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Radiance by Catherynne M. Valente
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bookshelves: bottom-shelf, bepretentious, postmodern, scififantasy, detailed-review

Because I am unable to resist the seductions of irony, here is a quote from Robert Downey Jr.:

This is probably going to get quoted in every publication just because I said it. And I’m not even saying anything. I’m not talking about my films, I’m not talking about my life, and I’m not talking about the world. And yet, the media will print it simply because I said it. And at this moment in time, I bet there is an artist around the corner of this hotel, on the street, with a mind far beyond ours, but we will never listen to him simply because he has not appeared in a movie.

He goes on to say, “And that is what is fucked up about our culture,” but that’s not the point I’m trying to make.

Instead, I’d like to appreciate for a moment the popularity of celebrities and the compelling nature of fiction in general. We all have known the experience of watching a film and finding ourselves on the edge of our seats, empathizing with the characters. This, even though we know that they are just actors, in NO DANGER whatsoever, and that, even if “based on a true story,” what’s actually happening on the screen is an artificial construct, no more real than a golem’s dream. Yet there we are, caring. Somehow these characters in their imaginary worlds approximate truth in a way that actual reality, confusing and indeterminate as it is, cannot.

Many people, particularly a certain stripe of intellectual, would call us fools and escapists, mere addicts of the phantasmagorical. I know a fellow who foreswore all fiction and instead dedicated himself exclusively to documentary film and non-fiction books (and also joined a nudist colony). David Foster Wallace in his essay E Unibus Pluram suggested our television obsession causes a chain reaction of disassociation in which American fiction writers get their dosage of reality from fiction – which is itself written by personages who have based their reality on consumed fiction – thereby creating a recursive spiral down the rabbit hole, until what we think is reality is not real but an infinitely regressed, telephone-game garbled version of it.

Even if I were to agree in principle, I would not agree in sentiment. I think humanity’s capacity for empathy is nothing short of amazing.

I'd say that when we engage in narrative, we are exercising our empathy muscles. All forms of narrative do this, but the intimate nature of written literature does it best. A good book – with complex, diverse characters and morally gray situations – is the empathy version of a Crossfit workout. As such, I’d claim that readers are, if not the best people in the world, at least the most empathetic. I believe our pathetic little meatsack hearts, brimming with narrative and character, carry on the great work of humanity in a way that the mighty wielders of the sword and the hammer and the abacus do not. I say that the greatest and most beautiful machine or theory, wielded without empathy, is not only inhuman, but antihuman.

Alas, Radiance demands little exercise of our empathy muscles (or perhaps too much). It’s not that it doesn’t contain complex characters, morally gray situations, or a great imagination, but that they are not presented in an engaging manner. Instead the author utilizes language, structure, genre, and form as ends unto themselves, rather than as means to an end (that end typically being the exploration of humanity). Put simply, the author Catherynne Valente wanted to eat her cake and have it too. To quote from an interview she had with John Scalzi:

I’m not going to lie. This book is crazypants. I threw everything I had into it. Heart and soul and probably some cartilage and eyeball fluid, too. I wanted to write a melodrama about a wild, living and breathing and squabbling Solar System. I wanted to write a horror-romance about huge, elemental aliens. I wanted to write a non-linear postmodern SF novel that was also a page-turning thriller because I secretly always wanted to write a hardboiled noir murder mystery. I wanted to write a badass adventure about film patents. I wanted to write a book about movies. About seeing and being seen. About what the camera does to us when it never leaves our side. About who has the right to speak, and who has to buy it. About the meaning of science fiction in a science fictional universe. And through it all I wanted to write about a lost girl who didn’t come home. It all hangs together, I promise!

Alas, Catherynne Valente, you’ve made a promise you couldn’t keep. Not for this reader at least. It doesn’t hang together. It’s too much in too little space. Worse, you’ve committed the one sin no author – whether her book is a non-linear postmodern narrative or not – can commit: you didn’t give us a reason to care.

Now those who do like this book might argue that I’m committing the affective fallacy. That I’m critiqueing a piece of literature based on how it makes us FEEL (as opposed to what it makes us think). They would trumpet the book’s non-linear narrative and metafictional elements as an explicit choice that may make the book more difficult to read but that is NECESSARY to the story’s ultimate purpose: To explore the subjective nature of reality, and of film’s intersections with it, and the methods and consequences of how and where we choose to focus the spotlights of our eyeballs, ears, and minds.

I would counter that not all non-linear narratives are created equal. Even if the mere EXISTENCE of a non-linear narrative OUGHT to tell us the author is trying to make some metafictional comment about genre or narrative, that doesn’t mean she actually accomplished her aims. I’d go further still: even the ACCOMPLISHMENT of these aims wouldn’t necessarily make the book worth reading. Instead, each reader must ultimately ask him or herself, is the metafictional exploration of genre worth reading if the author has failed to provide a compelling underpinning of humanity?

My complete lack of engagement with this novel would answer a resounding NO.

But do not mistake this as MERELY an opposition to postmodern fiction. True enough I consider postmodern lit a form of intellectual masturbation, but a 1-star rating from me is an even greater condemnation. I think Radiance is a particularly bad example of post-modern lit.

By way of contrast, I’d bring up Italo Calvino’s post-modern book If On A Winter’s Night a Traveler. That book is in many ways as difficult and experimental as Radiance. But I love it. I love it because underpinning its non-linear structure is a humor and keen sense of the absurd that give readers a reason to care.

More technically, Calvino’s novel plays with structure by way of concatenation. By this, I mean it tells micro-stories compelling in their own right but then ends them at the height of climax, a level of tease to make any Arabian concubine proud. A Winter’s Night’s meta-story is then about the reader (often pronounized as ‘you’) in his search to find the rest of the story and therefore closure. Story structure thus mirrors story theme: how readers engage with narrative as a whole and how our expectations for a standard narrative structure (rising action -> climax -> falling action -> denouement) have become inculcated in us and in fact now inform our fundamental conceptualizations of things like romantic relationships, life and death, and even our debates on intelligent design versus the theory of evolution. Deep deep stuff.

Catherynne Valente, as the above quote reveals, thinks she’s also writing about deep deep stuff. But the difference is that Radiance's form and content have a fractious, dissonant (and unengaging) relationship. In a different interview with Clarkesworld Magazine, she writes:

I had to give myself permission to do certain things, use certain tricks—like including scripts, audio, shifting POV, and the other ephemera and metafictional elements you mention. It’s pretty much a postmodern free-for-all. At first I kept thinking: I can’t just describe what’s onscreen in a movie inside the book. That just makes it look like I’d rather be making a movie. I had to get to a point where I could say: I actually can do that because it’s my book and that’s the right way to do it.

That phrase – “a postmodern free-for-all” – says it all. The book is a mish-mash of ideas and forms, its structure a shotgun spread rather than a sniper’s intimate voyeurism. The quote as a whole is an admission of self-indulgence. She includes scripts, audio, shifting POV, and other ephemera and metafictional elements not because doing so highlights explorations on “seeing and being seen; on what the camera does to us when it never leaves our side; on who has the right to speak, and who has to buy it; and on the meaning of science fiction in a science fictional universe” – but because she bloody well wanted to, propagating the mistaken post-modern confusion that MERE EXPLORATION of structure is, BY ITSELF, evidence of great and skillful artifice, if not authorial courage, and therefore worthy of being read.

Well I disagree. I would quote Picasso when he wrote, “In my opinion to search means nothing… To find is the thing. Nobody is interested in following a man who, with his eyes fixed on the ground, spends his life looking for the purse that fortune should put in his path. The one who finds something no matter what it might be, even if his intention were not to search for it, at least arouses our curiosity, if not our admiration.”

As I read through Radiance’s self-indulgent epilogue (which amounts, quite clearly, to the author justifying her decision to use a shotgun structure because “humans do not proceed in an orderly fashion from one scene to the next” – which, by the by, is a standard postmodern claim that is completely false. Au contraire, it is the tragedy of humanity that we have no choice but to creep in a chronologically linear fashion from scene to scene and tomorrow to tomorrow until the last syllable of our borrowed time); its boring essays from fictional film critics; its lists of ship’s manifest (and here I thought I left that self-important scheiss behind back on Walden Pond); and its long rants mistaking high-octane, purple prose like, “the Earth fucked the sky and made a hundred children” for genuine exploration of humanity – as I went through all this, I was never once engaged mano y mano. This was no story but a magic show by a patchwork golem, a dazzling array of images and words that held all the cohesive meaning of a fireworks display. I was never shown why any of these characters might have a superior grasp than I do on, e.g., who has a right to speak, or what it means to be seen, or what the camera does to us when it never leaves our side. Worse, I was never shown why I should CARE what any of these characters think.

In short, I would argue Radiance failed to ever find, or demonstrate, humanity in necessary quantities to overcome the artificiality of its narrative and structure. Its demands on my empathy muscles came far too late, far after it had lost me.

Earlier, I brought up Italo Calvino’s If on a Winter’s Night, a Traveler as a successful example of postmodern literature. It is therefore with great irony (and thus also circularity) that I believe the concluding paragraph from NY Times’ 1981 review of the book nails exactly how I feel about Radiance:

And then the book, for all its formidable wit and skill, is a confession of failure, and I think we shall get it wrong if we insist on converting all its apparent misses into clever hits. The stalled writer, the one who is in love with beginnings, says, "I would like to be able to write a book that is only an incipit, that maintains for its whole duration the potentiality of the beginning, the expectation still not focused on an object." This is a desire, not a program. An expectation permanently unfocused will die, and an expectation that can't be focused is simply a disappointment. … As a book about broken narrative promises this work is impeccable. But its very success in this vein leads us to the sadness of its central subject, the absence of the artist, Dickens, Tolstoy, Stendhal, Dostoyevsky, who could brilliantly keep the promises he made.
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June 10, 2016 – Started Reading
June 10, 2016 – Shelved
June 10, 2016 –
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97.22% "Incoming takedown of postmodernism, metafiction, and this book. I keep reading positive. reviews of this book, and they make it sound so amazing, but I'm like, you're not describing the same book that I read."
June 10, 2016 –
page 420
97.22% "Incoming takedown of postmodernism, metafiction, and this book. I keep reading positive. reviews of this book, and they make it sound so amazing, but I'm like, you're not describing the same book that I read."
June 12, 2016 – Shelved as: bottom-shelf
June 12, 2016 – Shelved as: bepretentious
June 12, 2016 – Shelved as: postmodern
June 12, 2016 – Shelved as: scififantasy
June 12, 2016 – Shelved as: detailed-review
June 12, 2016 – Finished Reading

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Crystal Starr Light This is such a brilliant review! So much thought and analysis! Bravo!!!


message 2: by RedL. (last edited Jun 12, 2016 03:52PM) (new)

RedL. I can't express how much I love this review. Just about everything resonates with me and I haven't read the book, so I'm not agreeing on the book-specific observations, but the way it's built and the critique it so eloquently displays. Why judging literature, or anything else for that matter, also based on what it makes us feel is to be considered a fallacy? Rationalism and intellectualism-worshipping have born monsters. Even when I'm in total awe of an author's talent to play with everything that makes a book, there's a vein pulsing there, there must be more than pure admiration for technical abilities to really make me love and keep a book within me. Moreover, I love Calvino. I read him to my children as well. The last phrase of the NY time's review somehow confused me...by everything you explained in the review I got the impression the author was way TOO present in Radiance, stuffing, glueing, playing and being overindulgent with both form and content. Shouldn't artists actually craft their stories in a way we forget they're there puppeteering and end up living with the characters instead?


message 3: by Erik (new) - rated it 1 star

Erik Crystal Starr Light wrote: "This is such a brilliant review! So much thought and analysis! Bravo!!!"

Thanks! Wrote it in a pastry cafe while making googly eyes at (and receiving googly eyes from) a pretty girl in a sundress.

...Not sure what that has to do with anything, but there it is :P


message 4: by Erik (new) - rated it 1 star

Erik RedL. wrote: "I can't express how much I love this review. Just about everything resonates with me and I haven't read the book, so I'm not agreeing on the book-specific observations, but the way it's built and t..."

Well said, and I agree! As someone who occasionally feels like he missed sociopathy by only a narrow margin, I agree that judging a work based on how it makes us FEEL is no fallacy at all and is in fact of utmost importance.

Insofar as the final line of the NY times review, I'd say that Radiance does successfully explore the themes of film, perception, and narrative but that, in doing so, only serves to remind the reader how amazing this story COULD have been had it been better focused. I completely agree that the best story-tellers are transparent.

Your children must be very lucky to have a mother who reads such wonderful things to them :]


message 5: by RedL. (last edited Jun 12, 2016 04:08PM) (new)

RedL. Erik wrote: "RedL. wrote: "I can't express how much I love this review. Just about everything resonates with me and I haven't read the book, so I'm not agreeing on the book-specific observations, but the way it..."

well thank you :-) Honestly, I doubt I could ever approach or judge anything without the feeling part. I am extremely analytical and my mind works as a scalpel, it is an exhausting habit that ends up disintegrating any matter...I need to feel, I maybe go overboard in that direction as well. The mind alone can be a very dark and cold place.

I might consider reading this just to see if I feel the same as you do. Right now I got the impression is a big too much of an ego project than a labour of love. I might be wrong, I know.

Ah I don't know about that! Yesterday they said I am like Liz Sherman, from Hellboy. Whether they meant it because I complain about the mess around here or I explode when I'm pissed off, I took it as a compliment. Calvino writes in my mother tongue, I try to raise them bilingual, I think they're ready for him. Non Se una notte d’inverno un viaggiatore yet, but Marcovaldo and Il Barone Rampante :-)


message 6: by RedL. (new)

RedL. oh...I can see you in that pastry shop...what colour was her sundress? so many details to consider for a near perfect movie scene...sigh...


message 7: by Erik (new) - rated it 1 star

Erik I didn't mean to suggest Radiance was an ego project rather than a labour of love. I definitely do think Catherynne Valente gave it her all, and I don't have any issue with her as a writer. It's just that - in this work at least - she fell into the trap of postmodernism: she became intoxicated by the freedom from structure it seems to offer and abandoned story-telling discipline. As a result, I felt less like I was reading a story than a series of rants and essays.

The mere fact that your children know of Liz Sherman tells me you're filling them with wonderful things!

The girl's dress was green, and she had a delicate elfin face imbued with an attractively mischievous air. Her name was (ironically I see now) Kathryn, just like the author of Radiance.


message 8: by RedL. (last edited Jun 12, 2016 06:21PM) (new)

RedL. Erik wrote: "I didn't mean to suggest Radiance was an ego project rather than a labour of love. I definitely do think Catherynne Valente gave it her all, and I don't have any issue with her as a writer. It's ju..."

I stand corrected. Now I understand better also what you meant with focusing and how much better the story would have been then.

It's been a Hellboy week-end, they picked the films, yesterday the second episode (and they made that comment when she ignites during a quarrel with HB and sends him flying out of their room), today we watched the first. Technically, they're way too young but I like that we're creating little monsters crazy for cinema like I am. And for books. I'm trying, what can I say, I have a lot of passions to pass along, not just my crazy drama genes :-)

Sigh...I will dream of this encounter, I am already creating the film in my head...bus stops, airports, train stations, cafés are some of my favourite locations for this kind of 'almost'. 'What ifs are tremendously powerful possibilities...sigh..yeah, if you don't mind I will spin this in my head, thank you for the details :-)


message 9: by Mike (new)

Mike Very thought-provoking review, Erik. Enjoyed running across it.


Jenny (Reading Envy) I couldn't finish this book but I still adore the author and will still keep trying everything she writes. There have been a few lately that have been harder for me to get into, but she seems to be trying out a few new directions and stretching her wings.


message 11: by Erik (new) - rated it 1 star

Erik Thanks, Mike!

It's good, Jenny, that you're gonna stick with C. Valente. She seems a nice person and passionate about her work. However, she and I clearly have radically different ideas about the purpose of stories (and how to best write them). Once I give a book a one star rating, that's the end of my relationship with that author. Too many good books out there.


Jessica "You didn't give us a reason to care." Really?? I cared immediately about the writing style, which revels in poetry and visualization. I cared about Severin and wanted to continue reading about her life and those who interacted with her.

As an artist, and art teacher, books must be looked at like a work of art. You get from it what you want, and what your own, personal experiences allow you to. You cannot say that Valente "didn't give us a reason to care." It is only YOU that didn't care, because you couldn't relate to this "artwork."


message 13: by Erik (new) - rated it 1 star

Erik I am envious of your response to this book, as you clearly took more from it than I did. At least, more positive elements anyway.

As for your argument, you are claiming my dislike and disengagement with the book says more about me than it does about Radiance, yes? That the fault - if any exists - lies with me and not with Radiance. That perhaps I did not approach it with a receptive enough mindset or that - even further - I may be a sort of literature peasant, who is unable to appreciate fine words and poetry.

I would say the same to you, but in the reverse.

That is, I would suggest the greatness and revelation of your reading experience lies within you - and not Radiance. You brought an aesthetic mindset that must have been ultra-receptive, and forgiving, to Radiance. Wonderful, and I truly mean that. It is wonderful that we all have different ideas of beauty and ugliness.

The thing is, despite your reading of my review, I never meant to claim that some people couldn't like Radiance. People can like or love all sorts of things for all sorts of reasons. At the Guggenheim, one installation last year involved a useable golden toilet. Art, alright. To someone in the right mood, I'm sure it is. When I went to Atlanta's modern art museum with my apprentice, we spun great stories from abstract color and geometry. When I went to my own city's modern art museum by myself, I chose not to spin stories and wondered why I had bothered to go there - if the burden of the aesthetic experience was going to fall so squarely on my shoulders. If I had to be the engine of the art, then what use did I have for these squares of color? If it be the fuel, it be a crude and inefficient fuel. I could have stayed home, sat on my porch, and watched the birds at play - a bright, lovely, vibrant fuel.

Some art requires little of its viewers and rewards little. Some requires much and rewards much. A Shakespeare play, spoken in Olde English, is a demanding experience but rewarding. So the question for me is, How much does Radiance require of its reader? And how much does it reward?

The thesis of my review is that Radiance demands much and offers little. That you chose to start off with 'cared immediately about the writing style' confirms this to me. Literally style before substance - my exact argument about why Radiance failed to engage me. Further, I entirely disagree that it revels in visualization. Are there some great images? Yes. But to say it revels in it is to ignore the fact that the bulk of this novel is not narrative - which is the king of written visualization. Rather, it includes letters, critical essays, news articles, shipping manifests, etc, etc, all of which are inferior vessels for reveling in visualization.

In short, I do not think it is ONLY me that couldn't relate. In my lack of engagement with Radiance, I am not alone. And, frankly, I don't appreciate your trying to frame me in an outsider, outcast role. But no worries, I understand. It's never pleasant to have someone bring up the flaws of the things we love.


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Gillian Daniels The review here quotes famous artists, men with a lot of print to their name, to essentially say over and over again you didn't connect with the book or its themes. Sure. Okay. Not all art does it for everyone.

But the personal venom shoved at the author? The declaration that a story that didn't deliver for you makes her pretentious? Yeah, no. You spend your time here dragging in Calvino and Stendhal because you need their firepower to attack Valente. Kettle, black.


message 15: by Erik (new) - rated it 1 star

Erik Gillian wrote: "The review here quotes famous artists, men with a lot of print to their name, to essentially say over and over again you didn't connect with the book or its themes. Sure. Okay. Not all art does it ..."

Where did I shove personal venom at the author? I slammed this book, true, but as far as I'm aware (and intended), the most venom I projected toward the author herself was calling her "self indulgent." I attempted to justify that claim as best I could, including with a quote from the author herself in which she more or less admits to being self-indulgent (albeit she clearly means this in a positive way).

Yes I quote other authors and artists to improve the quality of my review. You are right to suggest that I am a nobody, whose words have value only insofar as they create value for others. I don't know who Stendhal is, though, so if I dragged him in, it was an accident.

I'm sorry if my review disappointed you with its low quality or if it upset you because you disagreed with it. I didn't write it in an attempt to drag down the enjoyment of those who did like the book, and I certainly did not intend to attack Valente herself. I simply wanted those who, like myself, failed to connect with the book and its themes to have a review that might help them grapple with their own disappointment.


message 16: by Meg (new) - rated it 4 stars

Meg This is the best 1-star review I have ever read! I liked the book, but I completely understand your points.


message 17: by Erik (new) - rated it 1 star

Erik Thanks for saying so, Meg, and thanks for not getting angry with me as other commentors who disagree with my opinion have!


message 18: by Chad (new)

Chad Gayle This review is a real work of art. (Not meant sarcastically or with a post-modern wink.)


message 19: by Erik (new) - rated it 1 star

Erik Thanks for saying so, Chad.

Postmodernism, eugh. Rebellion without a cause.


Chris Berko I bow to this review, so much more engaging and entertaining then the novel itself. The book is the opposite of gestalt, all those little parts never came together into anything I cared about.


message 21: by Erik (new) - rated it 1 star

Erik Sounds just like my experience, Chris.


message 22: by nastya (last edited Jun 05, 2020 01:23PM) (new)

nastya I felt she was trying to meticulously craft this story and it became artificial. like some puzzle but you need to want to solve the puzzle to continue. And she did not make me interested in it.


message 23: by Erik (last edited Jun 05, 2020 01:12PM) (new) - rated it 1 star

Erik Artificial is a good way to describe how I felt about the whole thing, and I think some people quite enjoy literary puzzles. Not me, though :D

So many other elements of my life - like my studies of relativity or my programming/designing a video game - are puzzles, in a way. I need literature that focuses on humanity to help balance that puzzle-solving machine inside of me.


message 24: by nastya (new)

nastya Erik wrote: "Artificial is a good way to describe how I felt about the whole thing, and I think some people quite enjoy literary puzzles. Not me, though :D

So many other elements of my life - like my studies o..."

I meant And she did not make me interested in it. :)


Katherine I appreciate your review and the time it took. But I strongly disagree with your conclusion. This book is a masterpiece. I'm reading it again because I crave the feeling the book gave me. Wistful, hopeful, delighted, amazed, and a little melancholy. Clearly this book wasn't for you but it definitely was for me!!


message 26: by Erik (new) - rated it 1 star

Erik It pleases me greatly to hear you found such delight in this book.

Life has taught me that it is often in those places and people others would call ugly that we, in fact, discover the greatest beauty.


Devon Flaherty This is one of the best if not the best review I have ever read, at least on Goodreads. Thanks for sharing. (I am currently ruminating and writing my own review of the book--at the moment I feel confused, angry, disappointed, startled, bedazzled... But it's certainly not getting above a 3 from me.)


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