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Pippi Calzelunghe by Astrid Lindgren
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it was amazing
bookshelves: children, spanish-and-italian, well-i-think-its-funny
Read 4 times. Last read August 21, 2018 to September 4, 2018.

[Original review, Sep 4 2018]

I'm trying to improve my miserable Italian, and when we were in Italy a couple of weeks ago I bought a bunch of children's books, intending to use my normal method of just reading them without a dictionary and picking things up. So far, it's working well. I loved Il Mago di Oz, and this one was also very enjoyable. I think I'd read about two-third of the episodes previously in Swedish or German, but some of them were new.

Reading in a language you're not familiar with forces you to slow down and think about what you're seeing. When I've read Pippi before, I've simply enjoyed the story, which is hilarious. But this time, crawling along in my Italian first gear, I started to wonder whether there was any underlying message beneath the non-stop stream of jokes. It seems to me that there is. Pippi cares deeply about children's rights. She is always on the child's side against the adults, and now she makes me think about how we don't, in fact, care very much about children's rights.

The fact that children have very few real rights is highlighted by the fact that it is, as far as I know, universally accepted that they should not have the right to vote. Of course, the adults have their arguments well prepared: children are too young to know how to use their votes intelligently, they'd just be manipulated by unscrupulous adult politicians, etc. These arguments would sit better if they hadn't also been used against the idea of enfranchising women. Switzerland was very late to the table here, and only gave women the vote in 1971. A few months ago, we saw an exhibition of posters from the two referendum campaigns. The No side kept making the point that those poor women just wouldn't know how to use the power they'd receive, and would be tugged in all directions by forces they didn't comprehend. Well, that may be true: but unfortunately, it applies equally well to male voters. In fact, giving women the vote seems to have worked out fine for Switzerland.

I wonder what would happen if the voting age were reduced to nine, the age that Tommy, Annika and Pippi are in the book. Maybe those kids would make crazy decisions, like voting to abolish homework and give themselves extra candy every day. Or maybe they'd do something even crazier, and vote for massive investment in renewable energy, better education, and higher taxes to pay for all of it. This strikes me as pretty sensible strategy for people who are expecting to spend the next sixty or seventy years living here: they'd be more inclined to think long-term. Why is it obvious that they would make worse decisions than voters at the other end of their lives, who tend to be equally hazy about the issues and won't have to deal with the consequences for very long? No one would dream of taking the vote away from pensioners; but somehow, it seems equally far-fetched to give the vote to children.

Of course, it won't happen: at the end of the day, the adult voters would never approve it, because it would mean giving up too much power. The only possible chance would be if a child emerged who had the charisma and strength to organise the kids, create the movement, and lead it to success. But there is no such child. Children aren't like that, and so the adults are safe.

Ah, if only the heroine of this book existed. Pippi for president!
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[Update, Apr 24 2019]

Correction: Greta Thunberg for president!

Well, you gotta admit I was close.
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Reading Progress

Finished Reading
Started Reading (Unknown Binding Edition)
January 1, 1980 – Finished Reading (Unknown Binding Edition)
November 10, 2009 – Shelved (Unknown Binding Edition)
November 10, 2009 – Shelved as: children (Unknown Binding Edition)
November 10, 2009 – Shelved as: well-i-thi... (Unknown Binding Edition)
November 10, 2009 – Shelved as: swedish-no... (Unknown Binding Edition)
September 12, 2015 – Started Reading (Hardcover Edition)
September 12, 2015 – Shelved (Hardcover Edition)
September 16, 2015 – Shelved as: children (Hardcover Edition)
September 16, 2015 – Shelved as: german-and-dutch (Hardcover Edition)
September 16, 2015 – Shelved as: well-i-think-its... (Hardcover Edition)
September 16, 2015 – Shelved as: swedish-norwegia... (Hardcover Edition)
September 16, 2015 – Finished Reading (Hardcover Edition)
August 21, 2018 – Started Reading
August 21, 2018 – Shelved
August 21, 2018 –
page 60
21.98% "Swedish-Italian translation exercise:

multiplikationstabellen = la tavola pitagorica

pluttifikationstabellen = ?

<spoiler>la tavola piragotica</spoiler>"
August 22, 2018 –
page 65
23.81% "Swedish-Italian translation exercise:

"Flyg, du fula fluga, flyg! Och den fula flugan flög" =
"Vola, brutta mosca, vola! E la brutta mosca volò""
August 23, 2018 –
page 85
31.14% ""Ad ogni modo, tu non riusciresti a batterlo" disse Annika, "perché è proprio l'uomo più forte del mondo."

"Uomo, può anche darsi" ribatté Pippi, "ma io sono la bambina più forte del mondo, non dimenticarlo!""
August 24, 2018 –
page 100
36.63% "La veranda era deserta e il cavallo non si vedeva. Tommy bussò educatamente alla porta, e dall'intero una voce tenebrosa rispose:
"Chi arriva nella notte scura
a bussare alla mia porte?
È un fantasma per farmi paura,
o un topino mezzo morte?"
"No, Pippi, siamo noi!" strillò Annika. Allora Pippi aprì."
August 30, 2018 –
page 150
54.95% ""You can't write 'We've had no tobacco for the last two days'!" says Annika, "People will think we smoke,"

"Look," says Pippi, "who's more likely to have had no tobacco for the last two days? Someone who smokes, or someone who doesn't smoke?"

"Someone who doesn't smoke," says Annika.

"Well then," says Pippi."
August 31, 2018 –
page 185
67.77% "Pippi says she's going to leave and become a princess of a South Sea island (six months a year) and an apprentice pirate (six months a year). Poor Annika almost has a nervous breakdown. Even though I've read it before and knew Pippi was going to change her mind at the last minute, I feel emotionally all wrung out. I think I'm going to have to lie down for the rest of the day."
September 2, 2018 –
page 220
80.59% ""You have to eat up your semolina pudding!" says Pippi severely. "Otherwise you won't grow up big and strong, and you won't have the energy to tell your own children to eat up the semolina pudding that they don't like. Where would we be if everyone carried on like that?""
September 3, 2018 –
page 240
87.91% "Gli indigenti vi avevano eretto un cippo commemorativo in ommagio a quel fatto eccezionale. Sulla pietra stava inciso in lingua cip-cipoide:
ATTRAVERSO IL GRANDE, VASTO MARE ARRIVÒ IL NOSTRO GRASSO, BIANCO SOVRANO. QUESTO È IL LUOGO DOV'EGLI APPRODÒ, MENTRE L'ALBERI DEL PANE FIORIVA. CHE EGLI POSSA CONSERVARSI SEMPRE COSÌ GRASSO E COSÌ FORTE COM'ERA QUANDO ARRIVÒ.
"
September 4, 2018 –
page 265
97.07% "Swedish-Italian translation exercise:

Snälla lilla krumelur
jag vill aldrig bliva stur ->

Piccole e belle Cunegunde
non voglio mai diventare grunde"
September 4, 2018 – Shelved as: children
September 4, 2018 – Shelved as: spanish-and-italian
September 4, 2018 – Shelved as: well-i-think-its-funny
September 4, 2018 – Finished Reading

Comments Showing 1-50 of 55 (55 new)


message 1: by Peter (new)

Peter As I read your comments about children’s rights and Switzerland’s late enfranchisement of women, I’m reminded of how some very basic values can vary tremendously among developed nations. Recently I heard someone, I believe from France, say that once a criminal had paid his debt to society, we shun them as an innocent person once again. I may have the country wrong. In America, disenfranchisement of felons is often for life. One of these days I will make a list of the best laws regarding social justice as it affects felons throughout the world and see if a better system can be cobbled together.


message 2: by Matt (new) - added it

Matt Pippi for president!

Indeed. Or perhaps the Red Zora would even be a better choice.


Manny Matt wrote: "Pippi for president!

Indeed. Or perhaps the Red Zora would even be a better choice."


Damn! I actually picked up that book in a Berlin bookshop, considered buying it, and put it down again. Should have stuck with my first impulse :(


message 4: by Peter (new)

Peter As an experienced voter-pensioner I would consider to let vote children and women exclusively.


Manny Thank you Annina! I have been doing this for a while with a bunch of languages... it works well as long as you already know a related language.


Manny Peter wrote: "As an experienced voter-pensioner I would consider to let vote children and women exclusively."

Now there's a radical idea. I love it! The world would be a better place!


message 7: by Peter (new)

Peter Manny wrote: "Now there's a radical idea. I love it! The world would be a better place!"

:)


message 8: by Jim (new)

Jim well, there is a 7-year-old running the US into the ground, so maybe this needs to be debated a bit.... like maybe an upper age limit of 70 years old...


Manny He just thinks he's a 7-year-old.


Ms. Smartarse Wow! You go Manny! I can converse at a basic level in Italian, but I'm nowhere near confident enough to try and read any novels (or even children's stories). :-)


Manny Ms. Smartarse, you've got to ask yourself what Pippi would do. Is she going to let herself be stopped by a little thing like not actually knowing the language?


message 12: by Jim (new)

Jim Manny wrote: "Ms. Smartarse, you've got to ask yourself what Pippi would do. Is she going to let herself be stopped by a little thing like not actually knowing the language?"

What Would Pippi Do?

I think I'm going to order a t-shirt that says that.....


Ms. Smartarse I haven't read Pippi's story in any language... but that sounds like a leading question. :)


message 14: by Francesco (new)

Francesco Complimenti! :)


message 15: by Aravindakshan (new)

Aravindakshan Narasimhan If you haven't seen Jean Vigo's zero for conduct still, I kindly I ask you to do it. :) Kids turn into anarchist in a boarding school.. it's a fun film..


Ms. Smartarse Peter wrote: "this is exactly what I do with German, English or Hungarian! "

It's precisely because I did this with German, that I know how much effort it requires of me. For about half a year, I all but hated reading in German... :\


message 17: by Manny (last edited Sep 05, 2018 07:03AM) (new) - rated it 5 stars

Manny Ms. Smartarse wrote: "I haven't read Pippi's story in any language... but that sounds like a leading question. :)"

I totally recommend the German translation... get some payback for all that pain...


Manny Francesco wrote: "Complimenti! :)"

Grazie!


message 19: by carol. (new)

carol. I'd support Pippi for President.


Manny She's very good at dealing with bullies.


message 21: by s.penkevich (new)

s.penkevich I'd vote for her.


message 22: by Lidia (new)

Lidia Gomez Pinocchio is a beautiful book to read, and it's originally italian


message 23: by ephyjeva (new)

ephyjeva Das ist eine exzellente Idee! Ich möchte mein Deutsch verbessern, vielleicht werde ich mit den Kindergeschichten beginnen? Fantastische Rezension, Manny, wie immer!


message 24: by Jim (new)

Jim Manny wrote: Correction: Greta Thunberg for president!

As soon as she's old enough to hold public office, I'm sending a donation!!


message 25: by Théo d'Or (new) - added it

Théo d'Or Indeed, what is happening nowadays is outrageous. I mean, why does Biden - who has the discernment of a 2-year-old baby - have the right to vote, and the nine-old- children don't ?
Btw, in my district I reached to collect 1016 signatures for Manny - president. Curiously, they are all women. The thing is - would you really wear a tie ?


Maren 1017 signatures for Manny now, another woman of course :)
Since I'm already over 9, I even have the right to vote!


Manny If chosen, I will serve.

My legal staff is currently determining whether I would need to transition to female, they promise to let me know soon. 8-year-old lawyers with AI backup are smart and efficient.


message 28: by Théo d'Or (new) - added it

Théo d'Or Watch out your ears, just in case.


Maren We trust in your candidacy, it is more important today than ever before!
Your (digital) ears will hopefully always be open to our concerns 🙏

Your eight-year-olds in the legal department should use their breaks at school to work hard on your cause.

If you really have to switch to a woman, please promise us voters that you will still look just as good afterward!!


Manny Thank you Maren, but I have everything covered! My six-year-old gender reassignment surgeon says her AI can make me as beautiful as Mommy.


Maren That is very reassuring to hear, Manny. As a six-year-old, this surgeon has been able to gather enough experience, and it will be sufficient for you!


Manny Madison's AI tells me her first word was "prognosis". They are a great team and I trust them implicitly.


Maren Madison is a wonderful name for this highly gifted girl.
Prognosis?
That's really a very good word, because it can be seen as both a medical and political term (at least in German).

So, she already knew (subconsciously) that one day she would work for the future president, Baron Manny Raynor, and beautify him.


Manny Madison tells me to say thank you for "highly gifted", but most of the kids in her class could do it if they and their AIs weren't so busy working on the next revolution in physics.


Maren Madison, you’re welcome!
If you’re busy preparing the next revolution in physics, I don’t want to distract you with my silly questions.

But I am very curious about what you’re planning.
Who knows, maybe the Nobel Prize will come sooner than expected?!


Manny I've tried to get them to explain it to me, but it's difficult to follow when you haven't been doing Loop Quantum Gravity under AI supervision since you were two.

Anyway, Madison says they're silly, politics is more interesting.


message 37: by Théo d'Or (new) - added it

Théo d'Or Strange coincidence. Trump said the same. It's starting to get worrisome.


message 38: by Théo d'Or (new) - added it

Théo d'Or I still wonder which tie you'II be wearing when you get elected. The one with axioms, or the one with teddy bears ?


message 39: by Théo d'Or (new) - added it

Théo d'Or I did an instant survey within a radius of 47 meters. Seven out of ten girls want teddy bears. Don't neglect details, most of the time they are decisive.


Maren Mr. President (from 2025),
I must admit that Madison and the kids understand more about Loop Quantum Gravity than I do, since I was unfortunately raised by humans.

Théo's thoughts are important (as always).
A suitable tie can decide the election.
So can hairstyle (Trump!!).

By the way, another question:
How well do you play Chess 960?
It could be used for the campaign.


Manny I'm not sure why, but I have never played Chess 960! I will ask my campaign team whether I should start now.


Maren Would you please be so kind as to tell the team that I find you very creative, which is, why I think you are predestined for Chess 960.
This will impress the voters.
They can also be influenced by photos in a hero's pose.
Think about it....


message 43: by Théo d'Or (new) - added it

Théo d'Or Meanwhile, I composed your campaign slogan - Vote Grumpy Bear !


message 44: by Théo d'Or (new) - added it

Théo d'Or @ Maren, what you mean by that " hero's pose " ? Are you trying to get Manny to wear his suit with that " S" on the chest ?


Maren @Théo Yesterday a picture went around the world that will win someone a lot of votes...
Since Manny certainly doesn't want to recreate this situation just to get a similar photo, your Superman suit wouldn't be a bad idea.
It will depend on what these clever AI kids advise him....


message 46: by Théo d'Or (new) - added it

Théo d'Or Anyway, I don't think he'II be wearing that suit again. Last time, while he was flying to save a cat from the top of a tree, he was intercepted by the Control Tower, for exceeding the legal speed, and received a stinging fine.


Maren Maybe Manny should wear an invisibility cloak next time or just get a license as a rescue pilot. Who would've thought you could get a ticket for rescuing a cat?

That's the price of heroism in times of strict traffic regulations :-(

By the way, Théo, was it your cat up in the tree again?


Manny Harsh words have been exchanged between my campaign staff and their physicist classmates. The latter consider the Superman suit to be a frivolous and entirely unjustified way to exploit their recent discoveries in Loop Quantum Gravity.

The various AIs involved are doing their best to smooth things over, but a number of six-year-olds have already said that other six-year-olds aren't their best friends anymore.


message 49: by Théo d'Or (new) - added it

Théo d'Or @ Maren - No, it wasn't Sex, it was Finley. Do you know Finley ? He's a great writer. His latest work , " #####(*** ggg D " - exceeded all expectations.


Maren That sounds like a scientific-political drama! Maybe the parents should organize an interdisciplinary discussion round to come to a peaceful solution?
Perhaps the clever kids might even discover a new theory for the unification of physics and politics ;)

Manny, luckily your superpowers in loop quantum gravity theory are still sufficient to maintain world peace; someone has to continue ensuring that the world is safe from evil forces and boring physics lessons!


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