Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Council Wars
- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was soft delete. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. Liz Read! Talk! 07:50, 28 March 2024 (UTC)
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Sci-fi book series. Sadly (I liked this in my younger days...) this article seems to fail WP:GNG. Unreferenced too. My BEFORE fails to find anything. ISFDb lists only one review for first and third book in the series ([1]) so it may be hard to even try to argue that book reviews for individual books here might save this. In either case, what we have is just a plot summary with some old and unreferenced fan speculation about the series' future. Per WP:ATD-R, this can be redirected to the author's bio, where the series is mentioned (or maybe better, to John Ringo bibliography). Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 12:51, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Science fiction and fantasy and Literature. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 12:51, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
- I found a newspaper source and according to the ISFDb there were reviews in two zines, Deep Magic and FOSFAX, for two of the novels. Not sure how usable those would be but worth mentioning. It looks like this certainly wasn't one of Ringo's most notable series, though. ReaderofthePack(formerly Tokyogirl79) (。◕‿◕。) 14:07, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
- Looks like there was an official review from RPGnet ReaderofthePack(formerly Tokyogirl79) (。◕‿◕。) 14:11, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
- Also a SF Site review - I can't remember if they're usable or not. ReaderofthePack(formerly Tokyogirl79) (。◕‿◕。) 14:15, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
- SF Site is fine I think, at least we describe it as magazine. But RPGNet is not reliable (AFAIK those are just forum reviews, user generated) and zines are generally not reliable (they are also tagged in red by Headbomb's reliable sources script). Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 06:32, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
- Aw, that stinks - it looked like it was posted by the site rather than a random user. I'll keep looking when I can! ReaderofthePack(formerly Tokyogirl79) (。◕‿◕。) 14:47, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
- SF Site is fine I think, at least we describe it as magazine. But RPGNet is not reliable (AFAIK those are just forum reviews, user generated) and zines are generally not reliable (they are also tagged in red by Headbomb's reliable sources script). Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 06:32, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
- Also a SF Site review - I can't remember if they're usable or not. ReaderofthePack(formerly Tokyogirl79) (。◕‿◕。) 14:15, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
- Looks like there was an official review from RPGnet ReaderofthePack(formerly Tokyogirl79) (。◕‿◕。) 14:11, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗plicit 14:18, 13 March 2024 (UTC)Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, The Herald (Benison) (talk) 14:41, 20 March 2024 (UTC)Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Final relist.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, The Herald (Benison) (talk) 17:19, 27 March 2024 (UTC)
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