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The Troop by Nick Cutter
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Actual rating: 2.5. If there's one thing I've learned from this year's crop of books, it's that you should be aware of what you put in your body.

In Japan, they have a specific type of manga and anime called "shounen manga," meaning "young men's manga." The category is specifically targeted towards adolescent males, around 13+ years of age. it generally contains little to no romance, few significant female characters, and is exemplified by constant action, humor, guts and glory, and focuses on the (purely platonic) camaraderie and relationship between the male characters within.

That's the best category into which I can fit this book. The characters are very juvenile, very clichéd. Their behavior and personality were extremely predictable, and I had no trouble guessing what would happen to each. There was little in this book that surprised me at all, there were no unforeseeable twists. Everyone falls solidly into their cookie cutter mold. I can definitely see where the Lord of the Flies comparison comes into play.

I am not saying that GIRLS SHOULDN'T READ BOYS' BOOKS, no, I am not a traditionalist like that. However, in the sense that you probably wouldn't catch a guy reading chick lit-type of books written by Danielle Steele or Kristin Hannah, I would venture to say that this book would probably appeal more to a younger male audience. There is cursing, a lot of "fucks" flying around all over the place, there is adolescent swearing and toilet humor, but honestly, it's nothing younger kids have heard these days; if I had a little brother, he'd enjoy this book considerably more than I did.

This book didn't really do much for me at all. There was a lot of very graphic scenes that were specifically designed to be gory and bloody and appealing to a certain type of audience. I was not disgusted, I was not rendered squeamish; there's a lot of (literal) blood and guts, but it didn't horrify me in a visceral sense. It was just...matter of fact. I was warned that this book would make me want to lose my lunch: that was not true. I do a lot of reading while I eat, and let me assure you that during and after the reading of this book, the contents of my stomach remain solidly (or rather, liquidly, in the literal sense) in its proper place.

I am not a froofy girly girl: I absolutely love blood and gore in books, movies, games. In fact, what bumped this book to the very top of my reading list was the promise of a deliciously revolting book. It just didn't deliver on that sense for me. I was never scared, I was never thrilled, I was never horrified. I was never particularly creeped out by anything within this book. I was drawn to it initially because it was a book that claimed to have scared Stephen King. I loved Stephen King when I was younger; IT rendered me sleepless for two weeks after reading the book, so this endorsement was a promising one. I had hoped this book would deliver the frights. It didn't.

I have a feeling I might have enjoyed this book a leeeeeetle bit more had I not read Mira Grant's Parasite beforehand. There were so many parallels between the two books. The premise, even the style, to some extent. Much like in Parasite, in front of some of the chapters, we are given bits and clues as to what is going on. News articles, interviews, bits of confiscated evidence in the forms of letters, diary entries, court transcripts, etc, from both the past and the future.

I just felt that overall, Mira Grant does a better job of building us up and giving us a more realistic picture of what was happening behind the scenes, leading up to this point. The premise was also far more believe and well-executed than in this book. I also didn't really find these pre-chapter interjections particularly intriguing: they were rather juvenile, and some parts of it like the "interviews" were particularly awkward. Their structure, presentation, and speech patterns were lacking in flow, so that I didn't feel like they could actually have happened. The only thing this book does better is the descriptions; they may not be sufficient for me, but they are quite graphic, and I'm sure other readers with less of a steel-clad stomach as mine would enjoy them---or not, as the case may be.

I didn't have a problem with how the story flowed. The plot progressed along in a good manner, and I was never confused. It did drag on in place, especially in the beginning, when we were being introduced to the boys and their squabbles and I just found myself wondering "IS THERE A POINT TO ALL THIS?" The writing is good...but it leans towards purple-prosy in some points, and I had a lot of problem with the overwrought and overextended use of really strange metaphors. They were seriously all over the book, and they were so weird. From moons like bone fishhooks, to Old Faithful geyser in Yellowstone, to dewy fields spread with dead crickets, to warm dough studded with busted lightbulbs...I was left shaking my head. The writing in this book would have been fine if it didn't sound like it was trying too hard. It's supposed to be a horror book, leave the strange attempts at poetic writing out of it.

The plot: um, this book would have been over a whole lot sooner (like at the very beginning) if not for some extremely stupid decisions made at by the sole adult and Scoutmaster, Dr. Tim Riggs. Honestly, for a doctor, he's a real fucking moron. The rest of the plot hinged upon his idiotic decisions, and so it was pretty much ruined for me from the beginning because of my sense of disbelief. I will not reveal what the idiocy entails, even if it takes place at the beginning of the book, but along the scale of idiocy, it's roughly the equivalent of a book's Big Reveal hinging upon something that you could have solved with a 5-second Google search.

The other characters within the book, the boys, were so utterly banal and clichéd. We have 5 characters, who are essentially tropes.

Kent: the alpha male. A bulky, idiotic, simple-minded gorilla of a brute.

Ephraim & Max: the polar opposite and highly unlikely pair of best friends. Ephraim is the perpetually angry, short-tempered son of a jailbird, he's stupid, barely literate, and explodes at the drop of a hat. Max, the gentle, introspective, calm and even-tempered guy to whom everyone turns.

Shelley: the creepy guy who blends in like a shadow, whom nobody expects to do much, the devious, manipulative little asshole that nobody ever notices.

Newton: the nerd. The overweight, perpetually bullied, overly sensitive, very intelligent, "nurturing," gentle boy.

Spare me. The majority of the book comprises of them squabbling and fighting and generally being little shits to one another. It got to the point where I felt like their character were caricatures of pre-adolescent boys, because the stereotypes were so bad and their behaviors were so exaggerated. Were it not for the fact that I know the author is male, I would have guessed that this is a female author's overextended and melodramatic view of how teenaged boys behave. The characters did not feel real to me at all.

Recommended for a younger male audience with ample suspension of disbelief.

This book was given to me for review by Netgalley.
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Reading Progress

August 19, 2013 – Started Reading
August 19, 2013 – Shelved
August 19, 2013 –
0.0% "Starting tomorrow, buddy read with Jenny & Scarlet :D"
August 19, 2013 –
5.0% "The moon is a bone fishbook? Oh please don't be purple prosy."
August 19, 2013 –
10.0% "I'm bored"
August 19, 2013 –
12.0% "Tim...call for help, god you're stupid"
August 19, 2013 –
15.0% "Tim is the dumbest scout leader that ever lived"
August 19, 2013 –
20.0% "Reminds me of Parasite"
August 20, 2013 – Shelved as: ya
August 20, 2013 – Shelved as: sci-fi
August 20, 2013 – Shelved as: on-the-run
August 20, 2013 – Shelved as: middle-school
August 20, 2013 – Shelved as: jericho-fucking-barrons
August 20, 2013 – Shelved as: horror
August 20, 2013 – Shelved as: high-school
August 20, 2013 – Shelved as: girly-guy
August 20, 2013 – Shelved as: boring-main-character
August 20, 2013 – Shelved as: beta-male
August 20, 2013 – Shelved as: alpha-male
August 20, 2013 – Shelved as: tstl-male
August 20, 2013 – Shelved as: try-hard
August 20, 2013 – Finished Reading

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❤Ninja Bunneh❤ I'm so disappointed in this one. Kind of was hoping it was a Kingish read since they referenced him. Oh well, I'll be passing it up. Great review :)


Khanh, first of her name, mother of bunnies Andrea wrote: "I'm so disappointed in this one. Kind of was hoping it was a Kingish read since they referenced him. Oh well, I'll be passing it up. Great review :)"

Thanks, Andrea! I was hoping so, too, but it didn't give me that sense of horror one generally gets from King's writing.


Scarlet Great review Khanh. I feel the same way about the characters. Despite such elaborate back-stories, I don't care about them at all.
Just started with part 2 and I hope things speed up.


Khanh, first of her name, mother of bunnies Scarlet wrote: "Great review Khanh. I feel the same way about the characters. Despite such elaborate back-stories, I don't care about them at all.
Just started with part 2 and I hope things speed up."


Still vastly better than your previous ARC ;)


Scarlet Oh, definitely. Worms and violent boys are much better than Lillie and her "ball of twine" :P

p.s. Poor Rose is going to read her arc soon. She told me she's gearing up for the torture by reading some good books first, lol :P


Khanh, first of her name, mother of bunnies Scarlet wrote: "Oh, definitely. Worms and violent boys are much better than Lillie and her "ball of twine" :P

p.s. Poor Rose is going to read her arc soon. She told me she's gearing up for the torture by reading..."


Lol! Poor thing!


message 7: by Basuhi (new)

Basuhi ARCs are a gamble aren't they ? You don't know anything about them because they don't have many reviews and then DNFing it seems extra hard.
Nice review, Khanh.


Khanh, first of her name, mother of bunnies Basuhi wrote: "ARCs are a gamble aren't they ? You don't know anything about them because they don't have many reviews and then DNFing it seems extra hard.
Nice review, Khanh."


Thank you, Basuhi :)


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Jules (Never enough time to read) Great review


Khanh, first of her name, mother of bunnies Jules wrote: "Great review"

Thank you, Jules.


message 11: by Jack (new)

Jack Truong great review like usual. I spotted a tiny typo there: Kent: the alpha make (you meant male, right? because K is next to L, I guess it's the case)


Khanh, first of her name, mother of bunnies Jack wrote: "great review like usual. I spotted a tiny typo there: Kent: the alpha make (you meant male, right? because K is next to L, I guess it's the case)"

Yes, thank you.


message 13: by Tandie (new)

Tandie Shounen manga? It sounds like the polar opposite of chick lit! This really doesn't sound like my kind of book. Glad you reviewed it :-)


Khanh, first of her name, mother of bunnies Tandie wrote: "Shounen manga? It sounds like the polar opposite of chick lit! This really doesn't sound like my kind of book. Glad you reviewed it :-)"

Lol, yes. Even in different cultures, the categories remain the same :P


Michael I read Danielle Steele AND Kristin Hannah but I do have to confess that it's more a case of skimmming through and seeing how they keep churning out the same stuff over and over again. Thank god for public libraries!


Khanh, first of her name, mother of bunnies Michael wrote: "I read Danielle Steele AND Kristin Hannah but I do have to confess that it's more a case of skimmming through and seeing how they keep churning out the same stuff over and over again. Thank god for..."

Lol! I hear you. Whenever a new DS or James Patterson, etc. come in, I skim through, go to myself "Yep, same old," and happily skip. :)


Trish Do you mind if I link to this review when I write mine? I am writing it up now and your thoughts have stayed with me since I read them a couple days ago. I agree with you to a point, and think you explained your point of view very well. I do think this is more for adolescents and teens rather than for adults, who are bound to be more critical of the holes and miscues in the story.


Khanh, first of her name, mother of bunnies Trish wrote: "Do you mind if I link to this review when I write mine? I am writing it up now and your thoughts have stayed with me since I read them a couple days ago. I agree with you to a point, and think you ..."

Trish, it's totally fine.


✨ the one with Ross’s library book ✨ Try Bentley Little for horror and gore. Specifically his book, The Association.


Khanh, first of her name, mother of bunnies Thanks for the rec, Michelle =)


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Christopher Buehlman I rarely find reviews I (mostly) disagree with so delicious. I linked to it in my own review as well, though perhaps I should have asked first, as I just noticed Trish did. Internet etiquette can be a slippery fish. Perhaps I enjoyed your review so much because I felt the gentle sting of rebuke-I had to acknowledge my own tolerance for 'shounen manga' and consider the possibility that I may still be an adolescent male. Even though I took more pleasure from The Troop than you did, I have to agree with you about the Scoutmaster's appalling lack of common sense. I would have enjoyed the story even more had defensive measures been practiced but overwhelmed (I'm thinking Masque of the Red Death).


message 22: by Koty (new) - rated it 1 star

Koty Johnson Wow fantastic review. I feel like I wrote it. This sums up my thoughts exactly. The book wasn't particularly scary and very shallow.


message 23: by Mary (new) - rated it 1 star

Mary Excellent review!


Bryan Good review. I thought the same. Very cliche, reminded me more of young adult fiction like the Hunger Games (don't even get me started on how poor that book is). Super predictable and very rushed. Good premise and not a bad story however. The Ruins is kind of a similar book, cheesy but better written.


message 26: by Kai (new) - rated it 2 stars

Kai excellent review and it mirrors my feelings about the book.


Lianne Burwell I think we were reading a different book than a lot of people. And my main complaint was the same as yours: the characters are cliches. Beyond the kids, there was also the ineffectual troop leader. And the kids' memories of their parents were equally tropish (the bullying cop teaching his son to be a bully? Sigh). I wanted to like it, but just couldn't


message 29: by Maxine (new)

Maxine (Booklover Catlady) I was going to read this as I'm having a horror fest at the moment but after your detailed review, I'm not going to bother. I know you hate recommendations which is why I never send them to you, but if you ever fancy some horror check out my shelf. I'm reading a lot of urban horror at the moment and I've read some great stuff from Indie authors.


Colton Childers great review! this was honestly what I expected to find on the gr page after reading the book. surprised to see a ton of 4/5 star ratings...


Khanh, first of her name, mother of bunnies I know...I'm surprised Mr. King loved this.


message 33: by Steve (new)

Steve If you have this much time to write a review of a book you don't even like, I can't understand why you're not on the best-seller list yourself. By the way, for this 62 year old man, Kristin Hannah rocks!


message 34: by Emma (new) - rated it 3 stars

Emma Victory The comparison was LORD OF THE FLIES not LORD OF THE RINGS!


Khanh, first of her name, mother of bunnies Nice catch. Fixed, thank you.


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K.T. Katzmann Khanh (Clowns, Nightmares, and Bunnies) wrote: "I know...I'm surprised Mr. King loved this."

He has always proudly said that he is a horror fan who can love the simple stuff.


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K.T. Katzmann Now I have an image in my head of shounen manga Dragonball Z version of Lord of the Flies.


Dr. Sarah so so wish I had read this review a couple days ago...sigh...


Malcolm The points you're making make a lot of sense, the whole book could have been avoided if Tim made different choices, the boys were cliched tropes, and it wasn't truly horrifying. I also agree with your statement that it is directed towards younger boys because as I was reading this book I could put myself into the shoes of the boys, it reminded me of when I was around that age. I'm not saying that they are not exaggerated tropes but they do a very good job at representing what it can be like to grow up as a boy because they do live in those kinds of tropes. Just more dulled down.
So I agree that it is for younger boys but more because younger boys can have an easier time relation to the characters.


R. Leigh Have to say I disagree with much here. I don't think the boys were cliche, I thought they were appropriate and real. Of course a lot of what they do and say is going to be juvenile: that's what they are.


message 41: by David (new)

David Odd you mention Mira Grant.

I found her trilogy to be far too long, and repetitive to boot. I found the science lacking, for all her focus on it.

Mayhap it's as you say, it was written clearly from a woman's point of view, so the main character wasn't as relatable to me, but every single one of her characters felt cookie cut to the extreme.

And if I had to read about how the main character was afraid of being in car one more damn time, I'll burn the book. I mean FFS, shorthand it. She didn't have to write about her fear, and the reasons for it, EVERY time she got in a car, like we had never read about it way back in the first book.

I had to force myself to finish the series.

The only thing I found in common between the two books was they involved worms, but Cutter's story to me was lean, focused on a clear goal, and did it's job.

Parasite felt to me like a really long tumblr diary.


Noisecode everything in your review is spot on. only difference is that I didn't feel it was worth writing such a detailed review, having wasted enough of my time. BUT... everything you said is spot on.


message 43: by Letícia (new)

Letícia I felt the exact same way, which is why I dropped it.


message 44: by Carl (new) - rated it 1 star

Carl Had same reaction more or less. "What's the point of this? I'm bored."


message 45: by John (new) - rated it 4 stars

John Your review is utterly worthless. Not every book needs to meet your stupud fucking quota.


message 46: by Pat (new)

Pat Nice review. Thanks. There was a reason I was checking reviews after I started the audiobook.


message 47: by Paul (new) - added it

Paul I read this review a couple of years after reading the book. I can completely understand where you are coming from. I approached The Troop as you may approach a 1980s slasher flick and by those limits I was mildly entertained. I thought the shock sections were forced but overall it served it's pulp horror makings. thanks for the review


message 48: by Amy (new)

Amy Jesionowski I'm not saying this is a bad book by any means - the following rating is my opinion and I can see where some would really like The Troop. But I'm with you, Khanh, on the rating; 2.5 stars at best.

While I tend not to gravitate towards YA, I do read some (e.g., the Harry Potter and Hunger Games series). My go-to (and favorite, if that wasn't obvious by "go-to') genres are sci-fi, horror/dark fiction, fantasy, and spec fic (yes... I would have to say in that order).

2.5 stars because it is well-written (grammar, word usage, lay-out, etc.) especially because there are some DOOZIES out there that have, I would guess, never been through a spell check, that I put down after five pages. 2.5 stars also because I read roughly a third of this book and said, "Nope. Done." I wasn't invested. I didn't care. I was just completely uninterested.


Messier110 ^ What she said.


message 50: by Alex (new) - rated it 4 stars

Alex Merry Horrible review from.an obviously one sided frame of mind. Read this book and decide for yourself. There was no place for romance on this story about 5 boys that must try to survive something much bigger and out of scale than them. Constant fly wondering when the adults will save them only to realize it may never happen at all. It was as much about the terror of being trapped and if surviving is even worth Doing. Where would romance fit in?


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