Talk:Alison Moyet
This is the talk page for discussing improvements to the Alison Moyet article. This is not a forum for general discussion of the article's subject. |
Article policies
|
Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL |
This article must adhere to the biographies of living persons (BLP) policy, even if it is not a biography, because it contains material about living persons. Contentious material about living persons that is unsourced or poorly sourced must be removed immediately from the article and its talk page, especially if potentially libellous. If such material is repeatedly inserted, or if you have other concerns, please report the issue to this noticeboard.If you are a subject of this article, or acting on behalf of one, and you need help, please see this help page. |
![]() | This article is rated B-class on Wikipedia's content assessment scale. It is of interest to the following WikiProjects: | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
|
misc
editAnonymous user User:24.91.174.93 contributed text now at Alison Moyet/temp, which is copyrighted. Anon claims to be the copyright holder and representative of http://www.alisonmoyet.com/ . Added some legal threats here and here. See also User talk:24.91.174.93 -- Chris 73 Talk 07:52, Jan 1, 2005 (UTC)
- Merged the two articles. Mainly created a discography and copied some text, cutting out the advertisements. Deleted Alison Moyet/temp, but the text can still be found for example here -- Chris 73 Talk 02:02, Jan 2, 2005 (UTC)
Chris, and anonymous contributor, thanks for your work. I hope that all will feel free to edit the text to correct factual inaccuracies.
One thing I remember about Alison is how, I think in 1987, she had a UK single "Loveletters Straight from your Heart" that was number 65 in the BBC annual list for that year [1]. My son used to sing it, though he could barely speak at the time. "ikissername" may well have been his first words. --Tony Sidaway|Talk 14:52, 2 Jan 2005 (UTC)
Clean up tag
editI added a clean up tag as the page looks a bit messy at the moment, also the chronology is all over the place and needs to be sorted out quercus robur 10:25, 2 Jan 2005 (UTC)
discography tables
editarranged albums and singles, although i only have UK chart placings for songs that reached Top 40.... if anyone has chart placings for non-top-40 singles, please add the numbers! :-) -- eo 06:25, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
Photos
editI just added a couple of photos (album covers) to the page, as per the tag on this page, and some 'helpful' new changes patroller has just reverted my changes.
I would be very grateful if you could discuss changes on here or on my userpage rather than reverting them unilaterally. Thanks. kieron 11:20, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
Incidentally, I don't have any promo photos of Alison, only the album covers. Does anyone have a promo photo we can put in the initial paragraph? Thanks kieron 11:30, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
YouTube links
editThis article is one of thousands on Wikipedia that have a link to YouTube in it. Based on the External links policy, most of these should probably be removed. I'm putting this message here, on this talk page, to request the regular editors take a look at the link and make sure it doesn't violate policy. In short: 1. 99% of the time YouTube should not be used as a source. 2. We must not link to material that violates someones copyright. If you are not sure if the link on this article should be removed, feel free to ask me on my talk page and I'll review it personally. Thanks. ---J.S (t|c) 04:23, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
Fair use rationale for Image:Alison Moyet - Hometime.jpg
editImage:Alison Moyet - Hometime.jpg is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in Wikipedia articles constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.
Please go to the image description page and edit it to include a fair use rationale.
If there is other other fair use media, consider checking that you have specified the fair use rationale on the other images used on this page. Note that any fair use images uploaded after 4 May, 2006, and lacking such an explanation will be deleted one week after they have been uploaded, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you.BetacommandBot 18:51, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
Fair use rationale for Image:Alison Moyet - Alf.jpg
editImage:Alison Moyet - Alf.jpg is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in Wikipedia articles constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.
Please go to the image description page and edit it to include a fair use rationale.
If there is other other fair use media, consider checking that you have specified the fair use rationale on the other images used on this page. Note that any fair use images uploaded after 4 May, 2006, and lacking such an explanation will be deleted one week after they have been uploaded, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you.BetacommandBot 18:51, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
"Died" in Background Info ?
editI notice that the "Background Info" now shows "Died 17 Oct 2010, Bangor, Ireland". I can't find confirmation on this anywhere including her official site. And there is no mention of this anywhere else in the article. This looks like an error, but I'll leave the change to someone who knows definitely. 75.0.180.170 (talk) 00:00, 18 October 2010 (UTC)
Sales figures
editSales of 800,000 for UK singles is a massive underestimation. Her 6 Top 10 singles come to about 1.5 million sales. That Ole Devil and All Cried Out both sold around 300,000 copies; Is This Love and Love Letters both sold 250,000+, and Weak and Love Resurrection both sold almost 200,000 each. I'd imagine Invisible sold a few over the Christmas period. Reckon she's on about 1.7 million sales total. rpj — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rpjonesuk (talk • contribs) 14:07, 7 March 2012 (UTC)
- Agreed. Presumably they're talking about certified sales - which is basically her four silver discs added up to 800,000. In fact, silver certifications were for 250,000 pre 1989, so it would add up to one million for these alone. I'll amend the text accordingly, but can't put an exact figure unless we have a source.--Tuzapicabit (talk) 14:13, 19 May 2012 (UTC)
Secondary Education?
editI notice a gap in account of her schooling, saying she attended Markham Wood Junior School. Next sentence begins "After leaving school at 16.." without mention of where she attended after junior school level. Raises question as to whether secondary schooling was in state school or private, and where she was schooled, locally or away from family home? Worth looking to fill that gap, those editors with access to information about that stage of her schooling.Cloptonson (talk) 19:40, 2 May 2013 (UTC)
External links modified
editHello fellow Wikipedians,
I have just modified one external link on Alison Moyet. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:
- Added
{{dead link}}
tag to http://feedreader.com/feed/Full_Issue/12733963 - Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20140607080637/http://www.electricity-club.co.uk/alison-moyet-interview-2/ to http://www.electricity-club.co.uk/alison-moyet-interview-2/
When you have finished reviewing my changes, you may follow the instructions on the template below to fix any issues with the URLs.
This message was posted before February 2018. After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template {{source check}}
(last update: 5 June 2024).
- If you have discovered URLs which were erroneously considered dead by the bot, you can report them with this tool.
- If you found an error with any archives or the URLs themselves, you can fix them with this tool.
Cheers.—InternetArchiveBot (Report bug) 23:00, 25 May 2017 (UTC)
External links modified
editHello fellow Wikipedians,
I have just modified 5 external links on Alison Moyet. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:
- Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20140717233322/http://alisonmoyet.com/?page_id=9224 to http://alisonmoyet.com/?page_id=9224
- Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20130109083449/http://touchbasemagazine.com/2012/06/whats-on-music/alison-moyet-performs-at-the-cornbury-festival/ to http://touchbasemagazine.com/2012/06/whats-on-music/alison-moyet-performs-at-the-cornbury-festival/
- Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20130307230522/http://alisonmoyet.com/?page_id=9408 to http://alisonmoyet.com/?page_id=9408
- Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20130307200444/http://alisonmoyet.com/?p=9485 to http://alisonmoyet.com/?p=9485
- Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20130501145850/http://alisonmoyet.com/?p=9345 to http://alisonmoyet.com/?p=9345
When you have finished reviewing my changes, you may follow the instructions on the template below to fix any issues with the URLs.
This message was posted before February 2018. After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template {{source check}}
(last update: 5 June 2024).
- If you have discovered URLs which were erroneously considered dead by the bot, you can report them with this tool.
- If you found an error with any archives or the URLs themselves, you can fix them with this tool.
Cheers.—InternetArchiveBot (Report bug) 22:55, 1 July 2017 (UTC)
External links modified
editHello fellow Wikipedians,
I have just modified one external link on Alison Moyet. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:
- Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20150222094516/http://www.nottinghampost.com/Interview-Alison-Moyet/story-12185764-detail/story.html to http://www.nottinghampost.com/Interview-Alison-Moyet/story-12185764-detail/story.html
When you have finished reviewing my changes, you may follow the instructions on the template below to fix any issues with the URLs.
This message was posted before February 2018. After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template {{source check}}
(last update: 5 June 2024).
- If you have discovered URLs which were erroneously considered dead by the bot, you can report them with this tool.
- If you found an error with any archives or the URLs themselves, you can fix them with this tool.
Cheers.—InternetArchiveBot (Report bug) 09:16, 7 December 2017 (UTC)
Stonewall letter
editI've edited this for greater clarity. The letter she signed was not attacking Stonewall for "supporting trans rights" as an earlier version had it, but for a failure to act against bullies trying to silence gender criticism. You could link to the letter itself, but I've stayed with a reputable newspaper. 95.145.211.32 (talk) 22:47, 4 October 2018 (UTC)
- Hi just seeing your post now. The link you used is an opinion piece. Opinion pieces are generally not considered reliable sources. The Reuters article I found was the only non-opinion piece I saw on this letter from a mainstream news source and it see the letter as being over trans rights. Rab V (talk) 02:15, 5 October 2018 (UTC)
That's not an opinion article. That's a news article by Lucy Bannerman, who writes news, not opinion. It was in the news section of the paper. If we disagree on what's news and what's opinion, then let's link to the letter itself (as I will do now). Please don't politicise this Wikipedia entry. 95.145.211.32 (talk) 19:00, 5 October 2018 (UTC)
Oh, and now I see it has been reverted as "vandalism". Wow, that's pretty scary. Almost as if Alison Moyet has a point about free speech and censorship? 95.145.211.32 (talk) 19:27, 5 October 2018 (UTC)
- The mention doesn’t even make sense grammatically. Everything Moyet has ever said or done is not notable. Actor James Dreyfus who signed that same letter has made such issues a staple of his personal life yet there is no mention on his page. Moyet recanted her support for it and has shared her views on myriad topics. We can’t and shouldn’t be listing them all. Transgender issues haven’t been a notable concern of hers throughout her career. Partyclams (talk) 19:07, 7 October 2018 (UTC)
^^^ Agreed. It's barely relevant. 95.145.211.32 (talk) 19:21, 7 October 2018 (UTC)
Not a very good photograph
editI think it is a pretty poor photograph. It would be better if it was a more natural photograph 86.139.194.37 (talk) 20:41, 19 June 2022 (UTC)
Name
editIs there any confirmation, that her legal name is Ballard? The first sentence claims so, but there is no mention in the article afterwards, and she is always known as Alison Moyet. Pibwl ←« 08:46, 22 March 2023 (UTC)
- See article:
- "Geneviève Alison Jane Ballard MBE (née Moyet /ˈmɔɪ.eɪ/ MOY-ay; born 18 June 1961)..."
- "...her current husband David Ballard."
- After marrying David Ballard her family name changed to Ballard.
- Hinnerk R (talk) 12:16, 22 March 2023 (UTC)
- Again: I am asking if there is any confirmation for this sentence, apart from the fact, that somebody wrote such header? Pibwl ←« 09:45, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
laugh
editwhy is this topic not a thing 2601:642:4000:EA70:4D5C:F76B:CE:4595 (talk) 03:39, 20 November 2023 (UTC)
- I don’t know. Bearian (talk) 17:06, 6 August 2024 (UTC)
Date of birth/age
editOne never asks a lady her age, but I found a possible source on the Wayback Machine. May I add it, or is she private about such things? Bearian (talk) 17:29, 6 August 2024 (UTC)
- See WP:DOB for guidelines about publishing DOB on Wikipedia. Generally there should be more than one source, and they need to be reliable. Laterthanyouthink (talk) 23:21, 6 August 2024 (UTC)