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(Hebrew)
editThere is no water-related word marah in Hebrew AFAIK. The only instance I can find is here, and it's obviously a place name, coming from the root mrr (which means bitter, i.e. it's called marah because of its bitter water). In any case, the root Indo-European root m*r (for sea) is not related to Hebrew. A water-related word that starts with M in Hebrew should obviously be מים maim - water.
—Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.65.83.15 (talk) 23:17, 25 January 2006
(The letter's names)
editWhy do the english speaking world say mu (as in moo, the sound cows make). I learnt it as mi and thats how greeks say it -- Slogankid
—Preceding unsigned comment added by Slogankid (talk • contribs) 17:53, 15 February 2007
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its MI for crying out loud !!!
—Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.78.15.63 (talk) 21:36, 28 June 2007
- Actually, the correct spelling is My (and Ny). Mu and Nu are not correct. 91.55.105.211 20:46, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
- No its not. Even in greek its spelt mu but thats pronounced me--Slogankid 19:58, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
- You are both wrong, and so is the article. The correct spelling is 'M'.
The classical pronunciation is 'mu', the modern one is 'mi'.
Guido den Broeder (talk) 00:19, 9 January 2008 (UTC) Note: This contrib is currently attributed to the banned user User:Roadcreature, to whose talk page GdB's talk page redirects; i haven't tried to research whether there was a renaming of the account.Jerzy•t 07:41, 19 December 2009 (UTC)- Yea, I agree.Grk1011 (talk) 00:59, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
- You are both wrong, and so is the article. The correct spelling is 'M'.
- No its not. Even in greek its spelt mu but thats pronounced me--Slogankid 19:58, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
- Actually, the correct spelling is My (and Ny). Mu and Nu are not correct. 91.55.105.211 20:46, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
- The correct writing is My, as well as Ny and Ypsilon. In Italian, the y is replaced by i since the Italian language doesn't know the letter Ypsilon. A Greek y is pronounced like French u or German ü, but in both languages the letter µ is written My an not Mu or Mü respectively. So, My ist the correct word, Mu is nonsense. --93.232.217.12 (talk) 21:05, 17 September 2012 (UTC)
Why mu?
editWhy say English-speakers “mu” instead of “my”? I mean you say system, not sustem, then why hubris and mu? Thank you. Kuddeldaddeldu (talk) 11:14, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
- well "my" wouldnt be the right way, it would be "mi" because the other way would be "my" as in my car, my pencil, etc. Y makes a different sound in English than it does in Greek.Grk1011 (talk) 00:59, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
- And the same applies to u. The Greek "y" sounds very much alike the French "u" or the German "ü". And nevertheless, the letter is calley My in both languages. --93.232.217.12 (talk) 20:57, 17 September 2012 (UTC)
(Past participle of "to spell")
editThe following contrib was so obscure that it took inordinate effort to even be satisfied that it was a single contrib. I have therefore not only improved the formatting (esp by collapsing what were improperly marked up as 4 'graphs into one well formatted one), but also taken the unusual liberties of making insertions (identified with italics) and striking thru troublesome characters and words.--Jerzy•t 07:41, 19 December 2009 (UTC)
In: the section "Modern Greek", the accompanying article says
- In Modern Greek, the name of the letter is spelt μι and is pronounced [mi].
But spelt is the wrong word. It should be "spelled".
—Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.127.223.98 (talk) 14:03, 20 February 2008 (UTC) & aggressive clarifying changes by Jerzy•t 07:41, 19 December 2009 (UTC)
- Both wikt:spelt and wikt:spelled are correct. EdC (talk) 01:09, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
- Thanks for the backup. Grk1011 (talk) 01:11, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
- Wikt could never come close to offering adequate evidence that both are acceptable, but last i checked we had the guideline that where the topic does not focus the article onto American or Commonwealth culture, the choice of British or American spelling falls to the first contributor who uses a non-shared spelling.
My research so far fails to bear on whether this impression of mine is accurate:- "Spelt" is generally seen as archaic in Amer usage, but persists significantly in British.
- If that impression is correct, the use of "spelt" is fine -- tho i never use it myself.
--Jerzy•t 07:41, 19 December 2009 (UTC)
- Wikt could never come close to offering adequate evidence that both are acceptable, but last i checked we had the guideline that where the topic does not focus the article onto American or Commonwealth culture, the choice of British or American spelling falls to the first contributor who uses a non-shared spelling.
- Thanks for the backup. Grk1011 (talk) 01:11, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
- I use spelled and spelt contrastively. "I spelled the word wrong", but "the word is spelt correctly". VIWS talk 02:49, 28 July 2011 (UTC)
Pronunciation
editWhile there is obviously a healthy amount of debate here as to the pronunciation of the letter in isolation, I have yet to see an explanation in the article itself as to how mu is pronounced within a word. This seems as though it would be more pertinent information to a student of Greek than the other, more esoteric, facts provided. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.107.153.143 (talk) 22:49, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
m--41.237.233.185 (talk) 09:04, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
The pronunciation guide doesn't actually have an entry. According to the Mu page the pronuciation is mŷ?! Search the pronunciation page and weep. -- M-streeter97 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.165.31.218 (talk) 13:24, 9 September 2011 (UTC)
µ-roots
editWhat are µ-roots? I can't find any mention of them anywhere else and have never heard of them in my mathematics classes. Would have added a "citation needed" but the page is protected
89.12.33.192 (talk) 18:39, 25 August 2011 (UTC)
- Come to think of it, we have used µ(n) to mean the set of n-th primitive roots of unity. If that's what's meant, then I think the article should at least clarify it. 89.12.33.192 (talk) 18:43, 25 August 2011 (UTC)
- I deleted the reference: "the µ-roots of a complex number z = a + bi" This makes no particular sense, and just links to "complex number", where of course it cannot be found. Although the notation µ(n) to mean the set of n-th primitive roots of unity is plausible, it seems unlikely to be a standard, because in discussions of cyclotomic polynomials the Mőbius function µ(n) keeps popping up. All webidence looks like it was seeded from this article. (Sorry, I don't know a fancy wikiname for this, though there probably is one.)
- Imaginatorium (talk) 18:47, 29 June 2012 (UTC)
i want to know the vlue of mu
editi have tried manyalue of mu place but not able to find the v so request you tlue o kindly issue the value of mu thanks sir please reply as soon as possible — Preceding unsigned comment added by 1.23.167.0 (talk) 10:50, 2 April 2012 (UTC)
sound when spoken
edit~VKB 0937 UT 16.7.2012 - could this be considered? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.195.185.229 (talk) 09:38, 16 July 2012 (UTC)
Meat science?
editIs this actually what the section is meant to be called? 09:18, 24 June 2013 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 138.38.24.108 (talk)
It looks like this has been sorted since you posted. Granted, it has been 3 years.
Word meme?
editUnless this is something about the topic I'm not understanding, is there supposed to be
(meme)
in the introductory text, or is this different to the common usage of the word meme?
Itskieran (talk) 20:05, 5 December 2016 (UTC)
Mu is a greek letter. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.54.8.70 (talk) 11:58, 13 September 2017 (UTC)
Too much writing for a simple thing
editBoth Greek letters M (m) and N (n) ought to be pronounced Mi (mi) and Ni (ni) respectively. There are no letters Mu and Nu pronounced letters in the Greek alphabet. --Aristo Class (talk) 12:16, 26 July 2019 (UTC)
There are two unicode characters for mu
editSo there are two unicode characters for mu:
- µ (U+00B5 "MICRO SIGN")
- μ (U+03BC "GREEK SMALL LETTER MU")
Apparently some software consider them identical when they are used as a translingual sign. I wonder if there is any situation in which one is the correct or preferred one. --Z 11:24, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
- It seems that μ (U+03BC "GREEK SMALL LETTER MU") is always preferred, even when the meaning is 10-6. See micro-. catslash (talk) 11:43, 21 May 2020 (UTC)