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Why does every tennis page insist on referencing Jack Kramer's book? Seriously, just make a page about that book so that if anyone cares about Kramer's opinion they can read about it. The book and its opinion are so horrifically out of date that it's silly for us to even be talking about it still. (What does it matter what Gonzales's forehand clocked in at when every top modern player can easily surpass that?) I really want wikipedia to remove all these meaningless Kramer references. The places Ellsworth Vines above Bjorn Borg. Should Kim Clijsters and Serena Williams be included on the list of great forehands? Their forehands are very good, but they are generally considered to be the much weaker and inconsistent side of both of those players.

Personally, I don't think they should be there, but I don't know that much about modern tennis. I think that "great" forehands, backhands, etc. should be reserved for those players, male or female, who are universally renowned for these particular stokes, such as Johnston, Vines, Kramer, Segura for the forehand, Budge and Rosewall for the backhand, etc. etc. Once there are more than, say, 8 or 10 players listed for each category, that category becomes devalued and mostly meaningless. Hayford Peirce 22:00, 6 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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can we have a better picture? one that accurately describes the forehand and is more technically correct? ▓░ Dark Devil ░▓ ( TalkContribs ) 06:06, 19 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Forehand Grips

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This sections tells the reader nothing about the different grips for the forehand, which is a major part of the stroke. I propose further dividing this section into four sections titled Western, Semi-Western, Eastern, and Continental. Each section would discuss the history of the grip, the usage today of the grip, and the pro's and con's of the grip compared to the other grips. Yaanch 16:44, 10 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Great Forehands

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Something needs to be done about this section. There's just too many names listed there. Also, do people agree that the mention of Blake's short against Faurel should be removed? We've all seen some absolute bullets over the years. I don't think that particular shot deserves a mention nor do any else really. Depor23 (talk) 06:26, 29 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I agree wholeheartedly. Anyone could add (and has done?) any player's name, and unless there's a citation as a wp:RS, then the reader of the encyclopedia has no way of knowing whether the entry is justified. Strictly, I believe that - if we keep this section at all - every player listed should have a wp:CITE to justify their inclusion. Same for several strokes in tennis (& other sports I dare say). Trafford09 (talk) 14:25, 5 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I'm now being wp:Bold, and removing this 'yet another' list of players without wp:RS.
Feel free to add (or re-add) any player, providing you can also at the same time supply a wp:RS for each player, to justify their forehand claim. --Trafford09 (talk) 09:42, 24 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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