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It’s time to spill our GUTS. Nora and Nathan talk about the sophomore album from Olivia Rodrigo, the immense pressure she was under after the success of SOUR (1:00), how Dan Nigro and other influences helped her develop the sound on this album (24:44), and debate whether or not songs like “the grudge” and “lacy” are about Taylor Swift (41:31).
Hosts: Nora Princiotti and Nathan Hubbard
Producer: Kaya McMullen
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