Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/IMerit (2nd nomination)

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The result was delete. Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 17:04, 16 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

IMerit

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No indication of being notable. Fails WP:SIRS, WP:ORGIND, WP:CORPDEPTH. Advertisement. scope_creep^Talk 22:27, 1 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Companies-related deletion discussions. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 22:53, 1 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of India-related deletion discussions. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 22:53, 1 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Delete As per nom, while taking a first look, there are some reliable sources can be seen like The New York Times, Financial Times and Wall Street Journal but none of them talks indepth about this company. Just mentions hence fails WP:CORPDEPTH and WP:SIGCOV. Grailcombs (talk) 18:20, 2 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Blocked sock. MER-C 12:47, 13 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Keep the company has had significant global coverage in outlets viewed as highly reliable including the Financial Times, the New York Times, the Wall Street Journal, AP, the Hindu and Forbes.It has a major social mission, pulling poor people, primarily women in India out of poverty by working within the world of AI. It is a notable company covered by recognized reliable Wikipedia sources.Miaminsurance (talk) 00:04, 6 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Blocked sock. MER-C 12:47, 13 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Agree with assessment of Miaminsurance. New York Times, the Wall Street Journal are major publications. Also having financial backers such as Pierre Omidyar and Michael Dell, should be worth some notability points. Expertwikiguy (talk) 02:25, 6 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Blocked for WP:UPE. MER-C 19:06, 13 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Agree with assessment of Miaminsurance and Expertwikiguy. Even if the mentions are not yet in depth, the publications that covered the entity are top-tier. In addition to having the notable financial backers that Expertwikiguy mentioned, they were able to raise significant funding in 2020, despite global economic issues. Their social mission is laudable as well, and combined with AI technology, makes for a notable endeavor. IrishChick2012 (talk) 21:00, 6 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: IrishChick2012 is a blocked UPE sockmaster, see Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/IrishChick2012. --Blablubbs|talk 08:40, 14 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

It is a startup, with all-paid advertising. Lets examine the references:

New York times: Based in India, iMerit labels data for many of the biggest names in the technology and automobile industries. It declined to name these clients publicly, citing confidentiality agreements. But it recently revealed that its more than 2,000 workers in nine offices around the world are contributing to an online data-labeling service from Amazon called SageMaker Ground Truth. Previously, it listed Microsoft as a client. That is a paragraph inside and article. It is mention and fails WP:SIRS
Forbes 2012, former HP executive Radha Basu opened a center in Metiabruz to train young women in data analysis, cloud support and other digital services. Since then, her Palo Alto, Calif.-based social enterprise firm, iMerit, has hired more than 250 women in Metiabruz, who serve clients including Microsoft , eBay and Catholic Relief Services. They make up to 10 times what their families once earned. “They’re able to have some choice and independence but stay within the community, which means they’re developing it from within,” says Basu, who founded iMerit in 2012. That is mention as well as well and fais WP:ORIND vis-a-vis WP:SIRS
The Hindu IMerit to create jobs]. Its a press-release. Its fails WP:SIRS and WP:CORPDEPTH
Wall street Journal [1] iMerit (Asia) iMerit hires and trains economically challenged people so they can provide data services to customers around the world. Their team of trained, in-house data experts enriches and annotates the data that powers algorithms in machines learning, computer vision and other data-driven applications. To date, iMerit has provided data services to over 100 global enterprises. One paragraph listing as profile, as listing. That fails WP:SIRS. It is not-indepth, not independent. 1 of 17.
AP News And for 25-year-old Shamima Khatoon, her job annotating cars, lane markers and traffic lights at an all-female outpost of data-labeling company iMerit in Metiabruz, India, represents the only chance she has to work outside the home in her conservative Muslim community. A tiny paragraph. Fails WPCORPDEPTH and WP:SIRS. Clearly non-independent either. AP News is the top journalistic outfit, anywere in the west, according to jounalists who look at these things. But poor reference.

The last reference is the Wall Street Journal and you must assume it is good, per Wikipedia consensus. However, going on through the these sources which are poor and past experience finding out that WSJ puts takes in a huge number of paid advertisements. Last, why is article even on Wikipedia. It is a clear brochure with no-redeeming features. It does say that they are all women, it is a sweat-shop company, so they have paid somebody to write on an article on here. There are millions of these companies. These companys have been known about in the web gaming world for more than 20 years, at least since about 2007-2010 for mainstream IT. I remeber my mate talking about them in 1999, whe big MMORPG, APB which failed, was being started to get built. Fails WP:NCORP. scope_creep^Talk 17:15, 7 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Comment I will abstain from voting here but the page is live because I am the one who approved it through AfC using the same standard as always ("more than likely to pass AfD discussion"). I can honestly say that I HATE approving articles such as these as I know it is likely only submitted to AfC because of someone wanting to promote the business. However, being that it met notability imho, I added the advert tag to the top because of the tone of the article. Other than that, I cannot believe we can dismiss the NYT article. They do publish advertisements but they are labeled as such. They felt the company notable enough to send a reporter to the location and do an in-depth article. --CNMall41 (talk) 02:11, 8 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Keep based on keep arguments and AFC approver CNMall41's comments above, this company meets WP:GNG, specifically having an in-depth coverage in NYT and mention in WSJ are significant and I do not agree with the nominator that these kinds of publications can be bought. It's just absurd to say that! Just because an startup gets good coverage, you cant accuse them of having paid PR, unless you can prove it.Webmaster862 (talk) 02:22, 9 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: The more stringent WP:NCORP has not been addressed thoroughly.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ~ Aseleste (t, e | c, l) 16:18, 9 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Technology-related deletion discussions. ~ Aseleste (t, e | c, l) 16:20, 9 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - bad-faith undisclosed paid-for spam, see Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/SpareSeiko. MER-C 12:49, 13 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - If it is notable, which it is not clear that it is, independent editors will create it later. We shouldn't reward bad-faith UPE practice (socking, and possibly extortionism as well, I read). Also note that one of the keep !voters, IrishChick2012's comment, is their first edit in three years, and the first of only two edits they've made recently, the other one being to a similar AFD. Regards! Usedtobecool ☎️ 14:04, 13 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - I nominated this a few weeks back but pulled the nomination after realizing the references weren't as bad as I thought. Having read that this was a byproduct of WP:UPE I say burn it down and let someone write it from scratch from a neutral point of view. nearlyevil 665 20:00, 13 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: It clearly fails WP:ORG, and is an advert by a now-blocked UPE. Java Hurricane 04:41, 15 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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