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‘The Secret of Us’

Nora and Nathan get into the new Gracie Abrams album, Taylor Swift’s influence on Abrams, whether that influence is helpful or harmful, when Abrams’s songs feel the strongest, and more

By Nora Princiotti and Nathan Hubbard
GRACIE ABRAMS


Nora and Nathan discuss the second studio album from Gracie Abrams: The Secret of Us. They then talk about Taylor Swift’s influence on and close relationship with Abrams, as well as whether that’s helping or hurting Abrams’s music (1:00). Later, they get into how her songs feel the strongest when her lyrics are plain-spoken (39:37), and how, with this album, it seems like Abrams is still trying to find her distinct musical sound (47:46).

Hosts: Nora Princiotti and Nathan Hubbard
Producer: Kaya McMullen

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