Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Fără Cuvinte

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. WP:NPASR, but I don't see enough to delete as uncntested PROD here. Courcelles 00:03, 22 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Fără Cuvinte

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Per WP:NSONGS, single that has not charted, uses many YouTube videos to establish citations, and contains much a significant amount of prose that is uncited. Hasteur (talk) 13:04, 1 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Romania-related deletion discussions. Hasteur (talk) 13:09, 1 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. Hasteur (talk) 13:09, 1 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Music-related deletion discussions. Hasteur (talk) 13:09, 1 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Comment. If we remove all self-published sources, we're still left with something workable: Evenimentul Zilei, Gândul and Realitatea, which are all mainstream media outlets in Romania. Given that Romanian musical press almost doesn't exist, this might be enough for passing the WP:GNG. Of course, the article needs to be pruned of the OR based on youtube videos.- Andrei (talk) 14:52, 1 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Comment. Andrei is right, Romanian press is almost non-existent and that makes it very hard to find reliable sources, I've only put Youtube links to interviews with the group and Loredana Groza to try and support the information about the song and music video and to show the single's release date. The song has charted on the 1Music channel charts, that is the only place it's airing. I've alsoe added the 1Music Channel website and showbiz.ro, well-known Romanian outlets as sources in the article.(talk) User:cutkiller 20:26, 1 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Based on the fact that it's only charted on the 1Music charts (and that we don't have an article for the organization) it's probably a fair assertion that it hasn't qualified for the "Songs that have been ranked on national or significant music charts" claim on the NSONGS list. If there are very few Romanian press sources, then it makes it very difficult to judge notability with the default in our case to not-notable. Hasteur (talk) 18:19, 1 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I've added the MTV and Europa FM website as sources, as these are major Romanian media outlets and they mention the single. I don't think the Youtube links qualify as "self-published" since they are part of an interview with a TV station that uploaded the video on their own account.User:cutkiller (talk) 14:57, 2 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Albums and songs-related deletion discussions. — Gongshow ^Talk 18:43, 2 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:03, 8 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, BusterD (talk) 00:42, 15 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.