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Filing # 191081810 E-Filed 02/01/2024 05:34:29 PM

MARION COUNTY CIRCUIT COURT


FIFTH JUDICIAL CIRCUIT, FLORIDA

NEIL J. GILLESPIE,

Plaintiff,
2024-CA-0209
Case Number:__________________
vs. JURY TRIAL DEMANDED

ALPHABET INC., a Foreign Profit Corporation,


GOOGLE LLC, a Foreign Limited Liability Company,
VERIZON COMMUNICATIONS, INC., a Foreign
Profit Corporation,
VERIZON WIRELESS SERVICES, LLC, a Foreign
Limited Liability Company,
TRACFONE WIRELESS, INC., a Foreign Profit
Corporation,

Defendants.
______________________________________/

APPENDIX C - TRUMP V. ANDERSON, USSC No. 23-719


COMPLAINT FOR REPLEVIN

Exhibit C.1 Petitioner’s Justice Network blog post January 20, 2021:
USSC Rule 23 Stay Inauguration of Joe Biden and Kamala Harris
https://nosueorg.blogspot.com/2021/01/ussc-rule-23-stay-inauguration-of-joe.html

Exhibit C.2 Petitioner’s email to the Parties in Trump v. Anderson, USSC No. 23-719,
requesting consent under USSC Rule 37 to file an amicus curiae brief.

Exhibit C.3 USSC letter to the Petitioner February 8, 2021 returning his petition received
January 19, 2021, with directions to correct and refile.

Exhibit C.4 Pennsylvania Extradition Habeas Petition CP-09-MD-319-2021, with Docket

Exhibit C.5 Motion to Strike Florida Executive Extradition Documents, CP-09-MD-319-2021


NOTE: Paragraph 7, page 2, citing Art. II, sec. 3, Fla. Const., should state:
SECTION 3. Branches of government.—The powers of the state government
shall be divided into legislative, executive and judicial branches. No person
belonging to one branch shall exercise any powers appertaining to either of the
other branches unless expressly provided herein.

Exhibit C.6 Transcript of hearing April 28, 2021, Habeas Petition CP-09-MD-319-2021
THE HONORABLE CLYDE W. WAITE presiding, Courtroom 3
In the Court of Common Pleas of Bucks County, Pennsylvania (Criminal Div.)
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IN THE COURT OF COMMON PLEAS


OF BUCKS COUNTY, PENNSYLVANIA
Criminal COURT DIVISION
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COMMONWEALTH OF PENNSYLVANIA : 2021-319
:
:
versus :
:
:
NEIL JOSEPH GILLESPIE, :
:
Defendant :
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BEFORE: THE HONORABLE CLYDE W. WAITE, J.
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April 28, 2021
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Bucks County Justice Center
Courtroom 310
Doylestown, Pennsylvania
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(HEARING)
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APPEARANCES:
Kristi Hoover, ESQUIRE
Assistant District Attorney
Neil Joseph Gillespie - pro se
David Harold Knight, Esq.
Stand-by Counsel C.6
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John A. Toronzi, CRR
Official Court Reporter
2

1 MS. HOOVER: Good morning, Your


2 Honor. Your Honor, would you prefer I
3 stand or sit?
4 THE COURT: You're fine.
5 MS. HOOVER: Thank you, Your
6 Honor.
7 Your Honor, we're in Commonwealth
8 versus Neil Gillespie on Miscellaneous
9 Docket 319 of 2021. And we're here today
10 on defendant's motion for a writ of habeas
11 corpus as to the governor's warrant that
12 was served on him.
13 Judge, I think preliminarily we
14 need to address that Mr. Dave Knight, who
15 is present in the courtroom, is counsel of
16 record. At the last hearing -- well, at
17 the hearing in which the defendant was
18 served with the governor's warrant it was
19 discussed that Mr. Gillespie did not want
20 him to continue to represent him.
21 However, he was not at that time removed
22 from the case. I believe before we move
23 forward we need to firmly establish
24 whether he is represented by Mr. Knight or
25 by anyone. And as Your Honor I believe is
3

1 aware, the public defenders were asked to


2 provide a representative to stand by and
3 Ms. Cregar from the public defender's
4 office is present in that event.
5 THE COURT: I didn't expect to
6 have both counsel here. Ms. Cregar, I
7 wanted someone from the public defender's
8 office here because I didn't know Mr.
9 Knight was going to be here. And I know
10 that Mr. Gillespie has indicated rather
11 forcefully that he did not want the public
12 defender's office to represent him, nor
13 Mr. Knight. However, out of an abundance
14 of caution I decided to have one of you
15 here, not both. I don't know if you have
16 other matters to attend to. You probably
17 do. So it's up to you whether you want to
18 remain or not.
19 MS. CREGAR: Judge, I do have
20 other matters, if my appearance is not
21 required, I would request permission to
22 leave.
23 THE COURT: All right. Just a
24 moment. Have Mr. Gillespie sworn.
25 (The defendant was duly sworn.)
4

1 THE COURT: Now, Mr. Gillespie,


2 you appeared in front of me either one or
3 two times, and at least one of those
4 occasions, if not both, I inquired about
5 your legal representation. You did inform
6 me that you did not want the public
7 defender's office to represent you and you
8 did not want their office to be stand-by
9 counsel in the event if you had questions,
10 is that correct?
11 THE DEFENDANT: I'm trying to
12 speak with the public defender but I was
13 never able to do so about what they would
14 do for me.
15 THE COURT: Mr. Gillespie, I
16 asked you a very specific limited and
17 direct question. Did you say you did not
18 want the public defender's office to
19 represent you in this extradition matter?
20 THE DEFENDANT: Yes, because I
21 don't know what they would do for me so
22 the answer is no. No public defender.
23 And I've terminated Mr. Knight and have a
24 disciplinary complaint sitting here to get
25 copied and filed in the case.
5

1 THE COURT: All right. Well, I'm


2 going to have Mr. Knight stand by in the
3 event that you wish to consult with him.
4 And, Ms. Cregar, you're free to
5 go.
6 MS. CREGAR: Thank you, Your
7 Honor.
8 THE COURT: Any other preliminary
9 matters?
10 MS. HOOVER: No, Your Honor.
11 THE DEFENDANT: I think there are
12 at least one preliminary matter.
13 Yesterday I received a response to
14 petition from Ms. Hoover and I have a
15 reply to the Commonwealth's response here,
16 the file in the case. But because I
17 didn't have time at the jail to get a copy
18 I would like to get it copied here and I
19 can pay for it either through my inmate
20 account, I have a request form, or my
21 brother is standing by on my phone, he can
22 pay with my debit card.
23 THE COURT: You're saying that
24 you filed a reply to the response that was
25 filed by the district attorney's office?
6

1 THE DEFENDANT: I have a reply;


2 I'm holding it in my hand.
3 THE COURT: All right. And what
4 is it that you're requesting now?
5 THE DEFENDANT: Well, in order
6 to --
7 THE COURT: What are you
8 requesting, sir? I'm not going to spend
9 all day in having a lot of unnecessary
10 discussion. I'm asking you some very
11 specific questions and I expect answers to
12 those specific questions.
13 I've been very patient with you
14 on prior occasions, giving you the
15 opportunity to say those things that you
16 want to say. But these are just matters
17 of administration and I think that you owe
18 a reasonable answer to a reasonable
19 question. Is there anything about the
20 question that you don't understand?
21 THE DEFENDANT: Could you repeat
22 the question, Your Honor.
23 THE COURT: I asked you whether
24 or not you had something that you filed
25 and what is it that you wanted with
7

1 respect to that filing?


2 THE DEFENDANT: I have the
3 filing; I'm holding in my hand.
4 THE COURT: All right. So what
5 is it that you want with respect to that?
6 THE DEFENDANT: Copies.
7 THE COURT: So couldn't you have
8 just said that?
9 THE DEFENDANT: I thought that
10 was my response.
11 THE COURT: Well, it wasn't.
12 THE DEFENDANT: I'm sorry, Your
13 Honor.
14 THE COURT: Make a copy of it for
15 him.
16 That copy is for whom?
17 THE DEFENDANT: I wanted to have
18 a copy for Ms. Hoover and for Your Honor.
19 THE COURT: Make two copies.
20 Anything else?
21 THE DEFENDANT: No, Your Honor.
22 THE COURT: Ms. Hoover, I don't
23 know if you -- I will make his response or
24 his reply to your response available as
25 soon as it's copied. Do you need us to
8

1 wait for that or are you ready to proceed?


2 MS. HOOVER: Your Honor,
3 certainly I will review that. I believe
4 that as I understand Your Honor's Order
5 from April 16th, if Mr. Gillespie filed a
6 habeas motion, I had two days to respond,
7 which I did. And subsequently, any
8 further issues would be litigated -- any
9 relevant issues would be litigated at
10 today's hearing. So I'm not understanding
11 why a written motion is being filed.
12 THE COURT: You don't know what
13 the motion is?
14 MS. HOOVER: He did not file it,
15 no, he wrote it and brought it today.
16 THE COURT: You don't know what
17 that is at this point because you haven't
18 seen it?
19 MS. HOOVER: Correct.
20 THE COURT: Why don't we at least
21 get that under our belt so that we can get
22 this started.
23 While we're waiting. Mr.
24 Gillespie, I've seen and read over some of
25 the voluminous papers that you provided to
9

1 my office that included a number of things


2 that I'm unclear as to their relevance to
3 this extradition matter. For instance,
4 you filed a petition for writ of
5 certiorari in the U.S. Supreme Court
6 asserting that you were a candidate for
7 president and that you felt that President
8 Biden should be disqualified and that Vice
9 President Harris should be disqualified.
10 Can you enlighten me on why
11 you're providing copies of those documents
12 to me?
13 THE DEFENDANT: Well, it goes to
14 the point that a lawyer admitted to the
15 bar is an officer of the Court and part of
16 the judicial branch of government. And it
17 goes to Governor DeSantis from Florida,
18 his governor's warrant, he is a member of
19 the Florida bar, he is an officer of the
20 Court, he is a member of the judicial
21 branch. I have a motion pending about
22 that. I don't think that he is able to
23 execute executive documents as required by
24 the extradition law.
25 THE COURT: What does that have
10

1 to do with President Biden and Vice


2 President Harris?
3 THE DEFENDANT: Well, that just
4 goes further into the issue of separation
5 of powers in our government and the
6 problem of lawyers, officers of the court
7 serving in either the legislature or in
8 the executive positions.
9 THE COURT: What does that have
10 to do with these proceedings?
11 THE DEFENDANT: We have an
12 officer of the court in the governorship
13 of Florida, where by the U.S. and the
14 State Constitution he should be prohibited
15 from doing that.
16 THE COURT: In doing what?
17 THE DEFENDANT: Pardon?
18 THE COURT: From doing what?
19 THE DEFENDANT: From signing
20 executive documents.
21 THE COURT: You're saying that
22 the governor should be prohibited from
23 signing executive documents?
24 THE DEFENDANT: Because he is an
25 officer of the court and he is a part of
11

1 the judiciary and he is a member of the


2 Florida bar. Active member of the Florida
3 bar.
4 THE COURT: You're saying because
5 he's a lawyer, and I don't know whether he
6 is or not, but you're saying because he's
7 a lawyer, and now governor, that he can't
8 -- he's prohibited from performing the
9 functions of governor?
10 THE DEFENDANT: Well, as it
11 relates to this proceeding, and I have the
12 motion here, because he has signed the
13 executive documents, it's a motion to
14 strike Florida executive extradition
15 documents that was filed last week, and a
16 copy was provided to you and to the
17 district attorney's office, as well as the
18 clerk.
19 THE COURT: Are you saying then
20 that the regularity of the documents that
21 were presented by the Governor of Florida
22 are out of order, are not conforming to
23 the extradition law because of his
24 purported status as a lawyer prior to
25 becoming governor? Is that your position?
12

1 THE DEFENDANT: Yes, Your Honor.


2 And he is still a lawyer. He is still
3 allowed to practice. He's an active
4 member of the Florida bar. He's an active
5 member of the judiciary. And there was a
6 Supreme Court holding on that as well,
7 which I've cited in the document I'm
8 holding, and the one that you referenced
9 about President Biden.
10 Also, Laurel M. Lee, the
11 purported Secretary of State, is also a
12 member of the Florida bar and an officer
13 of the court, and part of the judicial
14 branch of government. And she's not an
15 executive, an executive Secretary of State
16 for the same reasons -- the same, this is
17 not an executive or governor. The
18 extradition arrest in an asylum state made
19 pursuant to the governor's warrant is an
20 arrest subject to the 4th and 14th
21 Amendments of the U.S. Constitution;
22 therefore, the Florida executive
23 department documents appearing at Exhibit
24 1 and Exhibit 2 must be struck.
25 Furthermore, the executive
13

1 department documents at Exhibit 1 and 2


2 certify and appoint Marion County Sheriff
3 William Michael Woods as the authorized
4 agent to receive, convey and transport
5 fugitives to Florida. I've presented
6 information showing that Sheriff Woods,
7 this is for a private purpose for him. He
8 is a defendant in a litigation involving
9 the same matter that I'm being held
10 accountable for here.
11 THE COURT: And, therefore, what?
12 THE DEFENDANT: And, therefore,
13 that's another reason why these documents
14 should be struck. He has a private
15 purpose, and the documents state that he
16 does not have a private purpose.
17 Your Honor, if it's possible to
18 have one of these handcuffs taken off I
19 would be able to read better.
20 THE COURT: Can you take the
21 handcuffs off?
22 (Deputy sheriff complies).
23 THE DEFENDANT: Regarding the
24 presidential document, Your Honor. I also
25 determine that the former president and
14

1 vice president is also a member of the


2 judiciary. So I'm not really advocating
3 on one candidate over the other. Both of
4 them have constitutional problems. And my
5 petition was actually Gillespie versus the
6 Federal Elections Commission that asked
7 for a new election to be held. That's
8 getting away from this case here presently
9 before you.
10 You have the motion to strike
11 executive extradition documents?
12 THE COURT: I do.
13 Are those the two reasons that
14 you believe that this extradition -- of
15 the documents that support the extradition
16 are irregular and out of order based on
17 the status of Governor DeSantis and that
18 the sheriff of Marion County did you say?
19 THE DEFENDANT: Yes, Your Honor,
20 Marion County, Florida. Also the Florida
21 Secretary of State is also a member of the
22 judiciary.
23 THE COURT: The Secretary of
24 State?
25 THE DEFENDANT: Yes. Laurel M.
15

1 Lee.
2 THE COURT: That's because this
3 Laurel Lee is an attorney?
4 THE DEFENDANT: Well, she's a
5 member of the Florida bar, she's an
6 officer of the court, and she's still
7 referred to as Judge Lee because she was a
8 judge prior to being appointed to this
9 executive position.
10 THE COURT: But Governor DeSantis
11 is a lawyer; therefore officer of a court;
12 therefore violates the separation of
13 powers; and, therefore, the papers are
14 irregular as to him?
15 THE DEFENDANT: Yes, Your Honor.
16 THE COURT: That Sheriff Woods of
17 Marion County is also a defendant in some
18 litigation that you're involved in, and
19 that his taking custody of you as a result
20 of an extradition is inappropriate because
21 of some private purpose that he's pursuing
22 that resulted in some adverse action with
23 respect to you, is that correct?
24 THE DEFENDANT: Yes. And just to
25 clarify --
16

1 THE COURT: And thirdly, that the


2 Secretary of State is an attorney and a
3 former judge, and as a result of that,
4 violates the separation of powers, and,
5 therefore, this in some way impacts the
6 legitimacy and regularity of the documents
7 issued by the governor, is that correct?
8 THE DEFENDANT: Yes, Your Honor.
9 Can I just clarify?
10 THE COURT: Are there any other
11 reasons that -- I want to get on record
12 everything that you believe impacts the
13 regularity of the documents.
14 THE DEFENDANT: Yes. And it goes
15 to this litigation in case 2020-CA-934.
16 Ms. Thompson was at my residence and the
17 sheriff's office said that in order for me
18 to have her removed I had to file an
19 unlawful detainer action. I filed one.
20 The sheriff was named as a defendant and
21 that case was pending but -- and I've
22 attached here a default, entry of default
23 against -- let me just back up for a
24 minute.
25 That case was filed on the day
17

1 that Ms. Thompson broke into my house,


2 June the 7th, 2020. It was emailed to the
3 clerk. The clerk filed it the next day on
4 Monday and then it was -- that was June
5 the 8th. And then as a result of being
6 sued, the sheriff had me arrested on June
7 the 13th, 2020. That's my understanding
8 of what happened.
9 Because the officer is present
10 when Ms. Thompson broke into my house and
11 wouldn't arrest me. There was no grounds
12 to be arrested. So this was concocted
13 after the fact by the sheriff to have me
14 arrested after the fact, after he was a
15 defendant in a lawsuit and his office
16 required me to file. Of course they
17 probably didn't think I was going to file
18 the sheriff -- against the sheriff but by
19 them forcing Ms. Thompson in my home I
20 felt that I had to have an unlawful
21 detainer judgment against the sheriff as
22 well.
23 Now the sheriff has been
24 appointed to transport me to Florida and
25 that's for a private purpose. He referred
18

1 to documents in this case. There is a


2 showing where there were all kinds of
3 problems with the court not making rulings
4 on the case.
5 This is the motion for default
6 against Sarah May Thompson, it's been
7 signed by the clerk, and yet the court
8 refused to enter judgment and just closed
9 the case. And they closed the case to
10 benefit the sheriff and all the named
11 defendants in the case, Marion County
12 Board of County Commissioners, the Marion
13 County Sheriff's Office, Timothy McCourt,
14 general counsel for the sheriff's office,
15 Lieutenant Welsh of the sheriff's office,
16 Brad King, the state attorney, the Office
17 of the State Attorney for the Fifth
18 Judicial Circuit, Michael Graves, public
19 defender, Office of Michael Graves, public
20 defender, and Susan Bailey, assistant
21 public defender.
22 Long before my arrest and long
23 before Ms. Thompson broke into my house, I
24 tried to get help for Ms. Thompson. She's
25 a heroin addict and a drug addict. And
19

1 all of those persons had a duty under


2 Florida law to help her because she is, I
3 believe, a vulnerable adult because of her
4 heroin addiction, none of them did that;
5 instead, they did everything they could to
6 keep her in my home or near my home and to
7 create conflict in order to arrest me and
8 build up these cases against me because of
9 my lawsuit against the Fifth Judicial
10 Circuit and Judge Craggs over the home's
11 foreclosure. And that case was filed in
12 2018 long before any crimes were -- I was
13 accused of any crimes. And the sheriff's
14 office refused to investigate that matter.
15 Just to give you an example, Your
16 Honor --
17 MS. HOOVER: Judge, I apologize.
18 I'm going to object to this testimony. I
19 believe most of what he has said is not
20 relevant, is hearsay and is not founded in
21 any facts other than his assertions of
22 other people's actions and beliefs, and I
23 don't believe that this Court should
24 entertain this any longer.
25 THE DEFENDANT: Well, these
20

1 documents are filed with the habeas


2 petition, Your Honor.
3 THE COURT: Well, that doesn't
4 make them relevant. You have filed many
5 documents and you certainly have displayed
6 a very deep knowledge of civil and
7 criminal law, and I'm sure you know the
8 difference between civil proceedings and
9 criminal proceedings.
10 And I'm trying to be as
11 accommodating as I can be, but it's hard
12 to see the connection between all of these
13 other things and the extradition, as I'm
14 sure you know, and if you don't know I'm
15 telling you now, that there are very
16 limited issues to be considered in
17 extradition. And that goes to the
18 documents that have been presented by
19 Florida. And you could have waived
20 extradition and been transported back to
21 Florida to face the criminal charges and
22 use all of the defenses that you're
23 discussing here. You know full well, I'm
24 sure, that any civil actions in Florida
25 would not serve to impact the regularity
21

1 of the documents that would be transported


2 to the governor, and upon your exercise of
3 your right not to waive extradition, then
4 it would be up to the governor to either
5 accept or reject the rendition documents,
6 you make reference to those documents in
7 your papers. The Governor of Pennsylvania
8 did accept the rendition papers from
9 Florida. Under the Act, the Extradition
10 Act, the governor's statement and issuance
11 of the governor's warrant, the Governor of
12 Pennsylvania, that requires your
13 extradition to the demanding state. And
14 the only question is Whether you are the
15 person. Number one, that there's a
16 criminal charge against you in the
17 demanding state; two, that you are the
18 person who is likely to be the perpetrator
19 of that crime; that the paperwork that was
20 issued by the governor requires all court
21 and other public officers to act
22 consistent with the direction of the
23 governor. The governor has directed that
24 you be extradited back to Florida. Now
25 I'm sure you know that.
22

1 THE DEFENDANT: Yes, Your Honor.


2 But he signed that governor's warrant
3 before he received my petition for him not
4 to sign it. And that's due to the
5 incompetence and lack of diligence by Mr.
6 Knight. Mr. Knight had an entire month to
7 assist me with that; he did nothing. And
8 the governor signed the governor's warrant
9 on April the 1st --
10 THE COURT: Let me just ask you.
11 Are you contesting that you're the person
12 against whom --
13 THE DEFENDANT: No, I'm the
14 person.
15 THE COURT: -- a criminal
16 complaint has been filed in the State of
17 Florida? You're admitting that, correct?
18 THE DEFENDANT: I'm admitting
19 that I'm the person wanted.
20 THE COURT: And you don't contest
21 that the Governor of Florida has requested
22 that the Governor of Pennsylvania
23 extradite you back to Florida? You're
24 admitting that; don't you?
25 THE DEFENDANT: He did file that
23

1 document. However --
2 THE COURT: So the only thing
3 that you're raising is whether or not the
4 Florida papers are in order based on the
5 things that you've just told me about?
6 THE DEFENDANT: Well, there is
7 more than that, Your Honor. But, yes --
8 THE COURT: Well, what else is
9 there? And it has to be something that's
10 relevant because once the Governor of
11 Pennsylvania accepts the warrant and the
12 rendition documents from Florida, the
13 Court here has no authority to look behind
14 those documents.
15 Now you've done plenty of
16 research on this, I can see that based on
17 the paperwork that you filed, the
18 discussions that you're having now. I
19 looked at your petition for writ of
20 certiorari in the Supreme Court, which
21 many lawyers would not have had the
22 capability of preparing, so you're aware
23 of all of these things.
24 THE DEFENDANT: Yes.
25 THE COURT: And I want to make
24

1 sure that you understand that I'm going to


2 hear what you have to say but there has to
3 be a limit.
4 THE DEFENDANT: Yes. And I am
5 challenging the crimes.
6 THE COURT: You're what?
7 THE DEFENDANT: I am challenging
8 the crimes.
9 THE COURT: Well that's why you
10 are -- that's why you should be sent back
11 to Florida, in order to contest those
12 crimes.
13 THE DEFENDANT: Because -- well,
14 Your Honor --
15 THE COURT: You don't have a
16 trial here. There are no criminal charges
17 pending against you in Pennsylvania.
18 THE DEFENDANT: That's correct,
19 Your Honor.
20 THE COURT: So the only way that
21 you have to challenge those crimes in
22 Florida is to go back to Florida and
23 assert whatever right Florida law provides
24 for you.
25 THE DEFENDANT: This is Governor
25

1 Tom wolf's governor's warrant


2 (indicating). I raised this in my reply
3 to the Commonwealth. This does not have
4 the correct crimes on it. It says:
5 Unlawful interception of oral
6 communication, two counts. That's not
7 correct. And then it repeats it further
8 down: Unlawful interception of oral
9 communication, two counts. That's
10 incorrect.
11 THE COURT: What's incorrect
12 about it?
13 THE DEFENDANT: Because I was
14 charged for unlawful -- well, let me get
15 the exact wording. Unlawful disclosure of
16 oral communication.
17 What this comes down to, and I
18 filed the papers here, this is one-party
19 consent to recording. That's lawful under
20 federal law.
21 THE COURT: That is not something
22 that can be raised here, and you know
23 that.
24 THE DEFENDANT: I don't know
25 that, Your Honor.
26

1 THE COURT: Well, are you asking


2 for a trial here for a determination to be
3 made as to whether or not you were
4 entitled to intercept or to record this
5 person's conversations?
6 THE DEFENDANT: Well, I know that
7 I'm entitled to have the correct crimes on
8 the governor's warrant. Currently,
9 they're not correct.
10 The other thing with the
11 governor's warrant, at the bottom it says
12 no bail. The only time you can have no
13 bail is if I was charged with a capital
14 offense. I'm not charged with a capital
15 offense.
16 THE COURT: That's not my
17 understanding.
18 MS. HOOVER: May I respond, Your
19 Honor?
20 THE COURT: Yes.
21 MS. HOOVER: As to the governor's
22 warrant. The governor's warrant should be
23 viewed in its entirety. Contained in the
24 governor's warrant are not only the
25 warrants but also the charging documents
27

1 as to all of the crimes which do include


2 illegal interception of communication.
3 As to the bail. Your Honor is
4 correct, Mr. Gillespie is referencing a
5 statute that regards bail prior to a
6 governor's warrant being issued. At the
7 point at which the governor's warrant is
8 issued, no bail is to be set. And that
9 has been established in case law following
10 the Uniform Criminal Extradition Act. The
11 statute with which he is referencing has
12 to do with an arrest prior to requisition
13 charge which we are no longer here for.
14 THE COURT: Mr. Gillespie, do you
15 contest that?
16 THE DEFENDANT: Well, I contest
17 -- and this goes to the reply to the
18 Commonwealth's response.
19 THE COURT: What are you
20 contesting about what Ms. Hoover has just
21 stated?
22 THE DEFENDANT: Her procedural
23 history is incorrect in her --
24 MS. HOOVER: Judge, I'm going to
25 object. My motion for response is --
28

1 THE COURT: Sustained.


2 Mr. Gillespie, I've given you
3 plenty of leeway to indicate to this Court
4 why extradition should not be complied
5 with.
6 THE DEFENDANT: Well, then I
7 would go to the petition itself. And the
8 petition shows that these crimes are for
9 the sole benefit of Sheriff Woods and for
10 the Fifth Judicial Circuit.
11 THE COURT: What difference does
12 that make with respect to you being
13 extradited?
14 THE DEFENDANT: Because you're
15 not supposed to extradite someone for the
16 private benefit of a corrupt sheriff. A
17 corrupt judicial circuit.
18 THE COURT: This is a crime that
19 has been charged in Florida. The governor
20 has accepted those charges and has
21 directed this Court to extradite you.
22 THE DEFENDANT: Stated another
23 way, Your Honor --
24 THE COURT: Unless there is
25 something relevant that you have to raise,
29

1 I'm going to -- in a few moments I'm going


2 to be prepared to rule on this.
3 I've given you the opportunity to
4 come up with something relevant. I've
5 seen your papers. You don't raise
6 anything in your papers that would
7 indicate there is an adequate basis for
8 not having you extradited. The grounds
9 upon which an extradition is to be decided
10 upon are very limited and you're just
11 dancing around, making statements, but
12 there's really nothing that you have said
13 that would raise an issue that is subject
14 to support any denial of the governor's
15 directions.
16 THE DEFENDANT: Well, we haven't
17 even gone through the petition itself.
18 But I know in the Fifth Amendment --
19 THE COURT: I've read your
20 petition.
21 THE DEFENDANT: Your Honor, I'm
22 entitled to a presentment of a grand jury;
23 not the signature of a Judge I'm suing.
24 That's --
25 THE COURT: A presentment of a
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1 grand jury here in Pennsylvania when


2 there's no crime being charged against
3 you?
4 THE DEFENDANT: In Florida, Your
5 Honor.
6 THE COURT: Well you have to go
7 back to Florida to deal with that issue at
8 that time.
9 THE DEFENDANT: Your Honor, they
10 could have dealt with it there; they
11 didn't.
12 THE COURT: Well, you're here
13 now. And you're being asked by the
14 Governor of Florida to send you back. The
15 Governor of Pennsylvania wants you sent
16 back so you can face those charges.
17 THE DEFENDANT: Well, it sounds
18 like you have your mind made up. I have a
19 notice of appeal to the Superior Court,
20 the motion to stay extradition pending
21 appeal, and a motion to release on
22 recognizance.
23 THE COURT: There is no crime
24 being charged against you here in
25 Pennsylvania.
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1 THE DEFENDANT: Well, I still


2 have a right to appeal your decision, Your
3 Honor.
4 THE COURT: Well, then let me, in
5 terms of the petition, I find as a fact
6 that the Governor of Florida submitted
7 governor's rendition papers, described in
8 the extradition law that is found at
9 Section 42 Pa. C.S.A. 9121. That is the
10 Uniform Criminal Extradition Act where the
11 Governor of Pennsylvania is under a duty
12 to extradite with respect to fugitives
13 from justice on the appropriate request
14 from a demanding jurisdiction, under
15 Section 9123.
16 Furthermore, at Section 9128, if
17 the Governor of Pennsylvania decides that
18 the demand should be complied with, he,
19 the Governor, shall sign a warrant of
20 arrest which shall be sealed with the
21 state's seal, directed to any peace
22 officer or other person fit to entrust
23 with the execution of that warrant, and
24 the warrant must substantially recite the
25 facts necessary to the validity of the
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1 issuance.
2 I find that the requisite facts
3 have been stated appropriately to satisfy
4 that requirement.
5 You have been given your
6 opportunity to pursue your petition for
7 habeas corpus. The hearing has been held.
8 The requisite facts have been admitted;
9 namely, that there are criminal charges
10 pending in Florida, that the Governor of
11 the State of Pennsylvania has accepted
12 that and has issued a directive to this
13 Court to have you extradited to Florida.
14 There have been no other issues raised by
15 the defendant that's recognizable here in
16 this Court.
17 THE DEFENDANT: I'm respectfully
18 disagreeing, Your Honor.
19 THE COURT: You may disagree but
20 that is my ruling.
21 And based thereon, the petition
22 for writ of habeas is denied and the
23 defendant shall forthwith be extradited to
24 the State of Florida to face these
25 criminal charges.
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1 MS. HOOVER: Your Honor, I have a


2 proposed Order to that effect if you'd
3 like it.
4 THE COURT: Yes.
5 THE DEFENDANT: Your Honor, you
6 never considered my reply to the
7 Commonwealth's response.
8 THE COURT: The Order is signed.
9 Remanded to custody without bail pending
10 extradition to the State of Florida.
11 THE DEFENDANT: I'm giving notice
12 of appeal to the Superior Court. I will
13 need copies of this for Ms. Hoover and for
14 the Judge.
15 THE COURT: That's all. We're in
16 recess.
17 (The hearing concluded.)
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C E R T I F I C A T E

I hereby certify that the


proceedings, evidence and rulings are contained
fully and accurately in the notes taken by me in
the above cause, and that this copy is a correct
transcription of the same.

_________________________
John A. Toronzi, CRR
Official Court Reporter

DATED: __________________

The foregoing transcript of the


proceedings before me is hereby directed to be
filed.

_________________________
Hon. Clyde W. Waite

DATED:_______________
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