post) I just like how I feel better on it
than not.

Dec 23, 2015  #12

natedawggh said:

post 92348

Peata said:

Peata
Member natedawggh said:
Joined: Jun 12, 2013
Messages: 3,402
Peata said:

natedawggh said:

Taking Taurine, Lysine, and Glycine specifically has had very

positive improvements in my condition

Nate, were you taking taurine, lysine and glycine together? No

interaction? And are you still taking all three?

Glycine I don't like taking at all. The synthetic form is strange and it
makes me feel weird, and one time I took too much and it made me
very nauseous. I do put gelatin in my casein protein shake, however, and
have great effects with that.

I took lysine for 3 months but have now tapered myself off it while still
using feverfew (which has a similar effect). From having used it for so
long I can now tell when I get high serotonin, because a migraine will
start to happen, which I can short circuit with feverfew (the migraine will
develop if I don't keep my metabolism up with niacinamide, calcium,
and proper foods).

I do take Taurine still and love it. I take 1000mg a day in two doses. I
found it keeps up my spirits, being useful to increase dopamine. It
increases my energy overall and continues to help regrow hair that I had
lost (I'm aging backwards!)

OK, thanks. I stopped Lysine by just taking one less pill per day this week
(was taking it 3 x day) and then when I started Taurine on Fri, I stopped
Lysine completely. No withdrawal of any kind.

Glycine hasn't been a problem, no effect that I can tell whatsoever, and I was

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even afraid to start taking it at first, but now I take a pill of it if I'm having
meat. I just wonder if taking Taurine (instead of glycine) around meat would
have the same effect of balancing the amino acid. Anyone know?

I lied. I'm taking Lysine again (see above post) I just like how I feel better on it
than not.

I don't know if you check in, Nate, but I was curious if you use caffeine, and if
so, how much?

My taurine experiment never really got off the ground this summer - too much
going on and too many other supplements, but I'm using it now, and higher
doses to give it a real shot at the benefits.
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Jan 6, 2016  #13

I think I'm seeing some benefits at 500 mg. x 4. I added 500 mg. glycine with
the taurine doses. And that's all I'm supplementing regularly other than
caffeine if my coffee consumption is not high enough. I also take
Cyproheptadine in divided doses to make 8 mg. day.

Peata The first thing I noticed with taurine is that I haven't had to wake up in the
Member night with glycogen problem since I started taking it. I get a pretty restful
Joined: Jun 12, 2013 night.
Messages: 3,402
I'm also able to stretch out meals to 3 hours between them instead of 2. I
guess I feel full longer or don't have the blood sugar dips like I used to. I still
get them if I don't eat enough at a meal and go too long, but if I eat properly I
don't get them like I used to.

Jan 13, 2016 Thread starter  #14

Peata said:

post 118099 I think I'm seeing some benefits at 500 mg. x 4. I added 500 mg.
glycine with the taurine doses. And that's all I'm supplementing regularly other
than caffeine if my coffee consumption is not high enough. I also take
natedawggh Cyproheptadine in divided doses to make 8 mg. day.
Member
The first thing I noticed with taurine is that I haven't had to wake up in the night
Joined: Aug 24, 2013
Messages: 649 with glycogen problem since I started taking it. I get a pretty restful night.

I'm also able to stretch out meals to 3 hours between them instead of 2. I guess I
feel full longer or don't have the blood sugar dips like I used to. I still get them if
I don't eat enough at a meal and go too long, but if I eat properly I don't get
them like I used to.

I don't check in a lot any more.. But I will try to. I've found taurine to be

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INDESPENSIBLE in my recovery. I average 4000 mg a day in two doses.

Apparently (among many positive effects) it helps the body get more mileage
out of other protein. I will take it for the rest of my life.

I also found Casein protein before bed to be the missing piece from my diet. 3
days after starting it I lost the chronic pain id been having for years and it has
never returned. I take Naked brand Casein because it has absolutely no fillers
or additives. It goes a long way for me.

I also use a small amount of lysine daily (500-1000 mg) to depress serotonin.
This has also had the effect of restoring my lost hair and it seems to also aid in
muscle growth and long term, slow weight loss.

I drink 2-3 Starbucks Venti (red-eye) a day, careful to always have adequate
blood sugar and protein with and before coffee. I used cilantro twice daily to
chelate a massive amount of iron from my tissues. I also take aspirin, the fat
vitamins (especially D), and niacinamide.
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Jan 13, 2016 Thread starter  #15

...I do not like supplement glycine. I think the synthetic version isn't safe or
healthy. I use gelatin occasionally to get some (but casein has an excellent
amino acid balance)

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Jan 13, 2016  #16

I support taurine, definitely has helped augment my free testosterone and has
resulted in a significant increase in libido. A great addition to any supplement
arsenal, especially for guys struggling with low-t or hypothyroid...

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Jan 13, 2016  #17

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natedawggh said:

J post 119116 ...I do not like supplement glycine. I think the synthetic version isn't
safe or healthy. I use gelatin occasionally to get some (but casein has an
excellent amino acid balance)
jyb
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Interesting, what leads you to this conclusion about glycine only supplements?
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Jan 13, 2016 Thread starter  #18

jyb said:

post 119252

natedawggh said:

natedawggh
post 119116 ...I do not like supplement glycine. I think the synthetic version
Member
isn't safe or healthy. I use gelatin occasionally to get some (but casein has an
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excellent amino acid balance)
Messages: 649

Interesting, what leads you to this conclusion about glycine only supplements?

When I would take it I would get a jittery feeling, as if there was something
******* with my nerve signaling. Once I took too much and felt so sick I almost
went to the hospital. I've never had anything like that with lysine or taurine.
Plus you can get more than enough glycine from gelatin and it's best to get
foods/supps from natural sources to avoid side effects and toxic contaminants.
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Jan 15, 2016  #19

natedawggh said: 

...I do not like supplement glycine. I think the synthetic version isn't safe or
healthy. I use gelatin occasionally to get some (but casein has an excellent
amino acid balance)
Peata
Member
Joined: Jun 12, 2013
I may have you mixed up with someone else, but I thought you said at one
Messages: 3,402 time that taking lysine began to reverse the weight loss and stretch mark loss
that you experienced on taurine. If that was you, then did it stop having that
effect after a while ?

Mar 25, 2016  #20

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Would taurine help warm up my painfully cold hands and feet?

And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which
deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with
him.

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