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Outlander by Diana Gabaldon
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did not like it
bookshelves: i-wanted-to-love-this, not-safe-for-the-breakfast-table, abandoned-books

I gave up on this book because I was sustaining permanent damage from reading it and I was afraid I'd start hitting back. And it's a borrowed copy, so that wouldn't be cool.

In fairness, I should say there's a lot of good writing here. I really enjoyed the beginning chapters. They even kind of cracked me up, because I have friends who love genealogy and their husbands always get that look when they start talking about it and that's exactly how I imagined Claire looking when her husband Frank started droning on and on about his ancestors.

And Claire is a nurse, which is a really good transportable skill if you're going to be thrown back in time which it turns out Claire is. (Sorry. Spoiler alert.) Can you imagine if you were one of those Nerds On Wheels computer repair people and you got sent to eighteenth-century Scotland? You'd be totally screwed.

But Claire's skills come in handy without seeming out of place. A woman who's a dab hand at healing is always welcome in Olden Tymes, so Claire is able to land on her feet and kind of get a job once she figures out what happened to her and comes to terms with it.

Which is pretty much immediately. Which is when the book started to lose me. There's, like, no culture shock whatsoever. She gets knocked back two hundred years or so. She goes, "WHOA. What the flimminy?" She starts being The Lady To Go To With Your Eighteenth-Century Scottish Boo-Boos. That's it.

There are a few mentions of things like how shoes fit differently back then and anachronistic language, but there's no sense of the kind of thing a person from the future would be startled by. Not the food, not the weird underwear, nothing. Claire just settles in and starts being the resident nurse at a castle. She keeps half an eye out for a chance to get to the place that can take her back to the future, but it has all the deep emotional urgency that I feel when I really should stop by the grocery store on the way home but it won't kill anybody if I go tomorrow instead. Like, whatevs.

Still, there was plenty to keep me interested. Like – leeches! The stuff about leeches was cool. And the info about healing herbs. And that kid getting his ear hammered to a board because he was caught stealing.

Really, this book would have worked fine for me if it hadn't been for what everybody else seems to love about it, which is the Romantic Interest. Which still would have been fine, even with the whole SHE'S MARRIED ALREADY thingy.

But, okay – let's say that she has to marry that guy. They aren't in love when they get married and so the whole point of the book is to watch their relationship develop, while Claire struggles with guilt and fear and thoughts of how her real husband must be worrying about her and how the heck does time-travel work in this book and WHY IS SHE JUST ASSUMING THAT TIME IS GOING BY IN THE FUTURE AT THE SAME RATE IT IS FOR HER? WHY, I ASK YOU?

(Sorry. I'm a minor-league nerd, and this part really bugged me.)

So what I just described would have been a book I could read and enjoy, or at least read and not scream in pain. But apparently someone gave Diana Gabaldon the creepiest piece of writing advice EVER, and it was this:

"Listen – you know how if you're cooking and you're worried it's not turning out very well, just add bacon if it's savory and chocolate chips if it's sweet and everybody'll love it? Well, if you're working on your first novel and you don't know what to have happen next, just throw in some rape! Or attempted rape! Works like a charm!"

She follows this advice to the letter, and I'm sorry but I have to go home now.

I managed to read the "she disobeys him so he beats her with his belt" scene. I almost punched the book right in the face, but as I said, it's a friend's copy so I had to be nice.

Then I managed to get through the "she forgives him for the beating, like, the next freakin' day" scene. I started fantasizing about this book getting stuck in the elevator of a burning building, but I was able to hold on and keep going.

Then there was the scene where Big Kilted Oaf – I mean, Jamie – starts laughing about the whole beating thing and reminiscing about how hot she looked when he was holding her down beating the crap out of her and she forgives him for that, too. Like, instantly. And I'm all, "WHO AM I AND WHAT AM I DOING HERE?"

And still I staggered on. Heaven only knows why.

And how did the author reward me for my perseverance? What is this book all about? What's the recurring literary theme?

Rape. Attempted rape. More attempted rape. Marital rape. A little more marital rape. Conversations about rape. GIGGLING during conversations about rape.

And I'm all, "I'M OUT OF HERE AND I DON'T CARE HOW MANY OF MY FRIENDS HATE ME."

I read 444 pages in a row, plus I skimmed a lot of the rest of it including the creepiest, rapiest Chekhov's gun I've ever seen fired. Do NOT tell me I didn't give this book a fair chance. I TOTALLY DID.

In case you need proof, here's a list of all the things I learned about rape from Outlander.

1. It's a bummer for the woman involved, but save your sympathy for her brother. (Assuming you have any emotional response at all, which you won't if you're Claire.)

Jamie tells Claire about his sister Jenny being raped by a dastardly redcoat. He has a good chuckle talking about how Jenny punches and kicks her attacker. She isn't able to hold him off forever, though. And Jamie gets flogged for trying to defend her.

Claire's response?

"I'm sorry. It must have been terrible for you."

It is terrible for Jamie to have his sister "dishonor herself wi' such scum." (Nice.) So terrible that he can't bring himself to go back home to her when he gets out of prison, and "see her again, after what happened." She's impregnated by the rape. Left on her own both emotionally and financially, she is forced to become the mistress of another English soldier. Jamie finally sends her what money he can, but can't bring himself to write to her. Because, you know, "what could I say?"

Claire's response?

"Oh, dear."

(Really -- how could I give up on this book when the main character is so sympathetic?)

2. Rape can lead to comically inaccurate ideas about how people do "the nasty!"

After Jamie and Claire consummate their marriage, Jamie confesses that he "didna realize that ye did it face to face. I thought ye must do it the back way, like; like horses, ye know." Claire tries to keep a straight face as she asks him why on earth he thought that.

"I saw a man take a woman plain, once, out in the open. But that...well, it was a rape, was what it was, and he took her from the back. It made some impression on me, and as I say, it's just the idea stuck."

So of course Claire flips out and asks him what the heck that was all about. Who was it? Why was he witness to a rape "out in the open"? Was he able to help the woman? What happened to her?

Oh. Wait. This is Claire the Emotionless. She doesn't ask him anything, and he doesn't say anything else on the subject. Instead, they cuddle and talk about how much fun what they just did was.

Because a story about rape out in the open is just the kind of pillow talk a woman wants to hear when she's relaxing after a nice bout of bigamy.

I mentioned I loved this book, right? I didn't? Good.

3. Nearly getting raped turns you on for Mr. Right!

Jamie and Claire are off on their own in the woods for a spot of marital bliss when they're set upon by highwaymen. Claire is nearly raped, but manages to kill her assailant. Yes, she was a nurse during World War II, but I think there's a difference between witnessing violence and inflicting it yourself. She kills the guy in the nick of time. He's on top of her, so she undoubtedly gets his blood all over her. Meanwhile, Jamie manages to dispatch the other two guys.

And then Claire flips out about the fact that she was just attacked, and she had to kill a guy, and she had to kill a guy at close quarters with a knife.

Oh. Wait. This is Claire. She has no response to any of this, now or later.

Well, she does have one response:

When I put my hands on his shoulders, he pulled me hard against his chest with a sound midway between a groan and a sob.

We took each other then, in a savage, urgent silence, thrusting fiercely and finishing within moments.


If your marital love life has been a bit blah lately, why not get attacked and then kill the guy? It'll spice things right up!

4. It's not rape if it's your husband and he promises he'll hurry...

"Jamie! Not here!" I said, squirming away and pushing my skirt down again.

"Are ye tired, Sassenach?" he asked with concern. "Dinna worry, I won't take long."


(next page):

He took a firm grip on my shoulders with both hands.

"Be quiet, Sassenach," he said with authority. "It isna going to take verra long."


I gather it's especially not rape if your husband has an ethnic-slur nickname for you. He should use this at least three times a page. (Yes, "Sassenach" is derogatory. It'd be like if you were white and your husband called you his little gringo. Although that would actually be kind of funny if he's white, too. I think I want to get my husband to start calling me that now. But I digress.)

5. ...or if it's your husband and he just really, really wants it.

Claire is saying no, and no again. She's still in pain from the last time they did it, because he didn't take no for an answer even when she told him quite honestly he was hurting her.

So how does our romantic lead respond?

James Fraser was not a man to take no for an answer. ...Gentle he would be, denied he would not.

I quoted that last line to my husband, and he got the same look on his face that I had on mine all through a two-day bout with food poisoning.

If this book works for you, fine. I'm not here to judge. I'm just asking that you understand how completely creeped out I was by all this, and not tell me I didn't give it a fair chance. I did. I really hate not finishing a book once I start it, but I just couldn't stand it any more.
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Reading Progress

August 5, 2014 – Started Reading
August 5, 2014 – Shelved
August 5, 2014 –
page 1
0.12% "A friend was kind enough to lend me her copy a while back. Now I'm feeling the pressure from all these GR ads for the movie or TV show or whatever it is. I need to see what all the fuss is about!

(I'd better like this book. This is her favorite series ever. I think she would pick this over Harry Potter, even.)"
August 6, 2014 –
page 15
1.76% "No, I decided. Dropping the [red-hot, cheap tin] teapot was a perfectly normal reaction. Dropping it into Mr. Bainbridge's lap was merely an accident of placement; I had to drop it somewhere. It was my exclaiming "Bloody fucking hell!" in a voice that topped Mr. Bainbridge's heartcry that had made Frank glare at me across the scones.

Claire is a keeper. Husband Frank seems to be a dud."
August 6, 2014 –
page 26
3.06% "Life among academics had taught me that a well-expressed opinion is usually better than a badly expressed fact, so far as professional advancement goes.

Nicely put.

Also, have I mentioned that her husband (the academic in question) seems like a dud? Good thing we have reason to expect a manly dude in a kilt to whisk Claire away! With magic or something!"
August 6, 2014 –
page 33
3.88% ""I see she's got her blouse cut down to her breakfast..."

Okay, this is now my favoritest phrase ever. I'm going to try to work this into every conversation for the next week or so, at least."
August 6, 2014 –
page 42
4.94% "Getting up once in the dark to go adventuring is a lark. Twice in two days smacks of masochism.

A woman I could love!"
August 7, 2014 –
page 61
7.18% "Hey, look! A hot, injured, 18th-century Scottish guy! I wonder if Claire's going to hop up and apply some of that 20th-century medical knowledge she packs!"
August 7, 2014 –
page 63
7.41% "Yep.

"You'll break his arm if you do it like that," I snapped back. "Stand out of the way, please." I elbowed Rupert back and took hold of the patient's wrist myself.

I like her."
August 8, 2014 –
page 85
10.0% "Could this Captain Randall possibly be Frank's ancestor, the soldier with the sterling record, gallant on the field of battle, recipient of commendations from dukes? And if so, could someone related to my sweet gentle Frank possibly be capable of inflicting the horrifying marks on this lad's back?

Still not seeing how it's going to turn out to be okay for her to marry someone else."
August 9, 2014 –
page 108
12.71% "In spite of his size, the man had an amiable expression...

The really huge buff men I've known are the best-natured people you could hope to meet, because they don't have anything to prove. A former neighbor of mine looked just like that big bald guy from "Raiders of the Lost Arc." He used to walk around beaming at everyone. I think he wanted to set people at ease. He knew how intimidating he looked."
August 11, 2014 –
page 109
12.82% "The shoes I had been given did not distinguish between right foot and left, being in either case only an oblong of formed leather, which made graceful maneuvering difficult.

Nice historical touch. This book has many."
August 12, 2014 –
page 115
13.53% "Mmm. Leeches!"
August 12, 2014 –
page 136
16.0% ""Tell that one to the barn door, laddie; it's no more brains than to believe ye."

Another one for my "use this phrase!" list. (Except I think I'd better not attempt a Scottish accent while I'm at it.)"
August 12, 2014 –
page 166
19.53% "Okay. Claire's a strong, active female character in an interesting situation. Good.

Now: could she possibly have any emotional reaction to ANYthing? Could she find this situation the least bit weird? Yes, she had that one bit of weeping. That's IT? She's fine now? No biggie?

I've practically forgotten her husband's name, and I feel as if she has, too."
August 13, 2014 –
page 170
20.0% "I had heard, appalled, the reports that trickled out of postwar Germany: the stories of deportations and mass murder, of concentration camps and burnings. And like so many others had done, and would do, for years to come, I had asked myself, "How could the people have let it happen? They must have known, must have seen the trucks, the coming and going, the fences and smoke. How could they stand by and do nothing?""
August 16, 2014 –
page 199
23.41% "What luck! Now I wouldn't have to try to escape from the castle. ...I could find my own way without much difficulty. To Craigh na Dun. To the circle of standing stones. And with luck, back home.

Okay. She's scrappy and spirited and plucky and stuff. She also hasn't mentioned her husband in over a hundred pages, and doesn't mention him even now that she thinks she's headed back home to him! What gives?"
August 19, 2014 –
page 222
26.12% "Am I supposed to like a character who watches an unfair fistfight (three against one) and thinks to herself, "Huh. Looks like that guy's getting the crap beaten out of him. He may even die," and has no emotional response?

I'm not loving this book or Claire, is what I'm saying. But I can't stop reading, because then all the people who do like it will say I didn't give it a fair chance. (sigh)"
August 20, 2014 –
page 225
26.47% "Murtagh was one of those men who always looked a bit startled to find that women had voices.

Sadly, some things never change."
August 21, 2014 –
page 241
28.35% "Note to self: Google "saint's pool.""
August 21, 2014 –
page 250
29.41% "And now we have it: why she has to get married.

I actually get it. I accept her going through with this ceremony. I just don't see why she'd fall in love with this guy. Of course, I'm a little farther in my reading than I'm admitting here, and I've seen what a prize he incredibly isn't; but even now, he's just a big kilted oaf. If that's your type, fine, but it's nothing to be proud of."
August 21, 2014 –
page 266
31.29% "Why the Sam Hill isn't she comPLETEly freaked out about the risk of infection here? She's a bloody nurse!"
August 21, 2014 –
page 283
33.29% "Okay. He just told Claire that he "saw a man take a woman plain, once, out in the open. But that...well, it was a rape, was what it was."

And her reaction to his witnessing a rape is: NOTHING. No horror. No "Well, did you at least try to STOP the bastard, you big kilted oaf?" No, "Holy carp, I'm living where women get raped 'out in the open.' Get me out of here!" NOTHING.

Get me out of here."
August 21, 2014 –
page 294
34.59% "Does this woman have ANY SOUL AT ALL?

Claire already knew that Jamie's sister had been raped, and that Jamie's physical scars date from that horrible episode. Now Claire learns that Jamie's sister became pregnant after being raped by the man who beat her brother almost to death.

Claire's response? "Oh, dear."

That's IT.

HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE I HATE THIS BOOK."
August 24, 2014 –
page 444
52.24% "AAAAAAARGH.

Okay. I give.

DNF at 444, which I guess is as cool a number as any to die on.

Review to come, and I'll increase my reading challenge number so I'm not Cheater McCheaterpants when this unfinished tome counts toward my score.

I TRIED SO HARD, PEOPLE."
August 25, 2014 – Finished Reading
May 22, 2015 – Shelved as: i-wanted-to-love-this
May 22, 2015 – Shelved as: not-safe-for-the-breakfast-table
May 22, 2015 – Shelved as: abandoned-books

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message 1: by Jenna (new) - added it

Jenna I'm the same. I a couldn't finish it.


Deborah Markus Jenna wrote: "I'm the same. I a couldn't finish it."

At first I thought it would be, "Well, it's fine, but I'm not much of a romance reader." Now I WANT TO KILL THIS BOOK.

And I still have, like, 500 pages to go, dang nab it.


message 3: by Jenna (new) - added it

Jenna Me too!! I stopped right about where you are. I just didn't like the main character at all!


message 4: by Brigid (last edited Aug 25, 2014 08:51AM) (new)

Brigid this book, ugh this book and its ridiculous "romance". Notice I use quotes! this is no fucking romance. Emotionless drool.


Deborah Markus Brigid (evil owl master) wrote: "this book, ugh this book and its ridiculous "romance". Notice I use quotes! this is no fucking romance. Emotionless drool."

Right??? I thought the worst that could happen was that I'd be reading a romance novel and I'm not much of a romance reader. Boy howdy, was I wrong.


message 6: by Brigid (new)

Brigid i put this next to the horror that is Jude Deveraux's books. Ew.


Deborah Markus Brigid (evil owl master) wrote: "i put this next to the horror that is Jude Deveraux's books. Ew."

I haven't read her. Now I'll be sure not to!


Sara Hemenway I read this at least 7 years ago and I remember liking it enough to read the second book in the series, but I stalled out halfway through the third and never picked it up again. This is one of the books that I would probably rate differently if I read it again, but I'm too scared to do that at this point. :p


Heather ~*dread mushrooms*~ I enjoyed a Jude Devereaux romance or two back in the day, but when I tried rereading them last year I could barely make it through the first chapter. HORRIBLE. So much slut-shaming and "real woman" talk and ... ugh.

Also, great review. :)


Deborah Markus Sara wrote: "I read this at least 7 years ago and I remember liking it enough to read the second book in the series, but I stalled out halfway through the third and never picked it up again. This is one of the ..."

I know what you mean, Sara! It's so horrifying when you reread a book and think, "Oh, my GOD -- I liked this???"


Deborah Markus Heather wrote: "I enjoyed a Jude Devereaux romance or two back in the day, but when I tried rereading them last year I could barely make it through the first chapter. HORRIBLE. So much slut-shaming and "real woman..."

I know I'll hate myself for asking, but what kind of stuff would be "real woman" talk?

And thanks! I'm glad you liked the review!


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Jenna Great review! You touched on everything that bothered me as well.


Deborah Markus Jenna wrote: "Great review! You touched on everything that bothered me as well."

Thanks, Jenna!


Heather ~*dread mushrooms*~ Deborah wrote: "I know I'll hate myself for asking, but what kind of stuff would be "real woman" talk?."

Like when the petite, curvy heroine hates her body and compares herself to thin model-types, but the hero always like her better because she's built like a "real woman." Because thin women aren't REAL! This happens a lot in modern-day romances, or at least it used to.


Deborah Markus Heather wrote: "Deborah wrote: "I know I'll hate myself for asking, but what kind of stuff would be "real woman" talk?."

Like when the petite, curvy heroine hates her body and compares herself to thin model-types..."


(smh) Ah, yes.

Look, I think it's lovely if someone says, "Are you kidding? Your curves are gorgeous! I love them! I want them! Bring them over here right now!" But why does it have to turn into, "You know those women you compare yourself to? It turns out they're the icky ones, not you!" How does this help anyone?

I know I'm preaching to the choir here, but I have a hard time shutting up about this.


JaHy☝Hold the Fairy Dust " If your marital love life has been a bit blah lately, why not get attacked and then kill the guy? It'll spice things right up" ... I like adding spice to my marriage but this is a little too spicy. :-)

Fantastic review. You stated your opinion in a humorous , un-hurtful manner. I can't wait to read more of your reviews


Heather ~*dread mushrooms*~ Deborah wrote: "I know I'm preaching to the choir here, but I have a hard time shutting up about this.."

It's okay. You can vent about this whenever you want. I'll listen! :)


Deborah Markus JaHy♕ Bitchy Goddess ♥'s everything CrAzY ☿ wrote: " " If your marital love life has been a bit blah lately, why not get attacked and then kill the guy? It'll spice things right up" ... I like adding spice to my marriage but this is a little too sp..."

Thank you so much, JaHy! Your reviews and updates always crack me up!


message 19: by Lucy (last edited Aug 25, 2014 10:10AM) (new) - rated it 1 star

Lucy I started this book early this summer but had to put in on hold because it wasn't holding my interest. I didn't get very far in, only about 15%. I also found it ridiculous how Claire adapted so quickly to the medieval time period and she sure forgot about her first husband with a quickness. She never seemed upset about the fact that she might never see him again.

Great review.


message 20: by JaHy☝Hold the Fairy Dust (last edited Aug 25, 2014 10:11AM) (new)

JaHy☝Hold the Fairy Dust Deborah wrote: "JaHy♕ Bitchy Goddess ♥'s everything CrAzY ☿ wrote: " " If your marital love life has been a bit blah lately, why not get attacked and then kill the guy? It'll spice things right up" ... I like ..."

Girlie, your review cracked ME up. I loved your thoughts. I never started the series due to its length . Let me do the math ...

800+ pages x 80 years for me to finish ( I read at a snails pace).

Thanks to your review, I know it's best I stay away from this series as the heroine would piss me off to infinity and beyond.


message 21: by Carmen (new) - added it

Carmen Deborah - Amazing review. This, all of this, is why I have still not picked up OUTLANDER, even though it is all the rage right now. When you started reading it, I was curious as to what you'd say about it - you have an opinion I trust - and you just confirmed all my fears. So, this series will probably remain unread by me.


message 22: by Jean (new)

Jean Ugh. Bleargh. No thank you. (And I want to add, what does it say about our society that books featuring rape-as-normal are so very popular?)


message 23: by [deleted user] (new)

Don't think I'll ever be able to read this one...just not my bag. I feel like I would rage quit.

Awesome review lovely.


message 24: by Brigid (new)

Brigid I read the first three....YOU KNOW NOTHING OF MY PAIN! god the pain *cries in shame*


Desinka A great review. I was even more persistent than you and finished it. I felt the very same.


message 26: by Christine (last edited Aug 25, 2014 12:43PM) (new) - rated it 5 stars

Christine Hayton Please don't kill me - but I read this book and most of the series because of the historical references. I am Scottish and enjoy historical novels when the events are accurately displayed.

Rape unfortunately was very common in that time period, and the attitude about women was quite disgusting. It was a feudal system for Scotsmen and the English were the rulers and felt entitled.

I thought it was well written and historically accurate. I can appreciate that it would be quite disgusting by today's standards. I did quit the series with the sixth book - because of the repetition and I got really bored.

Your review is really expressive and your opinion I can definitely understand.


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Lucy Christine wrote: "Please don't kill me - but I read this book and most of the series because of the historical references. I am Scottish and enjoy historical novels when the events are accurately displayed.

Rape un..."



Yes rape was common then but the heroine was coming from a different time period, the 20th century. Her reaction to the rape is baffling imo.


Christine Hayton I agree that part is a bit baffling.


message 29: by Julio (new)

Julio Genao oh, fuck this book. honestly.


message 30: by [deleted user] (new)

I am so sick of Outlander fever, I can't even. Your review is like a glass of water in the desert.


message 31: by Jax (new)

Jax That. Was. Awesome.


Deborah Markus Carmen wrote: "Deborah - Amazing review. This, all of this, is why I have still not picked up OUTLANDER, even though it is all the rage right now. When you started reading it, I was curious as to what you'd say..."

I'm pretty sure I may have made this clear already, but I do NOT recommend this book. (Such a shame, isn't it? Remember my early updates? I was so young and full of hope...)


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Carmen Deborah wrote: "Carmen wrote: "Deborah - Amazing review. This, all of this, is why I have still not picked up OUTLANDER, even though it is all the rage right now. When you started reading it, I was curious as to..."

I didn't want to crush that young, hopeful spirit, which is why I didn't say "You will hate it. Avoid." Also, if you HAD loved it (doubtful, but possible), I would have felt guilty for making it sound horrible when you were just staring out.


Deborah Markus Vera wrote: "(This popped up in my feed. It's a great and well-thought out review, congrats!
I was about to pick this up because of the gazillion glowing recommendations, the tv-show, and all that, til I came a..."


Hi, Vera! Thanks so much, and hiii right back!

I went into this book practically blind. Pretty much the only things I knew were that she went back in time and she's married in her present day but still marries someone else in the past. I thought that would be quite problematic enough, philosophically and emotionally.

I thought the harsh historical stuff my friends hinted at were things like the boar hunt that happens fairly early on. A man is badly wounded, and Claire knows that she might have been able to save him in a modern hospital but there's no way he'll survive here. There's a really great moment where she realizes that if she stops the bleeding, she's condemning him to die slowly and agonizingly of an infection. She manages to express the hopelessness of the situation to his clan leader, and they hold his hand and give him the quicker, more merciful death of bleeding out.

That was a terrific scene, darn it. Why wasn't the rest of the book like that? Why'd there have to be so much of the wrong kind of horrifyingness?


Deborah Markus Jean wrote: "Ugh. Bleargh. No thank you. (And I want to add, what does it say about our society that books featuring rape-as-normal are so very popular?)"

It says a lot of scary stuff, if I may answer a rhetorical question. But I think it's a sign of hope that a lot of people are seriously unhappy about this aspect of this series -- and I truly think that even the people who enjoy the books understand that the issues reviewers like me raise are legitimately problematic. So that's something, anyway.


Deborah Markus Linda wrote: "Terrific review.

I gave up on the first book long before 444 pages and for other reasons than those cited here, but it's a cinch that big hard cover book would have landed against the wall if I'd ..."


Thanks, Linda! Yes, your wall (and possibly your copy of the book) would have sustained quite a dent if you'd gotten much farther!


Deborah Markus Carmen wrote: "Deborah wrote: "Carmen wrote: "Deborah - Amazing review. This, all of this, is why I have still not picked up OUTLANDER, even though it is all the rage right now. When you started reading it, I w..."

Yes, it's just as well I saw for myself!


Deborah Markus Kat Stark wrote: "Don't think I'll ever be able to read this one...just not my bag. I feel like I would rage quit.

Awesome review lovely."


"Rage quit" is exactly the phrase needed here! And thank you!


Deborah Markus Brigid (evil owl master) wrote: "I read the first three....YOU KNOW NOTHING OF MY PAIN! god the pain *cries in shame*"

(pats Brigid's back) I'm here for you, sweetie!


Deborah Markus Desinka wrote: "A great review. I was even more persistent than you and finished it. I felt the very same."

Thank you! And congratulations on making it all the way through!


Deborah Markus Christine wrote: "Please don't kill me - but I read this book and most of the series because of the historical references. I am Scottish and enjoy historical novels when the events are accurately displayed.

Rape un..."


I promise not to kill anyone who's so nice to me even though I don't like a book she loves!

I agree the writing is very good. (Honestly, I think the scenes I mention in my review would have bothered me less if they hadn't been described so skillfully, because I would have been able to distance myself a bit!) I admired scenes like the boar hunt I mentioned in a previous comment, and the part where she wants to help the boy who was caught stealing and has a sickening flash of insight regarding the people who didn't speak up against the Holocaust.


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Mermarie If your marital love life has been a bit blah lately, why not get attacked and then kill the guy? It'll spice things right up!

LOL, because death is the closest thing to a decent orgasm that a girl has to hold onto these days. o.o

ROFL.

Loved the review! I do not intend to read this, and the hype is little more than a welcoming repellent.


Deborah Markus julio wrote: "oh, fuck this book. honestly."

One of the many reasons we love you, julio: you get straight to the point.


Deborah Markus Karla (Mossy Love Grotto) wrote: "I am so sick of Outlander fever, I can't even. Your review is like a glass of water in the desert."

Aw, thanks, Karla! I'm always happy when I enjoy bestsellers (Harry Potter, the Bridget Jones books). It's like being at a great big party where we all have at least one thing in common to talk about. But this one...yeah, no.


Deborah Markus Jax wrote: "That. Was. Awesome."

Thanks so much, Jax!


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Nate Great review. After reading about this book WAY too much over the past month or two I'm failing to understand why it doesn't get lumped in with cheesy Harlequin stuff. It seems like weird wish fulfillment gone way out of hand.


Christine Hayton Nate wrote: "...Great review. After reading about this book WAY too much over the past month or two I'm failing to understand why it doesn't get lumped in with cheesy Harlequin stuff. It seems like weird wish fulfillment gone way out of hand..."

This is NOT a Harlequin Romance. I read the original book in 1991 and at that time it was Historical Fiction. I'm sure the current hype came from the promoters of the TV Series - now its Romance???

This is a well-written historical novel. There is romance, but the writing alone puts it well above the trash you're talking about. Maybe you should read it before you pass judgement based on TV hype and one review.



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Nate Christine wrote: "Nate wrote: "...Great review. After reading about this book WAY too much over the past month or two I'm failing to understand why it doesn't get lumped in with cheesy Harlequin stuff. It seems like..."

Hi, Christine. I seem to have offended you! Pissing off fans of this book is not my intention, I assure you. It's true that I have not read this book, but I've gleaned my information from way more than a single review, and the TV show has had little to no bearing on my perception of the book's contents. Am I wrong in saying that the main plot of the series is the ongoing relationship of Claire and Jamie? I could be wrong, but I hardly think that one of the two dies at any point in the ongoing series (save maybe the end) and the rest of the series focuses on new characters and the continuing political situation in Scotland. Thusly, the series seems to me to be mainly based on Jamie and Claire's relationship--making it a romance. Please correct me where I'm wrong.


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Carmen Nate wrote: "Hi, Christine.

Nate - You're so classy. I like it. :)


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Nate Carmen wrote: "Nate wrote: "Hi, Christine.

Nate - You're so classy. I like it. :)"


No reason to not be polite! If I didn't want to hear others' opinions on stuff I wouldn't be anywhere near this site :D


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