Talk:Robert L. McLeod

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Review: July 28, 2024. (Reviewed version).

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A fact from Robert L. McLeod appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 7 April 2024 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that Centre College co-president Robert L. McLeod served for fifteen months on a U.S. Navy aircraft carrier while Robert J. McMullen, the other co-president, ran the school's day-to-day operations?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2024/April. The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Robert L. McLeod.

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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by AirshipJungleman29 talk 18:50, 31 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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... that Robert L. McLeod and Robert J. McMullen were co-presidents of Centre College from September 1944 to November 1945? Source: 1, 2
- ALT1: ... that Robert L. McLeod and Robert J. McMullen were co-presidents of Centre College for fifteen months while the former served in the United States Navy?
- ALT2: ... that Robert J. McMullen was hired as co-president of Centre College while Robert L. McLeod, the other co-president, was on leave in the United States Navy?
- ALT3: ... that for fifteen months, Centre College co-president Robert L. McLeod served in the United States Navy on an aircraft carrier while Robert J. McMullen, the other co-president, ran the day-to-day operations of the school?
- Reviewed: Herobrine, List of Seattle SuperSonics seasons

Created by PCN02WPS (talk). Self-nominated at 23:54, 6 March 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Robert L. McLeod; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.[reply]

Thank you PCN02WPS for two well-written articles. Both articles were recently expanded 5x, well-written and within policy. No image so no problem there. No qpq's have been done, so that needs to be addressed. Furthermore, I find the hook in its present form a bit lacking. I imagine that an arrangement of having two co-presidents of colleges are not extremely rare; at least it does not strike the reader immediately as something particularly intriguing. However, the reason they were co-presidents is that one of them was serving onboard an aircraft carrier in the Pacific Ocean during World War II. That is actually quite unexpected an interesting. Could perhaps the hook be elaborated a bit, to tease the reader into reading the articles, using this fact? I think there are options here. Let me know what you think. Kind regards, Yakikaki (talk) 19:03, 8 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- @Yakikaki: thanks for the review. I have added 3 QPQs above (one for each nominated article and an extra since we're in unreviewed backlog mode) and added some alternate hooks to take your suggestions into account. PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 21:07, 8 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  - Great, thanks for the quick response! I think all three ALT hooks work well, and are properly supported by inline citations. QPQ also done now. Good to go! Yakikaki (talk) 21:26, 8 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

We are in WP:QPQ backlog mode. Double reviews are required.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 06:53, 17 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@TonyTheTiger: I was told by Launchballer that this only applied to nominations made after the backlog mode was activated. PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 15:26, 17 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I misread the 6 as an 8. Sorry for the confusion.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 18:53, 17 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Restoring the previous tick by Yakikaki superseded by TonyTheTiger, who should make very sure all of his incorrectly superseding "review again" icons are themselves superseded by the original icons. Thank you. BlueMoonset (talk) 03:01, 18 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review

Passed. ❤History Theorist❤ 19:49, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

This review is transcluded from Talk:Robert L. McLeod/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Nominator: PCN02WPS (talk · contribs) 23:55, 6 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewer: HistoryTheorist (talk · contribs) 18:19, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I am going to review this article for the GAN review drive and hope to add comments shortly. As I am not a super experienced reviewer, I will ask for a second opinion, as is the rules for the backlog drive. ❤History Theorist❤ 18:19, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Good Article review progress box

Criteria: 1a. prose () 1b. MoS () 2a. ref layout () 2b. cites WP:RS () 2c. no WP:OR () 2d. no WP:CV ()

3a. broadness () 3b. focus () 4. neutral () 5. stable () 6a. free or tagged images () 6b. pics relevant ()

Note: this represents where the article stands relative to the Good Article criteria. Criteria marked are unassessed

In both the lede section and the career section you mention that After the war's end McLeod resigned. While you, I, and probably a lot of educated Western readers know what war you are mentioning, I think it might be helpful to mention the specific war at least once in the article.
Following his time in Louisville he studied at the University of Edinburgh from 1923 to 1924 and, after his return to the United States, he spent time at Princeton Theological Seminary and Union Theological Seminary. Longer sentence would read better if broken up.
Winter Haven, Florida is linked three times in the article. Perhaps linking it in the personal life section is unnecessary?
- @HistoryTheorist: all three done. PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 15:30, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  - Thanks. I'm still not done examining the article; just the type of reviewer who likes to add comments as they go. I don't think it will need much more fixes but I haven't looked through the entire article throughly. I will ping you when I am done. ❤History Theorist❤ 17:13, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
In that job, he worked closely with Charles J. Turck, who had left office as president of Centre College in 1936 and was working for the PCUSA's Board of Christian Education in Philadelphia at the time I know that you worked on the Turck article, but nothing in your citations points to him leaving in 1936. Perhaps find a citation in the Turck article and move it here?
- Done. PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 12:41, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
If it is possible, perhaps give page numbers on the interview citations? While I was checking one of the sentences, I nearly got lost and thought there was OR when there really wasn't and page numbers would have been beneficial.
- Added page numbers. PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 12:41, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Clarifying question: when McLeod recounts his experience, he calls his ship the USS Antetha. How were you able to ascertain that he actually meant the USS Antietam?
- Added cite. PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 12:41, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
While you wrote that McLeod retired for good in 1981, I don't the interview giving a specific year for his "real" retirement. Perhaps you could point me to where you got that date?
- I got that since he said he'd been retired for two years in the 1983 interview. PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 12:41, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Makes sense; all good now :) ❤History Theorist❤ 16:45, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@PCN02WPS: Unless I find some other minor grammar/wording error, I think the article is good to go once you dress my final comments and is most likely going to pass. Because of the backlog drive rules, I'll find somebody else to double-check my work. ❤History Theorist❤ 00:01, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

For anybody who is performing an assist -- I spot checked all citations except those I didn't have access to, mainly the books cited and the ancestry citation (reliable because it is an official gov record). ❤History Theorist❤ 00:05, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@HistoryTheorist: Happy to help. simongraham (talk) 06:35, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@HistoryTheorist and Simongraham: everything taken care of or responded to! PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 12:41, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.