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Longbourn by Jo Baker
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Hoo, boy.

Where do I start?

Actually, that's easy. Any review of Longbourn should feature this warning right at the top: If you are an Austen purist, this book will give you a stroke and a heart attack and possibly cancer.

So there's that.

Oh, also: Any novel written by a non-servant is apparently required by law to feature at least one passage in which a character who is a servant will ponder life as a person of leisure and decide, "Naw. Overrated."

Yeah. THAT happened.

I wanted to adore this book because I'm tired of people talking about how lovely life was in the Regency. No, it wasn't. Not even if you were rich, although that was *miles* better than being poor.

Even if you were rich, there was no plumbing, very little in the way of social mobility, and nothing remotely resembling a maxi pad, let alone a tampon. (Not even, in spite of what the author of Longbourn says, any "napkins." Where would you put one? There wasn't anything in the way of underwear as we know it. See Susanne Alleyn's awesome Medieval Underpants and Other Blunders for convincing evidence of that.)

There was no reliable birth control, and no quick-and-easy food for those nights when you just don't feel like cooking. Women spent all day preparing or looking after the work of food preparation, and routinely wrote their wills when they became pregnant.

There were no no-fault divorces, and very few "he's TOTALLY at fault" divorces even if your husband was an adulterous batterer.

And -- I'm saving the worst for last here -- there was NO CHOCOLATE. Okay, there was a drink called chocolate, but it was outrageously expensive and it wasn't sweet.

I love Austen's novels, but I have no illusions about the era in which she lived and wrote. I worked as a live-in domestic myself, and I'm constantly thinking about the servants who made those leisured lives possible.

So I was excited to read Longbourn, a retelling of Pride & Prejudice from the vantage point of one of the Bennet's housemaids. I was sold when I read the pull-quote every review featured: "If Elizabeth Bennet had the washing of her own petticoats, Sarah often thought, she'd most likely be a sight more careful with them."

Perfect. Think about that the next time you read the scene in P&P where Lizzy shows up at Bingley's house with her petticoat three inches deep in mud.

I admire Jo Baker's determination to show the story from a different angle. Her premise is solid, her prose beautiful.

So why am I so put-out by this book?

Partly because it's a bummer from beginning to end. It's Les Miserables without the funny musical numbers.

I think it's just as dehumanizing to servants to assume their lives are endless misery as it is to ignore them. Yes, this book has a happy ending, technically. But it starts out bleak, it continues dire, and it crosses the finish line with a vague "So that turned out okay, I guess."

Speaking of bleak: Anyone who's read Bleak House will probably not find the "surprise middle" of Longbourn particularly surprising. Many who have read P&P will find aspects of it offensive.

Jo Baker takes a lot of liberties with P&P. I never thought of myself as a purist, but this bothered me. For instance, she insists on following the heavily trod (trodden? trode? whatever) path of Mary Bennet being infatuated with Mr. Collins. Know what it says in the book about that?

"Mary might have been prevailed on to accept him. She rated his abilities much higher than any of the others; there was a solidity in his reflections which often struck her, and though by no means so clever as herself, she thought that if encouraged to read and improve himself by such an example as her's [sic], he might become a very agreeable companion."

"She thinks he's a fixer-upper," my husband commented when I read this to him. But everybody -- movie-makers, Austen "sequel" writers -- somehow turns this into Mary adoring Mr. Collins from afar and longing to have him as her own. And of course Baker follows suit.

She also features quotations from P&P at the beginning of every chapter. Except in the flashback section, where they wouldn't make sense. Except I don't think they make sense anywhere. What are they supposed to be? Messages from God?

Anyway. Back to the liberties. Mary's in love. Mr. Collins is a really nice guy, not at all pompous or judgmental. Mr. Bennet has a lot of lines, and one of them is cuttingly sarcastic. One.

Are you ishing me?

Speaking of ish: Baker talks about it a lot. By name. It is, apparently, everywhere in Regency England. You couldn't open your carriage door without smacking into a load of ish. I'm surprised the publisher didn't offer a special scratch-and-sniff edition of Longbourn, just to get the point across. Point being: Wow, you guys, was there a lot of manure in the bad old days.

You know what there wasn't? The kind of 21st-century thinking Baker gives her miserable underclass characters. The line about how Miss Bennet could be a little more careful of her things was perfect. But there's no way a teenaged maidservant in the eighteenth century was thinking, "Really no one should have to deal with another person's dirty linen."

Really? This little revolutionary decided all on her own not that laundry day sucks -- a sentiment that holds true to this very day -- but that all people should have the doing of their own underthings?

Similarly, Mrs. Hill the housekeeper is often burdened by Mrs. Bennet's emotional demands. Mrs. Hill has quite enough work to do to fill her day already without having to offer a shoulder to cry on just when the bread is rising. That works. I love that.

This very Mrs. Hill -- overworked, miserable, a character who seems to exist only to be taken advantage of -- is the one who decides near the end of the book that, really, there's not much difference between living as a servant and being a genteel lady. "The end was all the same."

I mentioned this is a happy book, right?

The writing is very, very good. The author has clearly done her research, and it shows without seeming show-offy.

But in the end, this book was just. A. Bummer.
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Reading Progress

October 25, 2013 – Shelved
October 25, 2013 – Shelved as: to-read
March 5, 2014 – Started Reading
March 5, 2014 –
page 18
5.11% "I guess I should always worry when I'm looking forward to a book as much as I was to this one.

I expect physical ickiness in a horror novel. Could you keep it down in a novel about Pride and freakin' Prejudice? Seriously. I'm trying to eat, here.

Also, I'm sorry but there's no *way* Mr. Bennet was letting the servants borrow his books. I'm surprised he let them in the library long enough to dust."
March 5, 2014 –
page 30
8.52% "*I* used to be a servant. Not in the Regency, but still. I don't remember it stomping all the personality out of me, the way it seems to have done to this main character.

This book is making me cranky. Probably because I have to read it quick and get it back to the library and I'd *way* rather be reading something fun. This *should* be fun. Instead, it feels like research. Dour, dry research."
March 7, 2014 –
page 124
35.23% "Okay, this book is actually pretty good. This writer really knows her Regency.

But holy CATS, is this main character depressed and depressing."
March 8, 2014 –
page 197
55.97% "Things to look up: reticule, lich-gate, people getting their teeth filed when they went to the dentist in Regency England."
March 8, 2014 –
page 218
61.93% "I call big-time BS.

I *knew* she was going to do this. Let the record state I predicted this over a hundred pages ago. And I'm still ticked in that "I can't believe she just did that!" way.

How the heck am I supposed to rate a book when it has beautiful writing and offensively bad plotting?"
March 9, 2014 –
page 294
83.52% "Home stretch (once again, GR's page count is off).

Still have no idea how to review this one. I guess I can start with how many heart attacks it's guaranteed to give P&P purists. I didn't consider myself to be one of those until I saw this author decide to...well. Hmm. I guess I'd better figure out how the "spoiler alert -- hide text" function works before writing my review."
March 9, 2014 – Shelved as: i-wanted-to-love-this
March 9, 2014 – Finished Reading
September 5, 2015 – Shelved as: regency-research

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message 1: by Jenna (new)

Jenna Mr Collins a nice guy? OH HELL NO.


Deborah Markus I know, right?


Emma Deplores Goodreads Censorship Great review! I had many of the same issues with this book. I didn't realize Mary's being into Mr. Collins was such a cliche, though.

Sarah's anachronistic attitude bothered me too, not so much because it's there I think as because the author doesn't seem to realize it's anachronistic. Like that jarring line that you point out: "Really no one should have to deal with another person's dirty linen." If it had come at the end of the book, after Sarah had come to some kind of realization about the inequality of her world, it probably would have worked fine. But when it's on Page Two and we're never given the sense that Sarah is supposed to be way ahead of her time, and for that matter we never see the train of thought that led her to this radical opinion, it winds up looking like a 21st century character got plunked into a Regency setting. I felt the same about the way the flogging was handled.


Deborah Markus Thanks, Emma!

I think Fay Weldon was the first one to imply that Mary was totally crushed-out on Mr. Collins -- she's the one who wrote the screenplay for the nineteen-eighty-something BBC production of Pride and Prejudice. Which I love. It's what made me want to read P&P in the first place. But having Mary sobbing in the corner when Charlotte's engagement to Mr. Collins is announced seems to have started this idea that that's how Austen wrote it.

I'm *so* with you on that line about the dirty linen! There's so much wrong with it!

I see what you mean about the flogging scene, too. What bothered me most about it was how ominous everything was set up to be even *before* Sarah came across it. In her head, I mean. Here she is, actually feeling happy about something for once -- a walk by herself on a nice day, the chance to snitch a little sugar, and then she gets to come home to a supper she didn't have to prepare! So, given that perspective, why is she thinking along the lines of everything around her being the color of bruises and all dark and scary and lonely? That's how she sees things when she's in a *good* mood?

Sheesh. I want to give this whole book a Prozac prescription.


message 5: by Emma Deplores Goodreads Censorship (last edited Mar 14, 2014 03:31PM) (new) - rated it 2 stars

Emma Deplores Goodreads Censorship Hah, I didn't notice that weird foreshadowing!

What bugged me about the way the whole topic of flogging was handled in this book was that all the characters' reactions to it seemed to come more from a slave novel than a society where this is considered a legitimate sentence. Okay, Sarah had to respond sympathetically to James for the love story, but more a more realistic reaction would have been horror to discover that he was a criminal combined with curiosity about what he'd done. I also had trouble with the degree of her reaction when she passed the barracks: she was living in a much harsher time than ours, with different expectations. Though I wonder how the Bennet girls would have responded to that scene; in P&P the mention of a flogging is a throwaway line, taken for granted, but then they weren't there.


Deborah Markus I was pondering the Bennet daughters' reaction, too! This is one of those moments in the book where I applauded the idea but had to boo the execution. The fact that a flogging would be something mentioned in passing as a slightly more exciting than usual piece of gossip is supposed to show us the shallowness of the people involved, as well as how safely above such basely corporeal concerns the gossiping girls are. But Sarah's response was, as you say, all wrong for the time and for her hard-knock life. She views the flogging, and the poorhouse she passed on her way to it, with 21st-century horror.

Speaking of her response to James when she realizes he's been flogged: I got *so* tired of Sarah doing that whole "I care about this person, so I have no curiosity about crucial aspects of their life." She did it when she saw James' scars, and before that when she overheard Mrs. Hill having some sort of heated conversation with Mr. Bennet. It was irritatingly obvious that her sudden lack of inquisitiveness was the author saying, "Hey, um, if I say any more about this now, it'll ruin the whole story. How about we talk later, okay?"

Good ideas. Good writing -- some of her turns of phrase are beautiful. Therefore no excuse for this book to turn out to be such a disappointment. (sigh)


Emma Deplores Goodreads Censorship I completely agree. I had high hopes for this book after seeing it praised as a great literary work, and the writing style and themes are there, though they could've been handled better. But the characterization held it back.

You make a great point about Sarah's lack of curiosity at key moments. She's meant to have a sharp and inquisitive mind, despite her lack of education. Except, when it would be uncomfortable or inconsiderate (and inconvenient for the plot), she's not sharp or inquisitive at all. And real people just don't work that way; your defining characteristics don't just disappear in situations where they're unhelpful. That's why Sarah wound up feeling like a generic protagonist to me, because Baker wasn't willing to commit to her personality enough to make her interesting or memorable.


Deborah Markus Exactly! For the first few chapters, I kept having to remind myself which one was Sarah and which was Polly. They were just two limp, unhappy servant girls.

I did like what Baker went on to do with Polly, though. That was a compelling little subplot. It was what I wished the rest of the book had been like.


message 9: by Karen (new)

Karen I couldn't even get a third of the way through and am not finishing. And I love P&P inside and out. Life is too short to waste on bad books.


Deborah Markus And there are so many good ones needing our attention!

This one was worth finishing to me as someone who's struggling to write a Regency novel herself, because I wanted to see what kind of job this author did. And I've always been fascinated by servants' lives. I can see why this did so well, since the prose was well above average; but the story was much too dark and grotesque for my taste.


Samantha Loved your review Deborah! I too am a hater but what surprised me most was that in the midst of all the great prose, there was very little story!
I was also taken aback and offended (your word, which applies to me greatly so thank you. I couldn't put my finger on the emotion) by Bakers portrayal of Austen's characters...
Such a disappointment!


Deborah Markus Thanks so much, Samantha!


Petra: hiatus, finding it hard to communicate Your review has made me want to read the book :-)


Deborah Markus Petra X wrote: "Your review has made me want to read the book :-)"

Well, the writing is beautiful. Just be careful not to fall into a terminal depression. Maybe play Pharrell Williams' "Happy" the whole time you're reading or something.


message 15: by Esther (new) - added it

Esther Great review. Right on!


Deborah Markus Esther wrote: "Great review. Right on!"

Thanks so much, Esther!


Kylie Took the words right out of my head.


Deborah Markus Kylie wrote: "Took the words right out of my head."

Thanks, Kylie! (hastily removes fingers from Kylie's brain)


message 19: by David (new)

David Meh - I love Austen for Austen, but I'm not so interested in Regency England that I want to read deconstructions of Austen.

Of course all the things we would consider horrific about living in the 18th century, Austen doesn't comment on because for her they're just the way life is.

The thing about Austen is that reading her novels, you can see, on the one hand, she was acutely aware of how much it sucked to be a woman, and on the other, how oblivious she was to the world outside her country villages.

In Mansfield Park, there is a brief mention of slavery and how the wealthy relation is rich because of the slave trade, with a hint of disapproval, but nothing like the horrified reaction portrayed in the movie.

Which Bleak House twist does this book use? (I'm not going to read it.)


Deborah Markus David wrote: "Which Bleak House twist does this book use? (I'm not going to read it.)"

(view spoiler)

Actually, I don't think Austen was oblivious to the world outside her country villages. She made deliberate choices about what she would and wouldn't include in her novels, but she definitely knew what was going on out there. For instance, a friend of hers, who later became her sister-in-law, became a widow when her aristocratic French husband was executed during the French revolution. And at least one of her brothers was in the navy, so she got plenty of news about the wider world.

But she chose not to write more than passingly about politics and larger social issues in her novels, just as she chose not to write much about food. Both topics show up a lot in her letters -- they were important to her, and food was no light subject in a world where getting food on the table was hard and often bloody work. If I were to hazard a guess, I'd say she decided to stick to her strengths when it came to sticking strictly to the plot of her novels.

I think that's why they stand up so well to the test of time. I'm reading a lot of writing from as well as about the era, and even the best of her fellow novelists tend to feel very dated and quaint. JA's prose and subject matter is surprisingly contemporary when you compare it to that of Fanny Burney or Samuel Richardson.

Now I feel like finally sitting down and reading all her letters, which I blush to admit I haven't done yet...


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I have come very late to this book. I have just finished it and I agree with this review and the subsequent comments. Where I did become interested was when the author talked about James' experience during the war. While his fortune in surviving it I found totally implausible, I felt the conditions he endured were well described.


message 22: by [deleted user] (new)

I have come very late to this book. I have just finished it and I agree with this review and the subsequent comments. Where I did become interested was when the author talked about James' experience during the war. While his fortune in surviving it I found totally implausible, I felt the conditions he endured were well described.


Deborah Markus Helen wrote: "I have come very late to this book. I have just finished it and I agree with this review and the subsequent comments. Where I did become interested was when the author talked about James' experience during the war. While his fortune in surviving it I found totally implausible, I felt the conditions he endured were well described."

You're right -- this part of the book was very well written indeed.


Linda Hamil I enjoyed the whole book. I loved the quotes from P&P that reminded me of what was happening in the original at that point and set a focus for the chapter. I liked Baker's ability to bring the lives of the servant class so vividly to life through the main characters actions, thoughts, and feelings. I liked that there were no glaring errors in the historical context (that I knew of) no ridiculous unbelievable relationships (even Mr. B. And Mrs. H. made sense) I even believe it had a NOT dreary plot line. It was darker than Pride and Prejudice, but it makes sense that the servant's lives were less exciting or happy than the master's. Everything made sense, believable characters, carefully plotted storyline, natural dialogue, no jarring or outrageous surprises - thoroughly enjoyed it.
BTW, I just finished rereading "1984," now that was depressing, then dreary, then agonizingly painful, but it needed to be, just like this book needed to be somewhat dark to complement the times and events depicted by Austen. Well some, Ms Baker.


Linda Hamil Aka Well done vs well some!


Amrita Oh man this is such an amazing review! I just finished reading the book & this says everything I want to say right out of my mind :D


Gretta This is the best review I have read of this book. Wish I had read it before starting :)


Sandra Matras Oh, this is the one where Mrs. H is married to a gay man, right? I really didn't like that bit, mostly because I'm not at all sure Jane Austen knew what homosexuality is. I don't think that would be something much talked about in Regency England - certainly not in the presence of unmarried women.


message 29: by Maddy (last edited Jan 07, 2019 09:00AM) (new) - rated it 3 stars

Maddy Someone did some research and napkins were a thing, at least as of 1876. They tied around your waist: http://susannaives.com/wordpress/2015...


message 30: by Sina (new) - rated it 2 stars

Sina Personally I thought the view from which the book was written was just not different enough from the original. If you've read PP u just pretty much know what is going to happen here. It's wasn't exiting at all. Maybe the view from one of Bingleys servants would have been more interesting? 🤔


message 31: by Jenn (new) - rated it 4 stars

Jenn Marie Women have be know to wear menstrual "pads" or "rags" since the 10th century. The pad was actually invented in the1880's just an FYI. I've seen a few comments about this from people :)


message 32: by jles (new) - rated it 2 stars

jles Totally agree, and I'm sorry to say, our protagonist is a limp rag.


Elizabeth Grant Thanks, everyone! Great review and insightful discussion! So far no one has mentioned the ending, which I found quite disturbing. Are we being to given to understand that the life Sarah has now is better than what she had when she was a domestic servant? Or is there some final twist that I missed?


message 34: by Kat (new) - rated it 3 stars

Kat I'm pretty sure that the ending was supposed to be about love being more important than economic status but I liked the other love interest so much better that I could only roll my eyes at it.


Elizabeth Grant Same here, Kat!


Deborah Markus Maddy wrote: "Someone did some research and napkins were a thing, at least as of 1876. They tied around your waist: http://susannaives.com/wordpress/2015..."

Sorry -- I really fell out of the Goodreads loop for awhile. This is a great article. Thank you for the link!


Emma Deplores Goodreads Censorship Glad to see you back, Deborah!

That is an interesting article for sure. I've never been satisfied with the "women in the past just bled through their clothes" answer because, well, some of us bleed a lot, and surely no one respectable would have walked around like that in Regency times?


Deborah Markus Emma Deplores Goodreads Censorship wrote: "Glad to see you back, Deborah!

That is an interesting article for sure. I've never been satisfied with the "women in the past just bled through their clothes" answer because, well, some of us blee..."


Thanks! And yeah, I found that idea very unlikely as well!


Mary Ann I just read Longbourn last spring and had looked forward to it because I'm a sucker for anything associated with dear Jane. Her novels live in my bedside table and on my e-reader (so I can carry her everywhere); I'm always rereading one of them. This book was so disappointing for all the reasons you cite in your review. Thank you for saving me the time of writing my own.
Curtis Sittenfeld did a much better job with Eligible: A Modern Retelling of Pride & Prejudice (2016). The other offerings in The Austen Project were just okay, but none was as dissatisfying as Longbourn.


Cynthia Grove I don't agree with everything you've said but most of it - oh yes.
Got to say that, as far as sequels go, I rather like The Other Bennet Sister by Janice Hadlow (light but fun) about Mary and love the Pemberley Chronicles by Rebecca Ann Collins (okay the first in the series is hard to follow but the other nine books are great.) The Chronicles are not novels of manners a la Jane Austen but rather social history tracing future generations through political and social changes for fifty years after Lizzy and Jane are married.















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message 41: by Christine (new)

Christine  Ashby I'd heard lots of raves about this but now I'm less keen..
I'd never the Mary-Mr Collins thing in the book (or BBC series) before- perhaps that might have been better than what happens in the novel, with her alone with just Mrs B. Definitely bit of a jump to have her longing for him from the start, though!


Birby✨ You sound like someone who distinctly didn’t want to like this book from the minute you picked it up, then proceeded to read it and give a bad review. Brilliant. Good work.


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