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The third presidential debate – as it happened

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Thu 20 Oct 2016 05.42 EDTFirst published on Wed 19 Oct 2016 09.09 EDT
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The third and final presidential debate of the 2016 election cycle is in the can. Here’s what happened:

  • Donald Trump said he might not accept the election result. “I will look at it at the time,” Trump said. “I will tell you at the time. I’ll keep you in suspense.”
  • “That’s horrifying,” Hillary Clinton replied. “It just shows, you’re not up to doing the job. He is denigrating, he is talking down our democracy, and I for one am appalled.”
  • At least three Republican senators, among many alarmed voices, immediately objected to the Trump line, with Arizona’s Jeff Flake calling the remarks “beyond the pale”.
  • The debate was surprisingly policy-oriented, with the candidates staking out contrasting positions on abortion, gun laws, Russia and much more. Trump allowed that his supreme court would likely overturn Roe v Wade.
  • Trump rejected questions about women who have accused him of sexual assault, branding them fame-seekers and Clinton campaign plants and saying “I don’t know those people”.

@lucia_graves @guardian Trump lied and lied again. He says he doesn't know any of the women. Well, he definitely knew me. I told the truth

— Jill Harth (@jillharth) October 20, 2016
  • Clinton had a ready response, saying “every time Donald is pushed” – about women, a disabled reporter, the Khan family, John McCain, a federal judge – he denies responsibility and refuses apology.
  • “Donald thinks belittling women makes him bigger,” Clinton said. “I don’t think there’s a woman out there who doesn’t know what that feels like.”
  • Trump interrupted a Clinton answer about social security by muttering, “Such a nasty woman.” His favorite interruption was “wrong.” “Wrong.”
  • A new web site was born: www.nastywomengetshitdone.com.

SUCH A NASTY WOMAN #suchanastywoman pic.twitter.com/csWXsvvtGG

— Jeffrey Young (@JeffYoung) October 20, 2016
  • Clinton turned a question about her emails released by Wikileaks into a challenge to Trump to condemn Russian hacking. He did, provisionally. She called Trump Putin’s “puppet”.
  • Trump said the only reason Iraq was going into Mosul was because Clinton was running for president: “She wanted to look tough.” Clinton said he was trapped in conspiratorial thinking.
  • Trump warned about “bad hombre” immigrants:

Trump: "We have some bad hombres here and we are going to get 'em out"

— Ben Jacobs (@Bencjacobs) October 20, 2016

For the first time, the madness of Trump's ideas rather than the madness of his manner are taking centre stage at tonight's debate.

— Dan Roberts (@RobertsDan) October 20, 2016
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In a brief but jarringly vicious aside towards the end of the debate, Trump leaned in to the microphone to call Clinton a “nasty woman”, slightly undermining his earlier assertion that “nobody has more respect for women than me” (a moment which, according to pollster Frank Luntz, did worse with his live focus group than any other in the debate for Trump).

The response from Twitter was swift and merciless.

2012: "I've got binders full of women."
2016: "Such a nasty woman."

— ☆ Carly ☆ (@roseofbattle) October 20, 2016

Nasty Women 4 Her

— Ellie Shechet (@ellieshechet) October 20, 2016

Nasty woman and proud of it! I hope all you nasty women join us in NYC and Denver to protest next week! https://t.co/HyzXL61zBw #nastywoman

— Shannon Galpin (@sgalpin) October 20, 2016

RT if you're a #NastyWoman pic.twitter.com/I3mBfrv8lP

— HuffPostWomen (@HuffPostWomen) October 20, 2016

I can see the meme now. "It's Hillary...Mrs. Clinton if you're nasty." Apologies to Janet Jackson. #debatenight #Election2016 pic.twitter.com/tqcpo95g0l

— Mario Nacinovich (@nacinovich) October 20, 2016


Many users even changed their Twitter names:

I'm just gonna leave this here. #nastywoman #debate pic.twitter.com/FRyl8XLfc0

— Arthaey Angosii (@arthaey) October 20, 2016

The chair of the national party joins the crowd rebutting Trump on accepting the election result:

RNC Chair Reince Priebus says Trump WILL accept the results of the election

— Chris Jansing (@ChrisJansing) October 20, 2016

Trump himself pointedly refused -- twice -- to commit to doing so. https://t.co/PvPe4vpg9R

— Sabrina Siddiqui (@SabrinaSiddiqui) October 20, 2016

Trump/RNC surrogates: "Who you gonna believe, me or the candidate you just watched on stage?"

— Reid J. Epstein (@reidepstein) October 20, 2016

VIDEO: Donald Trump refuses to say he will accept election results https://t.co/Cvnf87AE6Z

— AP Politics (@AP_Politics) October 20, 2016
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Palin: accept election results 'if they're legit'

Here now is Sarah Palin, in the spin room, looking a bit cornered but firing away. She’s asked about accepting the results of the election. “If they’re legit results then of course they’ll be accepted,” she says.

Palin says Trump will accept election results if they are "legit results" pic.twitter.com/9fvzz5zLBC

— Holly Bailey (@hollybdc) October 20, 2016

Sessions: contesting an election gratuitously 'would be wrong'

This from Alabama senator Jeff Sessions, Trump’s most stalwart backer in the senate, who we can’t remember ever having disagreed significantly with the candidate to this point:

Jeff Sessions in spin room: "It would be wrong for a candidate to contest an election for light and transient reasons."

— Rick Klein (@rickklein) October 20, 2016

Trump, enemy of democracy:
1) My opponent shouldn't be allowed to run
2) If I lose, I may dispute outcome
3) If I win, she will go to jail.

— David Leonhardt (@DLeonhardt) October 20, 2016
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Reactions II

@DouthatNYT it's all a big show for him

— Greg Sargent (@ThePlumLineGS) October 20, 2016

.@realDonaldTrump to @HillaryClinton: "Such a nasty woman" pic.twitter.com/3RsCYd7Abp

— POLITICO (@politico) October 20, 2016

SUCH A NASTY WOMAN #suchanastywoman pic.twitter.com/csWXsvvtGG

— Jeffrey Young (@JeffYoung) October 20, 2016

So "the element of surprise" is Trump's approach to both ISIS and American democracy I guess.

— Molly Ball (@mollyesque) October 20, 2016

The candidate who already is eight points behind just suffere a devastating final debate. #DebateNight

— David Axelrod (@davidaxelrod) October 20, 2016

If Donald Trump wins will he accept the results of this election?

— Susanne Craig (@susannecraig) October 20, 2016

.@realDonaldTrump saying that he might not accept election results is beyond the pale

— Jeff Flake (@JeffFlake) October 20, 2016

Says @VanJones68: "You can't polish this turd" @AC360 responds: "Technically, you can't polish any turd." #Debate

— TimKarr (@TimKarr) October 20, 2016

20 days left. Let's win this.

Make your custom video to show the world why you believe that #LoveTrumpsHate: https://t.co/QQBKlxyU4D

— Hillary Clinton (@HillaryClinton) October 20, 2016

(Warning: Donald Trump Jr trigger alert):

Join my team over on my Facebook page- live now! #Debateshttps://t.co/vpDVQfO58A pic.twitter.com/5v1tWzHrxq

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) October 20, 2016

Reactions I

The five words that matter most in this debate: "I'll keep you in suspense."

— Lois Beckett (@loisbeckett) October 20, 2016

nothing in this debate, nothing in this campaign, nothing in this country matters as much as Trump rejecting USA's 240 year democratic order

— Philip Gourevitch (@PGourevitch) October 20, 2016

"You are such a nasty man"—Something Hillary could never, in a thousand years, say on a stage.

— Jennifer Senior (@JenSeniorNY) October 20, 2016

Palin at her most rogue held it together 10x better than this overboiled carrot.

— southpaw (@nycsouthpaw) October 20, 2016

Now Kellyanne Conway tells @DanaBashCNN that Trump "will accept the results" of the election. Says Trump will win.

— Manu Raju (@mkraju) October 20, 2016

God @KellyannePolls has just an impossible job.

— Ben White (@morningmoneyben) October 20, 2016

Here are the top three tweeted moments of the debate according to Twitter:

Top 3 tweeted moments of the debate via Twitter pic.twitter.com/ppTOPyx3BX

— Tom McCarthy (@TeeMcSee) October 20, 2016

And check out the top most-retweeted tweet of the night:

Do you think Putin will be going to The Miss Universe Pageant in November in Moscow - if so, will he become my new best friend?

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) June 19, 2013

Fact check: healthcare, vets and 'inner cities'

Alan Yuhas
Alan Yuhas

Trump: “Next week [the healthcare premiums] are going to go up 100%”

Trump and Clinton both accept the reality that healthcare premiums have increased since the Affordable Care Act was enacted, but Trump appears to be exaggerating wildly. On average, premiums have risen by about 5.8% a year since Barack Obama took office, compared with 13.2% in the nine years before Obama, Politifact found earlier this year. Trump, however, is cherry-picking data from various states and providers where rates have had higher jumps. The most common healthcare plans will increase 9% on average, according to an analysis by the Kaiser Family Foundation.

Trump: “We take care of illegal immigrants … better than we take care of our vets”

This claim flies in the face of evidence and logic. Like all US citizens, veterans enjoy the basic rights and benefits granted by US law (voting rights, social security, Medicaid, etc), while undocumented migrants (noncitizens) do not. Trump has in the past tried to justify this claim by saying the US spends more on undocumented people than on veterans, but has drawn a $113bn price tag from an explicitly anti-immigration foundation. He also inflated that number.

The campaign has said the US spends $2.8bn on housing migrants in prisons, combining an estimate on prison costs and the 2016 budget for the care and processing of children who came to the US without adults. The Veterans Affairs administration has a 2016 budget of $69.7bn. Veterans and undocumented migrants alike have access to K-12 education, though few veterans would likely seek it, and veterans have access to the Affordable Care Act, military benefits and health benefits, while migrants do not.

Trump: “Our inner cities are a disaster. You get shot walking to the store, you have no education, no jobs”

Trump’s repeated claim that “African Americans, Hispanics, are living in hell” defies most of American history, from antebellum slavery through the Jim Crow decades, great depression and segregation. Even if Trump is only referring the past half century, he is still wrong by most metrics.

Data on employment, education and health show empirical evidence for the persistent reality of discrimination against black Americans, but also show major gains in the last few decades. In 2015, black people earned just 75% as much as whites in median hourly earnings, whether full- or part-time, according to a Pew Research analysis. The black unemployment rate in August 2016 was 8.1%, compared with 4.4% for white people, but still lower than for most of the last 40 years. Black life expectancy has increased from the mid-30s around 1900 to the mid-70s in 2016, according to the CDC. Education rates have similarly increased in the last 40 years, according to the census.

Who won? What was the headline? Trump saying he would keep the country in suspense as to whether he will accept the election result? What was that?

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